Can the GMC Sierra HD AT4 Dethrone the Ram Power Wagon Off-Road? We Get Them Muddy to Find Out!

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4 жыл бұрын

(www.TFLoffroad.com) The Ram Power Wagon finally has some competition in the HD off-road space, so of course we need to find out which truck is best.
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@josephwhiskeybeale
@josephwhiskeybeale 4 жыл бұрын
Power Wagon don’t care!
@OGcottoncandyrandy
@OGcottoncandyrandy 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Whiskey Beale cause it’s probably at the dealership broken 80% of the time.
@youngblood23rb
@youngblood23rb 4 жыл бұрын
@@OGcottoncandyrandy haha such an original comment
@joeyscleaninglady2877
@joeyscleaninglady2877 4 жыл бұрын
cybertruck destroys power wagon
@youngblood23rb
@youngblood23rb 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeyscleaninglady2877 And yet no one but you cares
@wlteemo2734
@wlteemo2734 4 жыл бұрын
The 2020 Ram PW will have the 360 camera system
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
Powerwagon for offroading, GMC for towing. Got it. However it should be an option from the dealer to get your Powerwagon with 35"-36" tires...
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, those 285s are freaking small I rather have the truck come standard with 35s and the way the new trucks sit almost level they can easily clear those.
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 4 жыл бұрын
Throw a set of 37s on the PW and drop the insanely high tire pressure down to 35-40 and the PW not only rides twice as nice as stock, but it's much more capable as well.
@1234567890ZETA
@1234567890ZETA 4 жыл бұрын
@@wirebrush yeah I have 37s on my Power Wagon, only way you can get it balanced right from the store was with beads. I have it aired to 50 psi just rides great.
@jeepjoseph9036
@jeepjoseph9036 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at a powerwagon its still only 9 inches wide
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
@@shitloveaduck I understand that, but what I am saying is if everyone wants bigger tires, FCA should make it an option.
@RyanRKJ
@RyanRKJ 4 жыл бұрын
Off Road Appearance Package vs Off Road Package.
@tbhj5912
@tbhj5912 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan rkj gmc don’t have a real off road package on a heavy duty trucks. Agree with you.
@MrPanzerCatYT
@MrPanzerCatYT 4 жыл бұрын
Gmc has the taking your boat or gear to the unpaved spot with clout package
@1x5.22
@1x5.22 4 жыл бұрын
@@tbhj5912 the 1500at4 is better imo
@jsabo4
@jsabo4 4 жыл бұрын
Sums it up entirely. Same with the Acadia at4. Just appearance package with all-terrain tires. Like if you make an off-road package, include off-road capability.
@SuperCJification
@SuperCJification 4 жыл бұрын
@@jsabo4 I get why manufacturers do this, but at the same time I don't. This is honestly GMC's answer to the Power Wagon.... a small lift, some all-terrain tires (that can be had on even half ton's randomly on the lot with 4x4 and no special options), and some shocks (that apparently aren't tuned to be as soft as the Power Wagon's for bouncing off road).
@DaRevrin
@DaRevrin 4 жыл бұрын
More videos with Steve if possible. He is very knowledgeable, speaks very well when getting his points across, and seems to really enjoy what he does. Would be nice to see him included in more videos.
@lavrinnd1858
@lavrinnd1858 4 жыл бұрын
Tremor vs AT4 should be interesting but I think the power wagon is still in a class of it's own when it comes to offroad
@woodheat49
@woodheat49 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 2019 Power Wagon. Takes us everywhere we want to go and it tows, hauls everything we Alaskans need to go beyond mankind.
@sassyquatchmtb4337
@sassyquatchmtb4337 4 жыл бұрын
Amen! 😊
@cristobalbaeza1241
@cristobalbaeza1241 4 жыл бұрын
Wood Heat pos
@woodheat49
@woodheat49 4 жыл бұрын
@@cristobalbaeza1241 Whatever helps you sleep at night. Was fun watching that GM drag and grind over that rock.
@bossmansal67
@bossmansal67 4 жыл бұрын
@@cristobalbaeza1241 "Hurr durr I'm hating just because I can and for no logical reason durrrr"
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
I can attest that RAM has grossly underrated the payload capacity of the Power Wagon for some reason. I had 1000lbs of bentonite on a pallet near the tailgate and was surprised how little it squatted given RAM numbers. It drove like it wasn’t even there.
@alexhelder3185
@alexhelder3185 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the guest star this week! I knew luke combs liked off roading
@aaronguenther3577
@aaronguenther3577 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@1mlb704
@1mlb704 4 жыл бұрын
What is Luke combing?
@408lethal
@408lethal 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@gtballou3968
@gtballou3968 4 жыл бұрын
Nice camera work, Tommy
@mountainmanjim6366
@mountainmanjim6366 4 жыл бұрын
I like this mash up! Yall work well together, and bring a ton of knowledge to the game
@ddub2195
@ddub2195 4 жыл бұрын
Great review guys. This is the only channel I trust to tell it how it is and not baby these 80K trucks. Well done.
@razorsedgeadventures6599
@razorsedgeadventures6599 4 жыл бұрын
Ummm… if that wasn't babying the trucks I'm not sure what it was! Your in Moab for gosh sakes! Could have filmed that extreme off road activity in a vacant lot in Jersey!
@TheFanitcalFan
@TheFanitcalFan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job guys. Good to see Steve again. Great camera work Tommy
@vincentbeale1316
@vincentbeale1316 4 жыл бұрын
The HD GMC did damn good even though it doesn't have all the lockers and disconnecting front in that the powerwagon has and it's a heavier truck the g80 worked fine
@donaldthomason4588
@donaldthomason4588 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 1500 6.2 AT4, the power is awesome! I've pulled out jeeps, Rebel and a Raptor with the 3.5 turbo crap...keep them coming!
@brdn-official
@brdn-official 4 жыл бұрын
Best video y’all have done in awhile! Get these two along with the raptor and do this exact trail again!
@ronsmith7880
@ronsmith7880 4 жыл бұрын
Another Awesome Off road video🏁🏁🏁Two really cool trucks...Awesome work Roman n Steve.
@takiman1
@takiman1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual but you NEED to get microphones.
@charlesburns6601
@charlesburns6601 4 жыл бұрын
GMC all the way or work and playing don't ever have a problem
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Burns That front end drag though....
@donkiko6708
@donkiko6708 3 жыл бұрын
Dodge is better dude
@mikcun2799
@mikcun2799 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlbush8249 power wagon drug the front too. Just saying.
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikcun2799 Seriously dude? Barely rubbing versus crunching and damaging the front end. The two are somehow the same?
@mikcun2799
@mikcun2799 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlbush8249 What you don't understand? It is something most anyone who has ever driven off pavement knows. If you drive through the same mud, then you will sink more the second time. This is because you displace some of the dirt when driving through. Not to mention the GMC took a much worse angle of approach. Try not to let this get you heated bro. I just felt the impulse to educate someone that lacks basic understanding, or is just blindly bandwagoning because they are a fanboy. Please do reply to tell me how ill informed I am. I do love hatemail. Salty people are so sad, but funny to laugh at. 😄😆😆😆🤪
@tyleranderson5823
@tyleranderson5823 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the Power Wagon to destroy the tremor next! It just has too much stuff going for it straight out of the box
@MrLuckycentury
@MrLuckycentury 4 жыл бұрын
Power Wagon with front and rear lockers, lighter, and with the disconnect away bar is all day winner even over the Tremor.
@bobvincent4841
@bobvincent4841 4 жыл бұрын
@@shitloveaduck I work the crap out of my 2016 PW. All it took was a couple airbags. Only $300 and 45 minutes for me to install and i can do anything a Chevy or Ford can when it comes to hauling, sure, a little slower up hill, but it will do it, and more.
@brandonorozco8358
@brandonorozco8358 4 жыл бұрын
Especially since the PowerWagon is coming with a diesel in 2020.
@brandonorozco8358
@brandonorozco8358 4 жыл бұрын
@@shitloveaduck tfl literally went to a ram Showcase and showed around the truck. And it's got a brand new hitch and everything. Max payload is around 1,600 lb and Max Towing in around 14,000 pounds. I think they said it has around 800 pound-feet of torque. It's not meant for towing it's meant for off-roading so you don't have that 37000 lb of Towing like on other diesels. But I can assure you it's a real thing
@brandonorozco8358
@brandonorozco8358 4 жыл бұрын
@@shitloveaduck will the 3L EcoDiesel for the rebel outperform the gas variant. So that's not necessarily true they just have to find a way to balance it all out
@t-roy2418
@t-roy2418 4 жыл бұрын
Big man I always like your truck videos. Long time no see..
@kingpin3919
@kingpin3919 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful scenory. Thanks for the video boys.
@brotherhoodofram8967
@brotherhoodofram8967 4 жыл бұрын
Both are nice. The Ram is more appealing to me in my opinion, but they both are aesthetically pleasing to look at. However, on my personal opinion, and knowing heavy duty trucks, the solid axle of the Ram can handle more abuse and weight then that of the IFS of the GMC. IFS is great for on road use, but bad for off road use. You can not get the proper flex for off-roading then say the solid axle trucks like Ram and Ford.
@macbookpro57
@macbookpro57 4 жыл бұрын
These videos make we wish I had a locker on my truck 😕
@brandedmcgowan9414
@brandedmcgowan9414 4 жыл бұрын
Well there aftermarket so you can build it the way you want it, better than buying a expensive ass new truck that the note will eat your monthly income. I miss my 98 z71
@thirstydogs810
@thirstydogs810 4 жыл бұрын
Lockers are really useful. Get some installed as soon as you can.
@Dan-qj7zl
@Dan-qj7zl 4 жыл бұрын
video made me wish i had a truck!
@kurtklimisch7498
@kurtklimisch7498 3 жыл бұрын
@@thirstydogs810 IDK, I have a ZR2, took it off roading over the last 8 months and have needed the lockers once. I think if you have rear lockers and a winch you can get yourself out of any situation.
@mateov1423
@mateov1423 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Power Wagon because of this video. Thanks guy!
@revnto7k
@revnto7k 4 жыл бұрын
Power wagon for me... LOVE that thing!!
@tomnutt6022
@tomnutt6022 Жыл бұрын
Been a ram fan for years still got my 5.9 Cummins but in 22 I had to go to the Pacific blue Duramax Crew can..love it
@tier1detailcompany
@tier1detailcompany 4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys
@drinny23la4
@drinny23la4 3 жыл бұрын
Both of my fav. guys working together!
@leedawson5568
@leedawson5568 4 жыл бұрын
Nice little ride there. View is nice.
@youarerightboss
@youarerightboss 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation.
@86Eismann
@86Eismann 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, guys! That was nice. How about the Tremor, though? Maybe its limited slip front diff will be the best option. Keep up the nice vids!
@james2042
@james2042 4 жыл бұрын
The AT4 is for dirt roads and the snow belt, the PowerWagon is for offroad adventure. They are two completely different vehicles to serve 2 completely different purposes. It would be like comparing a 1500 AT4 to a raptor. This truck is meant for towing on rough roads, not making its own roads. PowerWagon is a fun toy if you have lots of money, but the AT4 is wildly the more practical truck. All they need to do is give it an electronic locker in the rear and maybe an LSD in the front like the tremor. The tremor as of now is the truck to beat because that will get close enough to the PW while maintaining its hauling capability
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
You say it like TFL Truck posts all apples to apples videos. Sometimes it's fun to compare apples to oranges
@james2042
@james2042 4 жыл бұрын
@@gmcdenali7178 tfl hasn't posted an apple to apple video is years. The issue is often they will act like they are
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
@@james2042 They are limited to what the manufacturers give them
@james2042
@james2042 4 жыл бұрын
@@gmcdenali7178 They could act like diesel fuel economy isnt directly comparable to gas fuel economy and even acknowledge the difference in regular vs premium. Those are things they 100% control
@tshearn624
@tshearn624 4 жыл бұрын
The Tremor isnt even close to the PW off road.
@hairbarnes530
@hairbarnes530 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Chevy boy myself. I love trucks. Especially from the 4 name brands, dodge ,ford ,Chevy ,gmc etc. Comment down below if you just love trucks
@MrInzombia
@MrInzombia 4 жыл бұрын
Love the ford f150. America’s favorite son.
@altrock86
@altrock86 4 жыл бұрын
I have a little Toyota. I would love anything from the big 3 though.
@zachtheripper124
@zachtheripper124 4 жыл бұрын
Love trucks period.
@Trident_Euclid
@Trident_Euclid 4 жыл бұрын
@09fx ¿ Agree
@trikelyfe6090
@trikelyfe6090 4 жыл бұрын
Except honda ridgelines.
@snowmanwithahat
@snowmanwithahat 4 жыл бұрын
The Ford Tremor will have the same problems at the AT4. They're hardly a real off-roader, and are definitely a cosmetic package with a street truck built for towing.
@40calDeathPunch
@40calDeathPunch 4 жыл бұрын
Your speaking from the future? I like how idiots so easily complement what they know nothing about.
@snowmanwithahat
@snowmanwithahat 4 жыл бұрын
@@40calDeathPunch not hard to figure out since Ford already released details. It has lockers, but no sway bar disconnect, no winch, and towing and payload that is no different from a normal Super Duty, which means no meaningful change has been made to the suspension to make it any more capable off road.
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 4 жыл бұрын
Matt France Tremor has almost 10” longer wheelbase too.
@DragonKnightX12
@DragonKnightX12 4 жыл бұрын
ZeroCool We already know what’s in the package. It’s a FX4 pack with 2” lift on 35s with a rear locker and front Limited slip. Ford’s off-road tech and sport appearance. Basically if the AT4 has 35s it would be about the same.
@No_nonsense302
@No_nonsense302 4 жыл бұрын
I think the tremor will do slightly better than the AT4. It has a little better clearance and better tires. It’s no power wagon, but like the gmc it can do other things that the dodge can’t. It’s fun to watch them all.
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Tremor. The PW is definitely beast for people often taking an HD on trail journeys though.
@eddualmeida5790
@eddualmeida5790 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!! Bring on that 7.3!!!
@tomorender6479
@tomorender6479 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see them run it
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Orender Me too!
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Eddu almeida I cant wait to see some 7.3L action too. The engine is really appealing to me.
@jerrycannon6940
@jerrycannon6940 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that big power wagon flexxx!!!
@alew3555
@alew3555 4 жыл бұрын
Man the scenery. Especially at (11 minute mark) incredible. It sucks being in Delaware
@jdw1407
@jdw1407 4 жыл бұрын
Whos going to take a $90k truck off road. I know I wouldn't
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
Neither would I lmao I'd get something cheap for that
@jlbush8249
@jlbush8249 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, and that’s why it wasn’t build to seriously compete with the Power Wagon.
@tshearn624
@tshearn624 4 жыл бұрын
77k not 90k but either way its not really built for my kind of off roading.
@wipatriot510
@wipatriot510 4 жыл бұрын
Neither truck is $90k, even with all the options available...
@johnw4067
@johnw4067 4 жыл бұрын
The GMC sure is ugly, tho not as hideous as some of the Chevy's. While not in the same class, my Toyota Tacoma is far better looking.
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the coffee and poop analogy.
@iQuantium
@iQuantium 4 жыл бұрын
10:10 How to get a GMC Sierra out of an articulation test, "Okay Just try applying a little throttle" hahaha so funny! Thanks
@midvalleystaff1514
@midvalleystaff1514 4 жыл бұрын
Great Review
@netosouzalima237
@netosouzalima237 4 жыл бұрын
Sensacional vídeo!👍🏾
@alondranowe414
@alondranowe414 4 жыл бұрын
We have a 73 dodge power wagon W-250 4x4, 4" suspension lift, 4-speed with lockers front n rear axles, 12,000 lb. Warn " worm gear driven Ramsey winch. Built like a tank. We have pulled out many stuck 4x4's thru the years. All makes, all types. NOTHING LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL 4X4 h.d. trucks.
@welcometothefreeworld
@welcometothefreeworld 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video.
@CoastingOnFumes
@CoastingOnFumes 4 жыл бұрын
This went how everyone assumed it would. The Tremor comes off the bench on January 21 and the match-ups will get more interesting. It's still probably not going to work as well as the PW on the trail, but at least the comparison will be worth talking about.
@wipatriot510
@wipatriot510 4 жыл бұрын
And while the GMC does NOT have the front locker, at 11min, once that G80 locked up it was still able to navigate the same line that the Power Wagon did with both front and rear lockers... While I'll agree the Power Wagon is better suited for O/R activities, the AT4 can do it all, O/R, tow, haul, and is better equipped for all around activities... 2002 GMC 2500HD, 4.5" BDS coilover conversion lift, 33x12.50, w/LB7 Duramax, #7000 2020 GMC 3500HD AT4 w/L5P Duramax, %100 Stock, #8300
@tingokuman
@tingokuman 4 жыл бұрын
I'm old school I like to pull my 5th wheel/gear confidently and safely. That AT4 will get me through just about any trail. Soon as you ask the Powerwagon to be a heavy duty truck it DO care and you are left with a 21ft jeep wrangler.
@fifthcircle1
@fifthcircle1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda. It's really rated lower than it should be, and if you toss on some air bag helper springs, it's 90% back to non PW hauling. Not ideal for 5th wheel rig for sure!
@woodheat49
@woodheat49 4 жыл бұрын
I tow a 21' Customweld XXL with a 200HP outboard with all our gear for 2 weeks up the Klutina or Copper River. Our Power Wagon does it with ease. I dont need nor want a hay hauler.
@chadsingleton7632
@chadsingleton7632 4 жыл бұрын
@@woodheat49 I could handle that with my v6 tacoma trd and still not top center on a hill. A 2500 Powerwagon is supposed to have the power. If you put a diesel in it you would have a 500lb payload. 😂. Hey it looks good and I guess thats all that matters.
@chrisbowie9351
@chrisbowie9351 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Singleton Taco is nothing more then a Rav-4 with a bed.
@woodheat49
@woodheat49 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadsingleton7632 You're funny. I bet you use Apple products as well, dont you? My Customweld weighs 4800 dry without the motor and trailer. Trailer is 1200lbs E-Tec motor is 600lbs plus we take a CanAm 850 XT Max in the bed of the truck along with our gear which is about 1000lbs. Your Taco can only dream of going where we go hauling what we haul. Your Taco wont even haul my ATV in it's bed. Ive pulled a lot of people like you with Toyotas out of places you think your toy can go. This is Alaska. Not some dry rocky desert. You wouldn't make it across the first Muskeg. Hell I bet you wouldn't make it through the pass we take through the Alaska Range.
@MrLuckycentury
@MrLuckycentury 4 жыл бұрын
And that's why I bought a 2019 Power Wagon!
@MrChadsaw
@MrChadsaw 4 жыл бұрын
What color? Just curious 😎
@MrLuckycentury
@MrLuckycentury 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrChadsaw blue, 2019 loaded!
@MrChadsaw
@MrChadsaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrLuckycentury very nice! I've got a 2017 Rebel and really want a Power Wagon.
@woodheat49
@woodheat49 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Love our 2019 Power Wagon.
@mikemiller4169
@mikemiller4169 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 19 wagon as well. White Laramie with black decals. If I want to tow a trailer, there are plenty of 6K lb out there.
@geezusmeatball1328
@geezusmeatball1328 4 жыл бұрын
well im really impress with the gmc that go trough those rocks when they where flexing them for and apperence off-road package the Gmc done it as soon the rear lock engage well done GM and well done Ram for a good off-roader
@alexandr.the.greatt
@alexandr.the.greatt 4 жыл бұрын
Ram trucks are better than any other trucks no doubt. If you want a beautiful, reliable, gas saving truck I suggest a Ram
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
Imo GM did it best with the 6.2 and the 8.1 that they should bring back
@mikec5820
@mikec5820 4 жыл бұрын
For day to day driving, that G80 is extremely useful. Pulling away from the side of the road, icy driveways, etc. It kicks in before I'd have time to consider clicking a button. Both types of lockers have their benefits, I've been surprised by how good the G80 is.
@iMernerner
@iMernerner 4 жыл бұрын
yeah. G80s are not That bad at off road too. i'm using one from aftetmarket and have no complaints yet
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, for daily driving and variable driving conditions, the g80 works fine. Works fine in my Silverado and never had an issue with traction. My issue with it off road is that you’ve already lost traction before it kicks in, especially at crawling speeds. So a natural reaction for a driver is to give it some more throttle and then you finally grab traction. That’s a dangerous recipe on tight trails with rocks and trees on either side of you. I think for the AT4 or Trail Boss trims, they should have included an e-locker just like the ZR2.
@mikec5820
@mikec5820 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikec3454 You make a good point.
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikec5820 It comes with the name, Mike C.
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good comment. The powerwagon I think has to have the truck in 4lo to use the locker. The g80 works always.
@pjasyl
@pjasyl 4 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY POWER WAGON PERIOD ! ! ! HANDS DOWN ! ! !
@tclucentig
@tclucentig 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful scenery
@dustinsayes2807
@dustinsayes2807 4 жыл бұрын
I currently have a 2018 gmc duramax 3500 SRW. Before this truck i had the 2017 powerwagon. I RV full time, BLM land, so i'm offroad A LOT. I came the conclusion that the PW is better for pure offroad adventures. The GMC is a more well rounded work truck with off road capabilities. Now, i used to explore in the PW, taking trails like this. But I dont bother to do that in the GMC; the ride is just too rough, it weighs to much. But while pulling the camper the GMC can get me as far back as the powerwagon, considering i'm towing a TT. Now i mountain bike the trails or ride my dual sport, instead of explore in my truck. Trade offs...
@Ram-re5em
@Ram-re5em 4 жыл бұрын
The 6.7 Cummins is way to heavy in the Ram. The Eco diesel will leave you stranded. That is why!
@DL-dj9mn
@DL-dj9mn 4 жыл бұрын
I’d have the GMC
@razorsedgeadventures6599
@razorsedgeadventures6599 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but come on guys! You drove all the way to Moab, with quite possibly some of the best rock crawling in the world, just to splash through a couple mud puddles and over a little washout to declare an off-road king! I've seen groups of Power Wagons at work in the real Moab and let me tell you, they are impressive to say the least!! The GMC is a really nice truck, but put it on some of the real Moab trails and the only way its getting over the first rock is if the Power Wagon drags it over with its factory installed Warn Winch!
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like ram would do good to bring in a bigger hemi for the pw. Maybe a 7.0 “426”. Will have more power but still be lighter than a cummins
@razorsedgeadventures6599
@razorsedgeadventures6599 4 жыл бұрын
In what scenario is 410/429 not enough power? The truck isn't sprung for heavy hauling or heavy towing, and I'm pretty sure it's plenty of power for any rock crawling you will ever due. Last time I was at Moab in my SXS there was a group of probably 10 Power Wagons there and I was stunned at their abilities in the rocks, and I'm not talking about the little piddly stuff the TFL guys were doing, I'm talking about real rock crawling with 6-7' shelfs and stuff I was going around on my RZR! The GMC would have never come close to traversing much of what they were just crawling over. Most of the Power Wagons looked to be stock or very close to stock! I was seriously impressed!
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 4 жыл бұрын
Razors Edge Adventures I personally don’t care about it in the Power wagon. I just know the same motor would roll over into the non power wagon ram 2500&3500. And ram could use a new big block to compete with the new ford and Chevy HD gas trucks
@cliffordhammer6105
@cliffordhammer6105 4 жыл бұрын
@@toofastnobrakes I couldn't agree with you more... Rumors are our there that they are going to do exactly that.
@adamwoitach6578
@adamwoitach6578 3 жыл бұрын
Both are amazing Trucks! Fun review to watch for sure. But in all honesty, I wouldn’t buy the GMC for off-roading by any means. That truck was engineered for towing and hauling in luxury. Maybe with a small amount of off road capability. The power wagon was built for off road. Not really apples to apples at all, but still fun to watch. Thanks guys!!
@skywalker2852
@skywalker2852 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparo of the trade-offs between these two. Seems like the GMC's weight would help the off-road ride (but hurt capability) - I'm thinking the ride comes from the stiffer springs, not weight. The GMC needs at least a rear e-locker on the AT4 (like Chevy needs on the Trail Boss). The Power Wagon needs a diesel option.
@michaelphipps4313
@michaelphipps4313 4 жыл бұрын
Good job guys💪💪💪
@swathdiver489
@swathdiver489 4 жыл бұрын
And yet the GMC went everywhere the PowerWagon went without its front locker, G80 rear, and 700+ pounds more curb weight. Most trucks spend more time working (towing) than playing (trail riding) and GM is focused right.
@xlthumper
@xlthumper 4 жыл бұрын
The power wagon makes sense to me for farmers with huge amounts of land. If your all day off pavement the power wagon is it but if your mostly towing on pavement and then still need to drive your lands the gmc makes more sense.
@steverowe2943
@steverowe2943 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. It would have been a GREAT video if you had the Tremor there too.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 4 жыл бұрын
Please stay tuned
@tomorender6479
@tomorender6479 4 жыл бұрын
Bring it 😂
@scz718645
@scz718645 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish GM would ditch the torsion IFS and develop an HD coil over.
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
As long as they keep the front independent on at least the 3/4 ton I'm all in
@scz718645
@scz718645 4 жыл бұрын
GMC Denali 717 I’d be okay with keeping the IFS just develop an HD coil over like they did with the 1500 in 2007.
@gmcdenali7178
@gmcdenali7178 4 жыл бұрын
@@scz718645 Ok now I see where you're going... yes yes yes I love that idea
@k.r.v.4219
@k.r.v.4219 4 жыл бұрын
Hello boys! As usual great job! Where do I apply? Which one is better? As much as I like the Ram PW, why would I, or anyone buy a HD truck to off-road? If that was the case I’d buy a ZR2 Diesel! But that AT4 GMC HD, is very nice for all around heavy full sized pickup trucks! As it did take you through everything the PW did, without pushing any buttons, sure it rides harder, but what if you had say a nice high quality Truck Camper slid in the bed? Like a beautiful Northern Lite at around a thousandth lbs or so less than the trucks over all load capacity? That, with auxiliary fuel tank would make a great overland Camping Rig. With plenty of hauling capacity left over for a full load of liquids, a friend or significant other and maybe a child or two?
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 4 жыл бұрын
GM completely missed the mark by not putting an e-locker on the AT4 trim or Trail Boss. You’ve already lost traction by the time the G80 kicks in and it’s simply not as controlled as an e-locker. The AT4 HD looks nicer than the PW, but that’s purely subjective.
@wipatriot510
@wipatriot510 4 жыл бұрын
You're on the $$$ with the front locker for the AT4, it would be a worthy option...
@KING-md4zl
@KING-md4zl 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they used a off road truck made for off road vs a towing truck used for towing that has a little bit of off road stuff on it offroad. They could have used a chevy trail boss. This test was BS.
@robertjaugustjr
@robertjaugustjr 4 жыл бұрын
The Trail Boss is a half ton truck competing in the Raptor/Rebel market segment; therefore, this comparison was as good as it gets for GM. Sorry!
@popeyeandstraussmx4165
@popeyeandstraussmx4165 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah Scott EXACTLY
@BlueDually4x4
@BlueDually4x4 4 жыл бұрын
As someone else said this was an "appearance package" VS "an off road package".
@johnmcalisterjr3913
@johnmcalisterjr3913 2 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting forGM to update the interior like the 1500 version hopefully soon
@UltraSS-nj8kd
@UltraSS-nj8kd 4 жыл бұрын
A 2500 diesel focused more on towing *gasp* blasmy i say. I want to drive off-road unloaded in the only 2 huge enough trails for a HD in the #USA . The ZR2 & canyon AT4 makes sense, light & small for trailing. Like the Jeep & defender. Appearance package makes more sense in this case, to me.
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 2 жыл бұрын
Ya I really don’t understand this class of truck. Too big for 90% of trails. They are claimed off road packages, but the approach, break over, and departure are abysmal compared to an actual off road vehicle. I guess it’s just a marketing thing. Lots are sold, none go off road.
@SlowRaker
@SlowRaker 4 жыл бұрын
They both made it through the trail. AT4 tows like a 3/4 ton while going through trails most people would put it on. The big difference for me is that the AT4 has auto 4wd which I would never go without in the climate I live in.
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 4 жыл бұрын
GMC front end to the ground: crunch... pricy truck to run aground
@Hajnik79
@Hajnik79 2 жыл бұрын
Love the rams and gmcs!!
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 4 жыл бұрын
Ram I know your watching, it's time bring out the cummins power wagon, we know ford and GM got nothing on it!
@impeccable1648
@impeccable1648 4 жыл бұрын
Yes nothing, oh except the Cummins baby 6 cylinder gas saver is a slow wet old dog!
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 4 жыл бұрын
@@impeccable1648 ya cus 400hp is slow yep
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you want a 1k+ lbs up front and no winch?There's a reason the Wagon isn't a diesel.
@1manarmyguzman629
@1manarmyguzman629 4 жыл бұрын
Fords new powerstroke is pushing more torque now than the cummins wym?
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 4 жыл бұрын
@@1manarmyguzman629 so and your point being? All have plenty enough
@Chris-ob8ok
@Chris-ob8ok 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Ram fan, but the power wagon has been and continues to be a major let down, specifically because they limited its capacity to less than their half ton and refuse to offer a diesel option.
@krisk5585
@krisk5585 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Like 1500lb payload if that? Ford rangers have like 2200lb payload caps.
@krover01
@krover01 4 жыл бұрын
At 9:13 you mention how 4 low keeps you from turning. I think you meant the lockers keep you from turning? Being in low range and in 4wd doesnt affect the steering. Only locking the differential does.
@mattg8116
@mattg8116 4 жыл бұрын
Both effect steering actually, but lockers are more significant. In a turn the front tracks longer than the rear and without a center diff it binds up and forces tire slip
@wirebrush
@wirebrush 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattg8116 that's true whether in 4hi or 4lo though
@lancetrujillo3155
@lancetrujillo3155 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison of apples and oranges
@fdjkvc
@fdjkvc 4 жыл бұрын
I have an AT4 1500. Its just a z71 with a factory 2in lift. You wouldn't compare a z71 to a power wagon would you? I wouldn't.... the power wagon is king ding-a-ling off road and has been for while. That being said, this is my favorite TFL channel. Keep 'em comin'
@fermincarrasco800
@fermincarrasco800 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Chevrolet Siverado ZRX vs Power Wagon should be a great review .
@amarqzm5082
@amarqzm5082 4 жыл бұрын
Fermin Carrasco the trail boss could do the same as the power wagon it’s just the gmc is just a towing truck
@tshearn624
@tshearn624 4 жыл бұрын
The trail boss is not even close to the PW.
@jessegamingtv2146
@jessegamingtv2146 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get chills when that crack happened??? 10:00
@shaneolsen9394
@shaneolsen9394 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be nice for the ram to have the cummins yes, but it really needs 35in tires from the factory its got the low gears to make them work I think it would really make a big difference
@Scorpion54092
@Scorpion54092 Күн бұрын
Power Wagon is literally a Heavy Duty Rubicon lol. This will be my next truck in a few months, wanted to get a Rubicon but for the price I may as well get a Power Wagon instead. Truck bed will come in handy at times, plus the 6.4L hemi sounds fantastic.
@user-dk8dy9nj7c
@user-dk8dy9nj7c 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a truck I don’t expect it to ride like a car by the way I test drove a Ram and a GMC I picked the GMC
@garyindi
@garyindi 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, plus a ford. You can bicker back and forth of GM vs Ford, but am I crazy or did the Ram just feel cheap? All of the plastics felt cheap and flimsy. Both the GMC and Ford felt way more sturdy.
@jimdiet8534
@jimdiet8534 4 жыл бұрын
@@garyindi Your crazy. The Ram does not feel cheap.
@garyindi
@garyindi 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Diet you must have gotten a keeper then. I’ve seen not one but two rams with 5k miles with the plastic window in front of the gauge cluster cracked. The 1500 I test drove I pushed it made a creaking sound. The GMC and the dodge didn’t do it.
@garyindi
@garyindi 4 жыл бұрын
GMC and ford* didn’t make the noise
@ripfletching
@ripfletching 4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys but we are all waiting for the trimmer by Ford with the 7.3 L
@Michael_ryan91
@Michael_ryan91 4 жыл бұрын
String trimmer?? Id go stihl.
@ripfletching
@ripfletching 4 жыл бұрын
camaro camaro ss lol 😂 thanks
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
I actually bought the new Milwaukee battery powered string trimmer with a 12.0AH battery and I love it. No more fouled carbs etc. Selling my old Stihl.
@Michael_ryan91
@Michael_ryan91 4 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 heard those are nice! When my echo dies ill prob go electric.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 4 жыл бұрын
saw surprising power and longevity with the big Milwaukee m18 battery. Also got the blower and hedge trimmer, chainsaw is next.
@user-er7gx5sm6g
@user-er7gx5sm6g 4 жыл бұрын
The battle continues for second place....
@bryanlewis8891
@bryanlewis8891 Жыл бұрын
Power Wagon all day every day. That PW is the spittin' image of mine.
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 4 жыл бұрын
The auto companies are getting crazy with the big wheels and front bumper overhang.
@brandedmcgowan9414
@brandedmcgowan9414 4 жыл бұрын
Particularly GM with all that plastic up front just make a one piece steel bumper for trucks the reason i miss my 98 z71
@nilsjohansson9739
@nilsjohansson9739 4 жыл бұрын
All the questions about why the PW doesn't have etc, etc...and then it completely destroys the competition. I guess we know why it doesn't have etc etc.. it doesn't need it.
@hairbarnes530
@hairbarnes530 4 жыл бұрын
Well other than a joyride pw is not even close to as good as that gmc truck. They should do a towing challenge. Lol I think why would know who would win that one
@nilsjohansson9739
@nilsjohansson9739 4 жыл бұрын
@@shitloveaduck So buy a Ram 2500, but don't bash a screwdriver because it's not a wrench. It's obviously a purpose built vehicle...to go off road.
@hairbarnes530
@hairbarnes530 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Perez “It would have no chance” well that is certainly your opinion, I think we can both agree we have a bias, which is ok. But a real “ideal” challenge would be the GMC Sierra2500/3500HD Against Dodge2500/3500HD that would be an interesting one. Btw I don’t know what you mean by “my feelings”
@hairbarnes530
@hairbarnes530 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Perez a good off-road challenge would be between the pw and the canyon
@nathanielnicolas658
@nathanielnicolas658 4 жыл бұрын
yall should do a 2500HD AT4 VS THE 6.7 FORS TREMOR
@eyeout
@eyeout 4 жыл бұрын
I got a ram 2500 Cummins with the off road package. Bilstein shocks with 17,000 towing.
@FlipCamFilms
@FlipCamFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Nice trucks!
@hvlfg0d
@hvlfg0d 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best trucks of the year as much as I love the ram I also love the new gmc.
@BJAMIAM1
@BJAMIAM1 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys expect to be making videos on the new 2021 Tahoe/Suburban come December 10th? supposedly that is the reveal date for the new models
@philipbianchi583
@philipbianchi583 4 жыл бұрын
GMC is such a nice looking truck they finally nailed it I have a 06" lbz duramax/6spd Allison
@11TGUN
@11TGUN 4 жыл бұрын
nailed the exterior... that I'll agree with. I absolutely love the exterior of the new GMC (minus maybe the new mirror design) I just wish they would have actually upgraded the interior vs. a tiny refresh. I love my 17' Silverado btw... not throwing shade.
@corbelius6
@corbelius6 4 жыл бұрын
3:39 Shout out to you Nathan!
@readyfactsready1132
@readyfactsready1132 4 жыл бұрын
Power Wagon
@NewtonWashinton
@NewtonWashinton 4 жыл бұрын
Good review guys, Really i think i would be happy with the Power Wagon and 35" tires.
@dantheman9395
@dantheman9395 4 жыл бұрын
Much better than the last one
@StevenKenniffALW
@StevenKenniffALW 2 жыл бұрын
Wind Noise was regrettable. But the video was still fun to watch
@S8BB
@S8BB 4 жыл бұрын
Power wagon beats the crap outta the gmc. If your serious about off-roading, power wagon all the way. If you do mild off roading and towing too, gmc might be the choice. I do think the tremor is gonna be a force to be reckoned with, tows and goes off road really well. Hopefully it finally pushes the Cummins into the PW.
@JustinKingOffroad
@JustinKingOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
we all know you had the Ford Tremor there too.... but we have to wait... hahaha!
@tomorender6479
@tomorender6479 4 жыл бұрын
Justin King should have at least shown it in motion.
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