*Tested* Is the New 2024 Toyota Tacoma Manual Transmission BETTER than the New 8-Speed Automatic?

Tested Is the New 2024 Toyota Tacoma Manual Transmission BETTER than the New 8-Speed Automatic?

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#toyota #tacoma #savethemanuals #trdsport
I finally test the new 6 Speed Manual transmission in the all-new #toyotatacoma with the #turbo engine. Is it a better setup than the old v6? What about the new 8 speed automatic?
• Standard i-FORCE 2.4LTurbo Engine with up to 278 Horsepower and 317 lb.-ft. of Torque
• Unique Suspension Tuning for Each Grade with Available Coil Spring Rear Suspension
• Available 14-inch Touchscreen Display with Latest Toyota Audio Multimedia System
• Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Pricing Starting at $31,500*
• Arrival Expected in Toyota Dealerships in December 2023
00:00 - Intro / Exterior
02:34 - backseat
03:30 - Powertrain
04:07 - Front seat
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@dannyphamous 8 ай бұрын

Amazing coverage and honest thoughts. I'm happy they kept the manual. Will definitely test drive first. It keeps family/friends from constantly asking to borrow your truck every weekend as well.

@jacobshaw808 8 ай бұрын

It's a load of BS is what it is... it totally ruins the driving experience. Basically, the EPA and manufactures aren't SOLELY worried about fuel efficiency, they worry about emissions as well. When you quickly snap off the throttle, as you normally would during a shift, the air supply to the engine is cut off and the fuel entering the cylinders cant burn. This is bad, because unburnt fuel passes through the exhaust system. This is bad for the catallactic converter and its bad for the environment. To combat this, the computer is programmed to hold the throttle open partially until all the fuel in the cylinders is burnt up. This causes the RPMs to hang.

@maikeru1990 4 ай бұрын

@@jacobshaw808Interesting take, but then why do not all other modern manuals (such as those found in modern sports cars) have such an annoying feature?

@Early_2K 3 ай бұрын

@maikeru1990 yea my 21 mustang gt doesnt Rev hang at all, I guess ford doesn't GAF lol

@4af 7 ай бұрын

Love how objective your reviews are - you tell us what's good as well as what's not so good.

@IamGroot786 8 ай бұрын

Kudos to Toyota for keeping the manual transmission alive. It's a skill not many folks have nowadays. I have an old Ranger with a manual and I've been teaching my kids how to drive a stick shift. The rev hang is because of emissions? I don't get it. If anything, it should be the opposite. What am I getting wrong here?

@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX 8 ай бұрын

Good review ty especially explaining the manual shift on this truck

@aale7777 8 ай бұрын

I would definitely want to try the manual.

@garyclark6747 8 ай бұрын

Good insight and great review. 13:30

@bobcostin6840 8 ай бұрын

Kirk, lots of complaints about rev hang, but did you try turning the iMT off to see if it was any different?

@MyLIFEISLEGENDARY836 8 ай бұрын

New tacoma is a home run and class leader with no problem .great job by toyota .👑👑👑

@guentherwilke2055 8 ай бұрын

About that SR... So the SR has been announced to have leaf springs on the Double cab. Somewhere along the way, it was also mentioned that it has a smaller rear axle, but I guarantee you that the MT SR (with the same power spec as TRD MT trucks) gets the same bigger axle. That would make that one configuration (which will be comparatively rare compared to cheap fleet trucks) get a unique axle. There's also no cost savings in the SR MT. I'm itching to see the spec sheet at this point, because all this tells me that the SR MT could still get coil springs instead of leaves. Edit- the split between the smaller (likely same as current 8.something) and the bigger 9.5" axle happens further up- all hybrid models and MT TRD OR get the bigger axle, everything else gets the smaller axle.

@is6566 8 ай бұрын

@guenther… if it has same power rating than the higher trims but in the SR then the axle should be the same as well. And if that’s true then if down the road an aftermarket company develops a rear locker for the non-off-road type trims then it will fit the SR manuals while it will not the SR autos. Also most likely you can just swap the internal components of the rear diff of the SR manual with the OEM rear locker of an Off-road trim. You will not be able to do any of that if you get an SR with an auto. Same thing happened on the non-Rubicon Sport Jeep Wrangler JL. Autos come with weaker rear axle. Manual Sport comes with a Dana 44 axle same as on the Rubicon (much higher offroad oriented trim level).

@joejoethetee 8 ай бұрын

If they did the sr Mt with the bigger axle and kept the towing rating the same as the higher trim models, I would 100% go with the base truck to save the 4k$

@samleary2733 8 ай бұрын

Is the rev hang a byproduct of the iMT system or is it that bad with that system disengaged?

@brycenelson8787 8 ай бұрын

im sure the aftermarket can fix that rev hang.

@jmyers6175 7 ай бұрын

6 speed Manual toyota tacoma 4wd ❤❤

@dangutt694 8 ай бұрын

Kirk, did you drive it with iMT turned off?

@tinhinnh 8 ай бұрын

is the 14” screen too big in the taco? i think its perfect in the tundra but looks huge in this truck, maybe a 12” would be better

@avdp9095 8 ай бұрын

Looks great! Very nice car! Hope fit and finish will be better than the Tundra....

@CowsAreVeryCool 8 ай бұрын

Is the manual available on any 4x2 rwd models?

@eltee9799 8 ай бұрын

Does the SR include the rear seat delete like in previous SR models?

@chrisjmiller6 8 ай бұрын

I believe so, at least that's the way it looked in other reviews that showed the SR

@jeffsmith-lyon7711 8 ай бұрын

Was the fuel economy different with the automatic? 18/23 isn't too bad, just curious if it is any better with the auto.

@losangelesbfs 7 ай бұрын

i own a trd pro in manual, the fuel economy is better in the auto trans 👍🏼

@JesusIsLord7773 8 ай бұрын

Only thing i dont like is the overlapping infotainment screen. They shoulda made it same as the tundra.

@user-cq1rd3kz7e Ай бұрын

I got the manual a month ago specifically for off-road and I am very happy with it.

@callofdutyguy9 8 ай бұрын

You have to wait 1-2 seconds after letting off the throttle before you clutch in to get the RPMs to drop faster.

@amode8761 8 ай бұрын

I noticed a lot of these new body on frame Toyotas haven’t improved in interior dimensions, staying similar if not the same as the previous version. Only exception is the LC250 with the longer wheelbase. I feel like it’s a missed opportunity that they didn’t add say 2 inches to the wheelbase and add it all to the rear legroom.

@Level-zb4jg 7 ай бұрын

How are you getting manual tarns trucks??? Our home town dealerships are saying good luck getting Tacomas with maunal trans.

@callofdutyguy9 4 ай бұрын

Toyota dealerships don’t really order a custom truck for you. You can go in and ask them to find you one which is either at some other nearby dealer in which case they can try to a dealership swap or they will look at whatever Toyota has scheduled to be built in your area and they can try to reserve that truck for you. A lot of dealerships are ******* though and tell you they don’t want your business because they want to sell you whatever is already on their lot or can have an easier time selling.

@Queso305 8 ай бұрын

Maybe there's a hack to reflash the computer that controls the revhang

@KirkKreifels 8 ай бұрын

Someone will figure it out

@callofdutyguy9 8 ай бұрын

That is Kanan Dume Rd between Agoura Hills and Malibu

@jesusgalindo5186 8 ай бұрын

Its a 2wd?

@SuperSaqer 8 ай бұрын

New Hilux preview?

@faheemabbas3965 8 ай бұрын

Maybe. The Tacoma is the Hilux’s obese American cousin in a way…

@SuperSaqer 8 ай бұрын

@@faheemabbas3965 pretty much. I’m excited for the GR Hilux which the Tacoma X-Runner concept is based on.

@deresolute1061 8 ай бұрын

That rev hang Oh My Lordy. Surely that can be better engineered?

@callofdutyguy9 4 ай бұрын

It’s for emission and also helps protect from oil consumption. It’s annoying but you can get either get used to it which is not hard IMO. Or you can wait for custom tunes to become available and go that route. This reviewer is exaggerating imo. He is saying the 3rd gen shifts better even though that truck also has rev hang.

@matthewjames4268 8 ай бұрын

Id love to go back to a manual taco

@trey7575 8 ай бұрын

I agree, wish it had a manual parking brake

@philenchymsejour8018 8 ай бұрын

It maybe different for trucks and I doubt Toyota would say this, but I feel like an aftermarket tune could remove the rev hang. Probably voids the warranty and all that nonsense, but just a thought

@nissanzenkiboy 8 ай бұрын

Hmmm I actually like it ! That rev hang it’s a dealbreaker for me tho I can’t stand that especially in highways

@chrisx5127 8 ай бұрын

What exactly is rev hang?

@nissanzenkiboy 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisx5127 when you let off the Gas pedal and the Revs stay high for a few seconds.

@chrisx5127 8 ай бұрын

@@nissanzenkiboy What does it do exactly though? The last manual I had was a 02 CRV with poor shifter and clutch, so I have no idea about rev hang is. Wasn't this supposed to be a *feature of the new 6MT?

@elfishcoder7287 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisx5127 It has something to do with emissions.

@FrankOsman 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisx5127it's especially noticeable when quickly switching to another gear. The engine does not have enough time to drop revs before the clutch is released in the next gear, and so the transmission forces the engine revs down when the clutch is released, rather than the engine revs being able to naturally fall to the proper point right as the clutch is released for the next gear.

@kevinpereira7864 8 ай бұрын

Drove a lexus NX with the same 2.4l turbo, and wow the rev hang is unbearable.

@LeoTheShortGuy 8 ай бұрын

Cool

@tylersrubar6451 8 ай бұрын

That 14in screen seems massive in there. Just fits the bigger Tundra better imo. Could’ve made at a least a couple inches smaller…whatevs

@bizzfo 2 ай бұрын

It’s happened. Manual option is more than the Automatic now. Knew I’d see it someday but it’s finally happened.

@mark_barrentine 5 ай бұрын

Well, looks like I'll be keeping my '09 Taco Access Cab Prerunner 2.7L 5-speed manual a little longer.

@rodgood 8 ай бұрын

A real manual guy would also want a manual transfercase lever .

@KirkKreifels 8 ай бұрын

And hand brake

@doityourself7711 8 ай бұрын

The big screen is not free, there is an extra premium for that

@cadafi025 8 ай бұрын

Is better that the new Nissan frontier?

@MyLIFEISLEGENDARY836 8 ай бұрын

Yes miles better

@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX 8 ай бұрын

@MyLIFEISLEGENDARY836 how so? I'm considering buying the pro4x?

@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX 8 ай бұрын

I'm considering a 24 pro4x

@cadafi025 8 ай бұрын

@@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX I have a 2022 Pro X and I love it. Nice engine and smooth transmission. V6 no turbo.

@KirkKreifels 8 ай бұрын

It depends what you're looking for. If you want v6 and better steering feel, get Frontier. Frontier will also be cheaper as initial Taco prices will be absurd.

@libertywolf76 8 ай бұрын

Wait did you say a long bed manual is a option now ?

@is6566 8 ай бұрын

No sadly it’s not. Manuals are 5-footers in the new Tacoma too.

@illuminaughty2929 8 ай бұрын

Rev Hang is unnatural and unfortunately common in modern direct injection engines. Hopefully, Toyota will figure a way to tune it out.

@KirkKreifels 8 ай бұрын

You'd have to tune it aftermarket :(

@kangill2411 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like the MT is a fail, which is a shame since I had this on my shortlist. If rev hang is a function of emissions regulation then there is nothing Toyota can do about it.

@callofdutyguy9 4 ай бұрын

Don’t listen to this guy. Go test drive a truck or even a 3rd gen manual. He is saying the 3rd gen manual which also has rev hang was better than the auto but somehow it’s a problem for the new truck. He is fanboying over the 8 speed.

@Holden-McGroin 7 ай бұрын

That’s really disappointing to hear. Thanks for the info.

@AutoEnthusiastJC 8 ай бұрын

Prices are higher than expected. I’m going to buy a Ram 1500 on discount for $32,000 now.

@georgerafa5041 8 ай бұрын

You're buying a POS

@anyway_anyway 8 ай бұрын

Rev hang sux...that mean throttle response sux then...imo

@shalvami 8 ай бұрын

Tesla released Cybertruck, meanwhile Toyota released the truck with manual transmission

@Level-zb4jg 7 ай бұрын

Leave it to engineers to over complicate a manual transmission.

@edwarddejong8025 8 ай бұрын

A manual transmission will outlast an automatic by hundreds of thousands of miles. You might have to put in a new clutch, but unlike an auto it won't die after some number of miles.

@skytechenterprise9906 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, no I'll keep my 22' 3rd gen V6 naturally aspirated... Some of the improvements are nice but not happy about a turbo 4 banger in a truck... Reliability has decreased...

@fortheloveofnoise 8 ай бұрын

Wish we got that new 13k Toyota truck they are selling in markets like Thailand.

@liveoak7838 8 ай бұрын

pull off the air dam and it gets the same gas mileage as some full size trucks with real back seats

@nordlandak6853 8 ай бұрын

You need to mention that removing the air dam causes a lost of 4 mpg! That makes it worse than the previous Tacoma!

@MrBigBoy4Life 8 ай бұрын

Back in the day, there were two basic reasons I’d get a manual transmission vehicle. They were always cheaper than automatics and got considerably better gas mileage. These days, neither is true anymore. Other than nostalgia, there’s no reason for manuals.

@fortheloveofnoise 8 ай бұрын

more fun to drive, be in the gear you want at any time, better off road and can get you out of some situations an automatic cant

@es-qf2gw 8 ай бұрын

@MrBigBoy4Life There are plenty of maintenance service reasons to opt for the manual transmission. They are easier to fix!! Aka Maintenance friendly!!! They don't required expensive tooling!! You don't need an specialized overhaul shop to rebuild them. manuals transmission s have less part and they are cheaper when they do break. Normal service drain intervals are alot longer!

@is6566 8 ай бұрын

Manual is cheaper on the new Tacoma. $1,100 less on any trim with manual. Watch Truck King explaining.

@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIX 8 ай бұрын

The manual shift not appealing

@EdvinGusinac 8 ай бұрын

You know my vehicle is flopping when the biggest talking point is that it has a manual transmission. I’m really disappointed in Toyota.

@georgerafa5041 8 ай бұрын

It may or may not flop but manual vids get tons of views (mostly from automatic drivers just daydreaming) and he's reviewed multiple trims of the new Taco so no shit he'd focus on the unique transmission in this vid.