The 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T Manual Is A Perfectly Balanced Purist Sports Car

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Жыл бұрын

With so many flavors, the #Porsche911 is a near perfect sports car made for enthusiasts. For 2023, #Porsche is expanding the family with the #911CarreraT, with the #CarreraT serving as the cheapest way to get a #911Carrera in the 7-speed manual form. Despite having only the base 379 HP twin-turbo F-6, this #911T offers plenty of thrills for most enthusiasts.
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@cigarjefe
@cigarjefe Жыл бұрын
This has to be the best overall vehicle made today. The balance between raw speed, simplicity, and aggression is absolutely sublime.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Жыл бұрын
Rob is still waiting for me to catch up in the Type R 🤣
@silver545454
@silver545454 Жыл бұрын
Kirk please review the 911 T also! You and Sofyan both are magnificent!!
@chrisdennis1348
@chrisdennis1348 10 ай бұрын
I don't see the value or benefit for anyone to negatively judge others because they want to and can afford to buy any Porsche. Owning a sports car is for fun, and I can support that. We have way too much negativity in our discourse as it is. Let's appreciate that we have the opportunity to explore this hobby now and that great cars are available for all interested buyers.
@craigdurie958
@craigdurie958 Жыл бұрын
The gold standard in reviews. Thank you for your professionalism and excellent reviews.
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 Жыл бұрын
You can get a tune on this engine from a number of shops at this point. I love the simplicity of the T and, yes, it already has plenty of power out of the box. That said, Porsche's pricing is downright criminal. They have no shame when it comes to price gouging.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Жыл бұрын
Watching this I just went on their site to configure one for fun (as I can't afford it for real). Around $115k to start, and you can easily get $20k worth of options on a car that should have them standard for 6-digit price tag. I understand this is for a different target demographic, but come on...
@wayneedwards5515
@wayneedwards5515 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%.
@jeffreykilpatrick3592
@jeffreykilpatrick3592 Жыл бұрын
You can buy a corvette if you want to save some money. Or there are lots of used Porsche sports cars. But there are no cars like a Porsche 911.
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreykilpatrick3592 You won't find any deals on the pre-owned market either. Porsche buyers are too willing to overpay and that isn't going to end anytime soon. I actually would consider a C8 Corvette at some point. It's the performance car bargain of the century.
@antiapatic
@antiapatic Жыл бұрын
you know why? because KZfaq is full of narcissistic idiots that flexes their ego by owning a a Porsche(usually GT3 or Turbo) because those wannabe "purists" do not settle for less. So Porsche is doing what any other company there would do: overcharging :) There are channels that literally review just Porsche cars: "with my Porsche for a coffee" , "with my Porsche for for a trio with my girlfriend"..
@evankatz2893
@evankatz2893 Жыл бұрын
As a viewer since Day 1 Mr Bey always putting out a superior video& production, That color is totally awesome!
@security_threat
@security_threat Жыл бұрын
Btw, you have an European spec. The standard Carrera in Europe does NOT have a rear camera. Only US cars do (hence why it doesn’t come up).
@jojosaves
@jojosaves 8 ай бұрын
Not offering a surround camera system on a $150K car is criminal. I could understand a camera delete option for free for the track enthusiasts.
@security_threat
@security_threat 7 ай бұрын
@@jojosaves sorround camera is not standard but it’s is offered? Maybe $1k?! Not sure.
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments Жыл бұрын
It's got the solid-sounding thunk ✅ Horn sounds really good. ✅ Add to cart 💸 🛒
@Bobby-uf1yu
@Bobby-uf1yu 7 ай бұрын
Great quality review, probably the best so far on the T, very complete!
@1aspirefit
@1aspirefit Жыл бұрын
Love the color, reminds me of the Krypton green that GM had for the Camaro.
@dtna
@dtna Жыл бұрын
Good review!
@lloydcollins
@lloydcollins Жыл бұрын
I say it all the time…love your reviews, Soyfan you are the best in the game! Would like to suggest you ask your camera-dude to stop doing all the quick zoom in/zoom out shots. I feel he is trying to practice his Iron Man or Superman movie camera tricks.
@bradcolby3624
@bradcolby3624 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Rob back
@oliverlondon5246
@oliverlondon5246 Жыл бұрын
We need more cars like this! ❤
@sarge27271
@sarge27271 8 ай бұрын
Porsche, all about "Smiles per Mile"............Cheers
@richgonzalez873
@richgonzalez873 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for mine to arrive , being told April / may . My freeze date is on the 28th of feb and immmmm excited LOL
@robertrubin6813
@robertrubin6813 Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks for posting… I have a Carrera S because I wanted a manual transmission I didn’t know when the Carrera T was coming. Just one point of clarification sport chrono and Porsche torque vectoring are already included in a C2S MT, so I don’t believe it will come to $20,000 additional to spec it similarly.
@jeremysantaana859
@jeremysantaana859 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a beautiful car 😍🔥
@phatgringo2.0
@phatgringo2.0 Жыл бұрын
Sofyan calling Rob a fatty, hilarious!
@TheLadiesman0815
@TheLadiesman0815 Жыл бұрын
I will own a Porsche one day. Swear I will
@jeffreykilpatrick3592
@jeffreykilpatrick3592 Жыл бұрын
The base engine actually spins up faster than the S which only has larger fan blades. My new T will cost me $149,700 - with all kinds of great options.
@alb3096
@alb3096 10 ай бұрын
Why is the similar engine 3.0 on T or on S reving better on a T?
@jeffreykilpatrick3592
@jeffreykilpatrick3592 10 ай бұрын
@@alb3096 again - the S has larger diameter turbo blades essentially than the T engine- this does produce around 50 more hp- but the larger blades don’t seem to provide the same immediate burst of speed like the smaller diameter blades on the T.
@saq4851
@saq4851 Жыл бұрын
Sofyan… your closing in on a million ! Love your reviews brother … one of the best in the business
@edgargonzalez-wx5no
@edgargonzalez-wx5no Жыл бұрын
Getting my python green T delivered in june...unfortunately the rear wing is unavailable, but still excited 😁
@HyeunJun
@HyeunJun Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new T! Mine is also Python Green and ETA is early May. I didn’t opt for Aero Kit but Porsche rejected to add Aero Kit who added Aero Kit after 25th of January 2023. I read thread from Rennlist.
@philipjohnson8946
@philipjohnson8946 Жыл бұрын
This or the targa is my dream car. Good review as always
@amoilevin
@amoilevin Жыл бұрын
If you don't need the backseats and want a purist experience it makes much more sense to get the Boxster GTS 4. You will get a fully loaded for less with the amazing NA 4L.
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 Жыл бұрын
The Boxster is just not as good-looking, though. Like not even close.
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 disagree I think it’s better looking. Aside from the GT3, all the other versions have a gaping front grille and a plastic filled rear diffuser. Looks cheap as f**k. Easily reminds me of some significantly cheaper econoboxes
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 Жыл бұрын
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 OK. 👍🏼
@CompletelyObsorbed
@CompletelyObsorbed Жыл бұрын
I noticed the rear turn signal indicator lamp is now amber. Is that new for 2023, or something that is only for model T?
@badbeatking80
@badbeatking80 11 ай бұрын
Its a 911. Perfect luxurious sports car that can be driven everyday
@reyjustimbaste1058
@reyjustimbaste1058 8 ай бұрын
Love it. Simple sports cars with manual transmission are the best
@Slim1986
@Slim1986 Жыл бұрын
Porsche can't do no wrong 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын
The bucket seats are unfortunately not offered on the configurator at this time
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
The T makes sense for a 911 daily driver, but I spec’d a Cayman GTS 4.0 for $20K less and that’s what I’d get if I drank the Kool Aid and bought a Porsche.
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb Жыл бұрын
What are have you got instead?
@glucia2223
@glucia2223 Жыл бұрын
10000%. What is the point of the 911T when you can get the 718 GTS for far cheaper, with a mid-engine. Yea. The 718 has a pretty spartan inrerior, but it will drive better and is faster. Correct in that 0-60 in 4.5 is all you really need. But the power boost from the 718 from a cheaper standpoint is nice.
@DarkClosetOfTheMind
@DarkClosetOfTheMind Жыл бұрын
Is there launch control with the manual? or did you manually do it?
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 Жыл бұрын
Let’s go southwest crew!
@billyhughes9776
@billyhughes9776 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have had my eye on a 911, and unfortunately it will remain that way. If I had the means this would be about the perfect spec.
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des Жыл бұрын
Distinctively Porsche! One German car I’d love to own.
@eyesurgeon69
@eyesurgeon69 Жыл бұрын
Most of the weight difference is the manual trans vs a PDK. The other weight savings is minimal.
@user-jf8gd3lv7q
@user-jf8gd3lv7q Жыл бұрын
With a 911 Carrera T avoiding 18 way electric seats and taking the "basic seats" is also very usable for getting a sports car as light as possible. Also the optional carbon fibre roof would be very useful to avoid mass at the highest point of the vehicle, for even bringing down the center of gravity.
@Phil-fw2ib
@Phil-fw2ib Жыл бұрын
Sweet!!!!
@brianheffernan8982
@brianheffernan8982 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Sofyan. The manual transmission is the only way to go in a Porsche.
@captainwin6333
@captainwin6333 Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's inferior.
@soymilk_
@soymilk_ Жыл бұрын
Next review I think you should start about 100 feet away from the car, take your small slow steps towards it, and finally reach the car by the end of the review. 😉
@a.c.e.7568
@a.c.e.7568 7 ай бұрын
If all Carreras were priced the same, I wonder which model "new" first time owners would take? That would be interesting.
@billyrock8305
@billyrock8305 Жыл бұрын
Topgun. #1. 😎🇩🇪
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 Жыл бұрын
That color! I love the 911! But the green stitching and belts available inside is not Python green, but Viper green which is more green/yellow tint, and does not match the Viper green exterior. Sorry, stitching is lizard green.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын
It's Lizard Green stitching and belts
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 Жыл бұрын
@@joe718gt4 sorry yes that’s correct - thanks. But still doesn’t match the Viper Green exterior. It’s more more yellow or neon than the exterior.
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын
@golfbuddy1969 yeah you'd have to go CXX if they allow it. I thought of going Python on Lizard, but now I want Rubystar Neo with yellow belts and Rubystar Neo trim. Actually saves a couple of thousand too
@nvanpraag
@nvanpraag 11 ай бұрын
Also, "T" is a designation for the homogenized race version for "Touring Car" racing, not in reference to street touring (i.e. plush driving) you mention. The first T was created to qualify for racing and therefore had lighter weight and smaller displacement.
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 Жыл бұрын
please review the 718 Cayman T now!! I’m looking to order one
@fadablayne
@fadablayne Жыл бұрын
Only Gts and Gt4 are being allocated at the moment. 718 production is almost over
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 Жыл бұрын
@@fadablayne source?!
@gunsmokezz
@gunsmokezz Жыл бұрын
Car costs 160k here easy after taxes. Goes 4.3 at best seems slow for what your getting now. Needs to be in the 3’s for that kind of money
@a.c.e.7568
@a.c.e.7568 7 ай бұрын
1:43 you are picking a color "for the attention" the car gets. But I am on a back road enjoying mine with nobody around to see it, not cruising back and forth on a boulevard in town for the "hey, look at me" scenario.
@cb9137
@cb9137 Жыл бұрын
Porsche looks good any color 😍
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
If they could get the price down to 75k (what it's actually worth without Porche's crazy profit margins) they would sell alot more of them
@beri232
@beri232 Жыл бұрын
Love Porsche but out of my budget and practicality range.
@robertlevasseur6843
@robertlevasseur6843 9 ай бұрын
There seems to be nothing basic about the 4-way seats. They look spectacular.
@sjp3003
@sjp3003 9 ай бұрын
They're great...I only miss having a memory button
@AutomotiveAnatomy
@AutomotiveAnatomy Жыл бұрын
Great review like always and PORSCHE is the way!
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, love the green, but... $128K 😲
@joejones6890
@joejones6890 11 ай бұрын
It's like a Mustang with better handling and quality but three times the cost. I'll take the Mustang sport package for every day driving unless I'm going on the track or windy roads all the time.
@sjp3003
@sjp3003 9 ай бұрын
Both are great cars...I sold a 997 X51 911S a few years ago to get a Shelby GT350, and recently sold a GT500 Shelby that will be replaced by a GT Touring. Handling, MT and interior finish on the P Cars are better. The 5.2V8 sounds better than the flat 6 and has way more oomph.
@aznsumthing
@aznsumthing Жыл бұрын
This is peak combustion engine car before whole industry move to electric.
@joshharrison1160
@joshharrison1160 Жыл бұрын
my infiniti q50 red sport was 0-60 in 4.5.
@jeffreykilpatrick3592
@jeffreykilpatrick3592 Жыл бұрын
The accents are titanium color not agate. The fixed wing is called an “aero kit” in flat black or gloss black. Also I have been driving a 2021 Targa4 for over a year and without the front end lift. And I have never scrapped my front end in over 17,000 miles. Why? Because I drive in and out of driveways at an angle and also the same with speed bumps. The sound of the engine improves over the first 6,000 plus miles. More crackles and pops on downshifts. Definitely the best car in the lineup. By the way the hp is 389 not 380.
@denisreggie-premierwedding7857
@denisreggie-premierwedding7857 Жыл бұрын
Actually, those are agate accents. Check their website
@denisreggie-premierwedding7857
@denisreggie-premierwedding7857 Жыл бұрын
Wheels are titanium, but the painted body accents are agate
@nvanpraag
@nvanpraag 11 ай бұрын
Also note: the T sits 10mm lower than your car so is more likely to scrape even when approaching driveways at an angle.
@runninwildwithmilwaukeebuck
@runninwildwithmilwaukeebuck Жыл бұрын
Porsche is watching this video and feels disrespected that there is a guy with a TypeR jacket in the passenger seat of their car 🤣😂
@markallen2984
@markallen2984 10 ай бұрын
If Porsche made a manual available in the base Carrera, there would be no need for this variant. Realistically, a 100lb weight savings and a noisier cabin does not morph a GT car into a sports car.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Жыл бұрын
Watching this I just went on their site to configure one for fun (as I can't afford it for real). Around $115k to start, and you can easily get $20k worth of options on a car that should have them standard for 6-digit price tag. I understand this is for a different target demographic, but come on...
@user-jf8gd3lv7q
@user-jf8gd3lv7q Жыл бұрын
What do you expect...? A Porsche 911 sports car for Kia money? What's the problem with so many Americans? Porsche is producing the best sports cars out there, and of course these cars don't come cheap, period! This is just a fact. Always complaining about these things is so fucking annoying. Do you want the "right for getting a brandnew Porsche 911 for only 60.000 Dollars"? For example, a shitty built and unreliable Aston Martin Vantage would cost you more than double or threetimes the price of a Porsche 911 model, which of course is way better built and of course faster than an Aston Martin. Why are so many Americans complaining about Porsche 911 prices, but not about stupidly high Aston Martin prices??? I don't get it. A Porsche 911 is worth every penny of its prize, dude! Greetings from Stuttgart, Germany
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Жыл бұрын
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q Get off your soapbox there Mr. Stuttgart. You're clearly not subjective about this topic at all. Furthermore, I'm not an American, but thanks a lot for making the assumption. :) Nobody said they should cost $60k. Nor do I expect every feature. But the issue is they START at $115k for a sub-400hp flat 6. Sorry if I expect a few features from this? I'm not saying they're comparable or that they're the same thing in terms of prowess, quality, reputation, appearance, etc. And I'm also not a BMW fan boy by any means. But you can get an M4 comp for $80k, loaded for $90-95k with extra 100hp and same amount of cylinders. And for Porsche to ask for extra payment for better headlights after a $115k starting price tag is still ridiculous. That's what I don't get. Lastly - why bring up Aston Martin? Nobody was talking about that and yea, if Aston had same pricing I'd be complaining just the same. Once you crest a 6-digit price tag, nickeling and diming for features is just sad.
@darkmatter6714
@darkmatter6714 Жыл бұрын
You should have done a 0-60 run without Rob and all the gear
@SuperMookybear
@SuperMookybear Жыл бұрын
Out of interest, was it necessary to change into 3rd when doing the 0-60 time?
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th Жыл бұрын
Beautiful color and the current 911 is a nice design but wow those prices. I'll stick with a liter bike and out run them for less than 1/5th the cost.
@nvanpraag
@nvanpraag 11 ай бұрын
FYI: 18-way seats add 35 pounds, so if low weight is the goal... pass.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I LOVE EVERYTHING!!! GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING.
@user-pn3ix7ws1v
@user-pn3ix7ws1v Жыл бұрын
@Cutlerylover4life1
@Cutlerylover4life1 Жыл бұрын
At a starting price of $115k it should have a better 0-60 time, or more standard options. A sports car over 100k definitely needs to be in the 3s
@jakelangston3756
@jakelangston3756 Жыл бұрын
This is a manual. The PDK version is hitting 60 in 3.6 seconds.
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 Жыл бұрын
3:54 did Porsche finally come to their senses and put proper amber rear indicator lights on their Noth American 911s or is this a European-spec car?
@fadablayne
@fadablayne Жыл бұрын
Euro spec car
@heithwatkins
@heithwatkins Жыл бұрын
Wow. If only I had the money 🤑🤑🤑
@AndersChanTidemann
@AndersChanTidemann 8 ай бұрын
Why do you insist on butchering the clutch in the car to “verify” the 0-60 claims when it appears you barely know how to operate a manual box?
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 Жыл бұрын
Taking delivery of my Agate Grey C2 next week. I had a 3 year wait for this base ( 385 hp ) car…..which gave me plenty of…..to much….time to option it. While I would lose the door decal…..and that Green…..really ? Not sure I see a “need” for a T model. Except for the transmission, you can easily option the C2 and I really think end up with a bit more comfortable car. Not trying to be a wise guy……just not sure I like ….or see a need…for the T.
@JennyJenny-ml2gj
@JennyJenny-ml2gj Жыл бұрын
Please tell your camera guy to stop zoom in and out so much. It's very distracting and unprofessional. Thank you.
@andrewkolb1560
@andrewkolb1560 11 ай бұрын
Will this model hold its value or appreciate over time? I'm thinking of buying one. What's everyone think?
@MrDaveaccord
@MrDaveaccord Жыл бұрын
There is no substitute.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
$120,000 actually a pretty good deal he says! Lol
@TheHoosiers2008
@TheHoosiers2008 Жыл бұрын
Why “lol”?
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHoosiers2008 he goes on many Porsche videos to say the same thing over and over again. It's probably his third account at this point
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 Жыл бұрын
He always compare Porsche to other super cars, obviously, it’s cheaper than other super cars.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
@@blackwhirlwind1245 A 911t IS NOT A SUPER CAR a GT3RDs or a 911 Turbo maybe.
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 Жыл бұрын
@@andresmattos7541 well, it’s still expensive for just a sports car.
@Dkny1985
@Dkny1985 Жыл бұрын
Sofyan, why don't you review Bugatti? It's time to do that
@drnoizewater
@drnoizewater Жыл бұрын
I would gladly pay $3200 for them to not offer this color.
@Jgjginkg244
@Jgjginkg244 Жыл бұрын
4 dot headlights are the worst. The most hideous.
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
Damn Almost as fast as a Model 3..🤣😜…seriously a nice car if overpriced.
@alexl.102
@alexl.102 Жыл бұрын
@Paul Bugoni damn almost as fast as my civic..🤣😜...seriously a nice car if overpriced
@miguelvega7769
@miguelvega7769 Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting a car you can’t even work on yourself 😂😂😂
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather go for an LC 500. Acceleration is about the same and way better interior for almost 30k less. Yeah, I get that it's not manual and doesn't have the cachet of "Porsche", but I also didn't expect the 911 Carrera T to be that slow 0-60 for the price.
@chrisdennis1348
@chrisdennis1348 10 ай бұрын
You cannot characterize the LC 500 as a sports car.
@jeffreykilpatrick3592
@jeffreykilpatrick3592 Жыл бұрын
If you scrapped the front end you don’t know how to drive.
@RealDataPointGuy
@RealDataPointGuy Жыл бұрын
The 911 is the poor man's 928. Just calling balls and strikes.
@Victor-it6bv
@Victor-it6bv Жыл бұрын
Nissan Z is quicker rhan than this on straights
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly overpriced
@Tjz30
@Tjz30 Жыл бұрын
Bro if ur broke just say it
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
@@Tjz30 Bro you know my bank account?
@slopedawg1
@slopedawg1 Жыл бұрын
is this car really 100k+? and only 4.3 seconds? get yourself an audi s5 , only .4 seconds slower and a fraction of the price, literally just paying for some extra suspension and the porsche tag
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 Жыл бұрын
Every Porsche is expensive, you buy it for the badge.
@haydenspoppa785
@haydenspoppa785 Жыл бұрын
You’ve completely missed the point of what the T is in the 911 lineup. This is a driver focused sports car that actually corners without exhibiting the Audisteer/Understeering mess that is an Audi when pushed to its limits. For morons who care only about 0-60 times, they can go buy a Tesla (that, like the Audi, also handles like 💩 ). Personally, couldn’t care less about 0-60 times but since it’s the top priority for you, did you not hear him say that 4.3 was the estimate for the manual and 3.8 was the estimate for PDK?
@benchmark76
@benchmark76 Жыл бұрын
Worst driver ever. Give it some revs when trying 0-60 instead of almost killing it and come on, there is seven gears, this is 5 more than you used…
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg Жыл бұрын
Anything more than third will get you busted if you're pushing it.
@francisgomes9976
@francisgomes9976 Жыл бұрын
$128k for base 911, you get 4.5 0-60. M4 all day and save $45k you could buy another toy car like mx-5 or daily driver CUV if you need cargo room
@fadablayne
@fadablayne Жыл бұрын
Yea, but what if you already owned the m3/m4 and want to try something different? You're also more likely to get a "better" model the next time around. There's levels to this car ish, like it or not unfortunately.
@francisgomes9976
@francisgomes9976 Жыл бұрын
@@fadablayne yes base 911 is not $135k special. With $130k-$140k in used car sports market you could find super low milage mint condition McLaren 570s, R8, Acura NSX, BENZ AMG GTR, McLaren 12c, 991 Turbo there are others im forgetting. Maybe if base 911 with all the options was around $100k then it was justifiable.. then again it's people with money who doesn't want flashy sports car buy these.
@user-sn1lu5yi6r
@user-sn1lu5yi6r Ай бұрын
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