Even the modern 2 valve Vass trombones can't play it smoothly without the tuning slide trick

@@mccabecompositions The plot thickens! Initially, two-valve bass trombones featured the F valve, and a dependent second valve in flat E. This extended the horn just enough to play the Bartok glissando, which is why this pitch was chosen. From there, a skilled player can theoretically execute a B to F gliss by releasing the valve during the gliss slowly to get the half valve smoothing gliss effect. This became less doable as the second valve evolved to be more useful as a whole, and B moved away from the very end of the slide.

So would a dependent, double valve bass still be able to do this?

@@sinatrabone no, you’d need an older model where the second valve is in flat E for this trick Since its inception in the sixties, the second valve of the single rotor bass took on different tunings, like Eb, and D.

It’s even funnier because it’s just a loud fart sound 😂

An uncountable number of tones in a range

"Or how I learned to stop caring and make millions off of trombones"

I don't wanna slice it I wanna slide it.

Lol

I was thinking that, too. How much grease is on that thing?

Hetman Light Slide Gel is pretty easy to move

@@counterfit5 no i know, i was making a joke about public school instruments lmao

if you have a good quality horn it'll move easily

You’re getting there

Double C was upwards right? Not entierly familiar with english terms on that front. If so, i can only hit single(?) Eb on my Tuba, so wow

high or low?

@@shadowflarehd2376 high

ive only had to go up to g (-2 position) in a song before, but one time i got high as fuck (on weed, not the note) and accidentally started hitting notes higher than my flute player friend could

Hello, this costs $12k and only has one use near the end of the show. Enjoy the performance folks!

Interesting, because that tiny little clip of Mutchler at 1:00 is in the lobby of the Utah Symphony’s very own Abravanel Hall by coincidence.

Can they mop the floor as well? Looks like a slippery slope to me

Hey now we can be very busy depending on what piece we’re playing 😂

@@tracefuqua3651 naaaah. Not in a symph orchestra PS okay okay, maybe if its a short one, like short ride in a fast machine but not core repertoire

@@AndreyRubtsovRU I agree in an orchestral setting not so much but my personal experience is outside of that realm. I can understand why the tuba doesn’t get as much respect as other instruments

@@tracefuqua3651 orchestra tubists though? Yeah, busy counting to four 600 times.

its hilarious cuz you can play it easily with a regular Bb/F Orchestral Tenor Trombone

​@@jeffmousebeans5055no you can't because you can't gliss that interval. It's not the notes individually that are the problem, it's the fact that the slide isn't long enough to play it normally.

@@gunnarkilborn3915 bro i have a Bb/F tenor trombone and i can do it easily. If you want i can make a video of me doing it

@@jeffmousebeans5055 "you can play it easily with a regular Bb/F Orchestral Tenor Trombone" -- this is incorrect

@@jebbishop3 it literally is. do you want me to post a video of me doing it? cuz i can, and its not hard at all

that's in the Miraculous Mandarin

the slide isn't long enough. when using the valve you only get about 6 positions

@@samuelzackrisson8865 Thats what I thought was the problem at first as well, but as far as I can tell and based on my own experiences it would still be a problem even if the instrument is in f directly, slide positions get weird playing that low even without using one of the triggers

@@jackkuni3137 I have a trombone with a trigger and i can tell it's impossible to play b natural on it. c is just about possible

@@jackkuni3137 The slide on the Bartok trombone is double-wrapped, making the slide positions 1/2 as long. And the slide on the bass sackbut has a handle to make 7th position possible.

@@jeremyquiros5483 Thanks for the explanation, I did not notice that part and that makes a lot more sense

blowing the raspberry...

Probably a Kelly 50.

also downward ones, which can't be played by the shoelace method.

I reckon at least 1 foot

Flutes? Those are cheap AF!

@@q12aw50 You'd think so, and some of them can be, but the really high end stuff is stupid expensive, because they're literally made out of stuff like Silver, or Gold.

AMEN

It's totally playable with a fifth valve, as many instruments today have, and also totally possible with a compensating valve set as the British use (though compensating valves tend to make instruments sound stuffy). It is also sometimes possible to use false tones on 3 and 4 valve instruments. A single valve bass trombone has the same problem, but slightly less severe. Trigger + 7th position is equivalent to 1-2-3-4 (with a tuning slide pulled) on tuba. This is why bass trombones have a 2nd trigger. This gliss is still not quite possible with that valve setup, though, because you'd need to instantly move the slide out like four positions when disengaging the Gb valve, since that valve needs to be engaged tor B and disengaged for F.

Practice

It sounds awful

@@q12aw50 Oh so that's why; I first thought it's the mouth feel that is awful instead lmao

@@aloysiuskurnia7643 it probably is too lol

No, because if you use both triggers, the low B would be on somewhere around the 5th position, so you can't do a glissando over 6 semitones ...

Wtf are you smoking that has nothing to do with the video

Murph moment

Murph’s magical music moment

I always notice

Did you even watch the video

Sounds like you just suck at music