Only One Rules: Ford F-250 Tremor vs RAM Power Wagon vs GMC Sierra HD AT4 Ultimate Off-Road Test!

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TFLoffroad

4 жыл бұрын

(www.TFLoffroad.com) Can the GMC Sierra Sierra HD and Ram Power Wagon best the Ford F-250 Tremor Off-Road? We compare the three trucks in the snow, mud and rocks to see which is best. 2 of these trucks have new Diesel engines, the Power Wagon has an old school V8 gas engine. But can electronics and limited slips compete with the RAM Power Wagon locking differentials?
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@atechguy923
@atechguy923 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video guys, just great! Keep doing that great work!
@daveyaremko1342
@daveyaremko1342 4 жыл бұрын
Really??
@myrongrant3938
@myrongrant3938 4 жыл бұрын
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@tiff3253
@tiff3253 3 жыл бұрын
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@aidenarkham
@aidenarkham 3 жыл бұрын
Dodge sucks lol
@jesusloza8260
@jesusloza8260 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidenarkham Sways the chevy owner 😂😂😂
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with all three trucks is they're way too expensive! Crazy!
@sothickitssickk
@sothickitssickk 4 жыл бұрын
U broke
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын
@@sothickitssickk yes! Wanna lend me 80 thousand? I want the tremor
@austinlheureux4349
@austinlheureux4349 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Condie the power wagon is 64k that’s not a lot for the package
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын
@@austinlheureux4349 prefer the tremor. 64 thousand is more than i paid for my first home! Lol
@rogerj412
@rogerj412 4 жыл бұрын
Those are just the as tested prices. You can get a RAM 2500 Tradesman with the Power Wagon package for closer to $50k if you're willing to do without some interior amenities. Since you want a Tremor though I suggest you take out a second or third mortgage on your house.
@austinkeyser3592
@austinkeyser3592 4 жыл бұрын
Never been a ford guy and I own a ram but that tremor package is pretty dang sweet...
@lolz616
@lolz616 4 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of big torque down low? Just guna stick to the gaz guzzling v8 rams that have to wind up to 4600 RPM to feel any power/torque :D jajajaj u missing out these new ecoboost are fun as hell making make power down low rpm means everyday driving u feel the ford powaaa with the ram u would have to blow a head gasket flooring it all the time to have fun with it
@kylelehde4519
@kylelehde4519 4 жыл бұрын
Ya maybe sweet but take the powerjoke out and put in a cummins
@Boblovesminecraft02
@Boblovesminecraft02 4 жыл бұрын
The first man to comment is really using ford diesels compared to a hemi, put the Cummins vs the power stroke, Cummins will win any day.
@OhPhuckYou
@OhPhuckYou 4 жыл бұрын
@@Boblovesminecraft02 First guy was talking about the 3.5 Ecoboost that goes toe to toe with the 5.7 Dodge.
@cliffcampbell8827
@cliffcampbell8827 4 жыл бұрын
@@lolz616 You're comparing a gasoline engine to a diesel engine. Sure they're both 4 strokes but that's like comparing Joe Montana (super human quarterback extrordinare) to Muhammad Ali (quite possibly the best boxer to ever live). Sure, both of them are humans, both excellent athletes but excellent in totally different sports.
@danield5760
@danield5760 4 жыл бұрын
That off roading yall did was like my kids playing in a mud puddle
@brennanl4991
@brennanl4991 3 жыл бұрын
They took it easy because they are all new trucks that are very expensive
@lionpoop9246
@lionpoop9246 3 жыл бұрын
Brennan L no the Ford and GMC are over priced and the ram was going tô win but did not whant tô make it unfare
@anthonylugo5244
@anthonylugo5244 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you literally rip around on a banshee
@danield5760
@danield5760 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonylugo5244 who
@fluchtigziege3202
@fluchtigziege3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@brennanl4991 why bother then
@flo__60
@flo__60 4 жыл бұрын
rest of the world: when does the off-road start?
@fluchtigziege3202
@fluchtigziege3202 3 жыл бұрын
no shit this is weaker than taking the kids to school here in AUS
@The219Beast
@The219Beast 4 жыл бұрын
I like how they call the first test off-roading. That’s just a normal parking lot in Wisconsin. 😂
@fluchtigziege3202
@fluchtigziege3202 3 жыл бұрын
IKR weak as piss
@maxboya
@maxboya 3 жыл бұрын
They are all idiots. TFL needs to update their casting crew
@fluchtigziege3202
@fluchtigziege3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxboya yeah was shithouse, sure don't trash them but seriously they didn't even try it was the lamest thing I have ever seen
@jaygustin6446
@jaygustin6446 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxboya jjj ju u
@robstamper332
@robstamper332 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking.....that's my daily drive to work... In a 2012 E250 cargo van.. no 4x4...
@1manarmyguzman629
@1manarmyguzman629 4 жыл бұрын
Ford Tremor has 35 inch tires and the most power out of all 3 and still got 19.2 mpg! #1
@Tanner731
@Tanner731 4 жыл бұрын
only one that got good mpg with solid axles lol not much point comparing them when its the clear winner
@1manarmyguzman629
@1manarmyguzman629 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tanner731 Definetly
@WilliamStewart1
@WilliamStewart1 4 жыл бұрын
One is an offroad legend with proper running gear, the other two are regular trucks with bigger tires, rear lockers, and fancy looks. I'm sure the other two are nice trucks and all, BUT THE POWERWAGON DON'T CARE!.
@Tanner731
@Tanner731 4 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamStewart1 my gas tank cares tho
@jimmyj2883
@jimmyj2883 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tanner731 bro powerwagon has solid axles too lmao
@marksolomon9102
@marksolomon9102 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my 2022 F250 Tremor diesel in August. Bad Ass. It’s been off-roading, towing, in the snow, in the mud, performing flawlessly. Never been so happy with a truck.
@oscarlaz
@oscarlaz Ай бұрын
I just git exactly the same truck.❤ Hope to get it muddy soon😂
@jeffersonfjeld
@jeffersonfjeld 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Andre uses a speed square so as to not appear to be eyeballing it lol
@chrishuber4853
@chrishuber4853 2 жыл бұрын
Just made a comment about that. Very easy to be an inch or 2 off and multiplying by 1000,that's a lot. Framers square....🤦‍♂️
@mrc975
@mrc975 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t a test. Come on boys 4wheel those bad boys
@Rusty.1776
@Rusty.1776 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY...
@caliboyrob
@caliboyrob 4 жыл бұрын
they can only do some much when they are rentals
@quaranjones2359
@quaranjones2359 4 жыл бұрын
They aren’t rock crawlers
@jong.5619
@jong.5619 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. The dirt road to my house is more extreme than any of this.
@rxonmymind8362
@rxonmymind8362 3 жыл бұрын
$75+k trucks? Nope.
@Frindleeguy
@Frindleeguy 4 жыл бұрын
You should do this test in a fwd mini van. Cause that's how serious those "obstacles" were...
@newman8r45
@newman8r45 4 жыл бұрын
well thats probably because none of these trucks are intended to be proper off roaders. The ford especially since the tremor pack is a road pack.
@Frindleeguy
@Frindleeguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@newman8r45 So, in your opinion, this video pushed these trucks to their limits? The intent behind my post was simply to state the obstacles here aren't tough for a Kia Spectra, let alone a $60k+ truck marketed as off road capable.
@newman8r45
@newman8r45 4 жыл бұрын
@@Frindleeguy obviously not, but to be fair the majority of the market these trucks fit arent people looking for a qualified off roader. Im confident the reason why they didnt push the trucks however is because they dont own them, and a heavy truck like these are likely to break from doing any real off-road test.
@Frindleeguy
@Frindleeguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@newman8r45 My diesel dually hits trails harder than this weekly. Most everyone with a toy hauler has towed 15-20k+ lbs on trails much rougher than this. What are you even talking about?
@newman8r45
@newman8r45 4 жыл бұрын
@@Frindleeguy "im a smoker whos 90 years old so obviously smoking isnt bad for your health" Your anecdotal situation doesnt disprove how 3/4 or 1 ton vehicles with the express design of towing domestic loads are not intended for off road abuse.
@rtomimbang
@rtomimbang 3 жыл бұрын
The most comprehensive truck review i have seen. Excellent review. Great work! Cheers!
@jasonhass9845
@jasonhass9845 4 жыл бұрын
"I set it at 2 miles per hour...so everyone can see me" I see you Andre lol nice reference!
@nathankestin1922
@nathankestin1922 4 жыл бұрын
A comparison of the 3 most badass off road trucks in the land, no reason why this video shouldn't get a million views! Great work TFL!
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
Most badass HD trucks in the land you mean.
@MrSupersaiyangoku
@MrSupersaiyangoku 4 жыл бұрын
I concur with this sentiment. Get this man a cookie !!!!
@God-yi9bd
@God-yi9bd 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSupersaiyangoku 3 cookies lol
@JS-um4vr
@JS-um4vr 4 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Except there is nothing HD about the Ram specs. Great at offroading - but frankly doesn't match up towing-wise to most 1/2 tons on the market. IMO, that's what makes and HD an HD - and it just doesn't have the goods!
@Tboninator
@Tboninator 4 жыл бұрын
@@JS-um4vr The only reason for that is the suspension. Airlifter bags and Daystar cradles resolve that. The Power Wagon is the most offroad capable, and about 600 bucks in aftermarket parts brings up its only ailment.
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын
Tire plug kit! Easiest fix ever! I just taught my daughter just the other day how to plug a tire
@gregalbares8499
@gregalbares8499 4 жыл бұрын
When I married my Wife she didn't know how to check the oil or read how much gas in the SUV. LOL!!
@rebelcowboy5.7l98
@rebelcowboy5.7l98 4 жыл бұрын
Yep and virtually free to fix. The tire shops try to say u have to patch it but ive plugged 50 + tires without a single problem for 100s of 1000 miles
@miflicks6953
@miflicks6953 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are great, thanks for this video! I currently drive an old 2003 F250 V - 10. That tremor is looking pretty sweet...but 78k 😱
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
You'd love the advancements in features/tech + better MPGs in new F150. Trust me on that. All i buy is F150s. Owned last 3 Gens. Phenomenal trucks that are still benchmark of the class. Ordered a '23 F150 XLT Tremor cream cab w/5.0L Coyote V8. Will drive it 10-12yrs or more.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
Order to spec mine was $57k before any rebates!
@ben2687
@ben2687 9 ай бұрын
Stick with the old 250.👍
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 жыл бұрын
You can't can't get any better than this comparison. Very nice.
@mar7739
@mar7739 4 жыл бұрын
Legend says, that sway bar still tries to disconnect....
@ottallman
@ottallman 4 жыл бұрын
mar7739 legend says, still waiting on that G80
@twadney
@twadney 4 жыл бұрын
I believe you are supposed to be stationary when disconnecting the sway bar and he clearly was moving when trying to disconnect it. He was stationary on the first test and had no problems.
@mar7739
@mar7739 4 жыл бұрын
@@twadney I don't know, maybe, my post was humorous. However previous Wranglers (JK Rubicons) had big problems with that sway bars.
@jwolveee
@jwolveee 4 жыл бұрын
And on very still nights in Snowab, if you listen carefully as the cold wind blows, you can still hear that very same sway bar - still trying to disconnect! I want my articulation...
@WilliamStewart1
@WilliamStewart1 4 жыл бұрын
@@mar7739 I have a 19 Power Wagon, you can't be moving when you want to disengage it.
@rickysafer2895
@rickysafer2895 4 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you guys doing this in the snow, makes it more challenging . ( Good Video)
@miguelalfoya2031
@miguelalfoya2031 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, they are helping me pass this quarantine 😉
@Davido50
@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын
Always been a Ford guy for obvious reasons..they are usually the best overall trucks & most dependable. We will stick w/our F150 Tremor & new Ranger FX4. No reason to change! Maybe an F250 in future. Keep it "All American" trucks!
@Juandsanchez
@Juandsanchez 4 жыл бұрын
That intro was awesome! You guys aren’t messing around! The best quality cinematography and content!
@thenorthshore6472
@thenorthshore6472 4 жыл бұрын
I put my truck through tougher situations than that, just going to work each morning! Lol
@Justadude1904
@Justadude1904 3 жыл бұрын
Watch out for that craaaazy 4” step guys!!! Wheeew luckily that beefed up off road suspension handled it like a pro. 👌🏻
@7riverseast217
@7riverseast217 Жыл бұрын
At this point , its all personal preference. All 3 will do the same thing and more than the normal driver will ever buy it for. Great video..
@froglaps40
@froglaps40 4 жыл бұрын
The nail appears to have a philips screw head pattern....
@jacobg5122
@jacobg5122 4 жыл бұрын
One of them phillips head nails. You have to drive them in with a phillips head hammer.
@God-yi9bd
@God-yi9bd 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@tallll70
@tallll70 4 жыл бұрын
means you have to use philips nail puller
@gen-x-zeke8446
@gen-x-zeke8446 4 жыл бұрын
It's the new Phillip's Tire Nail. You can get them in Colorado, especially made for Andre Popov.
@jacobg5122
@jacobg5122 4 жыл бұрын
@@gen-x-zeke8446 Correct, I live in Colorado and all of our houses are made with phillips head nails. That way the hooligans can't steal our doors and sell them for weed money.
@briangarner
@briangarner 4 жыл бұрын
In other words, we want to keep getting trucks from these three manufacturers, so they all win!!!!!!!!
@Thamac15
@Thamac15 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Ford guy through and through. My 17 F250 is an amazing truck. I love the new gmc at4 exterior, slap the Ram interior with the at4 exterior and the Ford powertrain and that’s my perfect build.
@yakattack_fishing8542
@yakattack_fishing8542 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree mkre
@Reynopatrick
@Reynopatrick 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. Awesome quality video and content. Keep me coming !
@jonathanchan2536
@jonathanchan2536 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is one of my favorite videos you all have done so far. Really great comparisons between the HDs. Love it when the manufacturers give what you ask for at the right time!
@kirkenstang
@kirkenstang 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys! I really appreciate the time you put in to these reviews! You have stepped up the game and are setting the bar in my opinion.
@tennvols6383
@tennvols6383 4 жыл бұрын
What a cop-out, don't give a trophy to all three for participating! We spend nearly 40 minutes watching and that's the answer we get
@caoYB
@caoYB 2 жыл бұрын
This channel just keeping getting better
@eyedunno8462
@eyedunno8462 4 жыл бұрын
All are great, Ford Tremor just has the extra wow factor and extra polish with that magical powertrain
@jessehernandez5043
@jessehernandez5043 4 жыл бұрын
Damn those phillips head nails....
@rawwillpower4408
@rawwillpower4408 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@andrewthacker1389
@andrewthacker1389 4 жыл бұрын
its a robertson head
@JessePacheco
@JessePacheco 3 жыл бұрын
Love watching you guys!!! Thanks fellas! Stay safe out there!
@kootzwalker-ben7071
@kootzwalker-ben7071 4 жыл бұрын
The only in class and the king off road worthy Ram Power Wagon. 👊💪💪
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiff3253 What are you doing here?
@MyTubeUser321
@MyTubeUser321 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Like I said previously, you guys are THE authority when it comes to ANYTHING pickup truck! That being said, all these trucks are impressive. I was impressed with the Power Wagon's fuel economy, the GM's RTI with IFS, and Ford's overall package. What a time to be an offroad pickup fan!
@paulherring8208
@paulherring8208 4 жыл бұрын
Tfl you guys are on it this Saturday nice review
@T_157-40
@T_157-40 4 жыл бұрын
Tremor gets my vote for best truck for my purposes. I had a 1977 K5 383 stoker for years but it shook my teeth out on the trail far more than what any of these guys experienced.
@Barefoot-Bob
@Barefoot-Bob Жыл бұрын
until you try to work that tremor and the 10 speed explodes
@sly9263
@sly9263 11 ай бұрын
@@Barefoot-Bob parroting your mom's bedtime stories?
@Barefoot-Bob
@Barefoot-Bob 11 ай бұрын
@@sly9263 ya we had a fleet of them in line const . high failure rate , but ya you read something on the internet or your a straight up fan boy so I'm sure you know more than a person who lives it.
@sly9263
@sly9263 11 ай бұрын
@@Barefoot-Bob lmfao I have visibility to 60% of govt fleets in the country and can see data on all PMs and service. Youre talking nonsense
@Barefoot-Bob
@Barefoot-Bob 11 ай бұрын
@@sly9263 lol a bureaucrat! and everyone wonders why this country is going to shit. So now you propose to tell me what i see and dealt with. and the best part is "govt fleets". you truly have me laughing ! let me explain I'm talking about trucks that have to do REAL work . I understand that is a foreign concept for you .
@donoberloh
@donoberloh 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have a host of real off road options to select from the dealer to be installed and under factory warranty.
@m1lkman1974
@m1lkman1974 4 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet!! Thank you for bringing us this comparison!! Bang on as I consider my next truck purchase!!
@tiagoizaguirre8837
@tiagoizaguirre8837 4 жыл бұрын
DODGE=have some fun GMC=luxury, precision beauty FORD=hard working, reliable power
@holdenashworth60
@holdenashworth60 3 жыл бұрын
Which one do you have
@megaxboxx
@megaxboxx 3 жыл бұрын
wtf are you saying these type of comments are so cringy
@tiagoizaguirre8837
@tiagoizaguirre8837 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old ford, look around, company's such as centurylink, amazon, ups and fedex use ford vehicles or engines, gmc/chevy vehicles are used as transportation for high class people and dodge is for the guys racing down the street in their 07 hemi/cummins
@tiagoizaguirre8837
@tiagoizaguirre8837 3 жыл бұрын
@This username there truck line up, xl and xlt have plastic interior
@tiagoizaguirre8837
@tiagoizaguirre8837 3 жыл бұрын
@@megaxboxx ok
@steveczerniak4688
@steveczerniak4688 2 жыл бұрын
These 3 guys are the best source of information !!
@jerrypolete5258
@jerrypolete5258 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 19 F250 and I love it! Such an awesome truck. I raced a camero one day and I took it for about 100 Yards till it finally passed me. These F250’s are spunky and powerful.
@jameslarn7114
@jameslarn7114 4 жыл бұрын
👎🏽
@crowdnine878
@crowdnine878 3 жыл бұрын
I've torn up a number of mustangs in my silverado. That's bc trucks have low end
@APGJuggernaut
@APGJuggernaut 4 жыл бұрын
im supposed to be getting my daughter ready for iceskating, but im getting yelled at cause im watching TFL.
@chrisnewby5713
@chrisnewby5713 4 жыл бұрын
APGJuggernaut it’s just skating , the ice is implied
@chrisnewby5713
@chrisnewby5713 4 жыл бұрын
Unless your going asphalt skating...in that case good luck 😂
@APGJuggernaut
@APGJuggernaut 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisnewby5713 Or roller skating. Honestly im just used to saying ice skating
@bigpeeler
@bigpeeler 4 жыл бұрын
I admire your priorities, sir.
@kingpin3919
@kingpin3919 4 жыл бұрын
You guys just continue to get better and better! Love the videos. Keep up the great work fellas.
@jm-hb9tl
@jm-hb9tl 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf is this? No child left behind? So everyone gets a Participation Trophy🏆.
@grayghost1423
@grayghost1423 2 жыл бұрын
Best truck videos, hands down. You set the standard.
@markjones4358
@markjones4358 4 жыл бұрын
That particular Tremor package looks REALLY good
@mikederucki
@mikederucki 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Jones so refreshing compared to all the old man chrome Ford has been putting out
@mt1885
@mt1885 4 жыл бұрын
It *SHAKES* all over the road horrid front end and the worst truck all marketing hype!
@mericafreedomland3583
@mericafreedomland3583 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree, i cannot believe a oem truck has 1k plus tq factory
@tcr2237
@tcr2237 3 жыл бұрын
@@mt1885 you drive one?
@HeresTheGenZFlorentineFolks.
@HeresTheGenZFlorentineFolks. 4 жыл бұрын
Ford ❤️
@Coyote-ds7rm
@Coyote-ds7rm 4 жыл бұрын
TFL has done a good job building their channel, and a little bit of of tests that I didn't know existed with 80,000$ trucks....
@JasonWh
@JasonWh 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 PowerWagon 75th anniversary and that disconnecting swaybar is a game changer. 37's from certain offroad tire manufacturers will work fine with factory suspension. Not all 37's are the same outside diameter. I replaced teh suspension with the Carli/King Pintop system and radius arms and with locking front and rear diff, it's untouchable.
@Usialbubba7283
@Usialbubba7283 7 ай бұрын
This is the ideal hd off-road truck whilst keeping it a good on road vehicle.
@bobvincent4841
@bobvincent4841 4 жыл бұрын
I challenge TFL to put that Tremor against my PowerWagon. Throw some 37 inch Milestar Patagonias on your Tremor and tell me where we can meet to do a head to head trail challenge. With that said, great video guys!! And THANKS for the hat the other day! There is a couple things a little off with the Power Wagon test, 1) Sway bar disconnect failure could've been dealt with by giving the truck a gentle rocking side to side. A 3 mph roll and using a little left to right action on the steering wheel will do, or just drive it over anything uneven, it will go. If the bar has any load, it won't disengage until pressure is neutralized. No issue when you understand that simple trick. It took me a while to figure that one out, LOL. Yes, as Andre said, the PowerWagon RTI would've been even better had the bar been disengaged. 2) The crawl speed test was, really, bunk because the Power Wagon is the ONLY vehicle there that is 'programmed and designed' to raise the engine rpm idle speed while in 4 low, and consequently the speed test would've been more accurate had all 3 trucks been in high range. This 'rpm increase' feature is actually a huge benefit for climbing and makes crawling "up" and then over larger rocks to be smoother without the erratic herky jerkyness and belly damage that heavier diesel trucks tend to have as they spool up turbo power and then end up bouncing harder over rocks. Obviously in 4 low with no brake application and increased rpms, the Wagon will go faster than the other trucks on the flat, but up a steep hill you'd find that the Wagon will feel more planted and controlled, making it a better OFFROADER. I have always liked the fact that my Power Wagon increases its rpms in 4 low, and also while running the winch, and while jump starting other vehicles. It shouldn't be shown as a disqualification as the video suggests. With brake pedal application, it makes navigating over larger rocks and ditches a dream. For an example of this, it was illustrated by Steven in the TFL "GM vs RAM" video that you published 2 months ago at about 8 minutes and 40 seconds in to the video where Steven locked the Power Wagon axles and crawled out of the ditch with NO throttle and he then chuckled that it was so easy. More reasons why, to me, the Power Wagon is a 'more capable' OFFROADER, and remains supreme. Just please get RID of those 33 inch tires! LOL But again, as always, GREAT video guys!!! Always love your mashups, reviews, content and info! The smart alek in me says, for a real test on that GMC, go stick it under some guys fifth wheel camper (cuz it's good for that) and then go put some 37s on the Tremor and go climb heart attack hill over at Kelly Flats up West of Ft Collins in rd 14 against my 2016 Power Wagon with 37 inch Patagonias and almost 90000 miles on it. Just say when, and I'd LOVE to meet u there or anywhere. I don't have an 8 speed nor do I have so deep a crawl ratio as the newer PowerWagon in your video, but i bet a hundred bucks that my old truck would do Heart Attack easier than that Tremor would. I forgot to say, u better put sliders on that Ford or it WILL likely get rocker panel damage. Lol, I destroyed my nerfies there. You know ALL them Ford guys would like to see me get wiped by that Tremor! Eh? Eh? Eh, any Tremor takers??? Come on TFL 👀
@troyanderson8879
@troyanderson8879 4 жыл бұрын
So... I'm impressed with all of the mileage numbers. All 3 exceeded my expectations. That's awesome.
@appalachianpatriot183
@appalachianpatriot183 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, good gas mileage for big honking trucks. One thing everyone needs to keep in mind before they pick on the ram for fuel mileage is that the diesels make up for the low cost at the pump when it comes repair time. The cost of maintenance and repair on a diesel drivetrain is awful compared to a regular gas engine. I like a gas engine truck for the practicality.
@troyanderson8879
@troyanderson8879 2 жыл бұрын
@@appalachianpatriot183 no argument there. Diesel fuel would have to be 1/2 the price of gas to make it even… so it seems.
@twistedwhispers100
@twistedwhispers100 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that music segment in the beginning was killer! I happily own a 03 Tacoma TRD Off Road Pre Runner and I love it! Only wish I had just a tad more HP and Torque coming from that I4
@johnleslie9493
@johnleslie9493 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I keep watching TFLTruck? Because you guys always seem to be having fun and really enjoying what you do. More smiles per hour!!!! Thanks again!
@MissleT0E
@MissleT0E Жыл бұрын
Not really….
@Jassman3536
@Jassman3536 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Guys. I really appreciate the different view points and information and the amount of time and work that it takes to get these videos to us. Is it possible to do another test with the Ford 7.3 and GMC gas . I believe the lighter weight of the gas motors would make both the Ford and GMC compete a little better off road. This way we could also see the fuel economy in comparison. Keep up the great work
@SMiller5488
@SMiller5488 4 жыл бұрын
I wish, fact is they get what they get from the manufacturer and say thank you. Kinds crazy as the gas model is going to lighter and perform much better off road. You would think the manufacturer would do everything they could to help but...
@BamaShinesDistillery
@BamaShinesDistillery 4 жыл бұрын
not really with the Ford. They wanted it to do off road but also haul your camper....its a balance between both worlds. I can appreciate that. Out where we are it does matter. Its nice to have a good 4x4 that can actually do work in sticky situations. I dont know anyone who buys trucks who actually gets a Power Wagon unless its a kid., (FWIW, I do have a PW.....of course mine is a 1968 W200 with a slant six)
@lucashello8399
@lucashello8399 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see a towing review with the dodge hd duramax and ford f250 all deleted
@mlevi512
@mlevi512 4 жыл бұрын
You should really have helmets on for that EXTREME off-roading. Haha
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 4 жыл бұрын
And full driving suits
@strummerandboog6122
@strummerandboog6122 4 жыл бұрын
For these trucks, this is extreme off roading lmao.
@kdmtrap7268
@kdmtrap7268 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't even rough idiot lmao
@mlevi512
@mlevi512 3 жыл бұрын
@@kdmtrap7268 you're not much for sarcasm are you? Lmao
@coon3869
@coon3869 3 жыл бұрын
You can literally do mostly all of that shit in a Kia, how embarrassing
@halllwd94
@halllwd94 4 жыл бұрын
"lowest crawl ratio, this isn't how this works" as his idle is 4-600rpms higher
@stevenjalopnik1342
@stevenjalopnik1342 3 жыл бұрын
Had a chuckle at them thinking it was due to tire size. A bigger tire increase crawl speed. It doesn’t lower it
@makamatin9257
@makamatin9257 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen the GMC HD AT4 in person and it looks like a tank. it's amazing.
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for mentioning the ground clearance caveat with the power wagon. kinda bugs me they are even still marketing this "body clearance" number.
@littlejln213
@littlejln213 4 жыл бұрын
"and there is snow up there." points up to a bare mountain.
@cody4516
@cody4516 4 жыл бұрын
TFLoffroad: "Only One Rules" TFLoffroad at the end of the video: "jk lol they all rule" dafaq
@samuelbenton5903
@samuelbenton5903 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to coheed and cambria in the Ram. Hell yeah. My favorite album by them too.
@user-fq3uh7bt1t
@user-fq3uh7bt1t 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting patiently for this one for a while...
@RugbyLock2668
@RugbyLock2668 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that the weather limited what you could do but calling that an "Ultimate Off-Road Test" is just a tad disingenuous...
@bobvincent4841
@bobvincent4841 4 жыл бұрын
All 3 these trucks need to revisit this challenge in the spring when Moab is dry, and take them to the Golden crack, Hell's Gate, anything besides fins n things.
@MD-4
@MD-4 2 жыл бұрын
Best video of yours I've watched. Reminiscent of a top gear episode. Loved it.
@pauls2182
@pauls2182 4 жыл бұрын
That intro was awesome!
@nateirvision9266
@nateirvision9266 4 жыл бұрын
75 PSI in the rear tires on the Ford?? Seems a bit excessive for off-road driving...
@MACH1TIPS
@MACH1TIPS 4 жыл бұрын
Itd be better to lower it but i think they where just going on factory settings.
@resharddurdley6987
@resharddurdley6987 3 жыл бұрын
Issue with duratracs...they don't last long at all on a super duty
@mikespecht
@mikespecht 3 жыл бұрын
I had a power wagon for a rental truck. I was not easy on it, I got single digit mph I believe, but then again I actually used it off-road. The tires lost a substantial amount of life. I was in 1-2 feet of snow in a cornfield doing donuts at sometime past midnight. It was fun.
@mikespecht
@mikespecht 3 жыл бұрын
These guy must think a paved boat ramp is extreme off-roading.
@noel5141
@noel5141 4 жыл бұрын
U guys are Hilarious 🤣!👍 when refilling up yall were like alright what about you for the dodge ram . The eerie sound was funny !
@medcheez
@medcheez 4 жыл бұрын
In order to disconnect the sway bar you need to rock the truck from side to side not forward to back, the mechanism is bound up from the weight of the truck and the actuator that pushes the plunger to disengage the sway bar is spring loaded so it will pop out as soon as pressure is relieved.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 4 жыл бұрын
Tremor is easily the sexiest full sized pickup this year. No question.
@ajp769
@ajp769 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Deez trash opinions are still opinions I guess
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 4 жыл бұрын
@@ajp769 Ford is best selling. Deal with it.
@thomasdrummond2476
@thomasdrummond2476 4 жыл бұрын
True, soccer moms buy a lot of Ford trucks. Let's be honest. Most people that buy pickup trucks these days either lift them to take attention away from their pecker size, or it's the family station wagon. Like 1% of truck owners would take them off road like this.
@Ryno-fp7pm
@Ryno-fp7pm 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdrummond2476 1%? Not even that much. I've never seen a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup in an ORV park.
@user-wd8vp8mc6h
@user-wd8vp8mc6h 4 жыл бұрын
I like how they compliment each other's trucks with the occasional joke.
@jerodb7759
@jerodb7759 3 жыл бұрын
My fiancé and I drove through this area during this storm as well! We were headed from Pagosa Springs to Washington .
@mblake0420
@mblake0420 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have the crawl ratio to tire size backwards.
@jrhunt414
@jrhunt414 4 жыл бұрын
Blake I bet the gas engine idles higher than the diesels.
@stevegiordano7851
@stevegiordano7851 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrhunt414 at red lights on inclines I never have to use my brake, in my '16 Power Wagon , never rolls backward. mostly never ;) people in back of me must shit themselves, but Power Wagon don't care
@843OutdoorsSC
@843OutdoorsSC 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Bigger tires should speed up crawl not slow it down.
@Guns_Gears_Stuff
@Guns_Gears_Stuff 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrhunt414 I 100% agree the idle speed was the deciding factor, but to be fair the test should have been run on flat smooth ground to eliminate all variables.
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 4 жыл бұрын
The computer in the Power Wagon increases the idle speed when in low range to help maintain smoother forward speed when rock crawling. I find it irritating. The diesels probably idle at least 20% lower (of course they won't spin up to 6k rpm either)
@TheNuclearBolton
@TheNuclearBolton 4 жыл бұрын
The new 7.3l is getting a ton of attention lol
@lcee6592
@lcee6592 4 жыл бұрын
When did they start making nails with philips heads?...
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be any less flat if he had said screw?
@lcee6592
@lcee6592 3 жыл бұрын
Krane, yes it would make a difference ... wow dude, I was being sarcastic. Who really cares if he said thumb tac?!
@rockheadesq.8720
@rockheadesq.8720 3 жыл бұрын
@@krane15 No, but it would've went flatter quicker.
@tallonhildreth5055
@tallonhildreth5055 3 жыл бұрын
That made me laugh
@Force_DLX
@Force_DLX 4 жыл бұрын
All 3 trucks look and perform very well, I'd personally go with the Tremor, that front end looks really good without the horrible chrome trim.
@baronvonkaiser9912
@baronvonkaiser9912 Жыл бұрын
the chrome is my favorite part
@bmartin7828
@bmartin7828 4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. As always very entertaining and informative.
@JLawL
@JLawL 4 жыл бұрын
AAA has the F250 as the most reliable vehicle - not just truck - in the USA for the 8th straight year. It can't be beat. The 2021 models have some crazy upgrades too! No other major truck has self parking either (Platinum only atm)
@stevebrygadyr1675
@stevebrygadyr1675 3 жыл бұрын
I owned three power wagons and used them for work in the oilfield, these guys have no idea what the power wagon will actually do!
@freedomrider266
@freedomrider266 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite truck, but the sucky payload prevents me from buying...
@bigskyguy1611
@bigskyguy1611 4 жыл бұрын
Fun video. I'm on my second power wagon. I've had the 2012 PW with 5.7 hemi and 4.56 rear end. Now I have the 2016 6.4 hemi (MDS) with 3.73. The 5.7 with leaf springs and 4.56 rear is a far, far better than the 6.4l 5-link coil sprung. The 6.4 is garbage and the PW is way, way too heavy for the MDS system to work. My 5.7 was 14s MPG. My 6.4 is 10-11 MPG.
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 4 жыл бұрын
DANG I LOVE THESE VIDEOS, Saturday morning enjoyment great work team
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@wipatriot510
@wipatriot510 4 жыл бұрын
All 3 have positives and negatives...having said that, I just bought a 2020 GMC 3500HD AT4 and will take delivery in the coming week...
@jasonmasters9653
@jasonmasters9653 3 жыл бұрын
should'a spent more and got the Tremor!
@fivecrosses9040
@fivecrosses9040 3 жыл бұрын
Any issues so far?
@coachbeam3600
@coachbeam3600 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel
@joelcarlos2383
@joelcarlos2383 4 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to what you are going to use the truck for. I bought my 2019 power wagon knowing that it was going to be used for fun and not work and I love it. And as far as fuel economy and towing, I can get 17.5 mpg hwy and tow my 32ft travel trailer averaging 12 mpg with out any problems.
@baseybert
@baseybert 4 жыл бұрын
Interested to have the fuel cost calculated when doing the MPG test comparing Gas vs Diesel. Cost at the pump is probably more important to actual comsumers.
@Linkx1136
@Linkx1136 2 жыл бұрын
I get 14.5 mpg in my Ram 1500 with a 4” lift and 35’s…. Glad to see nothings changed going higher lol
@zacharyjoseph9976
@zacharyjoseph9976 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to point out that larger tires do not crawl slower, especially if the other trucks have a taller final gear ratio. If the power wagon isn't locked into 1st gear it will automatically switch into 2nd just like the wrangler does. And another thing to take into consideration, diesel engines idle slower than gasoline, and not all transmissions are going to lock into gear while at low idle speeds. If the torque converter isn't locked in that will make the vehicle crawl slower because there is less power being transferred into the driveline.
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@028943182
@028943182 4 жыл бұрын
You guys need to realize that the larger Tire actually is a disadvantage when figuring crawl ratios. For every rotation of the tire you travel further. Andre needs to do a little research
@OliG2
@OliG2 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking ! I can't believe none of these guys thought about that... A smaller tire would actually act as a reduction ratio factor, not the opposite like they're saying ! What about idle engine RPM, that makes a huge difference as well !
@willc5979
@willc5979 4 жыл бұрын
What did you expect from these guys lol
@10dannyp89
@10dannyp89 4 жыл бұрын
It is all about where your torque converter starts to engage. Not a shock that it hits at lower rpm in a diesel.
@OliG2
@OliG2 4 жыл бұрын
@@10dannyp89 good explanation, thanks for bringing that up !
@jacobg5122
@jacobg5122 4 жыл бұрын
@@10dannyp89 To an extent, yes, but a torque converter doesn't ever actually disengage. The stall speed is the point of maximum torque transfer, but as long as the impeller is spinning, the turbine will be under load and trying to spin. The gas engine, with its higher idle, would actually put the most power through the converter at idle.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 4 жыл бұрын
Power wagon needs to get 35in tires from the factory. Even if they need to add another inch of lift
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 4 жыл бұрын
35s fit easily with no lift. 37s fit with no lift and different wheels or trimming. 39s will even fit with wheels and more trimming.
@stevegiordano7851
@stevegiordano7851 4 жыл бұрын
most guys switch those 33's out right away, now I want 37"s
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 4 жыл бұрын
wirebrush still need to be that way from the factory tho
@KoolCordell
@KoolCordell 4 жыл бұрын
@@toofastnobrakes roll stability is why they are so small they have to pass the elk test now days
@SlayuhGG
@SlayuhGG 4 жыл бұрын
So ur gas goes to 10mpg vs 12?
@heathwilliams4736
@heathwilliams4736 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great comparison. Glad I watched
@RocketGlizzy
@RocketGlizzy 4 жыл бұрын
THAT FORD 😍😍😍😍 HOT DAMN THATS A NICE TRUCK
@c.h.9827
@c.h.9827 3 жыл бұрын
it's fantastic! i love mine
@spike4u2u
@spike4u2u 4 жыл бұрын
Use a simple pendulum next time, It would be way more accurate and more mathematically accurate leaving human error more minimized. Thanks for the video!! TFL is awesome!
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 4 жыл бұрын
A pendulum won't work, because they are on an inclined surface. It would actually point to well behind the tires center line. But the bigger issue is them driving to get a tire off the ground. An RTI is only valid if all four tires are on the ground.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 4 жыл бұрын
Genius. 👌🏻👍🏻
@pnorton75
@pnorton75 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stuka87 no.
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 4 жыл бұрын
@@pnorton75 ok?
@philtripe
@philtripe 4 жыл бұрын
or a framing square since you dont want it to point straight down...dummy...
@vincentorona163
@vincentorona163 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see the gas Tremor with the optional winch vs the Power Wagon!!! Then we can talk head to head
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
Vincent Orona How so, the Power Wagon was clearly the better off road machine.
@TamingTrails
@TamingTrails 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Later this year when they can option out the tremor like that it will make a sweet video! I kinda like the extra height and 35s on the tremor with that 7.3!
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
GT500 I did, you need watch again without bias. The Power Wagon performed all off road functions with more ease than the others.
@roadglide1142
@roadglide1142 4 жыл бұрын
I’m the end the Powerwagon has the pure off road suspension and front locker & axle disconnect when it’s working lol
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
Leonard Russo First time I have ever seen one not work. Didn’t need it anyway to beat the Ford and Chevy.
@shawnriddle3018
@shawnriddle3018 3 жыл бұрын
power wagon for off road towing. Power wagon to the Rescue. I started charging for gas money. hooking them on the wire. your slow race was rigged. the power wagon has a different gas pedal mapping. raising the rpm. great video. luv driving in fresh snow.
@distance3348
@distance3348 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I love the look on all these trucks and they all have their ups and downs and pros and cons
I wish I could change THIS fast! 🤣
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