Adrian- Brilliant answer Brilliant idea.. Ought to patten that phrase.. Terric..

Thieves For London

That`s spot on.👍@@philipbunker146

Absolutely. Tell is a backward organisation!!!

Scumbags, just like their weasely boss, Sad Dick Knut

Getting from A to B of course.

Apparently, you need a visa to exit the train station.

We white English people will be at the back of every que now, nevermind we built our country with our bare hands. It USED to be OUR country but now THEY are taking it, by force when necessary and our own "establishment" are bending over and helping them. "We're Doomed"🤬🤬🤬

Absolutely spot on!

Just like the Police who will pick on easy targets too.

I was strip-searched once, just outside a convenience store. Was a young lad at the time, about 20 years or so. They found nothing, I warned them I would make a harassments case out of it. Have not been stopped the last 14 years.

@mattlars89 no one has power to strip search except police, Border Force etc and then not anywhere public. Turning out pockets or being patted down is not counted as stripsearch.

They may be targetting white people.

Cant imagine. I am glad i live in a country that isnt even close to being enriched like great britainstan.

What’s a ticket office?

I saw that myself decades ago.

yes most of time i witnessed same sort of thing especially if driver is of same ethnic background.

Not just just our imported brethren, aĺl youths seem to do it. Some of them are so blatant that even when police are there the stop people doing it, I once saw at Harrow on the hill station a youth barge through the barrier and shouted and raged when they stopped him. Bring back the birch, they would not reoffend again!

It's super nerve-racking though. Be aware that the thinking of those up high is that the negative consequences of false convictions are less than the upsides.

Would not be my advice. If you do not stay, tfl staff can request police assistance. Get too argumentative, you can be removed from station and banned even if had the right fare paid. It's not worth the aggravation.

It's difficult if they stand in front of you and talk nonsense.

@@MaidinBritain That attitude is exactly what is bringing this country to it's knees. People need to assert their rights or lose them. Not saying anything takes the wind out of their sails and if the police arrive... great. They can continue making a spectacle of themselves while you show the police your paid for ticked and reassert your right to travel without being accosted.

@zibbezabba2491 you talk of asserting rights. The tfl are asserting theirs. That's the point. They've the law behind them regardless of whether we like it or not. Forcing them to get police involved will end up with same conclusion ie you're stopped, forced to give name and address and proof of fare, so why argue with the staff in first place? I don't like their authority or how they abuse it with selecting easy targets but it won't change. Choosing my battles.

Same plan all over the world, haven't you noticed ?

@@pooooornopigeon Yes, all the western world.

How do people of your adopted country react to foreign folk making their country "another country"?

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James - the burden of proof falls upon the accuser not the accused. This is a maxim in law and how English Law differs from European law. A small claim for £2,000 would take sting out of the incident a little bit. Or claim whatever you think is reasonable for being accused of theft, fraud or telling lies. How much is your reputation worth, only you can decide that. Another useful maxim in law is "He that is claiming is winning" So the law recognises your claim and the respondents counterclaim. And if they don't have one well that's just too bad boo hoo. Quids in 🤑💲💸 serves em right

@@joedee1863 yes granted but I thought at the time that in fact I did assault the guard and decided that I'd better not push my luck🤣

@@jamesbinderman5626 - I comprehend, the threat of retaliation is always a mode of control. But in future you may best in mind that 1. accidents can happen. Anyone can trip and unintentionally knock someone else over and compensation for such would depend on the other party's injuries. 2. If 3 warnings were given for the other party to desist from detaining you OR ELSE reasonable force would be used to secure yourself and yours. Proof of these warnings could come in the form of affidavits (notary public) or sworn statements(commissioner of oaths). Or videos , etc. Just a few of the tools to bear in mind for anyone who uses public transport and is accosted by an agent of a company who claims to have a 'duty of care' to the public. These days body cams are so cheap and affordable and I never venture out of doors without one. "It's a jungle out there" 😉 "Be cautious as serpents and harmless as doves" J.C. the Nazarene.

If the guard is wrong or doesn't have the proof then him holding you there becomes false imprisonment! You can use force to escape false imprisonment same as self defence. Technically you could perform a citizens arrest and call the police. All legal.

easter said than done? they act like legalised thugs you no the one bailiffs and the like even the court ones, they stamp around giving you there full presence

Easy £6000 up for grabs sounds like it's in her interest to me

@@icouldbewrongicouldberight Hah. Let's see if that works out. If it does, I'll be more inclined to be "inconvenienced" illegally in future.

These sort of incidents are enough to cause aversion, far costlier than even a day's pay. Hth

Rivers of blood speech

And how would that change what happened to her?

@@whitehart11 The correct title is "like the Roman".

Wouldn't help. This plan is agenda 21. Agenda for sustainable development goals and objectives from the EU/UN.....A new world order...It is across the western world. All NATO countries. USA. Canada. Germany. France. Australia. Etc. Same stories in all these nations. Lockstep when it came to the planademic. Net zero. Man made climate change. Etc. As a UK citizen I was never asked. It has all been done without our consent. There was no vote. I term it a hostile corporate takeover. They just forgot to tell the people. We need to become incorporated citizens.

Well!! Their recruitment policy is hiring of people of low intellect, that fill the criteria of " diversity" who tend to believe their uniform gives them legal authority!? What people need to do is ask their name,job title, then due TFL for wrongful detainment !!

It's ironic isn't it. Or more accurately,moronic. Can only be by design. Or lack of care. 😮

Or non-female. They pick on the people they think will be most compliant.

@steadynumber1, hello so does cash a wage packet pen and paper.oh and fish and chips wrapped in newspaper.

Long gone!

@@davidsimms6609 I've always managed to get paper tickets. Smart Phones are a trap, one which I cannot afford.

Paper tickets rule - recently I had trouble travelling by Flixbus they refused to let me on the bus and wouldn't give me time to access my device to show my electronic ticket. I still plan to sue them but in future I will print out my ticket and have a copy with me in case anyone tries to tamper with evidence and always wear a body cam to record all interactions with ticket collectors etc. It's a jungle out there take care 👍

China have been pushing to take the video down. It will soon be gone

Yes ....😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sadiq Khan's goon squad again! 😡 this man ( can't really call him a man) ignites my fury like no other. It deserves to be removed from power by fair means or foul! 😡

@@maverickhistorian6488That’s why you must vote for Rishi Sunak. Rishi will win in a landslide. He will be the saviour for England.

Sunak is WEF puppet he can be [redacted] with the rest of them. ​@@johnmartin7158

citizens arrest doesn't exist anymore

"These jobs worths (sic) are not the Police nor have any powers to restrain anyone. That's exclusive to the Police." Erm WRONG. "4A Arrest without warrant: other persons "(1) A person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant- "(a) anyone who is in the act of committing an indictable offence; "(b )anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence. "(2) Where an indictable offence has been committed, a person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant- "(a) anyone who is guilty of the offence; "(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it. "(3) But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1) or (2) is exercisable only if- "(a) the person making the arrest has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (4) it is necessary to arrest the person in question; and "(b) it appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make it instead. "(4) The reasons are to prevent the person in question- "(a) causing physical injury to himself or any other person; "(b) suffering physical injury; "(c) causing loss of or damage to property; or "(d) making off before a constable can assume responsibility for him." That is section 24A of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. Anyone can arrest a person in the circumstances laid out in that section. Do try and check what the law actually says before making lofty pronouncements. As for railway staff and fares: "5 Penalty for avoiding payment of fare. "(1) Every passenger by a railway shall, on request by an officer or servant of a railway company, either produce, and if so requested deliver up, a ticket showing that his fare is paid, or pay his fare from the place whence he started, or give the officer or servant his name and address; and in case of default shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale. "(2) If a passenger having failed either to produce, or if requested to deliver up, a ticket showing that his fare is paid, or to pay his fare, refuses or fails on request by an officer or servant of a railway company, to give his name and address, any officer of the company may detain him until he can be conveniently brought before some justice or otherwise discharged by due course of law. "(3) If any person- "(a) Travels or attempts to travel on a railway without having previously paid his fare, and with intent to avoid payment thereof; or "(b) Having paid his fare for a certain distance, knowingly and wilfully proceeds by train beyond that distance without previously paying the additional fare for the additional distance, and with intent to avoid payment thereof; or "(c) Having failed to pay his fare, gives in reply to a request by an officer of a railway company a false name or address,he shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale, or, in the case of a second or subsequent offence, either to a fine not exceeding [F7level 3 on the standard scale], or in the discretion of the court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months. "(4)The liability of an offender to punishment under this section shall not prejudice the recovery of any fare payable by him. "(5)In this section- "(a)“railway company” includes an operator of a train, and "(b)“operator”, in relation to a train, means the person having the management of that train for the time being." Now in the circumstances described the TfL agents were definitely exceeding their powers. The fare evasion offences are summary only offences. That means section 24A of PACE does NOT apply to them. Beyond that it was clear that the fare had been paid for the journey taken as the ticket was produced. So the powers in section 5 of the Regulation of Railways Act 1889 also do not apply. Again do try and check what the law actually says before making lofty pronouncements.

I wouldn't let it go. I'd sue for wrongful arrest and harassment.

If they had brains, they would be dangerous

You said it. 🎯🎯🎯

Vote for Tory, who put a foreigner in charge, non elected, who allows thousand of further foreigners in and houses them in luxury. Oh yes, vote Tory.