That Pedal Show - Beyond The Klon Centaur: Tumnus Deluxe, Oxblood, Manticore and Sick As Overdrives
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In this episode we revisit that near-mythical beast of tone, the Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive. Beloved of many professional players and enthusiasts alike, there is no doubt that it is a unique design and inspired a whole generation of overdrive pedals, particularly after official production was ceased in the early/mid 2000s.
As 2017 draws to a close (when we filmed this video) it’s clear that you can achieve something all-but identical to the Centaur’s tone and feel via any number of clones, remakes and inspired-by pedals. We’ve made a video or two about that in the past. However…
This video is not primarily about which of these pedals sounds most like the Centaur. It’s about what comes next: what tweaks and features address some of the common criticisms levelled at the Centaur, while still maintaining that unmistakeable tone and feel. Thus we have a smattering of recent offerings, notably the Wampler Tumnus Deluxe released very recently. The small-box Tumnus has been phenomenally popular for Brian Wampler’s company, so they’ve added features and evolved it into a Deluxe model. And of course, there are a handful of others to consider too.
Let’s get all post-Klon then shall we? Enjoy the video…
Pedals in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• D’Addario Pedal Tuner
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tIN4lD
USA: bit.ly/3IRrhPE
Australia: bit.ly/2tfHqHN
• Klon Centaur
No longer available new
• ProAnalog Devices Manticore
www.proanalogdevices.com/
• Keeley Oxblood
UK & Europe:bit.ly/2CnTzPT
USA: bit.ly/3peFcYm
Australia: bit.ly/2jWnve1
• Wampler Tumnus
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2gclnLh
USA: bit.ly/3yJjLlu
Australia: bit.ly/2jWWsPO
• Wampler Tumnus Deluxe
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2AKx1eG
USA: bit.ly/31S0qCo
Australia: bit.ly/2zwyfFn
• Bondi Effects Sick As Overdrive
Australia: bit.ly/2pgZFhA
• Crazy Tube Circuits White Whale
crazytubecircuits.com/white-w...
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 00:00
- What are we doing today? 1:55
- Today’s amps… and why we like the Klon Centaur: 2:54
- But what doesn’t it do? 5:35
- Today’s pedals: 5:35
- Yes, of course the Centaur’s resale prices are ridiculous: 7:50
- Pro Analog Devices Manticore…: 8:25
- …into Fender and Victory separately: 14:20
- Keeley Oxblood: 17:59
- Klon and Oxblood at higher gain: 27:30
- Tumnus & Tumnus Deluxe: 29:00
- Bondi Effects Sick As Overdrive: 36:08
- What do we think so far, and a lot more talking (yes, you can turn off now): 44:30
Amps in this episode
• Fender Super Reverb reissue with four Jensen P10R speakers
• Victory Sheriff 22 with Marshall 2061x 2x12 cabinet (Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2hhOUbV
Guitars in this episode
• Fender 60s Reverse Headstock Stratocaster: watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2BuMqMZ
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster: watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• PRS DGT Model: Watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2d8Xo2I
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard: watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dbwbvS
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@alexmasters23 3 жыл бұрын
What's very interesting to watch in the Tumnus/Tumnus Deluxe section is how Mick and Dan move the EQs on the Deluxe. According to Brian Wampler's video on the Tumnus Deluxe, if you want the Deluxe like the original Tumnus, put the bass and mids at 12 because they are active EQs and match the treble control because it's the same. And Dan ends up doing almost exactly that when A/B-ing the Deluxe and the original. As for comparing the Deluxe to the Klon, according to Wampler's manual online, to get the "Klon tone" you should roll off the bass to about 10 and put the mids and treble at around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="90">1:30</a>. Mick ends up doing almost exactly that. It's mind-blowing to see Dan and Mick do these exact things because they hear it (instead of scouring the internet for tone tips like me).
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thanks Alex. I guess it’s easier when you’re super familiar with the sounds of these things! Thanks for watching! Mick here. :0)
@alexmasters23 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow great work Mick! Thanks for all the videos and content.
@ChrisBuckGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
So no one told you life was gonna be this way, Your job's a joke, you're broke...but you've probably got a Tumnus Deluxe on the way!
@Birbdup 3 жыл бұрын
This was severely underrated Mr. Buck.
@TheFarout69 3 жыл бұрын
Who's got time for centaurs? I gotta rig a box for DB25 on the pedal board. No more TRS for me!
@PoorMansWhiskey 3 жыл бұрын
Fast forward 3 years and buying the real Klon😀!
@r4ttlech4n44 2 жыл бұрын
@@PoorMansWhiskey he totally did!!
@chrishepburn1503 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as Dan plugged in his tele I was thinking the exact same thing, "why does he plug in any other guitar". It blows me away everyime I hear it.
@bikramjeet2203 6 жыл бұрын
hey, I have a question for u.....can u make a video for non-guitar playing parents explaining to them what pedals are and why their as essential as water or food
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!!! What a brilliant idea. Thanks for watching!
@gigwrx1098 4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing for many years, and pedals are a way to expand the palett of sounds you can get from your guitar. I know this is an old post, but as a parent are you looking for info on pedals for beginner or intermediate players? I'd be happy to give my suggestions. Many of the pedals feature on this show are quite pricey and for experienced or professional players. Dan & Mick I LOVE your show! I think the basic essentials would make a great show!
@deanmlshredder 2 жыл бұрын
At first I was like. HELL YEAH! Been playin 20 year and I remember how it feels to stare at a piece of gear in a catalogue and it's even worse now with shows like this. Didn't have this in 2001. But then I got to thinkin. This kid's trying to get his parents to buy him a KLON!!! Get a job. 😜
@Braindoner101 2 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player, I’m still trying to figure out what some of the pedals do (reaching my one year anniversary in a few weeks)
@danielbell4007 Жыл бұрын
@@Braindoner101 I’m almost 20 years in, and yeah. It gets a little better… but I’m still finding new little nuggets.
@kevinpaulalbis7165 6 жыл бұрын
My wife bought me the Tumnus Deluxe for Christmas! Happy days!
@VintageRadius 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin, what do you think about the Tumnus Deluxe now that you’ve had a chance to get to know it? Anything you don’t really like? Also, I’ve heard that there is an issue in some with a popping noise when they are clicked on. I’m interested in buying one, looking for honest feedback
@rickc2102 4 жыл бұрын
@@bidensciownworidbroughttoy4218 Morning Glory's based on the Blues Breaker, not the Klon.
@BobJones-bh9qz 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky man
@JohnnyGuitaristOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@RickRomanelli 6 жыл бұрын
Everything about this show, whether it be the brilliant tones, the insight, the soulful playing, Dan's priceless emotional reactions, or Mick's unmatched Stratocaster tone , inspires me to plug in my guitar and play with the best tone I can muster. Thank you so much for making this your passion and for adding so much to my guitar rituals every week.
@mrc2662 6 жыл бұрын
Rick Romanelli great comments 👍
@rohadtanyad8908 6 жыл бұрын
the only thing that is too annoying is the ridiculous sexual tension between them. just get it on already.
@calebleger 6 жыл бұрын
Man I love how you can see the pure ecstasy in Dan's face when he plays. He is absolutely loving life every time he starts playing. That's what it's all about. Yet another great video fellas. I believe I'll be picking up a Tumnus in the near future. Seems to be the most versatile of the bunch to me.
@chipsterb4946 4 жыл бұрын
I got the Tumnus Deluxe a couple of weeks ago and watched this again. It’s great to hear you guys fiddling with the controls, different guitars and different styles. The Klon sound is cool through a clean Blackface amp, but I managed to find settings for a Tube Screamer in there too with a Tweed Princeton. Very versatile! Thanks for showing us how to get different sounds out of a given pedal. And Mick those riffs reminiscent of a couple of tunes off of Axis Bold As Love were extra tasty.
@andyreynolds5575 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished work in a very busy A&E dept, waiting for my car to de-frost whilst I watch this, just looked up and my windows have cleared in no time! The love that brings forth the rock also warms frozen cars up faster! Awesome video as always! Thank you 👍
@kyle_brenn 6 жыл бұрын
“Which one would you take home?” Correct answer: the original. You can sell it and buy all the others and a new guitar.
@freewheelin100 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Brenneman - Kyle Here, Our names sound the same. Okay my epic story is over, Cheers!
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Brenneman I'd take Miku home.
@paulcowart3174 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I sold my Klon for 1325 w no regrets
@AriesUmbra 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 regret
@squawk3120 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 how about now, 2 years later?
@pooh31180 6 жыл бұрын
I love the direction you took this episode. Not hoping that new pedals will sound like the classics, but taking new pedals that are in the same family as the classics and exploring how they push sound to a new level. Well done, gentlemen! Cheers!
@pinkiewerewolf 2 жыл бұрын
3 years after this video and I'm picking up a Tumnus Deluxe. I'm just a play at home dad. OK, I'm not a dad but I have a couple cats, so kinda like a dad... that annoys his cats while practicing. Love the show fellas!
@jordanpratt3821 2 жыл бұрын
lol I always think it's going to drive my cats crazy when I play, but it doesn't seem to bother them.
@pinkiewerewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanpratt3821 cats are a resilient species! 😂
@tonybrooks476 5 жыл бұрын
Always needs to be heard in Klontext!
@markrodriguez4105 6 жыл бұрын
Ceriatone Centura needs to make an appearance on That Pedal Show!
@eddlabel 6 жыл бұрын
I've had some of those but kept my small Tumnus for the size and awesomeness and recently exchanged my Sick As for an Oxblood Germanium which is amazing! Thanks for another tone lesson professors!
@plumbunrecords518 6 жыл бұрын
As many thumbs up as possible for the sound of that gold klon stacked with that dumble od special. Life changing tones, gentlemen!
@MrTDembinski 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Thank you gents. Motivated me to sit with my S500 and my Oxblood for the last couple of hours (along with my always on MS30 and an E Ball Exp OD pushing some swells).
@sega62s 4 жыл бұрын
What I like bout The Pedal Show is they know how to play and to show the nuances in pedals...they take the time to do a great job, and funny too🍻
@MrLoddebolten 6 жыл бұрын
Great show again guys! Loved your playing on the sick as Dan. You nailed it!
@jval4186 6 жыл бұрын
I wish more companies would replace the tone knobs and dip switches on their overdrives for a good old fashioned three band EQ.... Seymour Duncan 805, ,Xotic BB+
@mrc2662 6 жыл бұрын
Friday night in Hong Kong, glass of montepulciano in hand and these wonderful gentleman conveying all that’s great about the guitar. Sweet!
@josephdecker0 6 жыл бұрын
I watch you guys so much, I just got a ''that pedal show'' t-shirt as an early christmas present. Thanks so much, once again, for giving up your knowledge in the open forum. I've been wanting to see something like this for 30 years. Awesome!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and buying a shirt - makes a big difference to us. Glad you enjoy the show and find it useful!
@jdavis.fw303 6 жыл бұрын
When you guys were talking about the Oxblood and then talked about dialing in a sound on high vs. low gain it reminded me of a feature I wish more pedals had. Why don't they have a rough gain and a fine gain. The fine gain would change the sound less than a 1/8 of a turn on the rough gain so that you could more easily reach that sweet spot. Instead of trying to turn the one gain knob on so many pedals that ridiculously small turn between great and standard you would just get it close then tweak another full knob that changes the gain that 1-5%. Great video as always!!!!
@francisgori5631 6 жыл бұрын
Such great tones today guys- I’m a huge fan of Klon style sounds... and you nailed some gorgeous examples today! New Tumnus sounds ace, but the Manticore is really special... hell, there’s something special to be found in each one of these....... just magic.
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Francis - glad you enjoyed it!
@nicksburson1 6 жыл бұрын
Random comment: my son was born 3 week back and every since I have been watching heaps of that pedal show, every time its on he falls straight to sleep. it's great
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to the family Burson! Soothing tones. :9)
@burninglcd 5 жыл бұрын
I tried sanding a bit of finish off the neck and maple fretboard of my MIM tele, and let me tell you, it is absolutely worth it. Thanks for the idea Mick!
@irabucha8963 6 жыл бұрын
I'll make a nonsense comment again. So glad to open youtube and see TPS have a new episode!!! It's like have Christmas twice a week!!!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray!
@gregcharles999 6 жыл бұрын
I never had a klon style pedal so i went out and got the tumnes since i couldn't wait for the manticore and its blows me away, that's how i always wanted my amp to sound. such a good feeling playing with it on all the time and throw a treble booster in front of it for a singing solo, wow! goes great before my KOT also. Great show thanks for convincing me i needed yet one more pedal, think i should sell a few now that have become obsolete!
@tomthumb4325 4 жыл бұрын
Love your show guys it's a breath of fresh gear air to my life
@billmiller6532 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a tumnus delux last week and it changed my life. The first time I sat down with it to see what it could do... Man! Four hours went by without me noticing. Not only that my playing shot through the roof. I was nailing techniques that ive never even attempted before. My feel and control improved drastically. Most of all? I've never heard a guitar sound as good as I did. It sounded like guitar should sound like. The dynamics blew me away. If I could only have one pedal for the rest of my life I don't think I would mind as long as it was the Tumnus Deluxe!
@redguitar6062 Жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same and I also put a miniEGO before it. I actually sound like I'm not half bad now 🤣
@kevinjohnbetts 6 жыл бұрын
Crouching Tumnus, Hidden Miku!
@waltersobchek2465 6 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@amandacatherine793 6 жыл бұрын
More like gastric distress Tumnus. That looks to be one unhappy faun. The graphic needs work, but sounds great.
@jasonplucas 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha true
@burninglcd 5 жыл бұрын
How they managed to keep a straight face is beyond me.
@Murphmonster69 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man those are great Kung fu movies
@CliffHawkins 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video guys. I've never really heard the range of tones the klon can do before now. Also cheers for comparing the manticore (I think) to the Dan side of the D&M drive. That explains why it's doing so well! Will have to give it a go if it pops up in NZ.
@Doug5524 4 жыл бұрын
That Keeley oxblood has my sound, only for the big boy's it has a lot to offer, nice demo guy's great show more like this, please
@rorschach1 6 жыл бұрын
I tried many Klons but then I got the Rimrock Mythical Overdrive and never looked back. Best Klon I've ever heard
@jeffmorris9893 6 жыл бұрын
I watched that previous Klon Pedal Show. Since that one show I'm pretty much, Tumnus, delay, reverb, let's go, all I need. Always go back to that.
@brandon-bm5xi 3 жыл бұрын
OxBlood is my favorite pedal to use. I have a jhs colour box too. Different capabilities for sure but I have so much fun with oxblood.
@davegregory4545 6 жыл бұрын
Klon into the Dumble hit the sweet spot for me.
@edgerat 6 жыл бұрын
very lyrical..... I agree
@tienlejean9810 5 жыл бұрын
Best for me is honey bee hit a klon ... heaven sound ;)
@danp9554 6 жыл бұрын
I learn stuff every time i tune in. Thank you for another great video! From a Canadian fan :)
@ttbfan 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are the worst! Now I need another overdrive? I bought the D&M drive, can't you be happy with that. You guys are a relentless assault on my wallet. Absolutely love your show!
@SSvebor 6 жыл бұрын
That Sick As kicks ass.
@iwiggs6870 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool episode. I like the idea of finding a pedal which does the "same thing" without necessarily being a clone of the original . I'd love to see you guys do an episode where you look at pedals to be used as a boost into an already heavily overdriven amp OTHER than a TS808 on full level o gain. Sometimes the nasal honk of an 808 is nasty as hell when thrown in front of a screaming amp (especially if it's a Marshall) so it'd be great to see what other pedals can do the same trick.
@petersmith6098 6 жыл бұрын
Mick and Dan ... you guys are killing me, lol ... remind me never to buy pedals on a Thursday ... just picked up a used Tumnus, after weeks of struggling whether I really needed the extra tone controls, and spend half again as much on the Deluxe piece of kit ... now on Friday I'm second guessing myself, again ... which is why I love your show. A quick comment on the Wampler overdrive/distortion pedals ... on their website, the technical details tab shows a great spider chart of various characteristics of the pedal; a great way to compare their different products. It'd be great if all the pedal manufacturers did this. Cheers!
@OttoBillstrom 6 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see some Bondi on the show :) Love the stuff they make, tried all of their pedals a while back and they are all simply fantastic! Still would love to see a show on Aussie builders as they have an extraordinary market of independent builders.
@essehindeed 6 жыл бұрын
Otto Billström the sick as loves a vox
@krucify87 6 жыл бұрын
The Sick As is the shit. Looooove having that bad boy on my board.
@OttoBillstrom 6 жыл бұрын
krucify87 it's absolutely amazing. I opted for the Breakers however, it's like maple syrups smoother brother!
@the_swoletariat1621 6 жыл бұрын
Man, you and the Jimi Strat were on a whole new level today Mick, great show!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@HiMrWolf 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys great video, I had been wondering why you haven't reviewed the Oxblood yet. Great to see you give it a test run, recommendation re working with clean channels is a good one. Am convinced that it's the pedal I need! Be great to see a show dedicated to boutique pedals from Australia and NZ.
@DaveBloomDrumsOnline 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Tumnus line, such a great sound. The Deluxe obviously has more options for tonal ranges.
@StefanosAndritsios 6 жыл бұрын
you are the best channel guys , is like you are inside my mind yesterday i was thinking about tumnus deluxe and klon and you making something about that and today came the video !! thanks!!!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray! We hope this helps Stefanos!
@patrickcarroll1754 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll just say this once- Mick and Dan are now celebrities. They have become the gold standard of long form music gear shows. I hope your empire only continues to grow, guys. Thanks for making the internet a better place.
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick. The idea of celebrity is horrific - we’re two guitar players down the pub who care about this stuff. Please always think of us like that if you ever see us in the street - come up and say hello like old friends please!
@robotp5543 6 жыл бұрын
at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1910">31:50</a>,,you dialed in the "Crossroads" point where I could not tell them apart. Tumnus mini , and deluxe that is. I have the mini, and love it. Not sure if i need to upgrade to the Deluxe now. Thanks guys, you just may have saved me some coin, and the wife thanks you very much for it. ;)
@manbeast713 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys!! Took some of your advice and got an AC30CH to got wet dry with my peavy classic 30 and it sounds marvellous!! My better half has bought me a D&M drive which I can’t wait to hear through the amps!! Keep it up and great vid as always!!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds magic! Nice one, and huge thanks to your wife for buying a D&M Drive!
@guitarfreak585 6 жыл бұрын
I've never thought about using my Tumnus as a for real overdrive, but man these all sound great.
@harrisonhenley5760 6 жыл бұрын
Good way to finish my first semester ☺️👌🏻 (Referenced one of your videos in one of my essays too!)
@ishancooper 6 жыл бұрын
Great show once again fellas! Beautiful sounds from every pedal and guitar used!! The Tumnus Deluxe seems to sound a bit more open than the OG. I wonder if it’s the new circuit or bigger components making that happen? Sick As sounds Sick AF. Note: I’m glad you decided to print on the front of your shirt Mick or you’d never find it in the washing pile..
@jakeisonhere 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't get the Klon style pedals until I turned my amp up. That's a key trick with these circuits I think. Not necessarily breaking up but just cooking.
@juanmartinreborati7928 6 жыл бұрын
Great sounds! Specially through that Dumble Amp! Very vocally!
@FindabandNewZealand 3 жыл бұрын
THAT TOP END BITE IS JUST DIVINE
@sowhat5150 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a number of times now. Even went back to your previous shows with the original Tumnus and the one that you compared it with the RYRA. Still can’t decided since they all sound great. What I do find wanting to buy after every show is a G2 Gig Rig. Haha
@JedSprague 6 жыл бұрын
Well that makes it about 10 shows in a row where mick is on FIRE!!! The fingers the fingers are workin
@cowitch100 5 жыл бұрын
The Manticore and the Klon sound almost identical witch is interesting because most real Klons don't even sound that close to each other.
@johnbradford2892 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, Mick really understands the stratocaster. Of course he is a great guitar player, but beyond that you can really HEAR his relationship with that instrument. A master of dynamics and feel, taking full advantage of those single coils. Damn. I’m taking notes
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. It does seem like it’s become a part of me in a weird way. Thank you for watching!
@justingarcia7722 6 жыл бұрын
John Bradford I agree.. it’s the real strat player thing, why I hardly get on with a strat and mostly stick to my Tele but, with that said, I LOVE a proper strat so I do have one handy but the instrument is a study in and of itself. Suppose one can say that of any specific instrument though !
@mattburdock1734 6 жыл бұрын
John Bradford Totally agree! Mick helped me out with a strat issue when he was EiC for Guitarist. Absolute strat guru :-)
@johnbradford2892 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Garcia totally agree. I have a strat and love the sound, but it’s a bit of a fight each time I play it.
@gregterry3567 5 жыл бұрын
Being fairly new to gear, I have never seen nor head a real Klon Centaur that I recognized. Dan's comments about the Tumnus in this video really resonated with me, so I bought one. This was my third OD and 8th pedal overall. Ands I have to say this was exactly the tone I was looking for. Pairing it with the Keeley 30 MS, I feel like Josh Smith when he discovered the Tchula.
@kevinrasch7815 6 жыл бұрын
You have great timing. I just bought a Tumnus Deluxe, but have been a little disappointed with it. I have yet to find a tone that outshines my other overdrive pedals (including my much loved D&M Drive) and have been trying to decide whether or not to keep it. You guys were able get some great tones from the Tumnus Deluxe. I am anxious to match your settings and see if that makes my decision easier. Thank you so much for another great show!
@jean-mariepinson2723 6 жыл бұрын
Control on the Oxblood is just amazing... very versatile !!! My choice !
@stanlindert6332 6 жыл бұрын
I love That Pedal Show !
@harrysouter2304 6 жыл бұрын
sounds great lads . i had the good luck to play a klon a couple of months back . it was insane . however , i found that my ehx soul food ( which i had brought for comparison ) created a tone i preferred , both in higher gain and lower gain settings! guess that saves me a grand!
@imbaray 6 жыл бұрын
So happy to see the Oxblood at TPS! I also have the Oxblood germanium that you should try if you prefer something less gainier (also adds less bottom end through the fat switch)
@alexvandepas9336 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Alex here, I love how Mick plays all the little references to songs everyone know and love. Mick you are so bluesy :) Not saying Dan is a crap player! i love his rock stuff... Just loved how Mick did his own version of little wing with the tumulus mini.
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I have abysmal harmonic knowledge and stay in my Little blues Box generally out of fear. I’ve decided that’s my world and I’m staying in it. Dan on the other hand has amazing harmony/melody knowledge. :0)
@nigelpickett2471 6 жыл бұрын
Great informative blow thru' guys. Oxblood for me (if I had the coin!)
@AyYoSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Love that this strat is used as I have the exact same one in ultraviolet haha perfect!
@seeksthebalance 6 жыл бұрын
I can't afford a Klon or quite a lot of the clones so I got a soul food (after watching a TPS video) which I use as a clean boost after my OCD. The change in the mid shape is enough to help me cut through a band when i go for a solo without pushing the preamp of the AC15 too far. Always learning and you guys help to speed that process up. Keep doing what you do :)
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
+Peter Richardson that’s perfect Peter, the SF is particularly good at that
@JasonMcFly 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer Strats and Teles to PRS in general but in this video the PRS sounded amazing. Very impressed for the first time ever
@blackdotpatrick 5 жыл бұрын
Loving the Tumnus Deluxe with my Dr. Z EZG-50.
@jahjah67 6 жыл бұрын
Dan, love the Screaming Blues O’Mania bit.
@yourendwastheroad 6 жыл бұрын
Mick at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="240">4:00</a> you play a chord progression similar to the song Bad Desire by Noah Gunderson. Great song. Great video guys!
@alguitarchristie 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, great job as usual. I know you have done videos on xotic effects EP,SL and the SP, but you really have to check out their BB preamp, BB Plus and AC pedals, awesome! :)
@somewhereelse000 5 жыл бұрын
LOL I'm Australian and I actually know Matt @ Pedal Empire. I also bought a Tumnus Deluxe from his shop today! Amazing pedal.
@markholmes2665 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful show, as always! Makes my Friday every time! I have never played a Klon....but I see the prices on Reverb...a bit much..(HA!) Good to know us "normal" people can get that tone if we want it....
@masonianbund 6 жыл бұрын
That Dumble Overdrive Special tone at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2290">38:10</a> is killer tho 😂😂
@andyduffield5238 4 жыл бұрын
Been a while since we had any updates on Klones.....watched all the old vids when I was looking....tried Tumnus (before Deluxe version), Oxblood, RRYA and settled on the Tumnus that has been on my board for around 4 years now. Just recently got made aware of Rimrock Effects Mythical Overdrive....lots of positive feedback on forums comparing to originals. KTR, Tumnus, RRYA so pulled the trigger and bought one of the Vintage Spec with additional switchable Telefunken 126 germanium diode. Absolutely stunning sound (but can still be set up todo that bass heavy thing that the Tumnus does if that is your thing ). LIked it so much that I went out and bought a second with the switchableTelefunken 128 silicon diode option - great for added headroom and, to my ears, a bit more sparkle). Tumnius now retired to the pedal cupboard. Time for TPS to update this vid?? Ken at Rimrock makes a great pedal and the price is very, very reasonabe. How about it, guys?
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Ermmmm.... sure it’s awesome Andy. But the RYRA sounds so close to my Silver one that we’re kind of done with it. Everyone makes a great Klon type it seems. Now it’s just about using it. Cheers!
@andyduffield5238 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow No worries. But sharing the Rimrock love and another alternative with those still on the lookout and who can't/won't spend the insane money now needed to get an original ;-)
@jazzmasternovo 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great show, loving it, as always. Question & Suggestion - Presumably when using drive pedals in a loop switcher (GigRig etc), the volume knob of each pedal is adjusted along with gain to create a unity dB level? So, pedal on or off, roughly the same volume? I'd like to suggest that we use some of the pedals' headroom and use the volume of each drive to shape the front end of the amp. Maybe take, the big 3 amps, Fender, Vox & Marshall or types of and use a tube screamer type, treble boost/fuzz and maybe even pedals like Echopark's Dual Harmonic/Soapbox, that doesn't have a volume control?
@rockzilla5150 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting very patiently for this review. Lol. Thanks guys. I'm really liking the Tumnus and Tumnus Deluxe. They both sound great but different. Also any chance of reviewing the Blackstone Appliances 2Sv3 please?
@SebCB 6 жыл бұрын
With the release of the EHX op amp big muff, could you do an episode looking at the characteristics of gain derived by different types of components? eg. op amps, germanium transistors, silicon transistors, leds, and any other. I would like to here some of the cork sniffing tasting notes on each of these components in drive or fuzz pedals. love you stuff guys.
@thomasstonehewer7037 6 жыл бұрын
Love Scottys pedals...
@jensenbell 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Ceriatone "Centura" ... sounds and feels EXACTLY like the Klon I used for the second half of 1993. Unbelievable. The correct pronunciation starts with the word "Cherry" (Cherry-uh-tone). It is low-end shy with incredible clarity like the original. Amazeballs. I leave the Centura pretty clean. For higher gain, I think that Tumnus Deluxe looked and sounded best. But the Archer and Lovepedal Kalamazoo I have do the high-gain thing beautifully... so I don't need to spend. The JHS modded Soul Food is also superb for higher gain.
@X360Anti 6 жыл бұрын
My kind of Dumble!! Never heard one compress like that before!!
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Ha! It’s a weird thing. They can get quite compressy in a gain way. (The ODS anyway). But the barking mad power section/EV speaker always makes it very prominent. A unique sound.
@Javerrari 6 жыл бұрын
First couple seconds in, liked video..... the return of the that FREAKING AMAZING LES PAUL
@GraeMcCullough 6 жыл бұрын
Great show as usually! I would love to see a show about power amp breakup vs. speaker breakup: -does speaker breakup have a separate and distinct characteristic that sets it apart from amp breakup? -does speaker breakup generally sound good or is it usually undesirable? etc....
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Woo. That’s really interesting. It’d be all but impossible to separate them out in the context of demo. Thinking caps on.....
@michaelarthurmusic307 6 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show - The Best show on any Screen Anywhere. Yes, better than Star Wars.
@waltersobchek2465 6 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@himynameisrobbie_ 6 жыл бұрын
The Matthews Effects Architect came before the Tumnus deluxe, it's got a 3 band eq too, but, with different clipping options. Has a diode lift, silicon and germanium modes. That would be worth having a look at for another klon style pedal with more versatility!
@jodysanders1111 5 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong. I love the classic LP,Strat, and Telecaster,,,but that PRS sounds like a monster. Great video.
@chuckdriver7741 4 жыл бұрын
Jody Sanders -agreed. The PRS made up my mind for the Keely Oxblood.
@adamf5541 6 жыл бұрын
Great camera angle on the fret board to see Mick's playing! More of this please! Cheers guys!
@GitShiddy 6 жыл бұрын
I always sort of forget how great a Klon sound is until I hear it, every time it's like "oh a pedal that sounds like a good amp should". They just add the right amount of good and remove the right amount of not necessary to just +1 a tone. That Oxblood though for high gain I mean during the OG Klon comparison the Oxblood made the Klon sound like a sickly child who lost it's asthma inhaler. You guys are so right the Klone's have gotten so good that anyone buying an OG has more dollars than sense. Hmm how would that translate to the UK? more quid than IQ? more pounds than perception?
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Haha!!! No disagreements from us Sam. The Klon sound is sooooo interesting. It’s really most at home in a band setting - the right frequencies and edge to really get you heard. All killer no filler here - tremendous selection of pedals today. :0)
@strang3l0v3 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should get some of the Ceriatone amps on the show to test them out. They're really convenient for people who want a lot of classic and boutique amp designs but can't quite afford the originals, so I think it'd be cool to show off that you can get very high end amps for lower prices. Maybe you could even do amp comparison videos between the Ceriatones and the originals you have.
@johncrawford2770 6 жыл бұрын
“Hello ladies” haha! I love it. Great episode fellas.
@tstayin 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was awesome. Should do a montage of Dan’s “O Face” moments after hearing his favorite pedals.
@benspinks342 6 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see your reaction to the Rimrock Mythical Overdrive. My personal favourite Klone with switching diodes.
@joeyselder5693 4 жыл бұрын
As a struggling guitarist, I need all the help I can get. That Pedal Show knows that no two guitar players need the same tone. That Pedal Show customizes your pedal selection so you only pay for what need. Only pay for what you need.
@GitShiddy 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that Klon into the Dumble OD Special, I didn't expect *that* sound...really popped out the mix though so very usable. ;-)
@richardgarcia406 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been looking for a low gain 3 band eq OD. Was contemplating the Tumnus Deluxe, but then stumbled on GearManDude's review of the MXR Il Torino. I'll be getting my hands on it soon. Hope it is great because it would be incredible value for money compared to the Tumnus.
@edadpops1709 6 жыл бұрын
At stage volumes any of those will be awesome. I think the tumnus at low bedroom levels is best to my ears.
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