As a kid back in 1970’s my Mom used the Savage 99 in 250-3000 my Aunt Jean had the 99 in .243 my Grand ma had the 99 in .250 My grand father had the 99 in .300. The deer camp was full of Sage 99’s Late on I used my Mom’s rifle for fox hunting. We have talked about reloading for it or rebarreling it. Every other year there is ammo turned out for it. My mom was a fast and deadly shot with the 99 taking many deer and elk. Many on the run. Her rifle was stolen. She tried a Remington 760 in .243 but gave it up and took over her mother’s 99 in .250-3000. My brother now has the rifle as mom is 90 years old.

I just inherited my Dad's 99 in 250-3000. He bought it new in 1948 when he was 14, after saving all summer, and took his first deer on Thanksgiving day. It's my most treasured firearm. Thanks for doing this video! New subscriber!

I agree 100% I have been hunting 55 plus years, if it's not broke don't fix it.

I had a Ruger M77 RSI in 250-3000. It was a tack driver and I took many white tails with it when I was younger. I loved that rifle. Sadly it was stolen. Thank you for the history lesson!

I have recently got a Savage 99 in 250-Savage and just got a loud developed. Here in New Zealand ammunition for the 250-3000 is very hard to find, so reloading is the only option. I love the history of these older cartridge. I've taken a couple of goats with it and am looking forward to getting a deer with it very soon. Thanks for a great video.

Well spoken . I use old fashioned 3006and 303 and a year ago my wife bought me a 99 savage take down in 243 and I prefer these older rifles and calibers, and being in New Zealand our deer season is all year round so these rifles get used often and I do find it amazing how many people rubbish the older calibers even though they quite often out shoot the modern ones with people that are used to actually hunting rather than sitting back hundreds of metres and shooting and quite often cannot find the animal they shot

I built a .250 Savage on an old Savage Model 10 action that I had. Shilen barrel, 1:8 twist. I use H4831sc with Sierra 117 grain boolits. . My rifle likes 40.5 grs All three of my children took their first deer with it, and one elk too. All taken at less than 100 yards.

I have hunted with a 250 Sav for the past 50 years. I still have my first rifle, a 1986 Swedish Mauser sporterized and re-barreled for the 250. Over the years I added a Ruger M77 and a Rem 700 Classic both in 250. I reload for it, and I let my stepson borrow my Ruger M77 when his 243 was in the shop. After he took several deer with it, I never got it back! He sold his 243 since.

My Dad had a 250-3000 for many years. He made some amazing shots. He said the close shots were the hard shots. Just before he passed he gave it to me. My eyes don't like open sights anymore but my Dad did. He ground the rear sight down until there was only a small V left. He said those big ears get in the way and it's hard to see the deer. If the deer was moving witch happened quite often, he would aim ahead of the deer and wait for the deer to cross the sights. We covered a lot of miles making drives back then so a lot of the deer were on the move when he saw them. His aiming tactic worked well for him and put a lot of meat on the table. That's what it was about back then, it wasn't about the trophy. My Dad loved that gun. I have a Browning BLR 243 With a scope, and I love the magazine, so the 250 Savage will never get used but I know what it can do.

Up here in Canada the 250 savage still has quite a following still. Demand far outpaces factory ammo. I reload so I'm ok. BTW Savage started quickening the rifling twist before 1961. Many in the 1930s have a 1:12 and some have closer to 1:10. My 1946 model 99 take down has a gunsmith measured 1:11 actually. I shoot 75gr Vmax bullets @ 3200 fos for predators, 90gr CX bullets @ 2900 fps for mule/whitetail deer as well as black bear in a pinch. 87 gr BTSP @ 3000 fps are used for speed goat. I also load 100 gr bullets @ 2900 fps as a general all around bullet to have on hand. My old takedown has taken down many deer and coyotes with these loads. My favorite caliber 😉

I don't subscribe to very many channels but i like this guy's common sense approach ❤

Thank you for this... I love this caliber, and the savage 99. My father handed down his to me when I turned 16. Has NEVER let me down when I do my part! Almost 60 now, have many guns, still my go to gun....

Another great video! As a trivia tidbit, an account from one of the field tests for the 250-3000 in 1914 tells about how Charles Newton presented a long action 25 caliber cartridge using a 100gr bullet to Savage, and told Savage they needed to lengthen their Model 1899 action for it. This was probably similar to his later 25 Newton cartridge. Savage declined to lengthen their action, and a Savage engineer reworked Newton's long action cartridge down to the short action 250-3000. Then Savage went with the 87gr bullet and slower twist rate to get 3000fps.

I know that the .300 Savage is quite popular in Europe partly because a few countries don't allow their residents to own NATO-chambered calibers. Good video! I too am a fan of older hunting calibers--they get the job done!

Due to my age I am listing very shortly my Savage 1899 model 250-3000. It has all the bells and whistles of that model......fancy walnut perch belly stock, tang sight, takedown, and the rare checkered trigger

I have a Savage model 20 bolt action built in 1921 with a original steel tube Weaver K4 have used it for 30 years am retiring it and have a real light weight rifle built on a m700 REM in 250 Savage in 1-10 twist I love this cartridge 🦌

So pleased to see this video. I have my father's Savage in this caliber. Bolt action. Old but sweet. #2941. Thanks, Ed

Great review or talk I enjoyed it it’s great to relive memories with your dad I have a few of my own thanks for sharing

So happy to see this video ! I happened to read Larry Koller's "Shots at Whitetails" early 2022. I read the whole thing in one weekend. I'll preface with I'm a lever collector. My first passion was Marlins, then Brownings, the Savages, and finally Winchesters. I wouldn't mind finding an affordable Sako Finnwolf either.... I bought my first Savage in 2019, an early 70's 99F and have been kicking myself in the ass for not buying them when they could be had for pennies on today's dollars. They just didn't appeal to me back then... and then I took the first one apart and was simply blown away by the engineering... everything from the internal rotary magazine to the hammerless action to the round counter... and once I finally got my hands on a takedown... yeah... that feature... Way overengineered and way ahead of its time. My second one was purchased in 2020, a beautifully restored 1899A in 30-30. Still haven't fired that one. Moving along, after reading Koller's book, I noticed he took a shining to the 250 Savage.... so I had to have one. The prices at the auction houses for ones in nice shape weren't totally unreasonable, but more than I was willing to spend, so I waited. I was at a local gunsmith that I found by accident having a stock repaired when we got to talking shop. He told me he had a Savage for sale but didn't remember much more about it. We went down to his basement to his "rifle room", and he located and brought it to me for inspection. The first thing I looked at was the chambering... HAH !!! 250-3000 !!! Happy days !!! I didn't know it at the time, but it was a 99R dated to 1935, same year my mom was born, allegedly a rarer 99R because of the chambering. It was in very nice condition, but it was drilled and tapped. He scratched his head, and then finally remembered he had the original Redfield mount for it somewhere, 150 pieces of brass, a few boxes of bullets, and 11 loaded rounds. I won't post what I paid, but let's just say I got the whole package for less than half of what this would sell for anywhere, and I sold off 50 pieces of brass to make the purchase even more enjoyable ! I purchased Leupold bases and an older Leupold Vari-X III, one of my favorite scopes, and loaded 100 rounds in different weight bullets; 75gr, 87gr, and 100gr. Off to the range I went. Even with the 1:14 twist, she stabilized the 100gr just fine and they were moving at an average of 2890FPS. The 75s were moving at 3070FPS, and the 87s, which I intended to hunt with, 3045FPS. Once I got her dialed in, I was putting 5 inside a quarter at 100 yards with all loads. I was blown away with how accurate that rifle is... 2022 rifle season opened in NY. I usually sight in 5 or 6 different rifles and take them out on rotation so they can get some fresh air. First one out was this Savage. At first light, a huge doe comes from behind my stand to my right. I let her walk out in front of me to about 30 yards where she stopped to browse giving me a perfect broadside shot. The savage barked, she didn't jump or flinch, she looked me dead in the eyes, turned her head, and walked about 25 more feet farther out behind some brush where I lost sight of her. My very first thought was I missed her, but I would never understand how that was even possible. I was about to get down from the stand to go looking, but as I turned to my right in the stand, there was another doe, about 30 yards behind me. She wasn't as big as the first one, but there is no way she didn't see me, so she started playing hide and seek behind some brush with me. I froze and slowly got the Savage in position. Eventually, she came out and gave me what I needed. I squeezed the trigger, heard the bang, and watched this doe do a back flip landing on her back. She kicked 3 times and simply stopped moving in that position. Now curiosity got the better of me. I got down from my stand and walked to where I shot the first one. Oddly enough, there was zero blood trail... so I walked up to the brush where I last saw her, and there she was. I flipped her over, and first observation was small hole in and out, and only a tiny ring of blood on the exit side. I walked back over to the second one, and sure enough, exactly the same scenario. I got my gutting kit out of my back pack and started with the first one... and it did not take long to figure out what happened. As soon as I got her open, blood and jelly came pouring out of her chest cavity. The heart and lungs were both literally pulp. Same on the other one.... When processing, I found the backs of both front shoulders were bruised and a 4" diameter bruise on the inside of the ribcage on the exit side. That explained everything. The hydrostatic shock did the heavy work. This little quarter bore doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves among hunters with their super ultra magnums... because now you don't have to work as hard, but I absolutely love hunting with the older lever guns and the even older cartridges. I took a doe last season with the 22 Savage Hi Power with very similar results. I've since acquired over a dozen of the Savages and have many more to go... This year, the 32-40 and 303 Savage are getting workouts. Thank you again for shedding light on a cartridge that I hope comes back to life. There was nothing wrong with it.

For those who care, you can easily convert 243 brass into 250 savage. Trimming is required which is no big deal. Rumor on the internet claims that 6.5 creedmoor brass into a 250 savage sizing die creates a damn near perfect case, I have yet to try it

Really liked the story Ed…give you writer a raise!!

You’re story really hits home with me, my dad handed me his model 99 250 / 3000 savage when I turned 12 I’m 69 now and have been reloading this round 30 plus years now, this old treasure really draws a crowd of old timers every fall at the range for deer sightin . The upper neck shot is my signature shot and this 250 delivers it well. 😉

I'm a big 250 savage fan, a savage model 14 FC is my main woodchuck rifle with H380 and a nosler ballistic tip. Also a model 1899 savage goes to the deer woods each season.

Just discovered your channel and with you100% about the classics.

Inherited my dad’s 99 in 308 the savage 99 is my favorite lever action ever and they were way before their time.

Great story Ed!

I have 3-250 Savage’s , Ruger Ultralight, a 11:58 custom REM 700 with a Rock Creek mountain rifle contour barrel and a Defiance Rebel action,Rock Creek mountain rifle contour. All 3 are wearing McMillan Hunters Edge stocks. I load the Sierra 117gr with H4350. It’s not hard to get 2700-2800 fps.

I have a hand built Remington 600 Mohawk chambered in 250 Savage with a 20" medium weight 1 in 10" barrel. I've worked up two loads for it. The first is a Sierra 87 gn that runs about 3050 fps. The second is an 80 gn Barnes TTSX load that books in around 3220 fps. Both are ½ MOA and kill everything they are pointed at including black bear. I have never thought "I wish I had..."

Great video! My 1952 Savage 99EG 250-3000 will keep three shots under 1” at 100 yards using the Remington factory 100 grain loads. I don’t own a chronograph, but I have published reloading data that shows the 250 can push the 100 grain bullet to 3000 fps using RL15 tested in a model 99. Plenty good for point blank hold out to 250 yards. I also have two other 99’s. 1955 99F in 300 Savage and 1972 99F in 308 Winchester. All a joy to shoot. Whichever I have in my hand at the time is my favorite. I missed out on a Ruger 77 in 250 Savage a few years ago. Dang! Now I’m in the process of having an already nicely sporterized 1913 Kar 98 Mauser action that I got dirt cheap re-barreled in 257 Roberts. You should do a video on that cartridge. I hand load for everything. I’m coming up on 71 years old now and can’t hunt much because of health problems. I’ve been hand loading over fifty years. A lot of your younger viewers may not know that the 250-3000 is the parent cartridge of the 22-250 and the 300 Savage is the parent cartridge of the 308 Winchester. Savage made two bolt action rifles chambered in 250-3000 and 300 Savage. The model 1920 was introduced in 1920 and the Super Sporter in 1928. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊

I enjoy history lessons on older calibers.

Hay Ed your 03 is sweet I’m a sucker for mannlicher stocked fifles

Very good video ... I've owned a Ruger RSI since the early 80s .... excellent firearm , im shooting 117 gr. sierra spitzer boat tail on top of 33 grains of IMR 4320 .. don't know the velocity but i don't shoot much past 200 yds anyway .. it prints about an inch with groups and that's with a carbine 18 inch barrel ...

Great video and history lesson on the 250-3000..., can't agree more with what you said about all the new calibers they have come up with in the past 10 or so years....6.5 , 300 blackout, and a few i missed great calibers but no need for them because the old calibers are plenty succifent....30-30, 308, 30-06, 243, 7mm, 303, what more do you need, oh, 257 Robert a forgotten cailber that is great for big game...

Hello, just found your channel and subscribed. I have a Remington 700 classic in 250 Savage. It is my go-to rifle, it shoots 75,90,100 and 117 grain bullets all within one inch at 100 yards. I killed my biggest buck here in SW Virginia, a fine 9pt with a 90 grain hollow point. It was running and at the shot (about 70 yards away) it fell at about 15 yards. Mine likes IMR 3031 powder. Looking forward to more videos.

We needed the 6.5 Creed like a hog needs white shoes. The Creed cartridges are just pure greed driven. 6.5x55 Swede, ,260 Remington, .257 Roberts, Savage 250, the list goes on and on. What about the .25-06 Remington? The 6.5 Creed had no real advantage over other 6.5 cartridges.

Vintage savage rifles were amazing today they make good rifles they just are plane and boring they were so innovative and awesome back in my grandfathers day

When my son was born I commissioned a gunsmith to build him a small ring 98 mauser with a Douglas 24" barrel in 250 Savage Ackley, it came out as an artwork of accuracy with 100 gr bullets unfortunately my boy had a brain tumor and recovered from his surgery as left handed and has never gotten to hunt with it but ol dad does... the only limiting factor keeping it from superseding the Creedmoor in every way is the 10 twist barrel, but deer inside of 500 yards can't tell a difference between a 115 gr and 140 grain bullet i promise

The 250 Savage is more in the class of 6mms, like the 243 than 6.5s like the Creed Moore. I believe the 250 Savage is superior as a hunting cartridge than the 6mms at normal hunting ranges. 6mms are a little better at ranges past 300yds because of higher ballistic coefficients of 6mm bullets. The 250 Savage is a more efficient cartridge with greater barrel life and a little more accurate with the same quality hunting bullets of the 6mms. As a varmit/deer cartridge, the 250 Savage is about as good as you can get. For more range and power , a modern loaded 257 Robert is out standing . I would classify it as a deer/varmint cartridge. More suited for deer than varmints. Just my opinion and sticking to it.

Still a great deer round

The gun sales and hunting industry in general has been bitten by the consumer spending bug. Marketing and promotions have convinced many hunters that until you spend $750 on camouflaged clothing, hundreds of dollars on trail cams, thousands on stands and equipment, $15,000 or more on an ATV, and a kings ransom on the newest and greatest metric designation caliber topped by a 4-25 power BDC scope there's no way that a deer will ever stop long enough to allow the best BC bullet enter its kill zone. In reality most hunter need to spend more time at the range practicing good marksmanship and exercising their bodies. Most whitetail deer and many mule deer are taken at ranges under 150 yds so any good rifle with a decent bullet will harvest any deer walking in North America.

I have two Savage 99’s, a300 Savage and a 303. Love them both. Looking for a 250-3000 . Wonderful guns

You make that the 250-3000 Ackley Imp. and your closer still and a very fine cartridge indeed!!! Less taper, more case capacity, and easier feeding, and you can shoot standard 250 cases in it with little reduction in power to form new cases!!! What's not to like???

My grandfather had an old Savage 99 in 250-3000, I actually loved that old rifle. It was a sweet deer gun. Too bad my uncle.got it when grand dad died. Not sure where it went when my uncle died. But, he had the same wcope you put on your manlicher stocked bolt action. Thanks for bringing up the memories. These days, I've been exploring PCP air rifles for deer hunting. With an Air Force Texan LSS45. I have no qualms about taking up to a 150 yard shot with it, it's relatively quiet, and will put a 350 grn pill thru the Texas deer quite effeciently.

The trouble is there are so many good vintage cartridges.. And being a Wild cater that makes it even worse for me.. To me a two fifty seven roberts in a savage ninety nine action awesome.😊

*The problem with the .250 Savage is and always has been the .243 Winchester. Not to mention the 257 Roberts and the venerable 25-06. There's just no good reason to bother with the Savage.*

I build and sell AR 10 uppers and right now am adding the 250 Savage to my AR 10s for sale. I am gathering parts now and waiting on Pac Nor to get my barrel to me for the AR 10 that will be chambered in 250 Savage

I built an 1895 mauser in 250 savage 26 inch shelen barrel nice boyds stock drilled and taped for scope hand load imr 3031 100 gr nosler BT timney trigger half Moa all day I wouldn't trade it for 3 plastic creedmoors

It probably feeds better than the 6.5 Creedmoor in bolt actions due to the tapering. Think about the AK round.

That's right! .260 Remington is where it's at! 100 feet faster then the Creedmoor.

i have 250 savage custom very similar to one have

My dad just passed away at 89. He was a historian and a veteran of the Green Beret one of the things that we had in common was the love for vintage rifles and he collected three of the model 99 they were chambered in 300. 250-3000. And 22 high-power. The inheritance was divided three ways my choice and pick and I picked all of the model 99’s. I’m not sure but I believe I will have to re-blue two of them for the 22 high-power is 99% do you have a video on rebluing? Thank you. Murray

There’s nothing new under the sun….there’s your scripture lesson for the day😊! All these ‘new’ cartridges are the reinvention of the wheel. It’s called marketing 101. Put the same product in a new box, add some tail fins, new perfume to the detergent and advertise it as ‘new and improved’! That’s the 6.5 creedless. That’s the 360 hum hammer and all the rest of these reincarnations of already existing cartridges…a case in point being the 250 savage….and the 6.5x55…the 351 Winchester…the 38-55/375 Winchester. The gun companies cook up a new form of an old round to boost sales. This rub that it’s about those states that require straight wall cases is BS. What happened to the 357 maximum? The 44 auto mag…if you want a rimless case? All these new cartridges duplicate older ones….its easier to push a new version than resurrect an old one. It’s all marketing.

i have one these guns from an uncle who died it’s almost impossible to find ammo for & when i do it’s high in price.

Have a ruger m77 red butt in 250 savage

I would say most people aren’t capable of making over a 3-400 yard shot. Everyone is turning into long range hunters. It’s not as ethical and I’ve seen a lot of wounded game that require more than one shot or found dead deer that people weren’t able to recover. I’m in South Dakota it’s a state that makes long range shots easy to take but not easy to succeed. I use a 7mm rem mag or 300 wby. And I refuse to shot game over 600 yards and try not to shot over 400. The problem I see today is people are getting lazy and don’t put effort into stalking and getting closer to their game. Yesterday my dad seen a group of guys shot a deer 7 times before they downed it.

Get a 22-250 and re-barrel to 250 savage.?

Do they even make 250 savage brass any longer it was hard for me to find brass 12-15 years ago just wondering if they restarted making it again.

I bought a savage 99 probably 10 years ago in win 30- 30, it was a made up gun from several other guns, but I got it for 250.00, , made in 1912 I believe, now here's the thing, because I reload and cast my own bullets, I dropped the velocity down to 2000 fps, and I'm able to load 20 rounds for about 2.50 a box, and I've probably have 400 rounds in a coffee can , is that enough to kill a deer, I'm thanking, it probably is, at least if I do my part, and hit where I aim ,people, will look at this round as being weak and probably inefficient, but people hunted for a very long time with black powder firearms, both muzzleloading and cartridge guns and killed a lot lf game, my point, is your point, new isn't always better

Marketers and millennials are why all the new unnecessary garbage. I hate all this new crap that only makes the loads I love supposedly obsolete.

Don't like the music. It doesn't go with the content.

The 250 Savage and 6.5 Creedmoor are so close I use 6.5Creemoor to resized and make 250 Savage brass with just a touch up on the case cutter to square up the Creedmoor case to 250 Savage length. Putting this out there I build and sell AR 10 uppers in 250 Savage so want one give me a note to get back to you. Sold with the 250 Savage AR 10 upper is a box of 20 deer loads for the buyer to get started with. Barrels used are Pac Nor SS super match 1-10 polygonal rifling. (you cannot shoot lead bullets in a Polygonal rifling barrel)