The Woman Whose Blood Was So Toxic It Cleared A Hospital - Gloria Ramirez

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Chapters for The Toxic Lady
00:00 Intro to the Toxic Lady
01:53 Chemistry
02:45 The Incident
08:49 Analysis
11:50 States Conclusion
16:41 The Theories
17:24 The Impossible Reaction Theory
22:41 Mass Hysteria Theory
26:33 Conspiracy Theory
29:31 My Theory
EDIT: in the video i state that more carbon atoms are picked up when actually it's oxygen atoms. sorry for the error
This months video is all about the curious events surrounding Gloria Ramirez - The Toxic Lady.
Gloria Ramirez's case is an unusual one with a lot of curious details surrounding her toxic blood. This is how she became nicknamed the toxic lady. Join me as we take a look at another strange and unusual case.
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@tearastewart5158
@tearastewart5158 3 жыл бұрын
This happened in my hometown but were pretty far from La but in the inland empire
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I'd be interested to get your perspective as a native. Which narrative did people ascribe to and do you think I'm accurate with my analysis?
@tearastewart5158
@tearastewart5158 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I’ve watched and looked up that case so much since it did happen in my hometown, I’m fascinated by it and your breakdown by far has been the best explanation I could find to really break down what could have happened and how. Mind you I was just a baby when all this happened but it’s definitely a very known famous case here in lame old riverside lol I think your very accurate and for a long time people just thought it was a phenomenon that couldn’t be explained.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
It was my favourite kind of case really, one that with a bit of science and medicine was solvable. Really had to revise my organic chemistry to get to the answer though
@tearastewart5158
@tearastewart5158 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeakedInterest yes definitely such an interesting case and you did sooo damn good with that breakdown, I found your channel looking for more information on the Dutch ladies that went “missing” and came across that second video. 👌🏼
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
There is also the video about the poor Japanese guy which is very similar to those two but with less mystery involved. I'll also be covering many more since people keep.sending me things to look into lol
@CharlieApples
@CharlieApples 2 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest parts about this case was that Gloria’s children were subsequently bullied at school as a result of the sensationalized news stories about their dead mother. Other kids spread rumors that they came from a filthy household, that their mother was a meth addict, that their mother was a mutant, that their family was dangerous, etc. I can’t imagine losing your mother at a young age in such a horrific way, only to be teased and ostracized for it.
@johnnyvivic8730
@johnnyvivic8730 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's terrible. This side of the story hasn't had much light shed on it.
@ViniSocramSaint
@ViniSocramSaint 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to highschool I guess
@pman2916
@pman2916 2 жыл бұрын
How do I find this information?
@minagica
@minagica 2 жыл бұрын
That's so extra sad, I hope they're alright
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody replied to the pinned comment stating they ended up in Riverside General after being stabbed. Overall, it really sounds like a wonderful place to raise a family... Although children are often horrible to each other the world over I suppose. How sad for her children to have been put through that.
@IARRCSim
@IARRCSim 2 жыл бұрын
You know you're in a bad situation when anyone even near you pukes, vomits, and goes into convulsions within minutes.
@Kiinell
@Kiinell 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it wouldn't really inspire confidence would it?
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
You know you#re in a really bad situation if it's the medical staff that's having the symptoms.
@despacitodaniel801
@despacitodaniel801 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its usually the first thing people do when they see me
@jendleux2647
@jendleux2647 2 жыл бұрын
true
@pacrat6271
@pacrat6271 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt puking and vomiting the same thing..?
@paramedicsam
@paramedicsam 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the ER that night. I was working as a EMT just starting my career. To get to the ER via ambulance was down a ramp to the ER doors. people where running up the ramp as I was outside doing paperwork. I have zero idea if anything toxic was going on with Gloria but the air in the ER was pungent and gritty. That's the only way I can think to describe it. I suffered no side affects but clearly remember that night. Your analysis is spot on, well done.
@variegatedmonsterathaicon
@variegatedmonsterathaicon 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy you were there wow
@basamaro1
@basamaro1 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have adrenaline flowing that night, by any chance?
@paramedicsam
@paramedicsam 2 жыл бұрын
@@basamaro1 That's a good question. seeing as it was my 1st year in EMS, I probably did have it. It was a crazy night before the events in the ER. They demolished the entire hospital and put a business park on top of it, sad really.
@chickenlover657
@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын
You were an EMT, but can't even properly spell? Well, either you're a liar, or the medical system in the USA is on third world level, when they have to resort to hiring folks who can't even spell simple every day words. Even more frightening is you spell like that NOW - meaning years after your "career started", as you put it.
@ColenzoTheHumdrum
@ColenzoTheHumdrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 Why you gotta do him like that?
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 2 жыл бұрын
Please remember that this was a real person that went through this horrific event. Rest in peace Gloria. Your ordeal is over.
@daveogfans413
@daveogfans413 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh thanks for clarifying. I thought it was not a real person and a pretty nice event. Good thing you made this comment or else I'd look pretty stupid.
@nakedslayer6685
@nakedslayer6685 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I could’ve sworn he was just talking about a Garth Ennis comic thanks for that correction
@NagitosWifeSpotty
@NagitosWifeSpotty 2 жыл бұрын
yall leave them alone, damn smh fuckin tearing em apart
@mirandafitch1013
@mirandafitch1013 2 жыл бұрын
So sad I feel awful for her
@DraidtheSpacePirate
@DraidtheSpacePirate 2 жыл бұрын
I "love" how you said to treat her like a real person and everyone starts giving you crap like you aren't. Thanks for being the voice of empathy, friend, not everyone gets it. ❤
@dovregubben78
@dovregubben78 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did psychiatrists once believe hysteria only affected females, they believed that it was CAUSED BY female anatomy, namely the uterus. The word "hysteria" comes from the Greek word "hustera," meaning "womb." It is from this root word that we also get "hysterectomy." It was once believed that hysterectomy was a legitimate treatment for hysteria.
@sensen1080
@sensen1080 2 жыл бұрын
To add, many believed the uterus actually moved around a woman's body, and this "wandering womb" caused the mental issues.
@nightgaunt535
@nightgaunt535 2 жыл бұрын
They also believed it consisted of 8 chambers
@annamayrand5483
@annamayrand5483 2 жыл бұрын
The first vibrator was invented to treat hysteria (when giving women orgasms was considered an effective treatment)!
@mimkyodar
@mimkyodar 2 жыл бұрын
@@annamayrand5483 "Once these women orgasm, maybe they'll stop being so crazy!" - Some doctor, probably.
@themuse11
@themuse11 2 жыл бұрын
hysterical!
@jessbellis9510
@jessbellis9510 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, classic "hysteria" causing seizures and necrosis.
@bonkosuckacocka983
@bonkosuckacocka983 2 жыл бұрын
Hate when that happens
@muppetb.lansing8374
@muppetb.lansing8374 2 жыл бұрын
Its so ironic for the scientific/medical community to use such a non-scientific term/theory which basically meaningless and translates to "we dont have a fckn clue what occurred."
@canadianwheatbread1301
@canadianwheatbread1301 2 жыл бұрын
@@muppetb.lansing8374 yeah it’s pretty much just medical talk for ”you know how women get”
@ethpling165
@ethpling165 2 жыл бұрын
@@muppetb.lansing8374 When you look at things like the dancing plagues that were contributed to mass hysteria, “I don’t have a fucking clue” is a pretty accurate description
@baphtism
@baphtism 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethpling165 we can't actually prove that any of it happened, and even if it did, there is a way more logical explanation than mass hysteria. honestly, i think mass hysteria is a bunch of bull and it was also used to disregard women entirely. there was another case of "dancing plague" in spain long ago, where people would dance as remedy when they were bitten by venomous spiders. because they would dance themselves into exhaustion that would kill them, it reinforced this idea that you had to continue dancing to survive once bitten. that is how they learned, as untrue as it may be. considering this happened a few times, it was probably common knowledge to people to dance to survive the bite, or whatever else may have troubled them. in other words, i don't think these people were subject to hysteria or true madness- although, with the medical knowledge we have now it's easier to write it off as "they were just crazy" when in reality, they experienced a huge lack of medical phenomena and resources, and were left to find their own "remedies" in a time of desperation and confusion.
@localmenace3043
@localmenace3043 2 жыл бұрын
That statement made by the state had my blood boiling. ‘Mass hysteria’ should never be attributed to something like this among trained medical professionals, female or not. I’m glad they fought it.
@bluehead310
@bluehead310 2 жыл бұрын
What happend to her?
@juliemclain5841
@juliemclain5841 Жыл бұрын
I mean, if it's mostly women then of course they would. Like the mass hysteria that women had that needed to be treated by a Dr using a vibrator. Ugh
@jl4260
@jl4260 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't quite buy the mass hysteria theory when these doctors are faced with critical emergencies on a daily basis including severe trauma victims and don't all collapse into heart arrhythmic unconscious states. I definitely think the ketoacidiosis theory holds weight, but I somehow also think this would have been considered and ruled out by the medical professionals. Though things do get overlooked so it's possible.
@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648
@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe ketoacidosis isn't common for an ordinary cancer patient? However, cancer patients are known to sometimes pursue weird diets in a desperate attempt to beat the cancer when contemporary orthodox medical care doesn't do it. I had a friend who perished of cancer who near the end was trying kale juice. Perhaps a combination of things, including medical fumbles and staff under harmful stress. I'd like to know how that hospital rated among hospitals at that time for accuracy of medical care.
@skye6949
@skye6949 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The mass hysteria was likely used in a sexist way to brush off the females' experience in the situation.
@UnOpEnEdLoVeNoTeS
@UnOpEnEdLoVeNoTeS 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a surplus of ketones be present in the blood as for it to be ketoacidosis?
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 2 жыл бұрын
The hysteria theory was definitely very flawed. they're doctors...there's no way an entire staff team would be that deeply affected by a patient having a heart attack. they've seen a whole lot worse; it just doesn't make sense. and it sounds like a lousy, lazy-ass way to explain what happened
@MsMoonDragoon
@MsMoonDragoon 2 жыл бұрын
yeah the hysteria theory is a lead of bs, especially since modern phycologists theorize it doesn't even exist.
@danniis9444
@danniis9444 2 жыл бұрын
This case has always fascinated me but I feel so bad for Gloria. Had to suffer through and die from cancer and is remembered for this.
@angelduran3141
@angelduran3141 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this case happened and it was pretty scary to think a bio. weapon had been released in the city of Riverside where I lived hospital staff was very scared and wore masks
@peachparee7647
@peachparee7647 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelduran3141 lol imagine being called a bio weapon. That's a pretty cool way to go out xD
@spvillano
@spvillano 2 жыл бұрын
@@peachparee7647 that'd be me after eating a can of beans.
@Msboochie2
@Msboochie2 Жыл бұрын
@@spvillano 😂😂😂
@Changed.User100
@Changed.User100 11 ай бұрын
Theres a lot more people that died way worse but ok
@BS-hk8yi
@BS-hk8yi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to why the ambulance team was unaffected when transporting Gloria. Surely they'd gotten an IV and such started...
@LiterallyWho1917
@LiterallyWho1917 3 жыл бұрын
probably hadn't fully metabolized yet by that point.
@SheeshMaster64
@SheeshMaster64 3 жыл бұрын
he did say that the chemical didnt turn to the second form until the oxygen mask had been administered, then the deadly form after a while of the chemical breaking down and binding with carbon within her
@danhudson4614
@danhudson4614 3 жыл бұрын
Or even just they wasn't suspicious enough to smell sniff or deeply inhale anything from a close proximity. An oxygen mask would help to 'mask' odor from her mouth also maybe?. Plus there would be more fresh air turbulence in and out of a vehicle.
@jessieqk12
@jessieqk12 2 жыл бұрын
@@danhudson4614 that makes absolutely no sense...
@danhudson4614
@danhudson4614 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessieqk12 The nurse and doctor said they sniffed the blood sample and odour from the mouth. The Ambulance crew would maybe put in an iv but they wouldn't have extracted or sniffed anything. They would hook her up to the equipment using gloves and be gone. There's more fresh air inside an Ambulance a 😷 over her mouth would help dissipate a toxic odour while potentially creating the chemical reaction..assuming that's what happened. If it was the blood the ambulance crew would not have smelt it at all. The nurse smelt the extracted sample of blood the Doctor held it to her face to notice the white particles and odd colour, probably inhaling to notice a smell too either way it was close enough to her face.. assuming it WAS toxic.
@EmmaBGames
@EmmaBGames 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you said "blocked urinary tract" I said "ketoacidosis with excessive ammonia present in blood " so same theory as you; just needed the one piece that was missing.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Seemed logical to me
@aaclovern9804
@aaclovern9804 2 жыл бұрын
I want chubby emu episode on this topic. But unfortunately there is not enough materials for him to make a video :(
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaclovern9804 I read "present in the blood" in the original comment and instantly thought of him
@nancyalywahby2784
@nancyalywahby2784 2 жыл бұрын
Possibility of "Blocked urinary tract" would have been evaluated with ALL the medical workups and exams before the actual chemotherapy.
@Rexwizord
@Rexwizord 2 жыл бұрын
@@nancyalywahby2784 it would have been written off as soon as a catheter was inserted
@2degucitas
@2degucitas 2 жыл бұрын
My mother used DMSO for carpel tunnel pain in the 70's. It DEFINITELY leaves a noticable garlic smell to the breath.
@carlakalla7606
@carlakalla7606 Жыл бұрын
Why this DMSO smells lime garlic. ??
@carlakalla7606
@carlakalla7606 Жыл бұрын
Why this DMSO smells lime garlic. ??
@amyjohoppins1087
@amyjohoppins1087 Жыл бұрын
​@@carlakalla7606 get some. try it. it's a safe experience.
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 Жыл бұрын
Yikes!
@JustBeStill522
@JustBeStill522 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if it works?
@sossma
@sossma 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened. This was a very confusing story and the news programs NEVER followed up. Thank you for this. That poor woman's family was vilified and they had to plead for privacy while they dealt with her death.
@astridvvv9662
@astridvvv9662 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but why were the vilified?
@AuroraLalune
@AuroraLalune Жыл бұрын
@@astridvvv9662 Because it’s easy.
@RiisingSunn
@RiisingSunn 2 жыл бұрын
State: “MAsS HysTeRIa” Good thing that woman sued.
@roman.ia.empire
@roman.ia.empire 2 жыл бұрын
hmm let me just develop some hepatitis god forbid I as a doctor observe everyone collapsing around me
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 2 жыл бұрын
But thats what happened, its the only conclusion that passes the test
@eradict
@eradict 2 жыл бұрын
It's probaby not the case, but let's not pretend that that isn't a possibility.
@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648
@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an overly broad brush... maybe the weird symptoms of the woman did get to the other ladies there, in addition to the ammonia exposure she caused to some of those gathered there. It might speak to how stressful the medical care environment is. You want to tend to someone who is in serious medical trouble, and you don't even eat??? Something is being pressed to the breaking point for no good reason.
@PoptartParasol
@PoptartParasol 2 жыл бұрын
@@seekingthelovethatgodmeans7648 it's not uncommon for people and nurses to not eat because of how long their shifts are. This is not really rare. Especially if you are called in to take up a patient, and the care goes on for hours there's no real room to eat there. Hospitals are very chaotic, I wouldn't find all of them collectively forgetting to eat or not having time to eat as particular unusual
@JIMJAMSC
@JIMJAMSC 2 жыл бұрын
I arrived at a location about the same time EMS arrived. A middle aged man was unresponsive. After they worked on him I assisted loading him and he projectile vomited like a volcano. It was black, mixed with blood and got on us. Immediately we all felt a burning sensation, eye irritation and breathing issues. Another deputy met me in the hospital and told me they found a bottle of commercial grade pipe acid. Still have slight scars 20 years later.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
That's a genuinely crazy story. Sounds like something id cover on this channel
@_dadas
@_dadas 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’re ok. Besides the scarring. Thank you for helping that man.
@tummyfungus
@tummyfungus 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😳 that's some crazy stuff! I'm glad you're doing alright
@williamsmitherson2170
@williamsmitherson2170 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late but do you know what happened to the man that vomited? I hope he made it out okay
@bettygrable5035
@bettygrable5035 2 жыл бұрын
I remember My dad getting a prescription for something, and it turned into Aspirin in his stomach causing him to be in the hospital for about 8 days. He was allergic to Aspirin. The thing that made Me angry about it was the doctor knew He was allergic to aspirin prior to prescribing this drug.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine what could happen to people who aren't allergic. Aspirin is a blood thinner, which is why dentists ask if you took any before tinkering at your teeth. They don't want you to bleed out.
@vority2860
@vority2860 2 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios he wasn't even bleeding lol
@wiwaxiasilver827
@wiwaxiasilver827 2 жыл бұрын
It is complicated… if there was a prodrug of aspirin, I agree it should have been avoided, but because I don’t know the drug, I can’t really give you an objective statement.
@wiwaxiasilver827
@wiwaxiasilver827 2 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios It does happen, but it alone is usually not that potent. Usually the drug to be more worried about is warfarin.
@bettygrable5035
@bettygrable5035 2 жыл бұрын
@@wiwaxiasilver827 Yeah, and I can't remember what it was. But My dad told me the doctors at the hospital said it turned into aspirin in his stomach. But thanks.
@xlarishx3951
@xlarishx3951 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who spilled 100% DMSO outside a fume hood (lab setting) I can confirm that it does smell like garlic..... However I did not pass out cleaning it up😎
@rogerszmodis6913
@rogerszmodis6913 2 жыл бұрын
Because you didn’t spill dimethyl sulphate.
@Radagast97
@Radagast97 2 жыл бұрын
What I find irritating is the narrator saying, multiple times, that Dimethyl sulfone got extra CARBON atoms to form dimethyl sulfate. DMSO, dimethyl sulfone AND dimethyl sulfate all have the same number of carbon atoms. Each has progressively more oxygen atoms, but the C content are the same.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
@Glenn Murray I'm not a chemist and thought I'd read enough to understand, clearly I was mistaken. sometimes errors happen all I can do is learn from it and try not to make the same mistake again.
@Rexwizord
@Rexwizord 2 жыл бұрын
@@Radagast97 the catalyst was clearly the defibrillator.
@Radagast97
@Radagast97 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rexwizord I don't think I referenced a catalyst, only that the descriptions of certain chemical processes was inaccurate (specifically that all the dimethyl sulfur compounds in the video contained the same number of carbons and adding more couldn't change one into another). If you mean catalyst in a colloquial sense, no problem. If you mean in a chemical sense, energy nor mechanical devices are a catalyst, being catalysts are substances, not a mechanical device or any form of energy.
@hannie649
@hannie649 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you calling out the sexist roots of “hysteria.” Honestly psychology was such a joke in its infancy (buut I mean, what field of study wasn’t tho? lol)
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
It seemed appropriate due to the subject and I didn't want any aspersion cast
@rogerhu126
@rogerhu126 3 жыл бұрын
Psychology was not just sexist, but just plain fucking weird in it’s infancy. Just basically a bunch of crackpot theories about the brain made by a literal crackhead.
@willissudweeks1050
@willissudweeks1050 3 жыл бұрын
Still by no means perfect.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 3 жыл бұрын
I know I instantly get my hackles up when someone even skirts close to suggesting something is psychosomatic, or "hysterical" due to the historical misogyny involved. Honestly I wish it was discussed more; we're all, as humans, suggestible and affected by the mind controlling the body--just look at chronic pain conditions! I just think medical professionals need to be more aware in communication, and that the general public needs to understand that, if it's your reality, it's real. Some people's pain is triggered by the mind, but there's no difference in the suffering of that person, and good harm reduction approaches don't treat physical pain only.
@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560
@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560 2 жыл бұрын
well women are more likely to get hysteric and thats not false
@randycisneros4111
@randycisneros4111 2 жыл бұрын
My mother in-law worked for a doctor during this incident and it was known fact that some drug activity was going on behind closed doors. Gloria also went across the border for treatment for her cancer and became and sick when she came back and her family called for a ambulance. The hospital was closed and demolished shorty after this investigation. My mother in-law and a lot of her friends were told not to talk about anything about drugs. Also Gloria was buried in a sealed infectious bag.
@Kachamorich21
@Kachamorich21 Жыл бұрын
Wow why does no one shed light on this. Especially her going across border for treatment
@AuroraLalune
@AuroraLalune Жыл бұрын
@@Kachamorich21 Because then it gets turned into someone somewhere making it about putting down another country.
@numberpirate
@numberpirate 2 жыл бұрын
Amine isn't a chemical but a functional group. You do not call something specifically ester, nor hydroxyl as they are all ubiquitous functional groups. It would be like calling an animal with feet, a foot.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction.
@TimothyReeves
@TimothyReeves 2 жыл бұрын
OTOH, submarine atmosphere control equipment includes CO2 scrubbers that use monoethanolamine, but we sub sailors normally just referred to it as ‘amine’, even those of us with chemistry backgrounds.
@sarahm8695
@sarahm8695 3 жыл бұрын
I had heard variations of this woman's story but never got the details that I wanted. This video is an unexpected godsend!! You, my good sir, have earned my subscription.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I shall respect and treasure it.
@MrsBirdiegoeshell
@MrsBirdiegoeshell 2 жыл бұрын
mine, too
@jdk9932
@jdk9932 3 жыл бұрын
came from the most radioactive man video, then watched the dutch girls video & now onto this. you have a new subscriber, your videos are truly on the same field as dateline & 60 minutes. i’m so impressed by the quality of your videos, you deserve so many more subscribers & views to compensate for all the hard work you put into these videos! it does not go unnoticed & unappreciated by us! can’t wait to see more from you in the future
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I genuinely appreciate that. I'll do my best not to disappoint
@HowToKillYourself
@HowToKillYourself 3 жыл бұрын
i came from the radioactive man video and had similar thoughts! i very much appreciate the high quality of your videos *subscribe
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
@cha cha thanks for the vote of confidence.
@gutss8608
@gutss8608 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting this is my order of the video’s too
@ThaUNScape
@ThaUNScape 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao bro I did the exact same as you, yea good shit. Never knew this channel till today
@beamer.electronics
@beamer.electronics 2 жыл бұрын
Did the authorities forensically search her home? Understandably, a dying patent might reach out (in desperation) to some very strange stuff. My empathy goes out to all concerned.
@rat_dragon
@rat_dragon 2 жыл бұрын
This makes the most sense. I suffered ketoacidosis as a child (I was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes at age 2.5 and P-ANCA, a rare kidney disorder not at all related to the diabetes, at age 8). Apparently I had grey, oily skin, fruity-smelling breath, problems urinating and a blood glucose level of over 1000. Although my A1C has gone from 12 to 7 in the past 2 yrs, I still experience strange, fruity-smelling or garlic-tasting breath when my BG is over 300. I've had chemotherapy and am on chemo medication because of my rare kidney disease. I never had weird symptoms like what was explained in the video. So yeah, I think you're spot-on.
@darth_autie_117
@darth_autie_117 Жыл бұрын
I went into DKA just before I was first diagnosed at 18. my blood glucose was around 30mmol/l. I was told I had a pear drop smell and I'd lost a load of weight
@phoebejanemiller1671
@phoebejanemiller1671 3 жыл бұрын
Your theory explained a lot, and is very convincing! However, I can't help but wonder if Gloria might have tried some sort of alternative Cancer treatment. A lot of people who can't afford traditional treatment or feel as if their chances of survival are low resort to more unconventional measures. Is it possible that Gloria was self medicating? Were there any experimental treatments that used similar ingredients to meth? Could Gloria have been using meth for palliative care, knowing that she was going to die? She probably wouldn't have told anyone. And if she was buying drugs to ease her suffering, its not unlikely she got a "bad batch" either mixed with or missing specific chemicals. Just a thought, though! As always, great research and presentation.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
I did check and there aren't any experimental or alternative treatments but there's is a little research regarding DMSO use to shrink certain types of tumours
@A-ROD-oe8wl
@A-ROD-oe8wl 2 жыл бұрын
Meth ? Would cause everybody in the same room to faint ?
@SalusKitty
@SalusKitty 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeakedInterest , some sort of mustard gas? -Just a thought from a sleep deprived teen... EDIT: wait, one of the chemicals that in an old class of mine (IDK what it was called but another student thought was something to clean the table with) "smelled like ammonia." but made me feel a burning sensation in my face, lightheaded, I had trouble breathing. EDIT 2: It was used to keep finished artwork from smudging. (it was supposed to be used outside, not in large amounts inside to a point where it was a greasy mess)
@DominicNJ73
@DominicNJ73 2 жыл бұрын
@@SalusKitty I don't know the specific chemicals but the spray you used in art class is called fixative. It can be nasty, has a strong odor and unless you have good ventilation needs to be used outside. I use it to fix my pastel and charcoal drawings.
@WynneL
@WynneL 2 жыл бұрын
@@DominicNJ73 Fascinating! I wonder if Gloria had an art hobby.
@redacted_vombat5742
@redacted_vombat5742 3 жыл бұрын
I remember chemistry back in highschool, everybody hated it except the drug addict
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh
@BastedwithMustard
@BastedwithMustard 3 жыл бұрын
LOL wow explains me to a Tee actually
@Phoebe5448
@Phoebe5448 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked Chemistry, but I tried it in secondary and it required Maths. Lots of Maths. I ended up with a neutron with 34 electrons. So I dropped it after that lol 😆 but its still a fascinating subject!! 😊👍
@chinaman1
@chinaman1 2 жыл бұрын
YEAH SCIENCE!
@JaneSmith0709
@JaneSmith0709 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha, yes!!!
@bluedragonfly5
@bluedragonfly5 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case because I have used DMSO since the age of 12 when I tore a ligament in my knee. My surgeon was the team doctor for Stanford's football team. He gave me DMSO and had me use it multiple times daily to heal my knee. In one month I was off crutches. Ii healed in less than 3 months. I continued to use it on my arthritic horse's legs. It was magical how it helped my horse. Over the years when I had serious injuries I would use it , but only topically. It would always give me garlic breath. I researched it as an adult and it is used internally as well for serious bladder problems. DMSO is sold in health food stores and is still used by veternarians and some medical people. It reduces inflammation and its effect was discovered accidentally by people who worked with it and saw their arthrutis improve. I believe this woman likely used it in conjunction with something else as if you mix it with something else, it takes the other substance into your bloodstream. The one definite side effect of using it is the garlic breath. It is used internally in the bladder for interstitial cystitis.
@gladitsnotme
@gladitsnotme 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking she may have spilled something on the area she used DMSO or something. A cleaning solution or something. It wouldn't show up in a lab result bc of the absorption/metabolic process. But it could have reacted within her body to become something volatile like ammonia.
@angelrayvega88
@angelrayvega88 Жыл бұрын
I read dmso can also cause heart palpatations and in rare cases arrythmia as a side effect.
@lesleyewen-foster3629
@lesleyewen-foster3629 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I remember this case as I live nearby. The last I heard of it was the official mass hysteria dx, and I just didn't buy into that at all. I was a radiographer, accustomed to sights, smells and sounds of trauma rooms and I could not imagine that many trauma personnel passing out hysterically. This was a very good, and fascinating, presentation.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm a former radiographer too
@cerorchid
@cerorchid 2 жыл бұрын
I lived a few miles away from the hospital when this happened. I also never believed the mass hysteria explanation.
@stargazeification
@stargazeification 3 жыл бұрын
This video must be the only one on this case that is actually detailed and not full of paranormal bs. Great job, got yourself a new subscriber. I really enjoyed the video on the dutch girls going missing in panama too, very informative!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'll try not to disappoint
@keonkla
@keonkla 2 жыл бұрын
i agree but please do not promote spiritual bigotry. Thanks
@Oliver-ob8pc
@Oliver-ob8pc 2 жыл бұрын
"Spiritual bigotry"??? Yeah, imagine not believing in something, how awful... /s
@kimzee59
@kimzee59 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't watched it before, his video on Hiatchi Ouchi (the most radioactive man) is also great
@almi7256
@almi7256 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-ob8pc pretty sure they're saying spiritual bigotry as in dismissing peoples beliefs as "bs" mostly implies
@macaylacayton2915
@macaylacayton2915 2 жыл бұрын
he said the unfound chemical was dimethyl sulfate right? if so, that chemical has a half life of less than 5 minutes, so depending on how long that chemical was in her body, it could have been gone by the point of the test
@E-Kat
@E-Kat 2 жыл бұрын
Find a scientific paper on it and you’ll find it doesn’t work like that.
@macaylacayton2915
@macaylacayton2915 2 жыл бұрын
@@E-Kat you’re telling me that I didn’t do my research correctly? Ok tell me EXACTLY what part I got wrong
@SLZeroArrow
@SLZeroArrow 2 жыл бұрын
This literally sounds like an SCP story but whats even scarier, is that this actually freaking HAPPENED. Its one heck of a chemical anomaly that remains unsolved to this day.
@WynneL
@WynneL 2 жыл бұрын
Mass Hysteria by itself just sounds absurd in this case. Why would an experienced staff suddenly have symptoms brought on by empathy for a woman in her thirties rather than one in her twenties, or a teenager or child? Why suddenly this one random person? Ridiculous. This is the one theory which I find not the least bit credible; highly insufficient to explain the facts of the case. Ammonia exposure plus the staff being quite overworked, stressed, and hungry/dehydrated is obviously a recipe for symptoms such as they experienced. Women tend to be smaller on average and thus more susceptible to ammonia inhalation. Plus there's socialization: "Does this smell like ammonia to you?" = many female staff members affected.
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking 2 жыл бұрын
The fact he went on about this theory without instant dismissal - extremely disappointing. Having "sympathy" for a myth about women is NOT a way to support us. Women are smaller, have less blood in the body, eat less, and generally take lower doses of medication. We're much more likely to be effected by a chemical before men. (Just like children are, before women.) Just because the canaries go down first in the coal mine - does not mean the canaries are hysterical. It means they're more sensitive - and you better wake up to danger. (This is how exactly the men were saved. They'd have gone down eventually too without swift evacuation.)
@jlowe8059
@jlowe8059 Жыл бұрын
All mass hysteria cases are difficult to explain. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though, and it certainly seems likely that it's at least partially responsible for this and a host of other things.
@yabiyabi
@yabiyabi 3 жыл бұрын
You neglected to give the best example out there when it comes to chain reaction: If one yawns, the rest yawns!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
True
@killedbyshrek5109
@killedbyshrek5109 3 жыл бұрын
Like in Pokemon?
@skye6949
@skye6949 2 жыл бұрын
That's not even true. Most people do not yawn just because someone else around them does.
@killedbyshrek5109
@killedbyshrek5109 2 жыл бұрын
@@skye6949 yep
@yabiyabi
@yabiyabi 2 жыл бұрын
@@skye6949 Mood killer.
@OtterLakeFlutes
@OtterLakeFlutes 2 жыл бұрын
My first wife was dying of rapid renal failure and beginning to swell up and look grotesque but she didn't become a toxic lady; blood was regularly taken etc... the ammonia smell was ominous, unpleasant, sad...but did not make anyone pass out
@CheersNE
@CheersNE 2 жыл бұрын
This happened the year my daughter was born, we lived only twenty miles from this hospital and I was home all day and very interested in this story. What bothered me most about it was they seemed to want to hush EVERYTHING up from day ONE. I even called a newspaper reporter from a Riverside county paper a few months after it happened, he had done some investigation on the case and he was shut out completely. It has always bothered me. The hospital is in a run down neighborhood and does not have a stellar reputation. I seem to recall the FBI snooping around for a while as well. Mass hysteria...PLEASE PEOPLE!
@hengineer
@hengineer 2 жыл бұрын
my wife and I had a cat die of kidney failure (well we put her down, poor baby, only 4 years old and utterly miserable). You could smell her entire body because she could not pee out her toxicity.
@theproudpenguin3450
@theproudpenguin3450 3 жыл бұрын
how come this channel has so little views? i could have sworn this could be one of those channels that get a million views per video.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
One can hope 🤞
@talysha4977
@talysha4977 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt even notice til I saw this comment! I definitely assumed this was a channel which would have 1-3mil views per video!
@Mystery207
@Mystery207 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq doesn’t spread the good channels around as much. There aren’t that many intelligent people out here I think ?
@yuni_strawberi
@yuni_strawberi 3 жыл бұрын
IKR haha
@mio291
@mio291 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ahoyhere8113
@ahoyhere8113 2 жыл бұрын
really interesting, thanks! - I don’t believe hysteria, and that’s bc after I became ill in 2009, I had many many doctors tell me that I wasn’t sick, it was psychological, I was just fat, and I was a hypochondriac. Finally I found a doctor who took me seriously and ran a bunch of tests and diagnosed me with a 1 in 1 million rare disorder. Since that one doctor took me seriously, I got the “Not Crazy” stamp on my file, and all subsequent doctors took me seriously, and I’ve subsequently gotten 4 more diagnoses (that cluster together). Objective proof, blood tests and nervous system tests prove these disorders, and the treatment works. The main disease was in my blood the entire time, but my blood tests were always “perfect” because nobody ever tested for that specific auto-antibody. “Nothing there” usually means “nobody looked in the right place.” When there’s a mystery involving a man, the reaction is: Huh that’s mysterious. When there’s a mystery involving a woman, it’s: Oh yeah that b* is crazy.
@E-Kat
@E-Kat 2 жыл бұрын
What was the blood disorder, if you don’t mind sharing and what we’re your symptoms? This could potentially help someone. Thank you so much. I’m so happy for you, as you at last got the diagnosis but I’m so sorry what you went through! It took me seven years to have my diagnosis of gallstones and it was too late to save my gallbladder as it was all infected, I could’ve easily died in the days preceding the surgery! Since then I’m on the morphine six times a day!
@christineribone9351
@christineribone9351 Жыл бұрын
The medical industry is a very patriarchal and sexist organization. I saw some embarrassing and disgusting things while going through nursing school.
@electraheart7745
@electraheart7745 Жыл бұрын
So what was the illness?
@user-dh4rd5ot1i
@user-dh4rd5ot1i 7 ай бұрын
I agree and good for you for keep pushing for an answer
@lemonblossom0
@lemonblossom0 2 жыл бұрын
when you said she had a fruity smell in her mouth early in the video I remembered ketones but forgot the name for them, and then when you said she had kidney failure and that build up waste products everything clicked. very interesting story!
@methanbreather
@methanbreather 2 жыл бұрын
problems with your theory: - medical stuff know ketosis. and ketoacidosis. - the amount of ammonia needed for a 'burning sensation' and all the other syptoms, just by breathing in some air near the patient, would meant that the patient had enough ammonia in her blood to basically disolve her... but in all seriousness, ammonia is pretty effectively transformed by the body into urea. Kidney failure would result in high amounts of urea.
@bolamnieplecy6363
@bolamnieplecy6363 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of ketosis even before he mentioned it an the staff are idiots 🙄
@blitzie66
@blitzie66 2 жыл бұрын
@@bolamnieplecy6363 glad to see the pro doctor here in the youtube comment section
@yerazkaligian7862
@yerazkaligian7862 2 жыл бұрын
but didnt the forensic pathologists originally conclude that she died of kidney failure? so doesnt that check out? maybe the body did convert a lot of it to urea but it built up too much and some remained as ammonia and then her kidney failed from the urea? just wondering. i agree it seems a little unlikely that there that much ammonia airborne that it could make medical staff pass out.
@Kai-bx3ep
@Kai-bx3ep 2 жыл бұрын
damn bro super smort
@stevepalpatine2828
@stevepalpatine2828 2 жыл бұрын
What would happen if someone injected ammonia?
@BiggestAGFanEVER
@BiggestAGFanEVER 2 жыл бұрын
I am in nursing school and in the beginning when you were telling the story the first thing that popped into my head was ketoacidosis. All of the signs and symptoms match up perfectly with it.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me
@weber9320
@weber9320 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say if gout exists than have a little to much ammonia to the point of nearing the official kill amount of ammonia will do anybody in requiring a gas mask. Farmers fall to the same deadly gas
@treyshawnee
@treyshawnee 4 ай бұрын
As a chemist, ketoacidosis was what came to mind for me.
@voxicore
@voxicore 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this in such depth. I've seen several other KZfaqrs cover this subject and nowhere do they mention she had cancer - which is a pretty damn big thing!
@SerafinaCastaway
@SerafinaCastaway 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the story because it fascinates me and has since I was a teen (My mom refuses to mix medications/herbal remedies without express medical permission. When I asked why, she pointed me to the story of the “garlic lady”), stayed for the callout on the sexism behind mass hysteria.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. Жыл бұрын
Yes, your mom is right. Don't mix anything herbal/medical without your doctor knowing because they could interact or could even counteract each other. It's not worth the risk (especially since many herbal remedies are not regulated and you don't really know what you are getting or what dose).
@moopox
@moopox 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how this channel isn’t bigger, it’s so interesting and well presented
@persephone2706
@persephone2706 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@renatalovinglife6734
@renatalovinglife6734 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss everything about it is perfect!
@jessieqk12
@jessieqk12 2 жыл бұрын
He only has two notable videos. They got a lot of views, one having 1.5M views in only a few months. I would say that’s pretty big.
@fresanegra77
@fresanegra77 2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm mayb
@purracle
@purracle 3 жыл бұрын
How is this a small channel? I've watched a few videos now and the quality of the editing, commentary and analysis is phenomenal! The way you present this case is engaging and informative. I hope you get more views soon, you deserve it! 😊
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I put a lot of time and effort into my videos so that really means a lot
@Unmentionabl
@Unmentionabl 25 күн бұрын
​@@PeakedInterest you've earned it. 👏
@alicesmith7913
@alicesmith7913 2 жыл бұрын
My Mother was diagnosed with terminal Liver Cancer, around a week before her death, I could literally smell the stench of death as it consumed her. It is a unforgettable, unforgiving odor that, once you smell it, it's no mistaking what it is.
@littlefella2449
@littlefella2449 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. My dad had terminal cancer in his face. The worse he got the stronger the smell became. I don’t think I’ve ever had such a sensory experience that has stuck with me quite like that smell. I will never forget when I visited him about a month before he died, the smell was overwhelming. I still almost get a sort of phantom smell, it literally send chills through me every time. Unfortunately I don’t think I will every be able to fully forget that smell. Also, I’m so so sorry you also had to experience that. If nothing else I’m thankful that both of our parents can be at peace from that suffering now.
@alicesmith7913
@alicesmith7913 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlefella2449 Thank you for your kind words. I to am sorry for what you experienced with your dad. Although the smell of dying can be horrid, I am so thankful for the opportunity to spend those last days with her.
@misamisa2677
@misamisa2677 2 жыл бұрын
cm
@skye6949
@skye6949 2 жыл бұрын
You can't smell "death" until after a person dies and the body begins to decompose. What you were smelling was the increase in toxins in her body because her liver failed to filter them.
@erayburn6354
@erayburn6354 2 жыл бұрын
This is THE single most detailed & informative video documentary I've seen with regard to this case. You've done an amazing job explaining chemical reactions to those who may not have a comprehensive chemistry background. I now have a much better & more thorough understanding of the events surrounding this poor woman's death. Still, the fact that there's been no official, actual, concrete explanation provided as to a cause...is mindboggling. For all intents & purposes, however, I think your explanation sounds the most reasonable. Appreciate your work. You just earned a new subscriber.
@tzermonkey
@tzermonkey 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this story, but never the details. Just the "Toxic Lady."
@Radak1985
@Radak1985 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the ammonia theory, but has anyone looked into the cream combined with ammonia and the effects of that? I think it's both the cream and ammonia causing a reaction like bleach and ammonia
@hengineer
@hengineer 2 жыл бұрын
oxidizer and corrosives combining. chemistry.
@Nooneshereforever
@Nooneshereforever 2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine what Gloria went thorough if people were getting ill just from a tiny pinhole in the body!
@princessrawr7635
@princessrawr7635 2 жыл бұрын
I love the different styles to the first and second half. Super informative, I’m finding fairly easy to follow, and understand. Would absolutely love to see more of this style content. Though I can appreciate the amount of time and effort that must go into each one!
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 2 жыл бұрын
My wife is an ICU nurse and she has the worst eating habits. They work for entire 12 hour shifts without a break sometimes. Glucose levels get low fast.
@GabeDoppel
@GabeDoppel 3 жыл бұрын
huge fan of the true stories. keep it up, man!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. There will be more
@TheCeilingIsLava
@TheCeilingIsLava 2 жыл бұрын
Very well researched and presented. I’d always been curious about this case and you broke it down beautifully. Thanks for your work.
@thegammagamer3776
@thegammagamer3776 2 жыл бұрын
That transition from the dark camp fire to the blinding white powerpoint page definitely caused a "burning sensation in the face". It still kinda hurts... Thanks for that. :(
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that, I'll keep that in mind for the future.
@thegammagamer3776
@thegammagamer3776 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeakedInterest Thanks. I'll look forward to that.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. Always feel free to give feedback I'll try incorporate it into future videos
@Nardzz019
@Nardzz019 3 жыл бұрын
Dude these videos are such high quality, i couldn't believe when i saw that you only had 13k subscribers. Keep doing these videos and youll get to the top.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@trash_bender420
@trash_bender420 2 жыл бұрын
My new favorite thing is coming upon such high-quality documentaries / storytelling type channels like yours, definitely following your page!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That's very kind
@madiicantsleep
@madiicantsleep 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your channel for a while, and it's insane to me that you're still under 100k. the quality of your videos is so much better than anything on TV. you obviously do an incredible amount of research on these topics to get this level of detail in each video. I (and LOTS of other people) appreciate your content so much and admire your skill and intelligence.
@ninaaraneta
@ninaaraneta 2 жыл бұрын
this is really well made! No BS, no unnecessary commentary, just pure logic and analysis. I live near riverside and this case always spooked me out
@tttiiaa
@tttiiaa 3 жыл бұрын
You do really nice deep dives on interesting topics, keep up the great work! I don't see much to improve on, you're going to grow big sooner or later. :) Looking forward to future videos!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. That's very kind, but there are always ways to improve and do things differently.
@dazed_slowpoke104
@dazed_slowpoke104 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like when stuff like this happens professionals need to look more into this so that we can take the necessary procautions to avoid this ever happening again.
@fiffihoneyblossom5891
@fiffihoneyblossom5891 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone who goes into the chemistry or reasons behind this event. Everyone else who I have found that covered this gave it 5 minutes, told a creepy story and left it at that. Without bothering to delve into the reasons behind it
@pblackbird
@pblackbird 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I have one point of contention. Having worked with equines that have been treated with large amounts of DMSO, I can tell you that you absolutely CAN smell that stomach turning chemical/garlic odor before you come into physical contact with the substance. Your nose will tell you a horse is on a DMSO treatment regimen the moment you walk into the barn. A veterinarian explained that DMSO is a solvent that permeates tissue, so as it is carried through the body the lungs emit and aerosolize the compound as a the horse exhales. I am a layperson, so I don't profess to understand how this works, that being said, I know you can smell DSMO. It gives me the heaves!
@giovannapires5659
@giovannapires5659 3 жыл бұрын
I never saw a youtube video this well edited in my entire life! Hope your channel grows fast, you deserve success
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, there are ones with better editing than mine but I always strive to do things better or different with each video.
@YuriMuff
@YuriMuff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including the information about how hysteria was used to silence women back in the day. Appreciate you doing that.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 2 жыл бұрын
Holly sh*t your channel is amazing. This content is amazing. Your ability to break down chemistry and science and being open minded and still scientific about things, is rare and I very much appreciate it. Not many people can balance that fine line without going too far in one direction. I subscribed right away after watching this. Just the delivery and depth you went into I respect a ton.
@EmilyElizabethxox
@EmilyElizabethxox 2 жыл бұрын
I loved how you wrapped this up at the end. Fantastic video on so many levels, thanks and subbed.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for kind words and the vote of confidence. There's a few more true stories on the channel in a true story playlist.
@MyCatInABox
@MyCatInABox 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, man. You've got some great stuff... (As soon as I get employed again, I WILL be a proud Patreon member.)
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Well thank you, that would be very flattering and I genuinely appreciate that. I try my best to make an interesting and engaging video without using misinformation. Its always nice to hear I've managed to do that
@minacapella8319
@minacapella8319 2 жыл бұрын
This case is on my mind quite often. Glad to see an in depth analysis. It's such a bizarre case and I always wonder if there will ever be another
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
It was definitely a strange case and interesting to examine
@lotharsoran3604
@lotharsoran3604 2 жыл бұрын
I have just come from the Oushi video. I appreciate your calm and measured presentation style. It is informative, and thought provoking, I will be subscribing as it has impressed me. The lack of sensationalism or hyping up the drama is appreciated. Obviously some kind of chemical combination or interaction of the cells from cancer have produced some kind of chemical or toxic gas substance. Then it dissipated. Perhaps Gloria was exposed to some kind of chemicals over a period of time, or a form of radiation.
@Johnnybravo40
@Johnnybravo40 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 9 months as a dialysis technician and my first thought was the toxic buildup in her tissue explaining basically everything from Gloria. The toxic waste is stored in intramuscular fluid and the bodies cells primarily, while also flowing in the bloodstream. ESRD (end stage renal disease) causes massive fluid buildups in the bodies that primarily pools to the legs and feet, when doing dialysis removing water is the majority of the treatment, it is no less important than removing the wastes like phosphorus and nitrogen. During treatment we monitor changes in blood volume to estimate how much water we have removed. This is done by testing conductivity of the waste water and works because of a coincidence where sodium and urea have almost the same molecular volume so they are assumed to have equal diffusion across the dialyzer membrane (dialyzer is the filter used to remove toxic waste from the blood, it is pressurized to remove the toxins via reverse osmosis). I am simply pointing that out because the wastes and water is not just in the blood, there isn't nearly enough room for all of that in the blood and she could have also had some of that liquid waste buildup seeping through her skin or coming out in sweat. It is extremely important to note that a regular nurse or doctor does NOT have training and knowledge in kidney failure, it is a highly specialized part of medical care and there is not any school program for it. All the training I got came from the company I worked for, and every employee had to do it, from tech to nurse, nutritionist, all the way up to the doctors. We were all lumped together in the same in company classes. Hospitals are also equipped with specialists for kidney related issues, and they are contracted through a kidney care company like mine and not employed by the hospital itself. I am pointing this out because it would be expected for a general ER doctor and nurses to not know what was going on, other than her simply having kidney failure (they wouldn't know the intimate details of what chronic end stage kidney failure entails, they would only be familiar with basic acute kidney failure so that they could recognize it then send that person to a specialist). For the average kidney failure person they would not know they had kidney failure, they would go into the hospital, very sick and dying and not knowing why. Doctors would figure it out based on a blood test, put in a catheter, then send them to kidney care technicians in hospital, and discharge them to a kidney care clinic (like where I worked). There were constant issues with communication between hospital care takers and our clinic, they would do things that while fine for a normal patient, could kill a patient with kidney failure and hospital staff had no idea. For example if someone had diabetes it is common to give them something like orange juice to raise blood sugar if it was low. This however could kill a patient who has both diabetes and kidney failure (which is extremely common as most kidney failure is caused by untreated or improperly treated diabetes) this happens because the juice is high in potassium which their body cannot filter out. Anyways on to hysteria, given that it is expected that the doctors/nurses would be mystified by this (which people seem to have been thinking otherwise), it is absolutely reasonable to anticipate the hysteria, in the manner you described in your theory version, for a couple staff after seeing a doctor pass out. And I say that as someone who is prior military and majored in neuroscience in school. Even trained professionals can mentally break down and can do so in what would otherwise be ordinary experiences. Seeing leadership pass out would have caused them massive distress, couple that with lack of food and confusion, I would honestly expect at least one person to drop in that situation, considering the number of staff involved. The same would happen in the military in a synonymous situation. Sorry for the long comment, I wasn't expecting it to be so long but I thought you would appreciate the input, although you seem fairly versed in the science involved.
@whiteyfisk9769
@whiteyfisk9769 Жыл бұрын
My God dude, use the freaking paragraph key!!
@Bongobongobongobongo
@Bongobongobongobongo Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, ever heard of the “enter” or “return”button?
@be.A.b
@be.A.b Жыл бұрын
Yea but how would one explain the measurable physiological effects that some experience, like decreased bone density?
@user-dh4rd5ot1i
@user-dh4rd5ot1i 7 ай бұрын
I actually wondered exactly WHY professional doctors and nurses would be unable to recognize kidney failure symptoms. I still not not believe the mass hysteria though. I think it was physical reactions for sure.
@ZentaBon
@ZentaBon 3 жыл бұрын
NEED MORE OF THESE! Your videos are so interesting
@sukita3146
@sukita3146 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use pure DMSO in the lab, and it really does have a weird garlicky smell. You can smell it from the otherside of the room when someone opens a bottle. And, yes, it's not toxic in and of itself, but it is used to deliver dissolved chemicals to the body because it is very good at penetrating the skin. I believe it's used as a solent to introduce chemicals into the body and is used in some chemotherapy methods. Just my two cents.
@bogeydope3022
@bogeydope3022 Жыл бұрын
The garlicky smell is only evolving in the sweat of the patient using it. Nearly pure DMSO alone is odorless.
@rikmcdik6662
@rikmcdik6662 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my all time favorite medical mysteries. Being on the medical staff during that night must have been crazy.
@gaelicsmurf8742
@gaelicsmurf8742 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video, this case fascinates me and this is one of the best videos I've seen on it. Thank you
@Feenix102
@Feenix102 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. One thing that I would ask, that maybe you could answer - the chemo that the woman was having, if she was indeed receiving any. Could the chemicals used in chemotherapy, mixed with the toxic build up in her body have had any effect? Not that this would be necessary of course for your theory (which I consider to be brilliant, frankly) to be true, its just something that occurs to me. Brilliant work.
@MrCeleryMonster
@MrCeleryMonster 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by this case and always wondered if ketoacidosis was involved but didn't have enough confidence in my medical knowledge to discuss the theory with anyone. After hearing your thorough explanation, I feel validated AND learned something new! You definitely have a new subscriber!
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you. Learning and critical thinking is kind of what I try to encourage so I think you made a good choice
@AnnalieseMazzuchelli
@AnnalieseMazzuchelli 2 жыл бұрын
but were there ketones in her blood or urine?
@tairabanzu
@tairabanzu 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how this video is more in depth on the matter rather than telling it as a story and then tell their theory and quickly brush it off like old news. This video is alot more research and documents a lot more detail to figure out the who, what, what where, when and why.
@NotAGeologist154
@NotAGeologist154 4 ай бұрын
I’ve stumbled across your channel and watched numerous videos of yours. Excellent work my friend. I thoroughly enjoy your content and I will share it with my friends. Have a great new year.
@annaohare8263
@annaohare8263 2 жыл бұрын
Chemotoxicity, neurotoxity and keto acidosis could be a cascade effect 🤷‍♀️
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else pointed that out too, I think it's a good catch and very possible
@alexwilkins5309
@alexwilkins5309 2 жыл бұрын
Conversion disorder from what I've heard is often used as diagnosis when they dont actually know what's wrong. I think I seen 30- 50% of sufferers are misdiagnosed. I would guess part of why more women are diagnosed with this is because women are often not actually listened to by doctors. They probably have autoimmune diseases and are just diagnosed with conversion disorder cause the dr cant see a reason for symptoms and go "ah, it's all in your head." This little rant is not related to the video only cause it was brought up and I have a theory on why more women are diagnosed.
@gaygengar
@gaygengar Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. when they say "statistically more women experience conversion disorder", what i hear is "women are more likely to be DIAGNOSED with conversion disorder".
@Nyxatroid
@Nyxatroid Жыл бұрын
I was misdiagnosed with four different things including conversion disorder. Turns out, i have neurological Lyme disease and a bunch of co-infections. My symptoms have been neurological for almost 4 years now and the bacteria has to be in the body for about 5 years to become neurological- so- what i find, is that doctors will often just think inside their specialty and generalize complex symptoms to fit a condition they can diagnose regardless of if that is the actual cause or not. In the last few years, I had been to over 10 specialists to no avail. Also, the Lyme tests they use in offices don’t work! They had don’t 4 on me and all had false negatives. Why is this? Because they only detect the bacteria for Lyme (rather than that and/or some if the co-infections) and because it will only show a positive for Lyme 3 weeks after infection and no further. As a reminder, at that point i would have had Lyme for a minimum of 5 years. Even now I’m still chronically ill, although now i have a PICC line and IV and oral antibiotics. Moral of the story: people should keep looking for answers even after a idiopathic diagnosis, as often times the real cause can be found eventually.
@BG_NC
@BG_NC 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me so much of all of the medical mystery shows I watched growing up. Thank you for making this! Very interesting
@angelagreen3642
@angelagreen3642 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being kind while telling this lady's story. ♡
@m0thboy
@m0thboy 3 жыл бұрын
u deserve more recognition this videos are so goodd
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bigian4649
@bigian4649 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the algorithm picked you up, as I'm sure you're aware. Congratulations. Subscribed and eagerly awaiting more content in this vein.
@quillianluna4875
@quillianluna4875 2 жыл бұрын
Ive read before that electric current can cause ammonia to decompose - They defibrillated her prior to the exposure.
@jo-penford
@jo-penford 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel. So interesting. Love the fireside sounds🔥
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That setting had a really good response so I'm happy about that
@markherrera2014
@markherrera2014 2 жыл бұрын
Im from Riverside , and this is the first I heard about this! Keep up the good work
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. As a resident it might be an interesting thing to look into.
@RepentfollowJesus
@RepentfollowJesus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to have found your channel . Going to subscribe. I like the lack of paranormal. I'm a terrible perfectionist though ,and wanted to make you aware that you put Campire instead of Campfire right across the screen in case you would like to correct it. Thanks for covering these stories ! I wish you well with many more subscribers 😊
@tunemu9765
@tunemu9765 2 жыл бұрын
dude we're the only ones that saw that lmao
@ishouldntbesayingthisbecau1257
@ishouldntbesayingthisbecau1257 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing well put video. Definitely earned yourself a sub.
@PeakedInterest
@PeakedInterest 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@TheCousinEddie
@TheCousinEddie 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this case in the newspaper. It was a short article buried on the 8th or 9th page but I was fascinated, even though details were sparse. The next day the follow up article was even shorter but did identify the victim as Gloria Ramirez. I never found another piece of written information. It was like it never happened. Then about 10 years later, Unsolved Mysteries did a segment which was mostly a recap without much new information. Still, I was fascinated. At that time the internet was in it's infancy so a search of available information provided nothing new. Thank you for creating this episode as this story still fascinates me. The answers lie within Gloria's tissues, I'm certain of that. I'm hoping that there are surviving samples stored for safe-keeping until the truth is discovered. Such a bizarre incident! Add to that the staff were diagnosed with hysteria and things take a very sharp turn into conspiracy town. Thinking out loud here but I wonder if any of the researchers created computer models of her tissues.
@ludiprice
@ludiprice 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're spot on with your hypothesis! The mass hysteria theory never sat well with me; but then I could never work out why it was only a few of the people who worked on her that suffered those strange effects. Your theory pretty much covers all the questions I had. Bravo!
@JesusGreenBL
@JesusGreenBL 2 жыл бұрын
I actually do buy the possibility of the DMSO theory, but not because of Dimethyl Sulfone or Dimethyl Sulfate. There's one more compound that fits the bill a lot better: DMS, or Dimethyl Sulfide. DMS is one of the metabolites of DMSO, so if someone were to consume or be exposed to a large amount of DMSO, much of it would turn into DMS. Unlike Dimethyl Sulfone, DMS, which has a boiling point the same temperature as blood, is excreted via the breath, as a vapour, which is why DMS exposure actually /does/ cause the breath to smell like garlic. DMS vapour exposure's common symptoms are: nausea, vomiting, skin irritation, breathing difficulties, and even loss of consciousness. Reading over the case it honestly sounds like the original people investigating weren't even aware of this. The available information says they literally looked through the Merck index to try to track down a possible similar compound, and settled on Dimethyl Sulfate because most but not all of the symptoms fit.
@lizc6393
@lizc6393 2 жыл бұрын
You would think someone would have asked her next of kin about some of this...
@tummyfungus
@tummyfungus 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@Phoenix____
@Phoenix____ 2 жыл бұрын
you are on point, simple and elegant in your explanation ... well done
@dougreece9834
@dougreece9834 2 жыл бұрын
Good writing, clear easy to understand narration and nice volume balance with the sound track. I don't know if I completely subscribe to your theories about what happened but I have no better theories of my own. This is an excellent production and a most entertaining documentary. I look forward to viewing more of your work.
@hughgordon6435
@hughgordon6435 2 жыл бұрын
How about the defibrillator? The current invoked a chemical reaction??? The bloods were not taken until after she was shocked??
@volodumurkalunyak4651
@volodumurkalunyak4651 2 жыл бұрын
Defibrilator drives a tiny anount of charge throught body, not enought to worry about electochemistry doing chemical reactions
@tonkysue207
@tonkysue207 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Gloria.how frightening for staff.
@Sunsetradi0
@Sunsetradi0 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about this case for years It's super interesting to see your hypothesis of what could have happened to her and to the staff, I liked the video
@xAdrianaRosasx
@xAdrianaRosasx 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time true crime/unsolved stories buff, I am quite enjoying your true story videos. Hope you keep making more!
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