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The 10 NEW Best Decks | Learning cEDH - Episode 23
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Күн бұрынToday we're doing our first quarterly update for 2024. taking a look at the 10 top performing decks in cEDH so far this year. We've got a newcomer, a format staple that completely fell off, and a few major shakeups on the list. Even as we get ready for Modern Horizons 3 to tear up the format, there's major changes. We also discuss the value of decks that avoid casting spells, events we'll be attending this year, the dominance of Tymna/Kraum, and what about each deck gave it it's performance so far.
Let me know down below what you think of the cEDH meta right now!
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
6:40 - Promo Stuff
7:40 - The Top 10 Decks
11:09 - Honorable Mentions
14:55 - Atraxa
19:57 - Tayam
24:32 - Tevesh/Kraum
26:31 - Magda
31:10 - Rog/Si
35:56 - Najeela
40:48 - Tivit
42:51 - Sisay
47:01 - Kinnan
52:15 - Tymna/Kraum
1:02:28 - Wrap-up
@barrinmasterwizard1260 4 ай бұрын
Please do a part 2 of “Avoid these cEDH mistakes” video!
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
Definitely gonna do another similar video sometime soon!
@MFobes 4 ай бұрын
@@LemorasCardscouldn’t second this more! Keep up the great work.
@TripsAhoy 4 ай бұрын
@@LemorasCardsyes please!
@robdroptables 4 ай бұрын
New Magda is an absolute house. She's an infinite treasure engine and a wincon through Null Rod. Thanks for highlighting our queen!
@eriklarson6362 4 ай бұрын
Have an updated moxfield decklist?
@TripsAhoy 4 ай бұрын
For sure!
@kend6916 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@jaysuede2627 4 ай бұрын
The data speaks for itself. But before anyone runs off to try the "best deck", remember to pick one that works with your play expertise. A master with a "lesser" deck can crush a novice with the best. Acquaintance of mine has been struggling with adjusting to Tayam after having transitioning from Atraxa. Wildly different play loops can hurt your experience if you aren't ready.
@Holden_P 4 ай бұрын
One small suggestion for future videos: please add the deck number (ie for Kennrith being 18th) on the video overlay with the other stats.
@the_breakfastclub 4 ай бұрын
I really love your meta updates. they are the most no-bullshit and still fun to listen to out there. And I really learn and understand sth new everytime :) thx
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Love to hear that!
@kennethmarkwith4678 3 ай бұрын
The tournament that i played in a couple of weeks ago Sisay was EVERYWHERE. My win-n-in round was against TWO Sisay and a Magda. I played Tymna/Malcom and made top 16. Kinnan is a close second in popularity and then T&K.
@w.s6124 4 ай бұрын
Najeela has a insane conversion rate if you think about how omnipresent orcbowmaster is. Also so many creatures compared to like 1-2 years ago
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
Yeah they've really had to change how they approach the deck and so far it's really working out for then.
@davidew345 4 ай бұрын
Just got back from Punt City 3. Congrats to Eric for making it all the way to the finals. Hope you see my list that got me to 23rd place. It’s a spicy deck lol
@armandvermeulen9069 Ай бұрын
Great MTG slam poetry there: "Rhystic, Mystic, Esper, Whatever...." - Matthew 56:43
@GoldSabertooth 3 ай бұрын
You two are the absolute best! Keep up the great work. See you in Columbus!
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Can't wait!
@NickNicolay-ih4zi 3 ай бұрын
Also, the new Magda makes it so once per turn you can make a treasure when you target something an opponent controls, so our maze of ith and hammerheim get even better! Card is pretty legit!
@jwood99999 4 ай бұрын
Undercity sewers has been gas in rogsi. Talion is sweet too, probably gonna play it in my next tourney.
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
I dont have reps with Talion in the list but I've been on the ring and like it. Can confirm Sewers is super worth it.
@jwood99999 4 ай бұрын
@@LemorasCardsyeah, one ring over wheel of misfortune is the move for me, but mostly copied Allana on that. It got me 3rd at a 2k tho, we were like 2 cards different at that tourny
@Olson34 3 ай бұрын
would of loved to see what desklists with the decks so people who what to look for. Also would love to see a budget episodes.
@RaiderX7997 3 ай бұрын
Could we get a link to your current blue farm list?
@TripsAhoy 4 ай бұрын
Good vid! ❤❤❤ Also my boy Gaddock Teeg doesnt show up again!!! One of these days!!! 😂
@codykizer6359 4 ай бұрын
So I have been playing Atraxa for a year straight now. I have it built in paper and love the deck. In my opinion it has fallen off because the base builds the only win con is thorcal, and low interaction. I personally have changed my build so that I can go fast if I need to. layered my win cons so if I lose one or two it doesn't matter. With the new build I can be aggressive with demonic consultation or tainted pact. Use one to get food chain on an endStep. As long as eternal scourge or misthallow got banished I can push for game when I untap. Fingers crossed I have my first tournament at the end of the month.
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it can put you in a tricky spot to be a Food Chain deck that still requires cards in your library to win. Good luck on your tournament!
@BDbiogamer 4 ай бұрын
What other win cons have you added? In my experience with the deck thus far I also don’t love how Thoracle is the only win condition
@codykizer6359 4 ай бұрын
@@BDbiogamer I added hulbraker horror and walking ballista so if I'm storming off with chain. I can end on those for game along with Oracle. Also putting wheels in for your bowmasters and tithe. Endurance for loops with culling ritual to reuse all your rocks for infinite mana, and also can throw in bow masters to for infinite 1 damage etbs . Or silence and fairy master mind and draw them out. I personally don't like blind obedience but some people really like it and it also is an outlet for infinite damage.
@BDbiogamer 3 ай бұрын
@@codykizer6359 could I see your decklist? prepping my list for a league and very curious what you swap out for those includes
@MisterWebb 3 ай бұрын
@@codykizer6359I would also like to see your list
@dave3269 4 ай бұрын
Abzan Tymna so slept on ;) I'll keep it to myself for now
@damo9961 4 ай бұрын
Why not just play Thrasios and get the best color? With Abzan you miss out on the two best colors.
@Medicinalmagic911 4 ай бұрын
Would they ever ban the pairing of t and k 55:00 together But no individual card
@LemorasCards 4 ай бұрын
Seems super unlikely but sure would be a nice fix for cedh specifically.
@aidenwalsh4320 2 ай бұрын
I just wanted to play red dorks. 😔 but I stayed for the Cedh 😂
@Yomolink 4 ай бұрын
What are your budget recommendations for new players that want to try cedh? I mean the decks that work decent without the expensive mana rocks / lands. I'm building Temur Pirates but im open to suggestions :) Thanks a lot 😊
@tegarsatriyo2443 4 ай бұрын
imo build around green for starter... cheap mana dork really help and maybe play stax to slow down tempo against turbo...
@andreaslion5877 4 ай бұрын
are you against playying with proxies ? A lot of tournaments are even 100% proxy friendly, so that might be a solution. If you are, it's kind of hard to be competitive without at least a few expensive cards unfortunately, but the og duals are not needed imo
@Yomolink 4 ай бұрын
@@andreaslion5877 oh, I didnt know. I'm completely new to the format. I supposed they were restricted. Thanks a lot :)
@fernandob2275 4 ай бұрын
So, rog/si should be higher on the list no? Unless this list is just a popularity contest and less about win % ?
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
If we listed purely off of current status as a deck trying to find a balance for conversion rate vs popularity, Rog/Si in this list would be around top 3. it starts to get a bit more opinionated trying to do that, though I'll probably post my take on a tier list on Twitter today.
@DabbleDo 2 ай бұрын
I think cEDH would be way more interesting with either no partners, or waaay more partners. Not enough diversity in the command zone
@tcgmetaslayer4202 3 ай бұрын
Nobody playing thrassios anymore? With dargo?
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
There are people who are, just not enough to show up in this video. Right now Rograkh/Thrasios looks likely to show up as a temur option in the next one.
@cobblepott4169 4 ай бұрын
"Treasures are evergreen, or at least deciduous" 😂
@pokedadsam9041 4 ай бұрын
Can you post a link to the Columbus event? Ohio player here!
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
topdeck.gg/cowtownthrowdown this is the event, though it sold out immediately. Might be able to get lucky on the waiting list, or maybe just come by to hang out and catch games!
@CrimsonLanceMTG 4 ай бұрын
Magda being in here but not krrik is nuts
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Krrik on the list one day, but so far just hasn't had the results or numbers to show up!
@gcastillo231 3 ай бұрын
Can cedh be played on a "budget"???
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
cEDH in general is very budget friendly in that almost all cEDH play is super proxy friendly. Beyond that, it can be tricky to build cEDH decks with "real" cards in a budget friendly way, but that also depends on your budget. Some lower color decks can be built with a few swaps that make it much more affordable, and even higher color ones can make swaps like running shocks over duals to bring the price down dramatically.
@fernandob2275 4 ай бұрын
Rog/Si is turbo, why would anyone add midrange jank to it? Lol
@LemorasCards 3 ай бұрын
You mean with adding Talion? Rog/Si is pretty focused on turboing out advantage engines, Talion is just another one of those.
@aidenwalsh4320 2 ай бұрын
It's still crazy that I didn't know Comedian and ton of baller players play at my LGS until last weekend 😂. Blows my mind. Smal world.
@NewSchoolPOKERstrat 4 ай бұрын
The Tymna Kraum thing I think just requires a ban. Tymna is too good. I love her. But she is the reason there are literal zero Orzhov decks in cEdh and she’s the reason TnK is busted. It’s a shitty kind of busted too where there’s not much to do about it. How do you tech against card draw, Sheoldred 🤬stop playing Fuckin Sheoldred. Jesus.., seriously! “My opponents have less life when they kill me” .. “it sometimes makes a guy die” and “I have a higher life total when I lose” ARE NOT REASONS TO PLAY A CARD!! Just kill the goddam Tymna’s and Kraums. Yes it really is worth it. 🖖
@yngnickel 4 ай бұрын
rowan not mentioned, go next
@damo9961 4 ай бұрын
Yeah no way is that cracking the top 10 list. It's pretty fringe really.
@justaperson5092 4 ай бұрын
I LOVE rowan, thats a fringe deck people want to work really bad. It's a high power deck that can tango with cEDH decks on god draws, but doesn't have the ability to hang due to low interaction, low responses to interaction and fragility. She's like a lot of "it sounds good" with very little ability to play a long game, stop interaction and even through cost reduction incredibly reliant on colored mana so can't be as turbo as like Kriik. She also always has a giant target on her, and every piece turning her on as fringe and unusual as they are, are basically giant flood lights saying "REMOVE ME OR MY LIFE TOTAL NOW" that just require "read the card" level threat assessment. No access to blue OR white makes her sadly pitifully easy to interact with. Very flexible decklists and cool win lines with her reductions but to me, she'll never be top 10 or even 20 but a niche undercurrent doing cool crap when people underestimate the deck (for some reason). Her ability only being Sorcery speed is IMO a huge part of why she'll never be a top deck.
@yngnickel 4 ай бұрын
@@justaperson5092 ok blue farm it is very exciting deck fr
@ryanwilson8530 3 ай бұрын
I wish they would just ban thassa oracles
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