Rewatching again, it really irritates me how angry Lorelei gets over Max asking appropriate questions about merging their lives. Max asks her what his role should be in Rory’s life, and how far Lorelei is comfortable with him intervening in parenting; to which she responds that Rory doesn’t need any more parenting. He was doing what a new step parent should do-having a conversation in private before a real situation comes up. The show kind of paints it as Lorelei just being a good protective mom when really it’s more like using her child as an out for her inability to communicate and adapt, like she does with Rory and Chris.

I don’t think it’s that Emily didn’t have aspirations, it’s just that her aspirations were to be the wife of the wealthy man. That was what she was told she should aspire to do, and that’s what she wanted her daughter to do. She saw the comfortable life Richard provided for her, and wanted someone to provide that for Lorelai.

The casting for young Lorelai is so freakishly spot on and she acted so well.

One of the main problems with Lorelai is that she is never fully committed in her relationships. It is because of this habit that she has of doing whatever she wants. She does not want to give up her independent life, and the idea of entwining it with someone else is horrifying. That's why Rory picked up on her bad habits.

To me the curse of the Gilmore girls is to not know how to learn from their mothers

I just now noticed how extremely different Lorelai's parents are from Christopher's. Both families are rich and have incredibly high and strict standards for their children but Emily and Richard were heavily involved in Rory's life whereas Strobe and Francine only met Rory once and it went horribly and they didn't want anything to do with her. Very strong juxtaposition when both families have the same general background. I like how you pointed that out. Love the Gilmore girls content❤

I completely agree with how frustrating it would feel to experience her all in or nothing philosophy but i empathised so much for her with the Luke situation, he pushed her away and she eventually had to put herself first, let go of the car bumper as she says. She did Max so dirty on the other hand.

Jason and Lorelei were great - they really did have such similar humor and he was definitely quirky. Even his dog was quirky. Kinda sucked how they wrote him off in service of the Luke and Lorelei ship that the fandom was obsessed with. I attributed the issues with the whole Year in the Life revival to ASP trying to go so hard with the fan service that she ended up writing more of a fanfic instead of genuinely letting all the characters evolve.

Her parents were controlling and emotionally abusive to Lorelei, they care more about their social status than their on daughter. She was right in leaving

Okay I have one huge argument it wasn’t that Lorelai “thought” she didn’t have support, she absolutely didn’t have support look at Chris he’s awful and not only did he abandon Lorelai he abandoned his daughter and Lor was hurt because she’s seeing Chris be so available and attentive Sherri while when she was in the same situation Chris was nowhere to be found. It was hurtful for Lorelai to see so plainly how Chris cared for Sherri in the way she needed years ago. It was a slap in the face Emily and Richard was a while different thing to unpack.

I think when she was a teenager it wasn’t hyper independence yet. I think she was a spoiled bored rich kid. There were many latch key kids that didn’t “act out” the way Lorelei did simply because they didn’t have the privilege to do so. There’s a little security for Lorelei to do what she was doing. I think Rory was a consequence and an excuse other rebellion. Without the teen pregnancy I don’t think Lorelei would’ve struck out on her own. I think she liked the safety net even if it was subconsciously. But I also don’t think she got pregnant on purpose by any means.

The girl that played young Lorelei did such a great job. I wish they did more flashback episodes it was so fascinating to see

Just to clarify, Emily's family is also rich; her family is almost never mentioned, but when planning Rory's 21st birthday, she mentions she wanted invitations lined with pearls and her mom got them for her. She also states that the first time she went to Europe, she stayed on the Ritz, and she also went to Smith College, speaks french and italian fluently, she's at the top of the food chain in a very elitist community; if she had just married rich, there's no way she would be on the board of every organization for old money people, and finally, she's totally fine with incest to keep bloodlines pure, which she wouldn't be if she didn't come from a "pure bloodline".

Leaving when Rory is 1 sounds like she was very young but a LOT happens in a babies first year. I assume that Christopher wasn’t very involved that first year so Lorelai didn’t feel bad about “taking Rory from him”. I get the impression Chris would have only done what he was told, and his parents wouldn’t have told him to see Rory.

Honestly I don't see the revival as canon. Personally by then Lorelei would have been married to Luke already, especially bc they love each other too much to wait that long.

'She was JUST kind of a wife ... never really had ASPERATIONS on her own....' That is really devaluing. Getting a good education, finding a soulmate and being a surpportive wife and finding value in being a mother are aspirations. Even if they don't aline with your own. Just like you decide those characters haven't evolved because they don't aline with what you define as growth.

She didn't "choose to see her parents as enemies", they neglected and manipulated her since childhood and it was a trauma response

I disagree with the argument that Lorelai‘s hyperindependence made her push everyone away. I think she felt super abandoned by everybody and chose to go to the hospital alone because there was truly no one she wanted to be there with her since a) her and her parents have quite the toxic relationship and I personally think Lorelai would be much better off without them and b) Christopher just wasn‘t ready to be a father. I can completely see why she chose to go through that alone rather than with any of them by her side; they weren‘t really on her side at all. I don‘t agree that she „chose“ to see her parents as enemies: they actually are. They‘re both super narcissistic and have never cared about what Lorelai actually wanted

I guess the one habit of Lorelai that is the worst of all is how much she lies to her partners. She is seen often lying to Luke and perhaps others too as I don't remember the exact incidents. But as I was watching the revival a few days ago, I saw she lied to Luke. I recall another such incident. And she encourages Rory to not tell Dean about her kissing Jess. While she doesn't accept it if the other person hides any important information from her.

Has anyone else ever noticed how “off” the timeline is in this show? For example Rory’s great grandmother dies twice (once I’m season 1 or 2 and then again when she is at Yale), it’s said Rory “grew up” in Stars Hallow but I’m several episodes it’s referenced that she came there when she was a baby and in others it’s referenced she came when she was a child (like 5 or 6)

I also loved Jason. I agree, Max would have been a very positive influence on Rory, they had mutal respect and great chemistry as step father and step daughter.

1) they are not rich because they went to Yale; they went to Yale because they are rich (& hard working & smart). 2) even Lorelei credits her mother’s hard work as a corporate wife, previously a well respected position, only now looked down upon as women have left the home to bring in more income to the home 3). Lorelei got plenty of attention, just not the outward emotional connection she wanted. Her parents devoted themselves to providing an extremely privileged upbringing - Lorelei rejects this, but always knows she has them in her back pocket - she is just as controlling and entitled as her parents (maybe more so)

Lorelai isn’t perfect but she is real and relatable and I absolutely watched the show just for her

-Emily didn’t go to Yale, she went to Smith College. -Emily did come from money. It’s in season one in the episode where Richard collapses at dinner. Emily screams at the hospital staff her great uncle founded that hospital. -The term you were looking for is housewife. A perfectly acceptable choice for any woman to make. Keyword choice.

I have to disagree with the implication that the relationship Lorelai had with her parents was all Lorelai's fault. There were so many times Lorelai tried and then Emily particularly but not exclusively, would do something to make Lorelai feel like crap or manipulate her. Even as an adult. I mean just one example. The most egregious IMO... when Rory left Yale and ran to R&E... they had spoken about it what they were going to do, and the moment they could get one over Lorelai they immediately took it. That is snake behaviour... and then Richard gets annoyed at Lorelai when he finally realises he and Emily have basically funded Rory to waste her life and Lorelai doesn't try and help sort out the mess THEY created. And they constantly did that ish to Lorelai... but we wanna go on like their relationship break down is Lorelai's fault... come on.

Amazing video but just a small correction Richard went to Yale and Emily went to Smith College for women!

If you think about it LG didn’t have a relationship at all with her parents for 16 years.

Rory did turn out as a douche! Thank you. So many people love her and I do not get it. I know a girl like her in real life and everyone loves her because she comes across as a pretty nice girl

I don't think she pushed everyone away, I mean she was only a kid as well I feel like Rory gave her the bravery to be like this is not the life I want for me or my child and actually had the balls to just leave the comfort of her privilege to live her ways that is intense, they wouldn't accept it and it was easier to cut ties (even more since they didn't even had a good relationship). I mean if I was forced to marry someone I would probably also run away and cut ties. I think I would say her pride (maybe) is her worst quality more than her independence. Also I had forgotten Chris parents were this awful. I think I should do a rewatch 🤔

I liked Jason so much. And Lorelai will never have that kind of chemistry with anyone else. Their relationship could have set the grounds for great plot and character development, but of course the writers just did him dirty for the sake of writing him off as soon as possible and keeping things always the same. The order in stars hollow is restored and safe.

I hadn’t seen a deep dive on the retro scene of Lorelei and Chris’s parents fighting about the pregnancy, before this video. Subbed, well done

Lorelai was trained that “support” always comes with strings and manipulation, so…her hyperindependence makes sense🤷🏾‍♀️

Loved this video and wanted to add some of my two cents into the convo! while I agree that her parents stepped up, they also never go a minute without letting her know how much of a disappointment she was (teen pregnancy isn't something to celebrate but constantly bringing up how she essentially ruined her life because she didn't do it her way is not great either). I will say that this show does an amazing job of showing how traits and trauma is generational All three Gilmore women love to be coddled in some way Emily hates being told she's in the wrong and so does Lorelai and eventually Rory as well. They're stubborn women who never quite grasp the weight of their decisions and cling to people that enable it in some way. I've always hated how careless Lorelai was with her love life as well. Dating Rory's teacher and then essentially running away from him days before walking down the altar is such a stupid decision. Dating a your father's business partner just to piss off your parents is childish. Giving your fiance an ultimatum and then marrying the father of child a few months after is extremely rash and it was behavior like that, that made Rory make decisions in her own love life eventually. My biggest problem with Lorelai is how she wants to overcorrect by being Rory's friend. She expects Rory to know right from wrong because she's "more mature" than she is. Rory needed guidance, she needed both a mother and a friend and while I absolutely commend her for raising a kid at 16 on her own, I also think more could've been done (but I'll let it slide, after all she was only a teen). Overall I think Lorelai was written to be such a good flawed character which is funny when you look at how the writers wrote Rory eventually, it's like they just had her one day wake up and decide to be an entitled jerk. 💀

Loving the content. You have a very soothing voice and are quite beautiful! GG is my comfort show too ❤️

Emily stands by Lorelay in front of others then releases all hell in private. I hate women like that

it was unfair for Lorelai to psh off her and Luke's wedding for the separation she was going through with Rory, yet Luke has an unexpected UNION with his own unknown daughter and she needs it done on her own time or she marries Christopher.

I'm Lorelai Gilmore, i always run because so many dissappointments from people I trusted, relashionships that left me with nothing (financially and emotionally) and had to start all over again from scratch. Now.....I just run everytime something starts to get serious, I will never depend on anyone ever again, like you said...MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.... Anyway still a good video😘

Your voice is very relaxing, Thank you ❤

Emily Gilmore studied history at Smith. Yale was an all male school when she would have attended.

Gilmore Girls is one of my guilty pleasure shows. I will admit to having a thing for Lorelai.

More Gilmore girls please. You do a wonderful job.

please I loved Jason and Lorelai too!!!!!!!!!!

While Emily and Richard may not have been the best parents, but they always defended her whenever anyone else insulted her or questioned her character

this vid is so good omg! 4 sure one of my new video essays

I think the Revivaly just blew the whole show up. Everything was wrong. Luke and Lorelai being together. Rory being that person. Jess still hung up on Rory. The only person I loved in the Revival was Emily, because she grew out of it. The rest just was the same or worse. Lorelai is a very complex character. She puts Rory and Christopher before herself. Always. She makes the choice to not get married and to let have Christopher the life he wants to life and not to be forced to live a life that he didn't want to have, just because they made a mistake. She makes the choice to let him back in her life over and over again. For Rory's sake, but also because she just couldn't let go of the idea she had of them as a family. She puts him before her relationship with Luke, more than once. Until she sees that he's not there when it counts and she drops it. But with everyone else it's her in the drivers seat, directing the way. She drags Luke along. And as much as I love their banter, the way they are together - that shouldn't have happened. At all. She can't really accept Jess. She's mad at him for putting April first. Don't get me wrong here: He doesn't handle the situation really well. But I get that he doesn't want her to be too involved at the time, because she is how she is. He has to think of April. He knows she has a habit of running. He knows she's selfish. He knows her in and out. And for building a relationship with his daughter, he can't have her in the picture. But she just tells him that it's now or never. Who does that to a man who just found out that he has a daughter? She isn't too involved later on either, and I think that it is a good thing. She has so much love to give. But at the same time, she wants to be loved and worshiped so badly, that she just rolls over everyone, forgetting that she should care about them.

Very well made video, i enjoyed it.

6:25 no, christopher wanted to stay with lorelai but lorelai told him to leave.

One thing I just wanted to comment on before watching the rest: Emily didn’t go to Yale right? P.S I found it! She went to Smith college and was a history major

Suuupet nitpicky here (sorry) but Emily didn't go to Yale. She went to Smith college, and met Richard at a Yale party.

Random but you should record audio books if you dont, because you have the most calming voice.

DAR, Emily’s organization, is adjacent to the Confederacy & sympathizers of that movement. Lots of old money racism within the show. All this to say I’ve seen every episode & was highly entertained

thanks for your videos from russia! i really enjoy listening to your thoghts on GG

Watch the whole series than you can comment

Emily didn't study in Yale she studied in Smith

She wanted full control over Rory because she had an insane attachment to her.

Emily went to Smith College

Tbh it’s so disappointing and dissatisfying rewatching the show now, it’s sad that the only main characters that revolved we don’t even see a good ending w them except Emily

I think Chris deserves more empathy. From what we know it seems Lorelai pushed out everyone who tried to parent Rory (like Max) and we could assume this includes Chris (she ran away with baby and didn't give Rory Chris' last name, for example). It seems Chris had not many options, either he can follow Lorelai and do whatever she wants his whole life to stay close to Rory (which doesn't feel fair to him or Rory) or forcefully take Rory from Lorelai, which isn't a realistic option if he didn't have money then he couldn't afford family court, and because his parents don't want him to have Rory I doubt they'd give him money to sue. I think the only way he thought he could be there for Rory was if he married Lorelai. And Lorelai did seem wishy washy about getting back together him, I can't blame him for thinking eventually they'd be a family unit. I think both Lorelai and Chris could've made more effort to coparent.

Need to get your facts straight Richard went to Yale, Emy went to Smith. Emily's family had money she eluded to it when making plans for Rory's 21st biryhday.

Hmm, you seem really judgy. I agree, that Lorelai has a lot of issues. What Lorelai suffers from is a kind of trauma response from her childhood. She had to depend on herself from an early age, because she was left on her own without being taken serious by her parents at all. At the same time she has attachment issues, which also is no surprise, as she fears to end like her mother, if she lets anyone into her life. So, while your statements are all correct, judging her so harshly isn´t right anyways. What Lorelai never did but would really need is therapy, to heal her inner child, so she can finally depend on others and let go of her past. I know, what I am talking about, as I am also hyper independent and feel permanently responsible for all living beings around me, leading me to overwork myself and getting frustrated. I am in therapy and since then I learned a lot about myself and how my childhood affects me thought I am 39 years old. The thing, that bothers me is that you sound like Lorelai chose to be how she is willingly and on purpose, thought, she pretty sure has no idea, that what she is doing is hurting herself and damaging her relationships. Do you have any idea how much reflection it takes to come to the point you realise what you are doing and why? Probably not. And regarding Lorelais parents, yes, they somehow love their daughter. But what you cut out of "Richard defending Lorelai, when Rory is a teenager, towards Stobe" is, what he says to Lorelai afterwards, when she thanks her father. Richard basically crushes his own daughter with his statement he only did it to protect the Gilmore name, not to protect his daughter. He never forgave Lorelai for getting pregnant, not sticking to his plan of marrying Christopher and later leaving Hartfort to live on her own with her child born out of wedlock. Richard is a great grand father most of the time, he is however a horrible husband and a terrible father. Emily is snobbish, arrogant, unfriendly, controlling and mean, not only to the people working for her but also to her own daughter. And yes, Lorelai is right, that every time her parents offers help they basically do it out of their own interesests, no matter if it is forcing the friday dinners on Lorelai in exchange for paying for Chilton, the idea of Lorelai marrying Christopher was only suggested to protect the families name, even taking in Rory when she dropped out of Yale wasn´t for Rorys sake but for themselves, because they finally had the daughter they always wanted in Rory. Again, Lorelai has a lot of traits that I also find kind of annoying, but she is one of the most realistic characters written back then. Do I hate watching her destroying all her relationships till she finally ends up happily with Luke? Yes, of course I do. But what Lorelai is doing is what most people do, when they had a horrible childhood, so I am at least not surprised at all

Na talk at me for 45 minutes I’ve enjoyed boy GG videos

It is a fictional show but these things happen in families and even the wealthy you are 2nd guessing her choices and folks raising her my Mom grew up in a well to do family during the Depression and it's not easy to sort all this stuff out yeah many terrible people Chris's parents yes I agree

Just to let ya know, Emily went to Smith.

This has been one of the worst video essays I have ever seen, just rambling around topics without any conclusion ever. At the end I was like, was that it? Pointless

She's a corporate wife, don't be so condescending.

Emily didnt go to Yale she went to Brown

I am putting an unlike on the video only because I love the show but I get her point or view. However.. its just a show. But this show is relatable to all of us and that is why we watch it.