17:18 😭😭😭😭 I always proof all of my videos before uploading and this somehow escaped my eye. Just disregard the out of frame clip here lmaooo

When Rory says “he was mine first!” And “he took the ring off.” That was the nail in the coffin for me.

When she didn’t get the journalist job and blamed it on her BOYFRIEND’S FATHER rather than taking all the notes that were given to her and grow… One of the biggest reasons I believe Rory had a downhill was her stubbornness and how unwilling she is to adapt to the environment and situations surrounding her.

I wish every time I messed up someone would pay for me to go on a trip around Europe. That would certainly sort me out.

i remember watching rory COMPLAIN about being “shipped off to Europe” and being enraged. the entitlement just wow

Rory is the embodiment of Peaked In Highschool

Thank you for mentioning the kissing Jess part. In the great scheme of things it was minor compared to later events, but it really was the start of her wanting to have her cake and eat it too. I also hated that she had the nerve to decide to stay with Dean at that point and then act upset that Jess was with Shane.

Lindsay’s mom is the MVP because nothing she sad was wrong and it’s exactly what Rory deserved. Rory is so selfish and entitled and it’s such a shame considering how hard working, kind and focused she was at the start. Rory thinks everyone and everything is hers for the taking.

Honestly I love the encounter with the Gilmore girls and Lindsay's mom bc honestly Lindsay's mom is kinda right and honest and what Rory deserved (in my opinion). I feel like the only thing better is if Lindsay said something like that

For me I started to question Rory's behaviour when she started to ignore Lane. So it was pretty early on. When she kept focussing on Dean and her mom rather than hanging out & talking with Lane. Even when Lane confronts her about it, saying she needed to talk to Rory but she wasn't there for her - Rory apologizes but then proceeded to ignore Lane through most of the series. And of course Rory just got more selfish as the series went on. In the revival I felt horrible for Paul, they were together 2 years before that point and by the end of the revival it was 3 years. She strung that guy along for 3 years! Any likeable feelings for Rory went away at that point. That's just cruel. And I know the show tried to make it funny but that's just not funny at all. Not to mention the cheating

It drives me crazy that they have Rory say that her mom slept with her dad when he was engaged to Sherry. She slept with him the night before Sookie's wedding . He and Sherry were taking time apart due to things not going very well. He goes back to her after finding out about the pregnancy.

The way lorelai treated rory as the victim once she cooled down angered me so much. I felt so sorry for lindsay

Lorelei telling Rory that her letter was a good letter despite it saying that she didn’t regret what happened and that what she did hurt someone completely for no reason was still SPECIAL really upset me. It ruined the impact of all her anger about it

Seeing the two moms fight while their daughters just stand their looks off put, it made it seems like the girls were 14 not 19. Just goes to show they were all too young for a life long commitment like marriage.

I AGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SAID "She stopped being Rory after she kissed Jess, while still being with Dean".

Lorelai's poor parenting angers me even more than Rory's behaviour. when dean cheated on Lindsay with Rory, the blame was very much centred around dean and his bad influence when Rory consented to the sex and played a big part in the affair as well. again when she steals the boat, Lorelai directs the accusations and blame towards Logan when Rory is the one who came up with the idea and basically coerced Logan into joining her. She is never properly held accountable by others, its no wonder she believes she can get away with anything and that everything is already within her reach without her having to put much effort in.

I think the look Jess gave her in the end was a mixture of love and pity, not just infatuation

It’s really noticeable how throughout the course of Gilmore girls, you see that there are so many secondary love interests, like Lindsay, Shane, Odette for Rory’s three love interests and even Sherry, that got tossed aside by the men they are seeing in the show the second those men gets a chance to be with the Gilmore girls.

Boy I wish we all had the privilege of being shipped to Europe when we disappoint our parents.😂

Okay side note: I really respect Logan for cutting off Rory's expectations. 'You don't want to marry me? Cool no problem, but I'm done being in a relationship with you.' While SHE is still seeing him as her boyfriend, when he is NOT. AND what if Logan and his super wealthy, stunning, 100x smart than Rory fiancé knows about it and she and Logan got an understanding? Logan has ALWAYS been upfront about his relationships no matter how casual they are, fiancé knows and probably has a hottie for herself too, plus I bet how Logan talks about Rory isn't the same how he talks TO her. 'She just my college girlfriend, we bang every once in a while...' Cool babe, kiss.

Gotta say, Looove how Lindasy´s mom put them in their places... I take a bow!!

Rory deserved Lindsey’s mom’s speech lmao

actually i started seeing her as selfish and hyped for being good when she was with dean and avoiding him to meet jess making dean feel horrible for thinking that she was into jess treating jess so well while making dean feel like he is the one in the wrong all the while jess acting entitled to be disrespectful to dean and getting way too close to his girlfriend. from that moment she showed her true color i remember my friend thinking she and jess were cute and im the one missing the picture it just frustrated me how people decided to be blind to the hurt and disrespect she caused dean. i also dislike dean for breaking his marriage for her after how she treated him.

Lindsay's mother was the protagonist in that argument haha. No contest. Good for her.

The whole affair situation was a mess but I'm glad she found that letter. Chances are he might've kept quiet about it since Rory let him go and she wasn't an option anymore. She deserved to know the truth.

This is when Rory's character began to change. Everyone wants to blame Logan for who Rory became but Rory was already who she was when she met Logan and she just became more Rory than we knew.

I completely agree with you that that scene is where the downfall of rory started. Especially since she doesn't acknowledge that sleeping with was wrong and that her mother was correct in was she was saying

One of my biggest problems with Rory is how EVERY guy she dates...or is friends with..becomes hung up on her. Dean, Jess, that guy at Yale she was friends with before Logan, then Logan....not one of them ever "gets over her" to the detriment of their own lives and future relationships, like she can do no wrong. This kind of character writing is what makes the show cringey, because despite all of her mistakes, entitlement behaviors, and lies, she's still seen as this golden calf to these guys. But, the same could be said for Lorelei.

The moment that honestly did it for me was even earlier. I know she was young when it happened but her blatant fixation on Jess was really disrespectful to Dean, like right in front of his face. I know dean wasn’t perfect, but honestly he was just too infatuated with her and behaved hurt because he gave her all of his attention and she never returned it fully. In that moment I knew she was just very selfish. It isn’t the fact that she was attracted to another person, but that she did no effort to ease the transition. She cheated on Dean when she kissed Jess at Suki’s wedding. Then went back to someone who she knew she had power over.

Thank you for making this video essay, I loved listening to you laying out the events of the cheating! Honestly, I also kinda hate how Rory blatantly misrepresented the facts of Chris and Lorelai cheating; him and Sherry weren’t engaged yet, and he didn’t know she was pregnant when they slept together. Rory twisting these ‘facts’ in her favour during the fight with Lorelai cements Rory’s bratty behaviour. She wants to be a JOURNALIST and twists facts in her favour? She’ll fit in perfectly. 😅

I never thought she was gifted, Sheldon copper is gifted; she is just smarter than the people in the room.

in my opinion her downfall started in s2ep9, when tristan and her were doing the romeo and juliet play, and their kiss was still hanging in the air. she got away with not telling dean with absolutely no consequences. therefore started her mindset that “oh, i can get away with things!”

After my Mom died in 2014, I was in so much grief that I only watched/rewatched all 7 seasons over and over. It was my comfort show too. I can't watch it now but I am glad that so many younger people appreciate the show

Rory is the classic big fish is a small pond. She's not that intelligent, she's maladjusted, entitled, incompetent, and a liar. The way Rory treated Dean when she was interested in Jess told me everything about her. Rory wants everything for herself at the expense of everyone around her. The fact that Lorelei tells everyone that Rory doesn't ever lie put Lorelei's blindness up and center. When watching the show as a child, I didn't really get why Chris was Rory's father, but as the show progressed it made perfect sense. Chris wanted to have Sherry and Lorelei and was actively trying to talk Lorelei into staying with him when his girlfriend was pregnant. Rory does the same thing with Logan.

I feel like Lorelei definitely started seeing the cracks in her outlook of Rory, as someone who could do no wrong, right around when she started noticing how Rory kept inadvertently hurting Dean by constantly toeing the line between being friends and more-than-friends with Jess. At the end of the day, Lorelei knew that first loves don't always last forever and she understood that was a possibility with Rory and Dean, and that Rory might eventually move on to someone new. But I think she was really sort of bemused when Rory kept hanging out with Jess and blowing Dean off, because the right thing for somebody to do in a relationship who's getting pursued by someone else would be to tell that someone else to back off, right? But Rory wasn't doing that, and she kept hurting Dean by NOT doing that and dragging her thing with Jess out, and Lorelei was visibly torn on multiple occasions as to whether or not she should intervene and stick up for the person being hurt by the situation, Dean, even if that meant her own daughter was the 'bad guy' of the situation. I mean, one of the scenes I remember most vividly from the show is Lorelei coming home to see Dean sitting on the porch, essentially defeated, and him saying "she likes Jess, doesn't she?" even though he doesn't really need a confirmation. And you can just see how much Lorelei pities him in that moment, because she really likes Dean and doesn't want to see him hurt, but the person who is hurting him, is Rory.

"I set one crappy example for you" meanwhile she never holds rory accountable even when she's plainly stating " I did it" for example the car accident with Jess. She tells her in one way or another "even when you do wrong you do know wrong" then is shocked that rory doesn't understand she did wrong.

I really like listening to you. Your voice is so calm and even and you remain so collected while you are talking about the character

I really enjoyed hearing your point of view on this and I agree with everything you said. For me Rory's complete downfall happened when she continued sleeping with Dean after she saw how much she had hurt Lindsay. Rory's a really smart girl which is why I believe she should have been held a lot more accountable by people in her life because she completely understood how bad the things she did were but acted like she didn't.

Lindsey’s mom is the true hero of this show. 🤘🏼

I absolutely loved this video! Thank you for this beautiful commentary.

thank you for sharing! ❤️

What bothers me about the Europe thing is that Lorelai is apparently the one who suggests to Emily that rory should go then seems hurt when Rory wants to go 💁🏽‍♀️

THEY WERE ON A BREAK!😂 Seriously though for me a break is a break-up unless the other person defines it as both of us will not see other people. My ego is kinda fragile when in love, so I take a break as a “I wanna see if I’ll be happier if I break up with” and kind of begin getting ready to be dumped🥺😭 Let’s be honest if she got with Jess now and then ran into Logan somewhere she’d cheat on him.

1)deans trash 2) Rory’s is dead wrong for that letter 3) Lorelei should’ve never defended Rory for that situation that’s why she thinks she didn’t do anything wrong

Really interesting commentary. I never thought of the turnaround w/ Logan. Thank you for sharing :-)

Watching as an adult made me realize Rory sucks, makes the worst decisions just like her momma

I love your Gilmore girls content keep it up!

Nicely done. Great analysis.

I was actually happy that the letter was found bc Lindsay deserved to know but i do wish rory had a harder "punishment" than just feeling remorse and being yelled at in the square.

I completely agree with every single word you said here. When I was in my upper-twenties I dated a girl who loved Gilmore Girls. I watched it with her, including the Netflix revival. I was distressed that my girlfriend and her sister seemed to be "Team Lorelai" and "Team Rory" no matter what happened. Lorelai abandons her wedding with Max Medina and offers no communication to him about her feelings? That's fine. Rory cheats on Dean with Jess? That's fine. Lorelai sleeps with a man who is engaged? That's fine. Rory serially cheats on Paul for an entire year instead of just ending things? That's fine. Lorelai and Rory are hedonists; whatever feels good or validating, just do it. Rory in particular is vile: she appears to have no genuine remorse for hurting others, instead merely having a regret because of the complications her sins have caused her.

Just dropping by to say your voice is so calming.

You did an excellent job.

You've got such a calming voice, oh my goodness. Subscribed and looking forward to more commentary vids! Also you have great taste in anime #theonepieceisreal 😤

I mean lorelie's love life does serve as the ultimate example for rory. Time and time again the parents are the real example by which most kids live their lives, separated parents, unfaithful marriage, a parent who's not in the picture, all these things and more factor into the way the child thinks and acts later into life. Rory for all her privileges lacked a stable parental guide, her mother went through relationships left and right, her father wasn't in the picture most of the time and wasn't the best example of a good man, and her grandparents bicker most of the time. There was not a set example of a healthy stable relationship in her life to show her what it looks like and how it happens and works. Now I'm not neglecting her responsibility, there is an age of accountability, but this is a build up of bad parenting on the grandparents' part, bad parenting of loreli's part (making a bad choice and having a child too young to know how to raise her right), and rory basing her choices really on how she sees her mother function in relationships. This is a testament to how important it is to have a stable, happy, & healthy marriage if for nothing else than for your kids to have a good example for their own relationships.

I’ve just found your channel through this video and I really enjoyed it! I have such an internal conflict about Rory - I both love her and I hate her. Gilmore Girls is definitely my comfort program. You should do another video on the revival and how both Rory & Lorelai haven’t really grown in the years - Rory is Logan’s mistress while been with Paul, Lorelai and Rory fat shaming at the pool, Lorelai and Luke still having a lack of communication in their relationship. I think Emily evolved for the better though from the original series to the revival Unrelated but I love your tattoos

Omg this video make me realize how many horrible life decisions she makes out of a sense of entitlement

you got me, I have to watch the serie again

So we were all rewatching gilmore girls about two weeks ago? My people fr

I really like this video, because it is possible to see Rory for who she really is without "hating" the character. She isn't the golden child. She is as human as everyone else is. What is actually sad is, that she doesn't grow. She's 32 in the revival and she's the same person. Not only is she the other woman again, she thinks it's okay. And why does she? Because she was never really held accountable for her actions. She made a mistake and everyone just shove it aside, because it was never Rory's fault. Dean getting clingy and possessive? Dean's fault. It wasn't like she was ignoring and lying to him just to be with Jess. Crashing the car. Wasn't her fault, right? It was Jess who drove the car, so it's clearly his fault - even if he gave her the choice and SHE made the choice to keep driving. Stealing the yacht - was Logan's fault. Absolutely. I can see that. *sarcasm intensifies* I'm honest: I don't like the person Rory becomes when she's with Logan. But she'S her own person, right? Everyone is always saying how smart she is. But as soon as there is any kind of trouble, no one seems to think that she has a brain and can think for herself. And seeing the Revival, it is almost as if she can't. But we have to acknowledge, that it isn't all Rory's fault. Lorelai was her role model after all, and she wasn't giving the best example. She dragged Christoper and Luke along the whole time. Jumping from one to the other. Jumping from man to man because she couldn't make up her mind. Max or Luke? Alex or Max? Or maybe a little Christopher in between?! All of this aside: I think that's why we love it. They are human. Making mistakes, fighting, forgiving, making up, and after everything is said and done, they still love each other. That's the beauty and the problem. Jess, for example. As you just said: Rory doesn't deserve the eyes he's giving her, and I will never forgive the writers for making him this pining idiot - still hung up on her, when all he should be doing is giving her the cold shoulder, after how she treated him, and how much blame he took for the downfall of their relationship - when it was both of them. The show pictures that even after you fuck up big time, there's always a way back - but that's not the case. Sometimes there isn't a way back. That should've been the case with Jess and Rory. Rory and Christopher. Christopher and Lorelai. I mean...Excuse me? She sends him a mail that she's getting married? It's none of his business. It's just love to hate, and hate that we love it...

Great video. Rory's a cheater and she has no personal grit. Very disappointing when she started off as such a sweet and strong kid.

Great points. This is where I stopped watching the show as it aired. It’s also a comfort show for me and I’ve since seen the series several times through. I also can’t believe she brings Lorelei into the argument r/t Christopher. What I remember is Christopher telling Lorelei him and Sherry were done, and he didn’t know she was pregnant.

I didn't feel the same way during that scene when Lorelai gets home right after Rory and Dean slept together... When I watched that I felt bad for Rory because I saw a young girl who seemed to have just gotten completely manipulated by her married ex. Like she literally lost her virginity to a married man of course she knows how bad that is but because it's Dean, it's comfort, it's all she knows of long term, loving relationships, she's trying to justify it in her head. So when her mom comes along and brings down the reality hammer, it makes her cognitive dissonance about what's just happened even WORSE, and thus, of course she's going to be upset and defensive. It can be really hard to come to terms with how someone who makes you feel that safe and comfortable can also be someone who lies about it being over with his wife and cheating on her without Rory even being fully aware that it was like that. I still have to finish GG but I started rewatching it from the beginning a couple months ago. It's like watching it for the first time though for me because as a child when I saw episodes here and there on TV my only interest were the cute boys that Rory dated and any time "old people" were on screen I would lose interest haha

When she started accepting money from her grandparents is when she became a person who might be a lost cause.

I think people forget how young Rory is for the majority of the show. You make mistakes and wrong decisions when you're young, that's how you learn

I don’t like violence but Rory probably never changed for the simple fact that Lindsay didn’t touch her

I think it was good to send her to Europe. She cooled down, she couldn’t mess up things with Dean (well not until the letter) more than she did while home, and she gained perspective. She spent time with Emily (could be good or bad thing). Change of scenery can be a good thing. Maybe not to the other continent necessarily but just go away and have time to process..

The first time I saw this scene, I turned to look at my mom and went, "How does one borrow that?"

The KZfaq algorithm has me figured out. Just finished my first watch-through of Gilmore Girls. Rory is SOOOO problematic. Honestly, it’s what happen when you grow up with no real consequences.

I’ve known narcissistic, arrogant, coddled, spoiled girls like Rory and the cheating, especially with married or taken men, is definitely a theme. They really think they’re such perfect wonderful little princesses that they HAVE to have what they want the second they want it. They have to have the taken man, they have to be the more desirable, better woman. It’s essentially a form of throwing a tantrum, and nothing sends them into a downward spiral faster than being rejected or being cheated on themselves. Because how could it happen to THEM? They are so special and perfect and everyone loves them so much, that even men who are already married want them first. That’s also why attempting to talk sense into them never works either. They’re perfect, so why would they listen when you tell them they’re wrong? It’s a sad thing, but girls like that have to be humiliated and have to be hurt to finally see sense and grow up.

Idk why Lindsay's mom is so pissed at Rory when she should be pissed at her daughters husband. Like Rory doesn't owe anything to them but Lindsay's husband does and yet they're more pissed at Rory than Dean??

Well done. Thanks.

Yesssss. New sub. It threw me into a GAAAAHHHH love/hate relationship with Rory in that episode

i've watched this show so many times and i still cry whenever Loralie and Luke break up

See the trick is if u grew up worried over money for whatever reason, rory was always the villan

As an OG watcher (not really a flex- am old. Lol XD) who watched the series in real time, and saw the steady decline of the mythos of Rory, I was initially pleased by her bad choices- including the kissing of Jess while she was with Dean. I like when a character evolves, including if that means shaking off a "good girl, perfect" image (in quotes because, let's face it, no such thing as perfect). But where I started to get off the train was when she STOPPED evolving. Other characters had up and down arcs that were wonderful- Paris is a perfect example. That girl hopped on and off the villain train like a pro, because although her mannerisms were anything but realistic, she herself as a character WAS. She took circumstances and reacted to them, grew from them... and sometimes made mistakes because of them. You saw her evolve. Rory didn't have that same journey. I think you hit the nail on the head as to why so many people had a bit of a sour taste in their mouth after their revival- they didn't see their girl get that final arc she needed; she'd just dug her heels in and never grew.

yeah, what she did in season 4 and 5 with dean and logan and her decisions on her dropping out of yale is when I started to get made at her and not even bother to care how she changes since she irritated me in so many ways and it only gets worse when the revival happened.

I hate Rory in the reboot bc she is full time villain. I mean, not remembering her boyfriend…that’s cruel, but also sleeping with a married man (again), and thinking she’s owed a job smh. In the show she’s a villain many times. From fat shaming/bullying a dancer to cheating to egging a guy’s car with her mom (idc. That’s rude). Idk, when u look at the stats, she is not a good person

Thanks for the vid! Great analysis. Not defending Rory about the summer in Europe but her initial reaction might have been because she wouldn’t get to continue her relationship with Dean if she wanted to. But she really to clear her head. Do the distance was good.

What's even more hilarious is how Rory scolded Paris for cheating on her bf, then not only did even worse months later but also did the exact same thing Paris did 😅😅

After Lorelei picked up Rory from the police station, it was an opportunity for Lorelei to be the ultimate mother. But she totally folds when Rory can't believe she stole a boat and briefly self-chastises herself. Lorelei could have reinforced the mistake and articulate her deep disappointment and to emphasize that that's not how she raised Rory and how Rory is behaving like a rich kid. But she didn't and, in a way, it gave Rory permission to make mistake and not feel too badly about it.

I don't think that this is the actual moment where her downfall began. Everything that happend with Jess wasn't better at all. She played with both boys. And she finally decided to dump Dean for Jess. I think the first moment where she noticed she can do things like that and doesn't have to deal with consequences is when she kissed Tristan (nothing wrong with that. Dean broke up with her) and she decided to hide it from Dean. She could've told him. But she decided to lie and to manipulate instead. She decided to actively hide an incident that took place when she was single and make it a cheating. And everything that happend with Jess was based on the day Tristan and Dean met after the incident and she told Tristan specifically not to tell Dean.

I feel like Amy Sherman- Palladino made it her mission to sabotage Rory. I always got vibes that she didn't really like Alexis.

lorelai wanted to be her daughters friend more then a mother I think she wanted to live through rory the life she didn't get because she had her so young and it backfired rory isn't lorelai as much as lorelai would like her to be and would get controlling when rory would show rebellious behavior but them wouldn't hold rory accountable for anything she has a lot of similar traits as Emily and that's why rory is very entitled because she never was held accountable by anyone in her family really everyone around her wanted her to be lorelai basically and be perfect and rory broke because of the high expectations she never could live up too also she was Christopher daughter too so she did get some of his traits

After seeing the show entirely, when I go back its pretty clear this character flaw is being set up from the very beginning with the dynamic of her relationship with Lane when Rory starts crushing on Dean.

i *LOVE* your fight club shirt!! Where dd you get it?!

I think the problem lies in Lorelais "parenting". The more i watch Rory the more i believe she never had set bounderies by any others than her. I think Lorelai got lucky that Rorys self set boundaries had aligned with social standards and being affirmed by everyone around her that she is doing right. Hence when Lorelai kind of makes clear that Rory crosses boundaries and implies negative consequences of course there is push back. Problem is that rory never feels any real consequences to her actions. Without consequences, there is no learning. In her mind she never did anything wrong, because she set the parameter of acceptable behaviour herself and no one really says anything against it.

In this instance Rory and Dean were perfect for eachother

I know we cant talk about it....but I absolutley LOVE your shirt.

I say this a lot, and people think I'm somehow defending Rory's actions, but I actually love what they did with her character. With that I mean, I love her from a character writing point of view, not that I think she is a wonderful person. Rory is a perfect mirror to someone like me, a white woman that grew up with stability in a society that has a white woman's back most of the time. It is hard to recognize your own privilege, and it feels discrediting when you have made your effort and others tell you that you probably had it easier than most people, and like Rory, we often miss that we had stuff handed to us at times, because there was a small struggle that we managed to see as something bigger than it really was. The way in which it hurts to see Rory is healthy, because it challenges us to look at ourselves and question if we have maybe acted that way or we threw a tantrum for not being handed things we up until that point have taken for granted. We really need to learn and heal from this and not just label everyone that makes us upset a narcissist. Rory is ignorant, not narcissistic. She is not lacking in empathy, she is just used to her emotions being more important to the world than the emotions of other people, and I love how we have this beautiful and smart woman, and see that beauty and intellect doesn't make perfect people. It can in some cases even make a nasty person.

Rory treated Dean like trash the first time they were together and that cycle didn't get any better. Yes, he was manipulative and borderline emotionally abusive, but she should've been honest with him about Jess from the beginning. But that set the pattern for her relationships with men and it never got better, and I think she DID pick it up from how her mom treated Max, Luke, even Chris as kind of disposable the minute things got hard. Neither of them were great at accepting responsibility, though Lorelei was obviously slightly more grounded than Rory. But I'll never forget Rory crying to Lane at the end of season seven when she's having trouble finding a job about the worry and pressures everyone, including the town, placed on her. It was an impossible standard for anyone to reach, really. But in the Revival, that Rory honestly pissed me off to no end. Showing up to that interview unprepared? Forgetting she had a boyfriend even when he WAS IN HER HOUSE? Whining about how much the industry changed? And as someone who works in journalism, I can vouch that it has definitely changed. I'm a video editor, but there's very few single position jobs anymore. They expect you to be multi media journalists to cut costs because everything's digital. The show didn't really do a good job of showing just how much journalism changed, imo. It hinted at it, but only vaguely. And talked down so much about digital journalism when it was kind of at its height, which would've been a big reason why she probably wasn't getting hired if that was her attitude going into interviews. Sorry for the rant, the show hits a little close to home lol. But even in the end, she still had a career and a huge mansion handed to her on a silver platter, so what was the over all journey? And to find out that this was how the show was always supposed to end was extremely disappointing, to say the least.

Jess had the best redemption

As a fellow Teresa, I am so proud of Lindsay’s mom. ❤

honestly Rory started being a villain in my eyes as soon as she went to that academy and then Harvard she was literally a super villain

Rory got serious Main character syndrome

Someone made a video before where they pointed out that Rory's decline started much earlier -- when she didn't tell Dean that she kissed Tristan the day after they broke up. And it was Lorelai who told her not to tell him even though Rory wanted to be honest to Dean at the time.

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There will be a lot of varied opinions on this, but I think what's brilliant about the show is that this is an intentional trick. Assuming we take AYITL to be similar to how ASP wanted the show to originally end, the show is a full circle in how we see Lorelai escaping her mother's expectations, and then we're in love with Rory, who we think will grow up and be perfect and do no wrong. The whole trajectory of the show is this perfect image of Rory slowly unraveling from her mother's and our high expectations with the ultimate punchline that her life is upended with an unplanned pregnancy at a pivotal point in her career (in ASP's version of season seven, when she's about to go to grad school). The show does want you to think Rory's perfect... only so that your expectations of her can be dashed so we feel as disappointed as Emily was in Lorelai. There's a lot of mirroring in how Rory buckles under Lorelai's often unspoken high expectations (which are probably more similar to Emily's than it appears) and is extremely unfaithful in relationships, reflecting the chaos of Lorelai's pregnancy out of wedlock. In truth Rory's so far from the well-behaved, hyper-capable career woman her mom (and we as the audience) see her as.

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I never understood the whole Logan thing in the revival. He asked her to marry him and she didn't want to. And she continues to date other people but still keeps him as a feel-good blanky? And if I remember correctly, even in the revival he asks her, if she wants to be together for real and she still says no. Rory just is and has always been a shitty person.

I somewhat disagree about the Dean and Roy interaction about the letter and everything that happened. I took it more as Dean was remorseful. He realized what a horrible thing he did, and what he lost all for somebody who basically wasn’t worth it and he was more pissed off that Rory doesn’t see it and that she’s not as remorseful or taking actions to try to fix anything with the people that they hurt I’d be pissed at Rory too. I’d be pissed at myself, though I’d never do such a thing, but were I in there shoes I would be angry at myself and angry at the other person who can’t seem to find the respect and empathy to 1 care about Lindsey’s feelings based off of what they both did and 2 understand Dean’s feelings that he realized he did an absolute horrible thing.