also the giants may be from western sydney but they do play a fair few in the ACT

NT OR ACT JOOOOOIIIINNN

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Canberra would just use Manuka. That's even cheaper.

@@AndyViant GWS struggled to take off, a Canberra team would be even harder to gain a reasonable fanbase. And who would want Manuka is their home ground? Would definitely lose money very very quickly

@beebeenyneeee7692 I do think that the AFL should got outside squared circle of getting a very (1st First) new Non-Australian Australian Rules Football Team from New Zealand as Kiwi team from either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch to join in our AFL Competition & have look at the example from all of our Football Federation Australia, National Rugby League, Australian Basketball League, Netball Australia who all do have New Zealand teams in their very own Competitions & our Australian Football League should follow these examples of their sporting governing body counterparts to include a New Zealand side for AFL Competition of course.

@user-we8ue9qy9l league, basketball, soccer and netball are all popular in new Zealand. AFL is not popular in the slightest there. It would take decades to get any sort of ground there

It's a very strong candidate indeed for all the reasons you mention. The only problem I reckon is that Manuka is old and I doubt the ACT government would give it a full rebuild or replacement, when they've already got to find a replacement for Bruce Stadium. Seeing as the AFL demanded Tasmania build a shiny new stadium to get a licence, I can see them making the same demand here, but the ACT government refusing it. A third Perth team could simply use Optus Stadium, and I think that gives them an advantage.

Agree. It’s the only viable option

It probs won’t work cause every one in nsw goes for Sydney if not they watch nrl

Canberra cant afford an AFL teamIt doesnt have a sponsor pool to draw on, and it doesnt have a population large enough to support a team financially or with junior numbers. Essendon district alone had 5 times the under 14s in 2022 as the entire Canberra junior competition. It barely supports a 6 team senior comp. It couod probably support a 5 team comp comfortably. With 2 or 3 clubs and pokies the Raiders dont make a lot and their costs would be less. Canbeirra couldnt even maintain a NEAFL team due to long held animosity between clubs. Adelaide would support another two AFL clubs more comfortably than Canberra can support one.

@@johnhynes7784 If GC or Tassie can support a team than Canberra can. Canberra was an AFL city, but then the rugby codes and soon even the A-league will be in canberra. There were for quite a while more GWS memeber in Canberra than in sydney as well. I'm sure GWS success whas changed that, but the support for an AFL side here in the region is there. Also3 teams ruins the 2 team derby's that exist in Perth and Adelaide. They are big because people go for one side or the other side. Adding a third team takes away from those games. Its the same reason State of Origin worked in Rugby league much better than AFL, despite AFL inventing it.

Your positive, don't think they would be in the position to enter the AFL.

you are so right i know people that treat SANFL like the AFL

@ThatBeeBoy not Norwood, it's all talk.

Yeah I heard about the Joondalup arena potentially being redeveloped which could host a team. But yeah I should’ve of been more clear about the difference between a Joondalup team and North end West Australian team. Appreciate the comment tho mate

​@@boundaryrider Great video but the Joondalup segment clearly called it a "northern WA" bid, even citing WAFL games in Broome (far north WA) and the undesirability of players moving to the far north (which, for the record, is very sparsely populated and not developed). All good to just say this was an error.

Which 19 year old wants to go live in northern Australia? Stupid idea

@@jackhudson2237 Not only that but the climate doesn't allow for it. it's either way too hot or pissing down rain.

@@lempollo6430 my point exactly, they'll struggle to keep players and ultimately fail.

I believe that a Northern Australian team (based for half a season in Cairns and the other half in Darwin) should be the 21st team. I feel Canberra should be first though.

@bodhiderrick827 No if we DON'T get Canberra THEN the AFL should consider expanding into New Zealand across the Tasman by getting a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian a Kiwi Australian Rules Football Team from New Zealand either to based &/or established in either Auckland, Wellington, &/or even perhaps from Christchurch which closer to all of Victoria & Tasmania, Western Australia, South Australia, New South Wales, Queensland rather than the Northern Territory of course. But however if FFA Football Federation Australia who have a New Zealand Team of Wellinton Phoenix & the NRL National Rugby League who have a New Zealand Team of New Zealand Warriors THEN our AFL Australian Football League can also be Very Good Enough to have a New Zealand Australian Rules Football Team for their Very (1st First) time in the AFL History as a Very (1st) Non-Australian Rules Football Team from New Zealand & besides that a Kiwi Team from New Zealand would heaps better choice to have rather than Northern Territory just by very long shot as a country mile at least of course. Also, that FFA Football Federation Australia (Soccer) will be having (2 Two) new A-League Teams which are both Canberra for the Men's A-League Competition & also a (2nd Second) New Zealand Team would be Auckland for both Men's & Women's A-League Competitions towards the end of this year for our very new A-League Season but however that there's a Canberra Women's A-League Team that's been in the Women's A-League for some years of course.

Yeah I thought of adding Canberran to the conversation but I think we need to see sustained attention on AFL in NSW before we take them into full consideration. But there is definitely heaps of time for them to grow the sport in Canberra

How could they upgrade Manuka though? Is there any future where they could have a joint Canberra AFL/Raiders (NRL) stadium? I think if they combined resources it could be possible, I just know that traditionally the viewing experience of AFL in an NRL stadium is pretty trash (think AFL @ Accor in Syd)

@@boundaryrider Canberra is arguably the best option for a 20th team. Strong support, an already developed grass roots system. Large population with strong sponsorship opportunities. Well located to retain talent as well as already developing talent. Closely linked to the riverina region that is very footy centric. Manuka stadium means they don't have to build a new stadium plus Cricket ACT have signalled their intention to upgrade Manuka so they can get a BBL and One Day Cup team. A third SA or WA team isn't needed, a NT team won't be sustainable and a multi-state team is frankly idiotic.

@@boundaryrider the problem there do the canberra team doesnt get priority over manuka oval they have to talk to GWS Giants who are sponsored by canberra anyway plus GWS Giants have local players at there club so it wont make sense plus Andrew dillion has to talk to the prime minister & the Local premier/president/MP of canberra to make that deal happen But the western Australia team is 75% correct but west coast & fremantle arnt close to perth itself so putting the 20th club 15 to 20 mins away from optus stadium makes perth more challenging for away clubs at the moment west coast are not doing great since 2018 and Fremantle were close to finals every year & adding a perth city club in the city itself will have optus stadium sold out every week unlike now fremantle is the closets to selling optus stadium all together west coast are at least 20,000 fans behind fremantle every week so no to nt act SA we need to add a third wa club with in walking distances of optus stadium otherwise AFL is bad for australia

Can't agree more AFL in CANBERRA would be a strong case, don't forget lower NSW is within the barassi line and Canberra has an affluent population and broader population that is craving for an alternative to rugby.

I don't now how FNQ is an AFL homeland, everyone up there far prefers NRL and rugby has been more popular in QLD since the 1880s.

@@mitchellsmith300 Cairns has more Aussie Rules clubs than Rugby League clubs.

@@dozermc5220 I'm not from Cairns so I can't speak on the matter. But the amount of teams in a local competition doesn't really show how popular a sport is. The fact is FNQ is sparsely populated and after originally struggling for 10 years, the Cowboy s have survived because Townsville and FNQ has become a NRL heartland. The thing is League is a reasonable amount bigger than AFL in Queensland and Townsville is a bigger city( and closer the more people aside the city proper) than Cairns. The fact that the Cowboys struggled with their benefits compared to an AFL team suggests to me an AFL team in FNQ would not be viable.

@@mitchellsmith300 Cairns could never support a team on its own, it's way too small. That's why it would need to be a regional team spanning from Townsville to Darwin. 4 home games a year in each of the 3 cities. I know the grounds only hold 10-15K each at the moment, but everytime the AFL or NRL takes a game to regional centres they're a sell out. That's because regional populations are starved of the opportunity to attend big events. An AFL team in the top end would be the biggest ticket in town. I think the biggest challenge would be getting top level players to want to live up there for their entire careers.

@@dozermc5220bigger population than Geelong

Adelaide is far too small for a third team. 2 teams are enough for 1.4 million people. Port Adelaide were on the brink 12 years ago and had most of the stadium covered in tarps. If a Norwood team ended up in a similar position they would not survive.

@@rhysh2639 bullshit

more than half the crows membership are likely Norwood supporters which would kill the membership base. Norwood should have been entered instead of the crows being created back in 1990. 2 teams is enough for the state of SA

What does it add to the sport? Doenst expand into a new market

@@thatmightyskywalkermullet1141what’s it do for growing the game It’s not a new market

Maybe Mandurah?

@leightonmcdonald1183 But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

If it was going to be anywhere the Sunshine Coast would be it. It would have to be based out of somewhere truly on the Sunshine Coast, not just be a team trying to poach fans from northern Brisbane. If you want to attract the support and the players to the region you're really talking Caloundra or Maroochydore. The nameless, homeless, ephemeral team concept that is the Greater Whatever Wherever Giants is a failure. The Giants should just stick to Western Sydney. A look at how well the Redcliffe Dolphins are doing in the NRL should be essential for any future team, and resolving the whole half-in team concept that GWS has, and Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Western Bulldogs and a lesser degree St Kilda have. The AFL should have let those teams fail then give them the relocation bail out package as their only option, with refusal leading to the AFL revoking their licence. One advantage the US NBA franchise system has is that the franchise can be moved easily. The 10 Victorian teams being based on 19th century demographic trends is utterly stupid today. North should move to Canberra, plenty of Kangaroos there. St Kilda should move out to the Latrobe Valley, or at least the far southeast edge. Western Bulldogs should move to Ballarat. Hawthorn should have moved to Launceston, but I guess it's too late for that now.

@patricklong2642 I certainly DON'T want to add any more AFL Teams at all in all of Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia & Western Australia because (2 Two) AFL Teams is plenty enough as it is in those (4 Four) States but exception for the (ACT Australian Capital Territory) in which where Canberra is that I would hope that Canberra would be included as the new AFL Team to be based in Canberra individually of course. No, we don't need any more other Australian Teams to be added in Queensland, New South Wales, Western Australia & South Australia but except Canberra of course. But however, if just in case that Canberra is NOT going to be chosen as the very next new AFL Team at all THEN I would consider the idea of having a very new & a Very (1st First) team from New Zealand as the Very (1st First) Non-Australian based Australian Rules Football Team be based in either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch of course. Besides that, I would take my chances with a New Zealand (Aotearoa) team as being a Non-Australian based AFL Team being in our AFL Competition rather than having any of a (3rd Third) Western Australian Tean &/or a team from the Northern Territory at all just by a Very Long Shot by a Country Mile of course. The (AFL Australian Football League) should follow their other counterparts all of, (1 One) (FFA Football Federation Australia) who going (2 Two) of their New Zealand (Kiwi) based Teams instead on (1 One) which are Wellington Phoenix & also Auckland in our new (24/25) A-League Soccer Season of course. (2 Two) (NRL National Rugby League) who got (1 One) of their New Zealand (Kiwi) based Team of the New Zealand Warriors in Rugby League Football of course. (3 Three) (ABL Australian Basketball League) who got (1 One) of their New Zealand (Kiwi) based Team of the New Zealand Breakers in Men's Basketball of course. The (AFL Australian Football League) should also consider have a very new & a Very (1st First) Non-Australian AFL Team of a New Zealand (Kiwi) based Team coming from Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch in their AFL Competition because they do have the Australian Rules Football Code being played in their very own Country like we do have Auskick in Australia for our Juniors but over there in New Zealand they do have Kiwikick for their very own Juniors just exactly like our Auskick & also about Australian Rules Football in (NZ New Zealand) that their website is afl.co.nz Also, from Wikipedia is there's a New Zealand Men's National Australian Rules Football Team called the New Zealand Hawks, but their previous original old name was called the New Zealand Falcons & besides that their New Zealand Women's National Australian Rules Football Team are called the New Zealand Kahu. of course. & another reason why we should include a Kiwi Team from (NZ New Zealand) into our AFL Competition is because they had been playing in our (AFIC Australian Football International Cup) Tournaments in Australia for a Number of Years in the Past of course. New Zealand national Australian rules football team The New Zealand national Australian rules football team (Māori: tīmi whutupaoro Ahitereiria o Aotearoa; nicknamed the Hawks (Māori: Ngā Kāhu); previously the Falcons (Māori: Ngā Kārearea), is the national men's team for the sport of Australian rules football in New Zealand. The International Cup team is selected from strict criteria from the best New Zealand born and developed players, primarily from the clubs of the AFL New Zealand. Test and touring squads are selected using similar criteria to other international football codes, additionally allowing players with a New Zealand born parent to play. New Zealand first competed internationally in 1888 and participated in the 1908 Jubilee Australasian Football Carnival. Since the 1970s it has regularly toured Australia and more recently, has hosted Australian teams. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_International_Cup

But nobody cares about AFL in NZ. How will they make any money?

Auckland base only location where it’d stack up

@@jamesmunn867 Not really NZ is a even more over-satured sports country than Australia is.

@@mitchellsmith300 about 30,000 play AFL in Auckland where it has 1.8 million population and it has no rival sport with Rugby only being a similar flight to Perth so it’ll stack up just need a proper oval with a 20,000+ capacity stadium which worked with the NRL, NBL, Netball and A-League so why not AFL it only seems realistic especially with sporting broadcasting rights 💰

St Kilda tried but wasn't very successful. New Zealand used to play Aussie Rules quite a bit. They were in our earliest form of State of Origin.

@doylersafl8728 Yes very indeed so that I would love to see Canberra to the (20th) AFL Team in Australian Rules Football to be based in Canberra along with both Canberra Raiders (NRL) in Rugby League Football & the ACT Brumbies (Super Rugby) in Rugby Union Football & also that Canberra will have a Men's-Aleague Team in Football (Soccer) by (FFA) towards the end of this year for our new A-League Soccer (24/25) Season & so far right now they got only a Women's A-League Team for their Women's A-League Soccer Competition for some years of course. But if on the other hand if Canberra becomes unsuccessful as the next new AFL Team, THEN the AFL should consider get new AFL Team to be established in New Zealand from either from Auckland, Wellington from the North Island & perhaps from Christchurch from the South Island in which any of them would &/or will become the very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian based AFL Team in the whole AFL History of having an Australian Rules Football Team from overseas outside of Australia of another Country just have look at some examples from all the (FFA Football Federation Australia) with their Wellington Phoenix Team in our A-League Soccer Competition for both Men's & Women's Teams & also the A-League Soccer Competition will have Auckland as the (2nd Second) New Zealand Team for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competition also (FFA) towards the end of this year for our new A-League Soccer (24/25) Season & also include with others of the (NRL National Rugby League) with their New Zealand Warriors Team, (ABL Australian Basketball League) with their New Zealand Breakers Team & I do think & do believe that the (AFL Australian Football League) should follow these trends of what the (FFA Football Federation Australia), (NRL National Rugby League) & the (ABL Australian Basketball League) are doing of having a New Zealand (Kiwi) AFL Team of either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch in our AFL Competition for the Very (1st First) time as well too of course.

Who the hell wants to go to NT the humidity and the hard surfaces would create issue

Why would you spread a team across so many places

Which means maintaining 4 AFL stadiums. Huge travel costs for that team, and any teams playing with them too. Injured players not being able to fly back with the team or risking aggravating their injuries. Who wants to be trapped in Alice for 3 days before they're allowed to get a flight home?

@brendanhartzer5712 Yes that would be very good idea for the AFL to promote their games in all of (FNQ Far North Queensland) in Cairns & (NQ North Queensland) in both Townsville & Mackey & in (CQ Central Queensland) in Rockhampton (Rocky) but EXCLUDING (NWQ North West Queensland) in Mount Isa which is Very Unfortunately & Very Sadly, but yes the AFL had their AFL Games in Alice Springs & also that the (NRL) who also did had their very own Rugby League Games in both Darwin & Alice Springs in the past before of course. But however, let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

@@brendoncrofts6714Cairns team. Far north QLD is still more humid then the NT but would work well

Port and Norwood hate each other and I think the number of fans of both clubs would be lucky to get into the hundreds, let alone the thousands. You're right about the Crows though; although I see the numbers being about 10k as most fans are AFL first, especially given the demographics of fans changing over the past 34 years since the Crows formed.

No they wouldn't, Norwood are not that popular mate although some supporters think they are.

Agreed, I'm a crows man but always Norwood, many would make the switch, so Adelaide crows would push hard to ensure they don't receive a licence

@MyUrbanExplorationOnline But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

@markhardley1951 But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

Cheers mate

Could not agree more! Also even if it was to go ahead the act government would have to build a new stadium 🏟 and where would it be? Also when gws aren't playing in Canberra hardly any Canberrians actually support them. Even when gws are in Canberra, punters go to the game for something to do, not because they're passionate giants followers so bottom line is, what difference would a stand alone act team make

You act as if the Raiders are struggling club. They made the GF 5 years ago and are pretty consistently in the finals

@@mitchellsmith300 they can not attract players, can not keep the players they develop. Their strength is developing players and using them before the leave. An AFL team would need half again the number of players on a list. Not possible.

Canberra is by FAR the best option. GWS don't sell out games because the people in Canberra don't consider them to be a Canberra team. They loosely follow them because they don't yet have their own side. People in Canberra are pretty much neutral when it comes to AFL vs NRL, they tend to appreciate all sports. I can see crowds of near 20,000 from the very beginning once Canberra get their own team. The ACT has a population that is almost the size of the whole of Tasmania, but all in one spot. There's also the surrounding Riverina region. Plus, you cannot really call the AFL a "national league" without a team in the nation's capital. Norwood would fail, Adelaide is far too small for a third team. Even Port Adelaide nearly folded 12 years ago.

@@CAD390 I can't support GWS, becausze it is essentially a Sydney team that is usung Canberra to milk some money and pretend to give us a team. It was the worst idea ever to think 3 AFL games a year of a sydney club would suffice.

Cheers mate. If u have the time I’d love for you to check out part 2. Check the pinned comment if u want to watch

Cheers mate. Hope u stick around for part 2… Drops tomorrow at 3pm AEST

Idk a Darwin team would be tricky. I think a Cairns team is the best option

I’d love the name of the Warriors to a club. Surprised someone hasn’t taken it already tbh

Part 2 coming soon. I think it is a little more than population but I think it is an important factor that needs to b taken into account

Canberra cookatoos could work too I think

@fido5132 If Canberra does (NOT) get an (AFL) Team at all for whatever reason/s at all THEN the (AFL) should really consider to establish a very brand new (AFL) Team to be based in New Zealand (Aotearoa) as a Kiwi Team either in Auckland &/or Wellington of the North Island &/or even perhaps in Christchurch of the South Island in which they are going to be our Australia's very new & Very (1st First) Non-Australian (AFL) Team to up in our (AFL) Competition besides that either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch New Zealand (AFL) Team would heaps better choice of course. It WON'T even hurt at all to have a Kiwi (AFL) side in our AFL Competition & also (NO) Harm for both New Zealand (Aotearoa) & our (AFL) Competition altogether at all either of course. Besides that, our (NRL) of the New Zealand Warriors in Rugby League & FFA of the Wellington Phoenix in our A-League Soccer Competition and later on there will be both Canberra for the Men's Team & Auckland for both Men's & Women's Teams for Soccer but Canberra do have a Women's A-League Team in Soccer & in our (ABL) are the New Zealand Breakers of course.

Yeah North Melbourne have to go and at least one more Victorian club. No room for sympathy here. Remember keep South at South.

I hope that is a compliment haha

@@boundaryrider Definitely is

Cheers mate. If I’m the equivalent of 20% of Vizeh. We’re doing something right haha

The adelaide hills is not a logical option.

Fastest growing region in the country? Based on what? Not actual statistics, that's for sure. The ABS says the three fastest growing places in the country are Perth, Melbourne and Brisbane.

Redcliffe, really? That's like putting an NRL team in Frankston.

@@BurningMad Same would apply to a Norwood or Joondalup...no point in having teams there either.

@jamielmorgan8533 But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

@@jamielmorgan8533 I disagree because SA and WA are footy states but Queensland is not. Norwood might struggle because SA may not have enough people for 3 teams, but WA certainly does.

Not enough corporate sponsorship, much further away from Perth than Geelong is from Melbourne, no stadium. I think people really underestimate how important having a good stadium is. Note the AFL demanded Tasmania build a new stadium if they wanted a team.

@@BurningMad so they need a good stadium, but it’s OK for Tasmania to get a new team when they are building one from scratch? There is nothing to stop a company like Western Power or Iluka Resources sponsoring a SW team. Bunbury is under two hours from Perth and the SW is a hugely popular travel destination for City people who flock down every long weekend.

@@Pemby09 yes, if the WA govt builds a new 23 000 seat stadium in the South West, then I'm sure the AFL will heavily consider putting a team there. But there isn't one for now so it's a critical weakness of any South West bid. And if the WA govt are spending all that money on a stadium for this team, are they really going to give more millions in sponsorship through Western Power which is government owned? I doubt it. A holiday destination doesn't mean anything for attendance if there aren't enough passionate locals to show up every week, or the Gold Coast would have sold out every home game for years. I have no doubt that the people of the South West are passionate about football, but for now there aren't enough of them. When the population rises by 100 000 then it might be a viable option.

Talk to Tasmania. They spent years not even having a state league because they couldn't agree on the concept.

That’s the unfortunate nature of AFL in parts of NSW & Queensland but it’s great to see the game growing in those quote ‘Rugby states’

I agree. And personally, I’d like the North Melbourne kangaroos move to Newcastle to become the Newcastle Kangaroos. Because I’d like to have a furry name sports team based in Newcastle in world level. And I think to pull this off, we need to expand on number 1 sports ground. But problem is that Newcastle is more rugby league. And for that, I think we’d have better luck on having a second NRL team in Newcastle than an AFL team even.

@@Footagebybruzo Also that Newcastle (NOT) Only have a (NRL) Team but also you forgot to mention that Newcastle also have a (FFA) Team called the Newcastle Jets in both of our Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions as well too of course.

There's only one decent potential AFL stadium in New Zealand and it's in Wellington it won't work in Wellington for commercial reasons it has to be in Auckland currently Auckland don't have an oval Stadium would be decent for AFL

@@simon.hughes3009 they need a 20,000+ cricket oval built in Auckland which has already been proposed with a 1.8 million population surrounding it as it’s base Wellington is too small and an unviable option

No big deal.

Really? 3 teams in nsw? Why would NSW get 3 afl teams before SA and WA. Not happening.

@@jackhudson2237 Eh, you'd think, but remember the AFL seems to want to grow the game outside of traditional Footy heartlands. While I think the cases for a Northern Perth team or the Redlegs making the jump up are pretty good (although I worry about the issue with the Redlegs needing to alter their colours in order to do it- it went down SO well with the Power after all), I feel like a Canberra team is probably going to probably be the most attractive option to them in that sense. I think the AFL's other main consideration is financial; which option would bring in the most money, where's the largest untapped market? On that front, again, Canberra probably looks attractive to them; a fairly affluent city of about half a million where interest in the AFL is catching up to interest in the NRL. Question is, has the AFL learned anything about the pitfalls of whistling a team up basically out of nowhere? The tainted drafts of 2011 and 2012, for example. I wouldn't be confident that the answer is yes.

@jgraaay18 yes, I think the AFL needs to introduce a club that will actually make the game money. Yes the Redlegs have to change colour, but that's a mild sacrifice they have to make if they're serious in joining the league. As for WA, the West Perth Falcons (Joondalup) would also be a great choice for the AFL as the Joondalup area is building to become its own city within Perth. Honestly, imo the AFL should fold Gold Coast and give both the Redlegs and Falcons a license for the 19th and 20th clubs. The Suns won't grow, QLD should just be a Lions state.

​@@jackhudson2237SA and WA are too small for 3 teams. Adelaide only has 1.4 million people and Perth is not much better with just over 2 million. Two teams each are enough for these areas

​​@@jackhudson2237Gold Coast get better attendances than GWS despite being arguably the worst performing side in the modern era. No finals in 12 years is absolutely appalling. A club is not going to grow very well when they have been so poor on the field. Despite all this, the Suns still have a staunch supporter base, albeit small. There is nothing to be gained by putting another team in Adelaide or Perth. Firstly the population is too small, secondly it is already AFL heartland and does not grow the game and increase the talent pool. Canberra is the best option for team 20 and it's not even close

Lol, Broome is never going to get an AFL match, barely anyone lives there. The average suburb in Melbourne has a larger population than Broome.

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@TBoneTony But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

@@user-we8ue9qy9l While I do think New Zealand would be a good rival club to Tasmania, I honestly don't think there would be much support especially after the few ANZAC games that were played in New Zealand having low support. However there may be some strong Phoenix supporters that would get behind the AFL club to give them something to support during the winter months.

I just commented that a Canberra based team would make for the best option for the 20th team. Given ACT, and greater New South Wales between Yas/Murrumbidgee river's to the north of Canberra and the Murray River. That whole area has to encompass a population closer too 600,000 people. Doing so would serve the ACT market, but also serve southern New South Wales market as a whole.

@TheGreatLordDufus Its NOT Only that Canberra got both Rugby Union of the ACT Brumbies Team & the Rugby League of the Canberra Raiders but also that Canberra will a very new Men's Football &/or Soccer Team to enter our A-League Soccer Competition& so far right now that there's Women's Football &/or Soccer Team had already been our A-League W Soccer Competition for a Number of Years of course. Just in case if Canberra can (NOT) get an (AFL) Team of their own into our (AFL) Competition at all THEN I would love to see & want to have a New Zealand (Aotearoa) Team either from Auckland, Wellington of the North Island of New Zealand &/or from Christchurch of the South Island of New Zealand & besides that would Very Good & Very Perfect Example to have a Very (1st First) Non-Australian based AFL Team from either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch in New Zealand to play & being included in our (AFL) Competition of course.

Bit of an adventurous idea. I do highly doubt a VIC side would move to WA but hey ur opinion is yours and I like the creative thinking mate. Think we have to b open minded when it comes to a 20th team.

@wheresgolberg But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

Far North Queensland makes the most sense. WA dosent need another

@@tropic2860 Here's away better idea THAN having any (NQ North Queensland) AFL Tean at all is that I would &/or will RATHER take my chances of having an very brand new (AFL) Team to be based in New Zealand (Aotearoa) as a Kiwi Team either in Auckland &/or Wellington of the North Island &/or in Christchurch of the South Island in which they are going to be our Australia's very new & Very (1st First) Non-Australian (AFL) Team to up in our (AFL) Competition besides that either Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch New Zealand (AFL) Team would heaps better choice RATHER than having any (NQ North Queensland) (AFL) Team of course.

Usually when I say Rugby state I am referring to league. That’s how most south Aussies refer to Rugby in this state. Tbh I don’t even recognise Rugby ‘Union’ as a big sport anymore but I am seeing that Union is becoming less popular and I can understand the confusion. PS part 2 is coming soon so if you liked this video get ready for Part 2. And appreciate the kind words and feedback mate.

@@boundaryrider Away back in the (1980s) I use play all of the (3 Three) Football Codes all except the Australian Rules Football Code at all but the Football Codes that I actually did play in the (1980s) were both Rugby Union Football & Rugby League Football & Football (Soccer) Codes in Mount Isa, Queensland and the difference between the both of the Rugby Football Codes which are in Union there are only (15 Fifteen) Players per team which you have (30 Thirty) Players out on the Field & in League there are only (13) Players per team which you have (26 Twenty-Six) Players out on the Field and both of their very own laws &/or rules of playing are very similar but totally very different from each other & yes we both know that in Football (Soccer) there are only (11 Eleven) Players per team which you have (22 Twenty-Two) Players out on the Field, of course.

@@boundaryrider Also for the Women is that when we (Australia) & New Zealand who both shared & hosted altogether of our (2023 Twenty Twenty Three) FIFA Women's World Cup Football (Soccer) Tournament Event last year & besides that we (Australia) & may be New Zealand is going to host our (2029 Twenty Twenty Nine) RWC Women's Rugby World Cup Tournament Event in Rugby Union Football in (5 Five) years' time from this year of (2024 Twenty Twenty Four) of course.

Starting Part 2 coming & next week we take a deeper look into WA.

Not going to happen, face facts, they're gone bro, but look on the bright side, they're gone bro...

The AFL has to stop financially supporting the struggling teams unless there is a long term strategic interest in doing so.

Can u explain why

@@boundaryrider NT is out because population is way too small, climate is too hot (and wet at the start of the season and for pre season training) so would need an indoor, air conditioned stadium. Population in Nth Qld is also too small and limited interest outside Cairns. Would probably need an indoor stadium too due to climate. It’s a lot to ask players to fly for 2+ hours for half their home games as well. SA3 Is unlikely because the Adelaide market isn’t big enough, 1.5M for 3 teams is about 500k each. WA3 is the next best option 2.2M for 3 teams is 733k each. But I think the team would have limited support initially as everyone already supports one of the two teams. Canberra has a population of 466k in 2023 - and is growing to 784k by 2060 - much faster than NT or SA. The public already turns out for AFL games and has a decent stadium - just needs a few renovations to increase capacity. Climate is similar to Melbourne/Sydney - but colder in winter. It’s only a 40 minute flight to Melbourne so player retention should be easier than NT. It’s another team in an NRL/Rugby area which can grow the game. They could play a game or two in Wagga Wagga / Albury to grown the game in southern NSW and service the Riverina which is a strong Aussie rules area. It also means the Giants can play 11 games in Western Sydney and become a full time Sydney team so they can grow in that market more.

Canberra's vibrant grassroots AFL scene is a strong foundation for hosting the 20th AFL team. The city boasts a well-established network of local clubs across various divisions, showing a deep community engagement with Aussie Rules. This solid local participation suggests a ready fan base and a thriving culture for the sport. Furthermore, having an AFL team in Canberra would enhance development pathways for local talent, allowing athletes to progress from grassroots to professional levels right at home. This setup retains local talent and could strengthen the team with home-grown players.

@@rn8427 Plus, I think Cricket ACT is already looking to move on upgrading Manuka Oval?

If Canberra was an option, there would have been a ton of interest in GWS there. It could have been an opportunity to even swipe the club's base from Sydney into Canberra had it been a huge success. The reception in Canberra has been fairly lack luster. The AFL would have also taken a Canberra bid more seriously than Western Sydney if they thought it had potential. With a lack of AFL support, and very little interest in the 1/4 home base GWS is giving it, I'd put Darwin above Canberra (and I rank Darwin very low), unless GWS were to move to Canberra full time and abandon the 'Greater Western' part of its title. It would also need a huge amount of attention towards building it, which I can't see the AFL wanting to have to do again. While there is an AFL fan base in the capital, they don't care enough for their own team.

A new team is a financial proposition, it has nothing to do with how many players a region can produce, or the NT would already have a team, and so would Bendigo. For a new team, a place needs to have a reasonably large population that cares enough about AFL to go to games, the ability to get local corporate or government sponsors, and a good stadium. Note that Tasmania had the first two and still had to build a new stadium to get a team. The problem with Queensland is most people don't care about the game. The only places with enough people and corporate sponsors to make a team viable are Brisbane and the Gold Coast, and they already have teams. Canberra has people and potential government sponsors, but doesn't have a new stadium and probably won't build one soon. Perth 3 has Optus Stadium and would be in a very fast growing city that loves AFL and has plenty of corporate sponsors available. And importantly, attracting new fans will cut into West Coast's base. West Coast are already a financial superpower club (highest revenue and profit of all clubs before Covid struck), and they don't need to get any more powerful than they are.

In part 2 I go into more depth and fix my mistake about Joondalup. Check the pinned comment if your interested mate 👍

@jaxongilmour Yes it would be a very good idea to have AFL Team based in Darwin but on the other which is Very Unfortunately & Very Sadly because due to Darwin's very rainy & very hot climates that do have up there it very most UNLIKELY for Darwin to have a new AFL Team to be established up there at all but you got a better chance to establish a very new Kiwi AFL Team to be established in New Zealand rather than the Northern Territory just by very long shot of course. But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

The Northern Territory isn’t a state….

Yeah I made a mistake in the video about that. I’m planning on doing a part 2 discussing more in depth about the Northern Suburbs of WA as well as the ACT and NZ. Should b out on Monday

@Riku006 But let's be perspective. on the issue of the AFL should really expand outside of their squared circle by going to New Zealand to establish a very new Very (1st First) Non-Australian Kiwi AFL Team to be based in New Zealand and you may notice that (1 One) Auckland from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the NRL Team of New Zealand Warriors & also have the New Zealand Breakers in the (ABL) & will be getting their new Soccer Team for both Men's & Woman's A-League Competitions from the FFA of course. (2 Two) Wellington also from the North Island of New Zealand actually do have the FFA A-League Team of Wellington Phoenix for both Men's & Women's A-League Soccer Competitions & may be the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL)Competition as well too of course. (3 Three) Christchurch from the South Island of New Zealand who DON'T any both of FFA A-League Teams & the NRL Teams based in Christchurch at all but only possibly the New Zealand Breakers from the (ABL) instead and since that there are (NO) Christchurch based teams from both the FFA A-League & the NRL Competitions at all THEN the AFL should consider to have a very new AFL Team to be based in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand because its more closer across the Tasman to Tasmania and besides all of rest of the other AFL Teams to play their AFL Games against each other in both Home & Away basis in all of, Christchurch in New Zealand, Melbourne, Hobart, Brisbane & also the Gold Coast, Sydney, Adelaide & Perth in Australia, of course.

@@user-we8ue9qy9l sadly, I don’t see the AFL ever expanding to New Zealand. The main reason why is they’ve tried to engender the game there previously in ANZAC day games (usually hosted by St. Kilda), and there wasn’t much interest. There are stars of New Zealand descent in the AFL (like Dustin Martin for example), but if the Kiwis haven’t caught the footy bug by now, I don’t think they ever will. Then there’s the logistical issues, in that the New Zealand team would have to travel more than any other team in the league, even more so than the West Australian teams. So, while a nice thought, no. New Zealand is likely to never get a team in the AFL. Darwin, despite all their economic issues, are a more viable option than New Zealand.

It's not even the largest northern suburb though.

Could be an idea

Interesting take. I wouldn’t mind a Newcastle team entering the comp. I do think it will b difficult to see a 20th team from NSW or QLD just yet as I think they will want to get the popularity for the Gold Coast and Western Sydney area before a new team in either state. But u have some valid points. Love it mate

The stadium isn't a minor issue - it's THE issue. The AFL wants impressive stadiums that it can make money from, which is why they demanded Tasmania build a new stadium instead of just using Bellerive and York Park. If Newcastle doesn't have that, it won't get a team.

@@BurningMad Fair enough, however Newcastle and Tasmania are two differing issues. You said "just use Bellerive and York Park". Won't happen with Bellerive. Bellerive is owned by the TCA, and they have a strong dislike of having football played on their oval. Also Bellerive is a lot lot worse to travel to and from than say Downtown Hobart. So now it is clear to say why they demanded a new stadium. But having said that, you are right about Newcastle. If they get a license they will need a stadium, there is no other option. But NSW will invest in that build, they always do.

@@redthezz Tasmania shows what is needed for an expansion team: a good stadium. Newcastle doesn't have that, whether it's near the CBD or not. That's why I brought it up. Maybe the NSW government will invest in such a stadium, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Norwood is not sustainable. Adelaide's population is too small for 3 AFL teams. Port Adelaide were struggling 13 years ago and couldn't get bums on seats. Tarps were used all over the ground. If a Norwood side went through the same thing as Port did, they would not last. Putting a third side in SA or WA does not grow the game or increase the talent pool.

@@rhysh2639 Why do fans think it's about population ? It's all about participation. Port Adelaide turned their club around by moving to Adelaide Oval. Norwood is only 5 km from Adelaide so the fans will come. The other attraction for the next licence from SA is their proven ability to consistently hold major events that hold high attendance rates. Tour Down Under Liv Golf Crows AFLW grand final Adelaide United grand final SANFL grand finals involving Norwood State of Origin rugby Adelaide 500 Gather Round games at Norwood where Andrew Dillon attended and was impressed by the crowd numbers who also attended the Norwood Food and Wine Festival literally held at Norwood's front door.

@@gregrobins5615 Because only a very small percentage of the population is actually going to support the team. On top of that, Adelaide is already an Aussie Rules dominant city with 2 established teams, everyone there who follows the AFL already have their team. Norwood might attract a few older people who supported them back in the day, but that's about as far as it would go. Andrew Dillion also hinted (that while he respects the history of the club) Norwood is simply not sustainable and won't be the 20th team. Plus putting another Adelaide team in just won't grow the game and expand the talent pool.

No they are not, the talk alot as if they are but that's people with big heads, their supporter base is no bigger than Sturt, North or Torrens now called Eagles, if they get in it will be to do with money.

@@rhysh2639 Norwood would be a perfect fit, finally bringing the Port-Norwood rivalry to the national stage where it should have been several decades ago. It has the history,the dormant fans and importantly the corporate backing. With GWS,Gold Coast and now Tassie the AFL has chosen to include lightweight entities. Norwood and/or WA3 would be substantial hitters and more than hold their own. Competition for the licence will be stiff.

They could team up with Darwin and, say, northern WA from Geraldton north.

Only one that’ll stack up based in Auckland 👍🇳🇿

@@jamesmunn867but for some reason/s if (NOT) Auckland at all THEN one that'll stack in Wellington on the North Island of New Zealand &/or even perhaps one that'll stack up in Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand would be a better choice of course.

@@user-we8ue9qy9l i agree but that would be in long term foreseeable future like in the NT and ACT but in the shorter term Auckland is the most viable then could still host games in Wellington and Christchurch but basewise it’ll have to be Auckland given the almost 2 million population there St Kilda are trying to bring games back there once the cricket stadium gets built in Auckland

@@jamesmunn867 But I was just thinking of Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand simply because for a couple of reasons of why because it's the ONLY Kiwi City in the whole Country that DOESN'T have any (FFA Football Federation Australia) A-League Soccer Team based there at all & besides it DOESN'T have any (NRL National Rugby League) Team based there either at all but however since Christchurch DON'T have any of those Teams based in there at all THEN I would think & do believe that that the (AFL Australian Football League) should consider the idea to base a Team right there in Christchurch because since the Tasmania Devils who entering our (AFL) Competition is that Christchurch is more closer to Hobart in distance rather than from either Auckland &/or Wellington to Hobart in distance meaning that it more longer in travel from the North Island of New Zealand to both Hobart in Tasmania & basically the very same thing travelling from Hobart in Tasmania back to the North Island of New Zealand rather THAN comparing to from the South Island of New Zealand to Hobart in Tasmania & basically again from Hobart in Tasmania back to the South Island of New Zealand, of course. But however, you made a very interesting point about what said about Auckland because considering there are 2 Two Million or more of the population of people that would be considered as a reason of why to have a very new & the Very (1st First) Non-Australian (AFL) Team to join in our (AFL) Competition to be based there in Auckland & besides that all of our Australian based teams here in Australia all from, (FFA Football Federation Australia) of the Australian A-League Soccer Teams, (NRL National Rugby League) of the Australian Teams in Rugby League Football & (RA Rugby Australia) of the Australian Super Rugby Teams of the Super Rugby Competition in Rugby Union Football, who are all travel to either Auckland, Wellington & Christchurch for all of their Game Matches all over there in New Zealand & basically the very same thing as the New Zealander (Aotearoa) Teams who travel to either Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Canberra, Newcastle, Gold Coast, Central Coast, Townsville &/or Cairns for Football as in Soccer, Rugby League Football & Rugby Union Football for all of their Game Matches all over here in Australia, of course. Also, the very same thing basically if all of our Australian based (AFL) Teams here in Australia who are all travel to either Auckland, Wellington & Christchurch for all of their Game Matches all over there in New Zealand & basically the very same thing as the New Zealander (Aotearoa) AFL Team either from Auckland, Wellington &/or Christchurch who travel to either Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Gold Coast, Tasmania &/or may be (1 One) AFL Game Match to be played every year in Townsville or Cairns &/or perhaps both for all of their (AFL) Game Matches all over here in Australia, of course.

Move GWS to actually be the Western Sydney team it's meant to be and put a new team in Canberra.

Newcastle is an obvious choice for another NSW team.

Sorry I lost focus after you said ‘I don’t’

A fair fixture would mean more home games for non-Victorian clubs. It's ridiculous that a Melbourne team can play 17-18 games in Victoria and travel five times, while an interstate team travels guaranteed every other week

Part 2 out today. Canberra is covered

@thejokingcat783 No & Very Most Unlikely to have the Coburg Lions to enter our (AFL) Competition at all because we do have (1 One) Lions Team already which are our Brisbane Lions Team from Brisbane & Only (1 One) Lions Team is really enough & we DON'T need another Lions Team in our (AFL) Competition at all of course.

But the ACT has teams in national competitions and they're not a state either.

Part 2 out today. Canberra is covered

Queensland has like double the population. That's the defining factor.

@@AndyViant That’s not the defining factor, plus Queensland is a rugby state so that doubled population would likely already be rugby sided people. The AFL would be trying to win them over like they already are trying and GC still are struggling with members, adding another Queensland team would just be another uphill struggle. WA is an AFL state with rich AFL history.

@@Elite23440 Yes I am originally from Queensland as a Banana Bender myself quite frankly of what you said about my old home State of Queensland is a Rugby State but however you understand & do know that we do have (2 Two) Very Completely Rugby Football Codes altogether which are called both (1 One) Rugby League Football Code & (2 Two) Rugby Union Football Code of course. (1 One) In Rugby League Football there are only (13 Thirteen) Players per team but (26 Twenty-Six) Players out on the Playing Field & but there are (NO) Line Outs & Rucks & Mauls at all, Point Scoring which are A Try is worth (4 Four) Points, A Conversion Kick after Try been Scored is Worth (2 Two) Points, A Penalty Kick is Worth (2 Two) Points & finally A Drop Goal Kick as in Field Goal Kick is Worth (1 One) Point & also including a Penalty Try is Worth (8 Eight Points) with (NO) Conversion Kick attempted at all of course. (2 Two) In Rugby Union Football there are only (15 Fifteen) Players per team but (30 Thirty) Players out on the Playing Field & but there are Line Outs & Rucks & Mauls, Point Scoring which are A Try is worth (5 Five) Points, A Conversion Kick after Try been Scored is Worth (2 Two) Points, A Penalty Kick is Worth (3 Three) Points & finally A Drop Goal Kick as in Field Goal Kick is Worth (2 Two) Points & & also including a Penalty Try is Worth (7 Seven Points) with (NO) Conversion Kick attempted at all of course. Yes, Queensland just like New South Wales are both mainly (NRL) States & yes that both South Australia & Western Australia use to have both (NRL) Teams of (1 One) Adelaide Rams based in Adelaide & also (2 Two) Perth Western Reds based in Perth, both for our (NRL) Rugby League Football Competition of course. In Perth DON'T Forget that they DON'T ONLY have a (FFA Football Federation Australia) A-League Soccer Team of Perth Glory but besides also they have a (RA Rugby Australia) of Western Force in the Super Rugby Competition in Rugby Union Football of course. Coming from Queensland that we have the (NRL) Teams of our Brisbane Broncos, North Queensland Cowboys, Gold Coast Titans, Brisbane Dolphins & also in the A-League Soccer Competition we do have our Brisbane Roar was once used to be called Queensland Roar & also in the Super Rugby Competition we have our Queensland Reds & finally also in the (AFL) we have our Brisbane Lions & Gold Coast Suns, of course. In Melbourne you have both of (FFA Football Federation Australia) A-League Soccer Teams both of Melbourne City & Melbourne Victory & also both Rugby Football Code Teams in an Australian Rules Football State of Victoria that they both based in Melbourne which are the (NRL) Team of Melbourne Storm in Rugby League Football & the (RA Rugby Australia) of the Super Rugby Team of Melbourne Rebels in Rugby Union Football of course.

You'd think that with a Tasmanian team, Hawthorn will eventually lose the $13.5 million deal with Tassie, and then financially they're in a world of hurt too. The only saving grace for Hawthorn is a possibility that the north of Tasmania will probably not take to what they'll see as a Hobart team rather than a Tasmanian team. It's still possible Tasmania might end up with 2 teams, one being a relocated Hawks.

@AndyViant I am not sure what will happen with the hawthorn deal, hawks have done well in Tasmania with its members, there might be a continuing deal with them and form a rivalry with the Devils ?

@@tronley77 it's certainly a possibility, but it won't continue on with Tasmanian government sponsorship. So who else in northern Tasmania has the sponsorship money? It's not like there's a Gunns anymore. Maybe Boags? (Cascade is in Hobart) but the AFL is really not doing alcohol sponsorship these days. Tassal is owned by the Canadians now, and MyState is based in Hobart, as are all of the biggest Tasmanian companies. Unless UTAS itself can subsidise the Hawks, which I doubt the Tassie Government would allow, Hawthorn would have to play games there out of love. Or the Tasmania Devils would have to basically be boycotted by the north of Tassie to force the state government to subsidise Hawthorn. One wildcard opportunity is a national company, say a bank, might see it as a chance to build market share in northern Tasmania (without being concerned about losing business in the south). Maybe Bendigo bank might do that, but I can't see a NAB or CBA doing so as the Hobart market is too lucrative.

@AndyViant only company I can think of is st Luke's health they are a northern company, hydro can fund as well through the mainland company momentum, there is also sprit of Tasmania if they pull the north Melbourne sponsorship and possibly country club casino

@@tronley77 Hydro is state owned so is unlikely to undermine the State position of one tassie team. St Luke's is really about the only viable candidate I could see.