Better Plugged-In Acoustic Guitar Sound Basics: Pickups, PA, Amps & All That Stuff - That Pedal Show

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That Pedal Show

That Pedal Show

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In this episode we delve into the world of amplified acoustic guitars. It’s a problem area for literally anyone who plays live with the ol’ flattop. Dan and I both do our fair share of acoustic gigs so we thought we’d start looking at some basics on the show.
We start off by reminding you what an acoustic guitar kinda/sorta sounds like with a mic in front of it, before heading into the world of plugging in via a PA system and/or acoustic guitar amplifier. We also take a brief look at a couple of ‘pedals’, more of which in part 2.
Apology time: I make THREE SCHOOLBOY ERRORS during the show (Mick here)…
I call the non-cutaway Martin a 000-18E. It is in fact an OM-18E - links below.
I explain that a piezo pickup is a piezo-electric transducer. And then like a total dumbass call it an electro-magnetic device. Which of course it isn’t. Piezo-electric transducers use pressure to create a current. Electro-magnetic pickups uses a magnet and a coil. Sorry - brain-fry!
I call the pickup system in the Martin guitars an LR Baggs Lyric. It is in fact an LR BAGGS ANTHEM (link below).
Apologies all round - brain trying to do too many things at once and I didn't have my Shreddies this morning.
Apart from all that, please enjoy the episode!
Pedals and amps in this episode…
• LR Baggs Align Series Session
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USA: imp.i114863.net/zMz9O
• LR Baggs Align Series Equalizer
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USA: imp.i114863.net/EB0vP
• LR Baggs Align Series Reverb
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2M7FcCU
USA: imp.i114863.net/nM4J6
• Orange Acoustic Pre
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Cw8trn
USA: imp.i114863.net/6jk5K
• AER Compact 60 III
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oNdi5O
• Mesa Boogie Rosette 300 Two:Eight
USA: imp.i114863.net/2DR9z
Guitars in this episode
• Martin OMC-28E (with LR Bags Anthem pickup)
www.martinguitar.com/guitars/...
• Martin OM-18E (with LR Bags Anthem pickup)
www.martinguitar.com/guitars/...
• Collings CJ35 (with K&K Pure Mini pickup)
www.collingsguitars.com/acous...
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Oh no - they’re singing! 0:00
- Hello! 3:00
- What are we doing today? 3:45
- What proportion of your gigs are acoustic? 4:20
- …because people like it! 5:51
- The sound of a mic’d acoustic guitar: 8:44
- … Martin OM-18E, OMC-28E and Collings CJ35
- Back in the room: 14:38
- Mick has no sense of humour about acoustic guitars: 15:02
- Are you reluctantly acoustic? 16:05
- Acoustic was nowhere in the 1980s: 16:45
- Plug in… and all the problems start: 18:00
- Oops, we accidentally bought a PA system: 19:14
- The sound of a nice pickup into a PA: 19:50
- …and an undersaddle straight into the PA: 20:59
- And that’s the sound of plugged-in acoustic guitar as we know it: 23:45
- More reluctant purchases: 25:30
- Mick’s acoustic sound, and what we’re not prepared to give up: 26:57
- LR Baggs Align Series: 31:15
- Orange Acoustic Pre Twin Channel: 34:11
- Phase and the acoustic guitar: 36:25
- Tangent time… 39:35
- …combine harvesters: 39;35
- …The Wurzels' sagely advice: 40:28
- Acoustic guitar pickup types: 41:50
- What about a microphone? 43:50
- And back to the program: 45:27
- Acoustic guitar amp - another reluctant purchase: 46:48
- Mick’s acoustic rig: AER Compact 60 3: 47:50
- Piezo pickups and tone ‘problems’: 54:30
- Mesa Boogie Rosette 300: 55:15
- Parametric mids explanation: 58:20
- Oh no, they’re jamming again: 1:00:02
- Acoustic guitar into an electric amp? 1:04:35 (1:05:55) (1:07:45)
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@MikeTaffet
@MikeTaffet 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing Dan and Mick actually performing together might have been the greatest That Pedal Show moment ever, and there’s been some epic moments.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Thank you kindly! Gives us great confidence for the band. We were worried people would think we were just being indulgent. Thank you.
@xxcelr8rs
@xxcelr8rs 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice surprise!
@chibisven
@chibisven 5 жыл бұрын
Friendly sound guy here, great show as usual and LOVE this topic because I can't tell you how many crap sounding acoustics I've run sound for. I'm not much of an acoustic player myself, but here's just some sound guy nuggets to enrich this guitar loving audience: - Acoustic amps are way better than wedges most of the time because the front surface of your acoustic resonates, and changing the location and angle of the stage sound putting a human body between the speaker and the guitar helps enormously. - cheap sounding pickups just can't be fixed at the board, but the good ones while kinda gross pre-eq can sound fantastic once they've been EQ'd. So far the best sounding direct sound I've ever heard came from a Mcpherson guitar played by a blue grass pro who's been playing longer than I've been alive. The worst sound is tied between Ovation and Ibanez (sorry) - The back side of speakers put out a ton of low end, so 99 times out of 100, I'm having to trim a bunch of low out of your signal to keep it from resonating into feedback, that's why it sounds so "thin" to you, and sorry but that's just the way it's gotta be - A feedback buster DOES have a negative effect on your guitar, but it's far less negative that howling feedback, so if you're playing in a loud situation or with a full band, plug that hole. - The number one sign for me of an acoustic player that's going to give me a good signal is walking in with one of those LR Baggs acoustic preamps, the one with the built in tuner and parametric EQ. I don't know why, but almost everyone who walks in with one of those just does a better job. - Play your strings harder than you think you should, it just makes everything sound better. I'm not saying full punk rock jackhammer, but put some heat on it when playing live. Hope that helps, or at least gives you a little more idea of how your sound guy is thinking.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that Sven - useful and enlightening!
@Texfire
@Texfire 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how I found the pedal show while searching for videos on amps and pedals, and I think I've learned almost as much about tips to help my sound board running. Thanks Sven, some nice pointers.
@juancblum6445
@juancblum6445 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for such a great advice. I am one of the nerdyes walking with LR Baggs preamp and my acoustic amp as my monitor. Always getting from the rest of the band --there is no need-- feel revindicated 📣😀
@jamjar20049
@jamjar20049 5 жыл бұрын
Sven, hi, having been dissatisfied with my cheap piezo equipped guitars for years I asked my bandmate how he got such a good sound with his Martin x series electro acoustic. It turns out that it's not the onboard preamp but a passive DI box between the guitar and PA. I tried it with my low budget acoustic and it works well, it now sounds like an acoustic when amplified. Perhaps this would work with the Ovation and Ibanez guitars too? Or did you do this already? Ian
@motorhed
@motorhed 5 жыл бұрын
as a sound engineer and musician myself, I fully support this! It's true, whenever I see LR Baggs, it's like and instant tell that the player is no schmuck lol
@smwatson1512
@smwatson1512 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show - The Album. Do it.
@colaboytje
@colaboytje 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Let's like this until they do it :-)
@redmcmannus
@redmcmannus 5 жыл бұрын
DO IT!!!!
@redmcmannus
@redmcmannus 5 жыл бұрын
DO IT!!!
@rasm0225
@rasm0225 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Album
@lionsdenblog
@lionsdenblog 5 жыл бұрын
rasm0225 Dude, I actually laughed out loud! Great stuff.
@PatFlanigan
@PatFlanigan 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show has officially become That "how to be a great gigging musician who's ready for anything" Show, and I love it!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Pat :)
@joelecho
@joelecho 5 жыл бұрын
I dig it! I love a good fuzz pedal, but I get so much more knew knowledge from these type of shows, and that carries over to live performances where I can take advantage of what I've learned. Amazingly valuable.
@YetAnotherWittyUserName
@YetAnotherWittyUserName 5 жыл бұрын
the perfect balance of helpful gigging advice and pure guitar nerdery
@lance134679
@lance134679 5 жыл бұрын
"Here Comes the Sun" is such a great song for two acoustic guitars - you get kind of a 12 string type sound with one capo'd up high. My friend and I jam that one often when we see each other. Good singing and playing! I know you guys sing all night at your gigs, so no surprise there. I can see why there are so many acoustic gigs - the bigger rooms with big, loud bands are currently diminishing. It seems that the big clubs all have house DJs and the 'real' music is in small places - restaurants, pubs, lounges, etc. That could be just in my little corner of the world, but our town is losing it's last 300 seat bar, which is where I had a house gig every Saturday.
@jeremyreed663
@jeremyreed663 5 жыл бұрын
Dan just showed exactly how to play with another person. As soon as Mick played a lead part in that last section of this, Dan backed off with a much simpler rhythm part. It didn’t take much space up in the mix and it made Mick sound awesome. I wish more musicians understood this!
@fishypaw
@fishypaw 5 жыл бұрын
Your voices go well together. I'd pay to see this cover band. :)
@ThePsprout
@ThePsprout 5 жыл бұрын
Alright fishy paw? Thought you might tell them that in Scotland "hen" means lassie ;-)
@fishypaw
@fishypaw 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man. lol, they probably know that already. How's your wonderful home made looper and pedal board? I hope your getting lots of good use out of them.
@ThePsprout
@ThePsprout 5 жыл бұрын
The board went through a radical downsize - less is more (controllable!).
@barneyharding
@barneyharding 5 жыл бұрын
As a regular (aren't we all!) viewer, I can't tell you how long I have been waiting for this!!!!!! More Acoustic stuff, please!.... as Mick says.... "people like it!"
@guitarandrewy
@guitarandrewy 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for doing this show! I plug my acoustic into a DI every Sunday (with a few pedals in between) and this has opened my eyes to some new gear. Love all your shows!
@benjaminthorpe7990
@benjaminthorpe7990 5 жыл бұрын
This is so relevant to me in my band right now that this has become such a perfectly timed release of a video. Thank you both for your deep exploration!
@DrBillOwen
@DrBillOwen 2 жыл бұрын
F Me. Here I am in Covid Iso, North of Sydney. My wrists ache from too much guitar, I'm a bottle of Hunter Shiraz in, I've watched ALL of KZfaq. And you guys have just made me smile so wide and so long that I feel like a new man. Thanks fellas!
@wangbadan8446
@wangbadan8446 2 ай бұрын
ive been playing the acoustic guitar live for 20 years. Through my journey i used a few different Preamps before (LR Baggs Para, AER, Firewood DI Japan) until i realised recently that I prefer just a normal DI Box (sometimes without DI) straight into the mixer. That way I rely more on my ears to bring out the most accurate, true-est sound of my acoustic guitar. I no longer wanna be spoilt by choices and options and i just wanted things simple.
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 5 жыл бұрын
If you are going to use a passive piezo, then you would do well to plug it into a very high impedance input, on the order of 5-10 Megaohms, like a Z.Vex Super Hard-On. Piezos have a very high characteristic impedance, and they improve greatly by plugging them into an appropriate impedance, rather than the usual 1 Megaohm of the average guitar amp or other audio gear. A Countryman Type 85 DI has an input impedance of 10 Megaohms.
@hectorgrande8000
@hectorgrande8000 2 жыл бұрын
Super hard-on? I don’t know if I would sound any better playing with one. I think it may be a little distracting but hey whatever works.
@aymericmarchand3472
@aymericmarchand3472 5 жыл бұрын
Well, as an insignificant part of the TPS audience, I love this!
@fretboardhustle4264
@fretboardhustle4264 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve watched the show for years and am just now discovering this video - so lovely to hear D&M singing and playing a George tune. Warms my heart. Thank you for your inspiration and for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us all for so long!
@MrHeliosoul
@MrHeliosoul 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful! Great cover! had no clue you guys did anything with acoustic guitars and I absolutely love it! I would definitely be interested in watching more shows on this topic.
@Cryanoutloud
@Cryanoutloud Жыл бұрын
A lovely detour from the norm seeing you guys perform together, well done ! I play regular acoustic gigs so im quite interested to see what wisdom i can absorb here; thanks for all your hard work guys!
@Brandontsmith85
@Brandontsmith85 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode. Really looking forward to part two. Gotta say, really enjoyed all of your playing here. There's definitely something about the dynamics of acoustics that just make a duo work so well. Also gotta say, that AER amp sounds GODLIKE. Never heard a plugged in acoustic sound THAT good.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brandon! It’s a super simple setup that just works. :0)
@adamandvanessawilson2654
@adamandvanessawilson2654 5 жыл бұрын
A couple of years ago, I was searching for “effects for acoustic guitar” on KZfaq, and I stumbled across your channel, then you guys helped me learn how to enter the electric guitar world. If you’re worried that your audience won’t like acoustic episodes, I can tell you that most worship leaders in the US play acoustic and are constantly wanting to improve their acoustic sound through a PA, or they’re wanting to transition to electric. Either way, you guys can make a show about almost anything and you’ll be helping someone out there. Keep up the good work!
@benhunter9612
@benhunter9612 Жыл бұрын
I like your show a lot. I genuinely had joy in my heart hearing you guys play those acoustics so lovingly! What a great episode!
@maxwarden4555
@maxwarden4555 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite electro-acoustic sound is actually a soundhole pickup into a clean, fender-y amp with loads of headroom. It's definitely not a typical acoustic sound, but it has a certain warmth and midrange to it that makes it a unique and completely usable sound that actually sits in a mix quite well! It's not gonna jump out at you, but it works great as a sort of bed for the other sounds to sit upon. Listen to The Tallest Man On Earth for some examples, he's a big fan of this sound and will even use it playing solo! Also, Elliott Smith was a big fan of passive soundhole pickups; except he would just plug into the mixer. I think he might've even recorded with one, but don't quote me on that
@MarkPritchardGuitar
@MarkPritchardGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
It's Friday, that means one thing....That Pedal Show!!!!!
@gwawd
@gwawd 5 жыл бұрын
Right on time! I'm currently exploring more pedal options for my acoustic. Thank you, guys!
@TheSwalden588
@TheSwalden588 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I can't tell you how much I needed this episode. Getting a good sound out of a good electric is so simple. But anytime to try to make an acoustic louder it sucks all the character out.
@jamesbaker9539
@jamesbaker9539 7 ай бұрын
Holy Cow! I came across this TPS episode while researching use of a compressor pedal with an acoustic guitar. I love hearing you two play and to hear you sing - Most Excellent Dan & Mick!!! As always, I come away from another of your presentations with new knowledge to improve my sound/tone. Best Regards, James
@applemanuk
@applemanuk 5 жыл бұрын
Love all the electric stuff but super pumped that you guys are covering off acoustic gear in this show. Awesome!
@kelvinburn7743
@kelvinburn7743 5 жыл бұрын
Just started an acoustic side project. This video is worth its weight in gold. Cheers
@klewis2048
@klewis2048 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the start to the show. Ultimately, I play music to be in a band, and to play with my friends, and for others, and this came across more strongly in the first 10 mins of this show than in any other one. before AER Compact 60. I have one of these brilliant tiny boxes. Dan's reaction to it was unexpected and delightful! Don't let the size deceive you, they are serious kit. I mostly use it for home rehearsal using my modelling pedalboards (Headrush, Amplifire) and backing vocals (SM58 clone). It's a perfectly formed compact mono PA system. Anyway, my next challenge is how to make an electric guitar sound like an acoustic for a tiny part in one song, through a modelling pedalboard into a PA, and this has given me inspiration. Thanks guys!
@merickel1
@merickel1 2 жыл бұрын
So, I've chewed up and spit out a plethora of acoustics and preamps. What I've learned. 1. Taylor ES system is not the greatest. Blind listen to just about any other pickup system and you will agree. 2. In just about any acoustic preamp and or pickup, the first thing to do is cut the mids down by at least 60%. 3. Micing an acoustic is always better than any pickup but not convenient in a gig environment. 4. Play before you buy. Dont take the reviews as gospel. Go to the store and tey it out! We gig professionally. My gear is as follows. Guitars - Martin GPCPA1 with fishman Aura. Martin D28 with K&K pure mini. Preamps- LR Baggs Venue DI. Fishman Aura Spectrum.
@samchoate1719
@samchoate1719 8 ай бұрын
Pure mini is a great pickup
@MythosSoundStudio
@MythosSoundStudio 5 жыл бұрын
Ok - the universe as we’ve known it has just imploded! Dan playing a Martin with a PRS strap, acoustic guitars on TPS, and this videos wasn’t blocked by the KZfaq police! LOL. Seriously, you guys do have to take the acoustic set on the road. It would be an amazing show.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Gibson strap on my Fender and a Fender strap on my Gibson. When worlds collide...
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
And a strap-on.. No. Stop there, Gilbert. Quit while ahead.
@IamPoppaGallo
@IamPoppaGallo 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great subject and I love the information I received from watching. My current acoustic rig starts with a Takamine EF261S AN & EC132SC then to an AER Compact 60/3 through an AER Pocket Tools Colorizer and Ernie Ball MVP Volume pedal. So far this setup is working for me.
@slash0abid
@slash0abid 6 күн бұрын
You guys are freaking awesome! Been watching your videos for years! Every time I need to learn about something, you folks have got my back. Thank you. :)
@johnballantyne3458
@johnballantyne3458 5 жыл бұрын
DAN!! You bloody, brilliant, bespectacled, bearded bugger!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
@MurrayWilliams
@MurrayWilliams 5 жыл бұрын
Once you do a gig with a great acoustic amp ... you will never go back. Ever. It allows you to play expressively and get away from the strummy-strummy. And if you use it as your monitor running vocals and guitar through it ... say good bye to being at the whims of a sound man. It is heaven. HEAVEN!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@stephenlennartz3466
@stephenlennartz3466 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! LOVE my Fishman amp. Bye bye sound guy. ; )
@ParaBellum2024
@ParaBellum2024 5 жыл бұрын
Which acoustic amp do you recommend Murray? I tried a Fender Acoustic 200 with guitar and vocal, and really liked it.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe my ears the first time I heard a proper, high-quality acoustic amp. I ran a Tele through it for THE clean Jazz guitar tone. And ofc, an acoustic. Alas, I can't remember the brand and it was super-expensive so I didn't end up buying it. Belongs to a mate who has a store in Sydney.
@billedwards2657
@billedwards2657 5 жыл бұрын
I mean.. in a more practical sense.. it’s a hell of a lot easier to lug one acoustic amp and throw a mic/cables in a backpack to go gig most bars/coffee shops. You can add a 400w powered speaker run from the output of the amp if you need more power, or go into a PA the venue has. If you’re doing acoustic/electric mixed gigs things change but for a solo or small group acoustic amps just win.
@yugiohllavaneras
@yugiohllavaneras 5 жыл бұрын
AWESOME episode guys. I’ve been waiting for this for a long time. I love electric guitar but must of my gigs tend to be on acoustic as you mentioned. Super informative as always :D PD: clean sounds Pt. 2 PLEASE 🙄
@heybuddy6794
@heybuddy6794 4 жыл бұрын
Aw man, love the tune at the beginning! Was awesome seeing you guys playing with the band on the Greg Koch episode, awesome seeing the concepts put into context/practice.
@camhaines5482
@camhaines5482 5 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen please welcome Dan and Mick Here - The Here Brothers! ........So sorry, I am a 52 year old father of 4 this is best I can do! Please don't block me. Great show.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
Dad jokes are the best jokes.
@whatwouldhousedo5136
@whatwouldhousedo5136 4 жыл бұрын
Could bill themselves as The Hear Brothers.
@colaboytje
@colaboytje 5 жыл бұрын
Make an album please, pretty please. Mick's voice is great, and Dan's harmonies are a perfect match.
@peterjmizzi
@peterjmizzi 5 жыл бұрын
I love my AER compact 60 so much I bought a second one and run in stereo. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I’ve even sang though it for a gig. They are awesome.
@saurfarming3772
@saurfarming3772 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you guys nailed it. I also play mostly acoustic live right now, but spend most of my time and money nerding on electric stuff. And also never considered an acoustic amp until now, that sounded so much better!
@DanEtch
@DanEtch 5 жыл бұрын
That look Dan gives Mick during the opening jam...❤️❤️❤️
@hoangseidel4114
@hoangseidel4114 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Etchells real bromance
@pedalhead2641
@pedalhead2641 5 жыл бұрын
Just some thoughts and ideas: 1. The AER sounds fantastic 2. That Acoustic Pedal Show on Tuesdays and the standard show on Fridays??? 3. Since I don’t play for audiences bigger than family, I find using the electric guitar modulation pedals (mix knobs set to full effect)and amp fun for a low volume stereo effect. Wonder if that becomes exponentially more complicated with trying to run an acoustic amp in stereo? Considering phasing and such. 4. It would be cool to expand your budget conscious acoustic guitar idea to the most purchased models from Martin, Taylor, and ... maybe Yamaha or Epiphone.
@Tanrichguy
@Tanrichguy 5 жыл бұрын
As a player that struggles with guitar in general and especially acoustic, I loved this show. Cheers!
@scottyvernon8471
@scottyvernon8471 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching you guys for years I’ve known the band you played in and played in, but I didn’t realize how great your vocals are! Nicely done guys !!!
@napalmhardcore
@napalmhardcore 5 жыл бұрын
YAAAAY! Paranoid Android! I'll finish watching the show now.
@zakriessen7564
@zakriessen7564 5 жыл бұрын
Dan and Mick should make an acoustic cover album. I'd buy it.
@douglackie3777
@douglackie3777 6 ай бұрын
I’m 44 and I picked up the guitar during Covid! Now I can not put it down! I should have started a long time ago! But now I am determined to get as good as you guys one day! There is something about acoustic guitars! Keep up the great work!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 ай бұрын
Great stuff Doug 🤓👍
@peterhall4852
@peterhall4852 4 ай бұрын
Resonator next😅
@chrislocke9157
@chrislocke9157 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best shows in a while, excellent job and some beautiful plaything. Thank you.
@jhnlk
@jhnlk 5 жыл бұрын
There's something spectacular about Dan playing an acoustic while wearing an all you need is fuzz t-shirt.
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black 2 жыл бұрын
I use fuzz with acoustic all the time. But, then again... I'm an idiot. 😅🤣
@jamesgoddin8880
@jamesgoddin8880 5 жыл бұрын
I use an my old Trace Acoustic amp 99% of the time for exactly the reasons Mick states. My sound is available to the PA with no additional faff, plus I can monitor myself. Admittedly it doesn’t sound as good as that AER but it certainly beats any direct-to-PA sound Ive ever achieved. I’d say it sounds better than the Mesa though. If I can earn the thick end of £900 through gigs I may consider upgrading to an AER.
@ezumach
@ezumach 18 күн бұрын
How wonderful to hear a cover song on KZfaq that isn’t absolutely saturated in autotune.
@HudsonHandel
@HudsonHandel 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorites. Can’t wait for part two.
@GitShiddy
@GitShiddy 5 жыл бұрын
"Whoops should have brought something cheap to test." If that isn't the That Pedal Show mantra by now I don't know what is! ;-) Look forward to part 2 just based off that brief moment with the pedals, that sounded proper good & seemed like the best option for a small footprint type acoustic rig, guitar, pedal a couple cables...rig in a case.
@shadowgolem9158
@shadowgolem9158 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that space makes such a great studio! Awesome balancing and mixing as usual of course. Thanks for doing this show! P.S. This is another "headphones needed" video. You'll not hear much difference on a phone or smallish computer speaker.
@MegaAnt79
@MegaAnt79 5 жыл бұрын
I've played electric guitar on and off since I was 11 years old and now I'm nearly 40, I all that time I've never owned and acoustic guitar but have been thinking about it a lot recently. As always you seemed to have read my mind. Thanks guys another super show. 👍🎸
@simonwilliams9916
@simonwilliams9916 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully played and sung. What a pleasure it is to hear singing and the sight of two right hands playing in unison. 👍🤘🏻🎸👍🤘🏻🎸😁😁
@cedarbay3994
@cedarbay3994 5 жыл бұрын
That fancy-pants cutaway Martin sounds delightful The boys here show how to do two acoustics at the same time: one guy should always capo and play differently voiced chords--two dudes banging out open position cowboy chords all night is lazy and boring.
@jamisonbebiak7917
@jamisonbebiak7917 5 жыл бұрын
Just gonna point out you used the words "Two dudes, Banging, Open, Position, and Cowboy" all in the same sentence.
@russheath15
@russheath15 5 жыл бұрын
Cedar Bay Wasn’t there a film about two cowboys banging? Just saying not seen it myself......
@cedarbay3994
@cedarbay3994 5 жыл бұрын
Jamison Bebiak 😂
@BrentCasavant
@BrentCasavant 5 жыл бұрын
And all the sound techs said "Amen".
@StratmanJerry
@StratmanJerry 5 жыл бұрын
Capos are pretty boring too with that logic seeing as how you usually are playing cowboy cords using a capo
@adamfstewart81
@adamfstewart81 5 жыл бұрын
Really really REALLY nice job on the intro!
@adambrennen7215
@adambrennen7215 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh! (A huge sigh of pleasure.) I am primarily an acoustic player but freaking love this show. I have made the switch to electric and am learning, but this was a great episode even for me. Thanks for doing this guys!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam. So glad you enjoy the show!
@wrap-itsolutions2387
@wrap-itsolutions2387 5 жыл бұрын
Wow .... I just finished watching an interview with Paul McCartney and then tuned into this ... Well done guys!!
@gilmouring
@gilmouring 5 жыл бұрын
Friday is always better if you're working half (thanks God today I am) and if you watch TPS. Epic performance at the beginning.. As other said Mary Spender would have been a great addition, but, nevertheless that was great.
@VojtaHanak
@VojtaHanak 5 жыл бұрын
Accoustics are great topic for you especially considering your insight. I am hoping for part on the "work needed to be done at mixing console". Can you see into that for a bit - eq, compression, etc.. What can a sound guy do to make accoustic sound nice (especially whet there are more of them). I would appreciate that because i am being on both sides of the PA.
@TheDarinAmes
@TheDarinAmes 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Guys! I, too, have been doing a ton of acoustic gigs lately and am currently putting together an acoustic-specific board. I also use the AER Compact 60/3 and love it. I'm playing a Martin 000-42 with the Baggs Anthem system and it sounds killer. Can't wait to see part 2! One thing I’ve found VERY useful... using a soundhole plug to allow for high volume without feedback. I highly recommend this to anyone playing in a band setting or even a duo with a drummer.
@adamf5541
@adamf5541 5 жыл бұрын
OK firstly APPLAUSE!!! I swear I tear up every time you two play together - its just magic guys. Whatever comes after this intro is just a lovely bonus.
@stevemaass3074
@stevemaass3074 5 жыл бұрын
That was FANTASTIC. Who knew Mick had such a great singing voice? (Probably lots of people, but that was the first time I heard him singing the lead part.) Fine harmony by Daniel. Bravo!
@lowdefal6306
@lowdefal6306 5 жыл бұрын
He did a great Andertons video with Pete where he sang in a pub garden. Did Shake it Off iirc.
@DWKraft
@DWKraft 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. For anyone else interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rt17qtGYzJibeHU.html
@scottcollier9178
@scottcollier9178 5 жыл бұрын
Acoustic in to a Roland Cube, job done! 😉
@joelecho
@joelecho 5 жыл бұрын
A very big thank you for taking on this topic, gents. As a songwriter, and a guy in a band, I love what acoustic can do for a song, even as a smaller part of a huge rock sound at times, but have always struggled with getting it to sound good enough to justify using it live over a clean electric. For big events I'll rent one with a much better pickup, but it's still not the same. This, and the follow up episode, are such useful information. And this from a guy who plays electric 95% of the time, and has a board with 15+ pedals on it. I think many of us wanted to know more about this stuff WAY more than you thought we would. If my acoustic could sound as good on stage as it did in the house, I'd consider myself more of an acoustic player.
@brianpateman2666
@brianpateman2666 5 жыл бұрын
Best TPS for a while - looking forward to Part 2. The whole thing with acoustic amplification is that you have what you have in terms of output and any adjustment needs to be done early in the signal chain. As the immortal Scotty said "You canna change the laws of physics cap'n"
@bellachi9575
@bellachi9575 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking for acoustic players everywhere, THANK YOU! very informative show. You guys are great.
@sethbecker4542
@sethbecker4542 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a show on “mic simulation” pedals and preamps. I have been playing in a folk rock band for years and have been using the fishman Aura Spectrum DI and the mic blend on it has given me the best plugged in sound I’ve ever had, and has become quite a standard among professional players.
@vadlasletta
@vadlasletta 5 жыл бұрын
Seth Becker same here
@dgtlpmp247
@dgtlpmp247 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing an acoustic episode. This topic has been rattling around in my mind for a while now, so I cannot wait to see what you guys do in the next episode! Also, the opening song was absolutely incredible! Your voices compliment each other nicely and your talents never cease to amaze me. Impressive!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jerod - very kind of you to say!
@benchan32
@benchan32 5 жыл бұрын
All I can say is FINALLY!!! 😍 I’m an acoustic performer only and I’ve spent 10 years forming my wet/dry/wet rig with my Blackwood Cole Clark that blends a piezo, condenser and transducer for the dry and a fishman black stack hunbucker soundhole pick up into my pedal board including stacked o/d and modulations into an ac30/Roland ac60 acoustic amp/68 reissue Princeton reverb. The devil is in the details for acoustic and I’m so happy you mentioned about the utilities making the difference. Keep it up fellas I loved this episode!!! #LifeLongSubscriber 😍😍😍
@nickfit3
@nickfit3 5 жыл бұрын
Tech 21 has an acoustic d.i. that has been around for a long time. Check it out.
@WutipongWongsakuldej
@WutipongWongsakuldej 5 жыл бұрын
Wow you guys can sing. I mean, really really well. It'd be interesting if you can do vocal processor pedal in the show as well :).
@Isaacelijahmusic
@Isaacelijahmusic 3 жыл бұрын
This sums up so much of my experience playing live with an acoustic guitar and all the challenges that come along with it. The right gear would have helped me out back when I really was doing gigs on a frequent basis. Now it’s whenever I have time so I like watching these videos and simply enjoying shaping the sounds and if I get to share them one day then awesome; if not that’s ok too. Great Video guys!
@scooter5005
@scooter5005 5 жыл бұрын
About 8 months ago I walked into the guitar center, plugged a new Guitar Center model d'Angelico acoustic guitar into a new Fender Twin. $400 and thousands of air miles later that guitar still sound wonderful!
@joeyramonelookalike
@joeyramonelookalike 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid!! I don't know if you answered this somewhere else but here goes a question: Will a good acoustic amp compensate for a cheap acoustic guitar??
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Depends, if it’s a cheap guitar but you love playing it you might consider a pick up upgrade
@Purple_Pixel
@Purple_Pixel 3 жыл бұрын
Please do more acoustic stuff. Please.
@danclarke316
@danclarke316 5 жыл бұрын
good job guys learned alot as always . love when you go in depth with a subject.
@tony59able
@tony59able 11 ай бұрын
Awesome guys I’m made up. Asked to do a church gig and with not a lot of experience I took along my Taylor 310 with a K&K and my Marshal acoustic amp which went to the PA system in the church and bingo quite a good sound for a novice performer so yes I’m with you all the way on acoustic amps!
@GavinMcLeod
@GavinMcLeod 5 жыл бұрын
Boys, pack up the shed, take that act on the road!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
Ahaha!!! Thanks Gavin. About 10 people usually come to my gigs. Mick here. 50,000 come every week on here. :0)
@JDODify
@JDODify 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think you'd ever manage to get away with micing up an acoustic with condenser in your average pub gig? Or do you think it would just pick up way, way too much noise and feedback - I've never actually tried using a condenser in a live situation 'cos I've just assumed it would be a disaster.
@lucianodebenedictis6014
@lucianodebenedictis6014 5 жыл бұрын
I like that sound a lot, but the only example I remember is al di meola on stage, which probably means you have to be al di meola on stage
@Aleph_Null_Audio
@Aleph_Null_Audio 5 жыл бұрын
I've done it in coffee shops. You have to be very careful about mic placement in relation to the mains. It only worked when playing without stage monitors.
@nathansturgess92
@nathansturgess92 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve done it with an AT AE5400. It sounded great; however, it was a pain in the ass.
@JustinChampa
@JustinChampa 5 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing intro! Fantastic! More of that please! Random noodling is fine but tends to get stale after a while.
@jesseyasaitis9036
@jesseyasaitis9036 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Fender cd60, I once ran it into my Hughes and Kettner gm40h at rehearsal. The guys in the band we're amazed. Ive grown to love the sound of an acoustic through a tube amp.
@Handyandy747
@Handyandy747 5 жыл бұрын
Where are all the screaming teenage girls crashing the gates?
@mattburdock1734
@mattburdock1734 5 жыл бұрын
The building is too well soundproofed now, the girls can't find it!
@justinoneil6971
@justinoneil6971 5 жыл бұрын
They are on the roof. It’s not soundproof 😂
@Cyndaquills
@Cyndaquills 5 жыл бұрын
They are all here in the comment section mate!
@skypekai
@skypekai 5 жыл бұрын
Major rapeage
@jonlohrenz5446
@jonlohrenz5446 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always sworn by compressors on an acoustic pedalboard. Makes fingerpicking so much easier in a band setting. Something to touch on for part 2 perhaps?
@David_Miftar
@David_Miftar 5 жыл бұрын
Super dope and massively interesting. Looking forward to part 2. You guys both play fantastic and awesome vocals. Much love from Miami 🌴👌
@stevendobias2960
@stevendobias2960 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh love the intro - classic Beatles and you guys did so well. Cheers guys!
@Massimiliano2873
@Massimiliano2873 5 жыл бұрын
Senses working overtime.... at 30:35! What a class! Thank Youuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!
@peckermusic
@peckermusic 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes! Great riff. C'mon Dan get your mate Dave Gregory on - please!
@benjaminvictor4996
@benjaminvictor4996 5 жыл бұрын
Live singing on an acoustic is always a mystical experience. It transcends time and harkens back millennia to our analog beginnings.
@chrisdrake447
@chrisdrake447 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently not when I’m playing & singing it doesn’t ... so cruel ...
@jammyjay2003
@jammyjay2003 5 жыл бұрын
I'm having a pretty stressful/annoying day, but this intro brightened it up. Thanks Dan & Mick :)
@TyRobertsmedia
@TyRobertsmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Refreshing... and very educational. I play 1 out of 4 gigs a month with my acoustic. I use a Fishman Aura pedal through a small personal stage monitor (that isn't brown)... can't wait to see what you've got coming in the pedals-for-acoustic show. BTW: Love the AER Compact 60 - wow...
@elonmush4793
@elonmush4793 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely intro performance! What's your stage name? D&M Live? Dan and the Micks? That Pedal Stompers?
@jamiebarr8781
@jamiebarr8781 5 жыл бұрын
The Schwangrila's
@MarkArtyniuk
@MarkArtyniuk 5 жыл бұрын
TPS Tangents! :)
@LivingDeadPunker
@LivingDeadPunker 5 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Band
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
The Pedallin' Pimps
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 жыл бұрын
YEAH BABY! ft. Notorious D & M
@baronvonmarlon1
@baronvonmarlon1 5 жыл бұрын
I play in an acoustic two piece. I hated gigging until because our lovely sound we honed in our living rooms disappeared the second we plugged in. In the end we threw caution to the wind and just decided to one-mic the act (single condensor) and it's the best thing we've ever done. Not only does it sound lovely, you get to use mic technique; and because you're slightly quieter, the audience shuts up and engages with you. I know it's not possible for all setups but I will never go back to plugging in.
@DavidDyte1969
@DavidDyte1969 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, wow. One of my all time favorite songs right at the start. Thank you!!!
@chrisptessier
@chrisptessier 5 жыл бұрын
My first time leaving a comment....Great show guys! I have been waiting for this one. As an acoustic player, feel as though this has been underserved. I could listening to you guys strumming, and swapping acoustic licks all day. Can't wait for the album!
@wolfqueenjubilee
@wolfqueenjubilee 5 жыл бұрын
As a nonbinary person I feel like I just got a big hug with y'all mentioning folks like me!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 5 жыл бұрын
That’s great, thank you! Here’s one right back to you. :0)
@wgb01001
@wgb01001 5 жыл бұрын
Really wanted you two to break into “Can’t Find My Way Home” at the end there...
@jerryyeaaah15
@jerryyeaaah15 4 жыл бұрын
yEs!!
@glisteningkabana8154
@glisteningkabana8154 5 жыл бұрын
A big thanks for this! Working towards acoustic gigs in the near future. Have a good one!
@Upfrontthrowbackcontent
@Upfrontthrowbackcontent 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Paul Jackson, Jr. Instructional Guitar Video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frt0dMelz5moZ5c.html
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