Now this is what Wednesday mornings...every morning should be made of. TFL on the ol 'Tube and coffee in the hand. Thanks guys for this epic truck content!!!

You forgot to mention that with the older trucks you still have $50,000 in your pocket.

You forget how dangerous towing was back in the day. No power, no brakes, vague steering. It was physically and mentally exhausting hauling something heavy.

Those old IDI'S didn't have enough power to out run a fart but they were good for 700k miles

Do this test with 2000-2005 diesels vs new half tons.. I’d love to see a 6.0 power stroke go up against a new 5.0 f150

The sound of that Cummins sounded amazing. I’d take that over a modern Nissan not just any but every day!

Those diesels will still be on the road when that new truck is there age and in the junkyard...

0:52... this is EXACTLY the type of situation Land Rover's end up in... BEING TOWED.

Sorry, guys, I'm not sure what 0-60 does for us here-- wouldnt it be better to do like a 10 mile run on flat and compare fuel cost, and then go from golden to idaho springs and back and look at speeds and fuel cost?

This reminds me of Back to the Future 3 when Doc is trying to get the train up up 88mph :D

The oversize tires on the older rigs aren't helping their wheel torque numbers.

A 2000 7.3 powerstroke would be the perfect comparison between decent tech, durability, nice ride , power, and easy to fix .

I'll take that Cummins. Hard to find any cleanish 12 valves in Wisconsin

Those diesel's aren't about how fast they tow, but for how long and how far.... a 1 up on gasoline engines.

Andre always sounds like he is on re-entry from a space mission trying to get up to speed.

Really enjoyed this video. I have an 89 ford f350 7.3idi. My wife named it Grease Lightening since I run biodiesel in it. Fun to see the different generations of tech stack up. The 7.3idi is definitely not fast, but it's reliable and there are so many still on the road today. Thanks for putting out good content. Fun to watch your videos.

I hate being so critical, but I do have to say that those 6.9 Tri star International V8 in the Fords would not do well when running near the red line. Power band is from 2-3 thousand RPM. You start to float the valves and loos power at 4K rpm.

Great video but not surprising. The horsepower ratings and torque ratings on them old diesels are embarrassing low compared to today's standard.

Fun idea would be to post the vehicle's factory power ratings on the screen during the video.

The Ford has bigger tires but no regearing. Not good for towing.

So now you need to do a diesel from the 2000's and the 2010's. I would also like to see the "Super Tremor" do this test.

Gunsmoke is the best truck there! Love the old Fords, slap a turbo on it and you're set.

Towing isn't about speed it's about how much weight you can move

Cool video! Only one complaint, I wish it had been possible to use old trucks with factory wheel/tire sizes and ride height. But I understand you can only test what you have access to!

Coffee doesnt go down the same without TFL on the brain .. 😍 TFL mornings

Great video, awesome content! Cool trucks featured. Hope to see more old vs. new comparisons!

It is interesting how we are doing a test with a turbocharged and non-turbocharged diesel at appoximately 6000 ft above sea level. It is more obvious to me how this result was going to be before I even started watching the video. I am not even factoring in the ambient temperature. Lots of drama from Andre!

Heres an idea, let us the audience provide the old trucks and you TFL can provide the newer trucks. Title: how does a old modified diesel compare to the newer trucks?

Put a lift and some over sized tires on the titan to make them more similar. When the older truck was new and unmodified it would have been "better" than they did for this. Not saying they would beat the titan, but depending on how it is lifted and tires makes a big difference in towing. Glad Amdre had no major issues with the test. Stay safe and healthy!

The idi have a fuel cut off switch that’s gradual just put it in four gear and you will get more hp and tq but red lining a diesel will get u less hp bec it cuts fuel

I'm positive my '16 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 gasser will out-tow my '93 Chevy 2500 6.5 turbo diesel.

That's the most that Land Rover will ever be reliable! 😭

The mountain experience is going to be interesting. When I was young, I offered to help a friend bring 4 stallions (full grown male horses) to the auction. He was riding a Range Rover V8 (series one !!) with 2 stallions in the trailer and I was driving an old Landrover Defender diesel.... In Germany there is a steep Highway mountain around a city called Wuppertal. The range rover pulled the trailer at ease with 60 miles out of the "tal" up the mountain. My Landrover was struggling. Maximum speed 10 miles an hour in first gear, that was the max... :)

Oh I was really rooting for Gunsmoke and she didn't disappoint, she just hauled ass, but Kase's Ram was awesome. Take nothing away from the Titan, it was on a different plane, but that Cummins just dug in, she hummed and hissed and hauled. She even rolled some coal. Honours to the Ram Hummin Cummins for getting the job done with style and smooth Big Truck straight 6 turbo. Smirnov was even double clutching. Though with them heavy guns hanging from his new Ike t shirt, he should be the only one to drive Gunsmoke.

This is getting good again. I am about to purchase a Nissan Titan on clearance before the 2021s come in. It's great that you are looking relaxed and fun. Keep the excitement coming.

The Titan braking is even more impressive than it's speed. I would take that Titan over any half ton for it's sheer confidence while towing and braking under load.

Very cool video! Thanks for another video and being so honest with everything.

It would be interesting to see how much faster the IDI could be if it got a new set of of injectors and injector pump.

You should test a modern midsize vs a 90's half ton.

Yes new truck faster but will it last as long as the older trucks? My pathfinder cost a lot to maintain. I got rid of it because of that. I bet these old trucks with maintenance has cost less then what the new one does.

Turning and earning in that tandem trailer, with the old iron...and I’ve got, a spare $60k in savings, to show for it. The new trucks, are killer; but so are, the prices! 😵

As an example New suburban: around 50k - 70k give or take A 1996 Suburban 2500 costed me 3500 dollars Yeah

Back in 89 the big block 460 would have done better than the Diesel.

Those older diesel trucks were not built for 0-60 times. What is their time unloaded?

Fast forward 30 years... wonder if that Nissan still tows anything.

Loved seeing those 2 old school diesels more than the nissan towing. Thank you for a great video.

I’d still take that old Ford over the other two. That truck will never not look good,lol!!

The Ford and the Dodge are 26 and 31 years old and still doing it. The bigger question is how well will that Nissan be towing trailers in a couple of decades . I have a 95 Dodge Ram W2500 and a 97 Ford F-250 4×4 and don't plan on replacing either in the next 10 years .

GreaT comparison... I'd like to see the your SUV fleet included in this - including the Touareg etc 👍

My dad has a 98.5 12V cummins. He absolutely loves it. All it has is a cold air intake triple disc converter and a fuel plate with 20 degrees timing. Just went to Alaska and back from Michigan. He said when he hits a mountain it just goes no downshifting with conveter locked. He had multiple people stop and ask what he has done to the truck because he blows everyone away in the mountains. One of the fellas was in a brand new F450. He said he loves all the attention his old truck gets and he never wants to get rid of it. 👍

"They don't make them like they used to." You're right. They make them way better.

Slowing down on that Ford sounded like when a aircraft slowing down a runway jaja that Ram sounds sick 🤠

If the 7.3idi had a banks kit on it she would have been right around the Cummins. It would be sweet to watch 7.3 turbo vs 12v Cummins and 6.5 Detroit. Or 350 vs 351 and 360

Goes to show how good modern half tons are, when an underdog Japanese truck that has barely 1% market share can perform so well at a mile up with near max load.

what truck should i buy for the first truck i will own. looking at new 2020. test drove ranger. should i go with that or go bigger? what others should i consider?

Not really a half ton. The xd falls somewhere between half and three quarters. If it was a regular titan it would be a true half ton and not as good at towing.

Great idea for a show. Thanks!

Fun video. Andre took his life in his hands with gunsmoke pulling 🙈. Nicely done

I was in Grade 11 in 94'...great video... thanks Roman and Andre☺

I thought the XDs were a bit more than a half ton,

Still have a '90 F350 diesel with >300k miles that would definitely outpull the F350 you have. I'm guessing you should take that 89 to a diesel tech to have it adjusted. The same could probably be said for the Cummins, it shouldn't be putting out that much smoke, even in that era.

Awesome video- great demonstration of just how much improvement has been made in modern trucks. Makes you wonder what towing will be like in 20 more years?

I'm curious about a towing fuel mileage run on these. Not so much to see what the Nissan would average but to see how bad the other two are.

I like how you guys still put out a video when you have absolutely nothing going on lol. You guys were hilarious in this video, keep that same humor and informative nature in all your content! Btw, I'd still take that proper inline 6 semi 12v Cummins over all of them, gunsmoke!

Now this was a kick ass episode!

Great stuff!

Gun smoke needs a ATS 093 turbo kit to give it a fighting chance against the others. Or a R&D kit will make it MOVE

i used to have an old f250 with the 351 v8. i love the look of those old fords. to bad mine ended up being a money pit in terms of electrical issues

Awesome video, I have an older 1990 silverado and always wondered what the difference is in towing new and old.

My stock late model 1/2 ton out pulls all of my previous 3/4 tons (mix of chevy and ford dating back to the mid 80's) from a torque perspective. I did make sure to get a heavy duty trailering package and hill descent control (transmission control reminds of an engine brake) in this 1/2 ton. I did have to put air shocks on the 1/2 ton to level it out with heavy trailers or loads. Other than that, the 1/2 ton outperforms them all.

Good video guys

I used to tow all over the west with 90-94 Dodge Cummins with a manual. This brought back memories

Whew!! We are so spoiled with our modern vehicles! I threw 8500lbs behind my frontier (for like 12 miles) and I can testify, it did fine. No issues. Threw the same 8500lbs behind an 85 k1500 and I thought something was wrong with the trailer breaks or something. Completely different experience!

As always another good video gentlemen. It would be the Dodge for me.

I thought Andre owned a 2005ish Chevrolet Diesel 2500. That would have been a good one to have in the mix!

This channel is free to use my 1997 F250 Powerstroke 7.3 for any testing. I live in West Virginia. It will give any new truck a run for the money. I can tow anything, I get 18 mpg average, it is easy to fix and maintain...and I have 50 grand in my pocket.

Grandpa pulled a big 5th wheel camper with a F250 with the 300 six cylinder gas motor even in the Rocky Mountains. It's all about how fast you want to go.

Did that semi on the interstate do a rev match downshift at 10:13 ? 😂

The Titan is a great truck

Back in the day, our first diesel ambulance was non-turbo. It was pretty descent 0 to 45 but was an absolute dog after that. We would be running red lights and siren out on the highway and be impeding the flow of traffic. Can't remember for sure but I think it was a Ford E-350 chassis. Really don't miss those good ol days.

Of course the new pickup is going to win. That 7.3 was what? 160 hp and 440 lb/ft? And that Cummins was 160 hp and 460 lb/ft.

Love the sound of the turbo in the cummins

Loving my '20 titan!

Now I'm curious about a 0-60 test on a modern diesel truck vs gas! Wouldn't mind seeing a 3.92 rear end 5.7 Hemi test in the same manner! This opens up a world of possibilities!

Ok my guesses at times stunk! Great video guys

Interesting but towing prowess is a lot more than 0-60. I’d like to see a series of these testing multiple aspects of towing with the different years

This was honestly so $&@! Cool! Great video this is why TFL is Stellar!

Back when that Ford was new, pretty much all speed limits where only 55.

I'm still taking the old diesel, the won't get there fast but the weight will tow much nicer. Also the simplicity and reliablity are huge for me.

Not surprised on this one. Parked my 88 gmc 3500 next to a new crew cab f159. They are almost the same size (save for my dual rear wheels)

Wow that shifting looked like you were sunday crusing lol

What would be really interesting would be to see a F150 with the 3.5 high output with all the options to tow. Like short cab, long bed the right gears, every tow related package and RWD.

I knew before i clicked they werent going to put shit for weight behind these trucks. My stock 2nd gen cummins can see 20k in trailer weight and tow it easy as pie.

Note to Andre, those old fords make all their power under 3,000 RPM so shift higher as you increase speed. Also to note, I have a 1990 F-250 towed 8,000 LBS at 50 fairly easily.

I love the sound of the exhaust of the white pickup

fun! thanks

Awesome video as always. This video seems like the perfect place to ask you guys and the viewers a towing question I've got. I have a 2017 F150 crew cab 4wd with the 3.5 ecoboost (second generation) and ten speed auto. It has the max tow package with 3.55 gears, 36 gallon tank, beefed up cooling and integrated trailer brake controller. I have a 2007 Jeep wrangler unlimited Rubicon (big heavy, four door with lots of extra steel in skids, bumpers, rock sliders, winch) that goes around 5,400 lbs empty. I'm getting an 18-20' beaver tail trailer with slide out ramps (10,000lb gvwr trailer). So trailer and Jeep weight with tools, spare parts and everything is going to be in the 8,500 lb neighborhood. I know the truck can pull that weight with ease and that's not my question. What I'd like opinions on is should I/do I need a weight distributing hitch or even a WD hitch with sway control setup?? I noticed on this test they were pulling the weight I'm looking at with just a basic heavy duty gen Y hitch and it seemed fine. Granted they were only towing just down the street and topped out at 60 and I'll probably be up around 70. I'm planning on towing it locally but I also plan on making the 1,900 mile trek from central PA to Moab Utah to wheel. Thank you for any help and advice. I'd rather not have to buy a $350++ WD hitch setup if I don't have to. I am going to be going with a nice hitch like a gen Y though if I can get away with just a regular hitch setup.

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I've been wanting a review similar to this,does a new midsize out tow a old half ton and i was thinking maybe comparing a GMT800 4.8 to a 3.5 tacoma

I pulled a 27 foot 5 wheel travel trailer with a 1991 Ford 7.5 gas Truck up a 7% grade at 55mph