So glad that an Ewok glider made it to the Battle of Exegol in Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga

The Battle of Exegol is a monument to the Star Wars sequels; it has a cool concept and it looks great, but really its just a hodgepodge of reused assets/ideas executed worse than they were before.

The Sith Eternal Star Destroyers were pretty useless as well

The GR75 is literally the spaceship version of the Gonk droid

I was honestly expecting a lot of Clone Wars era ships.

My problem with that Battle is that a scraped-together fleet like that, operating so close, with no standardization and little preparation would probably spend more time crashing into and shooting each other than doing anything effective, and would be prone to disorganization and panic.

Honestly, the battle of Exegol annoyed me. It looked like it was basically Disney saying "Look at how we can defeat the bad guys through the power of friendship!" I get what they're trying to go for, but you can at least try to have it make sense. I remember when I went to see TROS with a friend in the theater we both said the entire final battle felt like a rip-off of the final battle of Avengers: Endgame, which came out earlier in the same year. Like, even some of the lines were similar. "I am Iron Man/I am all the Jedi."

How did all those thousands of ships all hyper jump into place so closely and not one of them had crashed or ran into another?

The number of ships is overkill. No pun intended. Talk about traffic jam,one shot could ricochet and destroy all the ships.

Normally, I'd be in a huff and nit-picking the effects team for copy-pasting a bunch of unarmed or pointless things just to pad a scene. Knowing the kind of nightmare deadlines ILM was put under though, I have to shift the blame. They did wonders, considering the unfair workload. I like to think the fleets pilots were in a similar rush, jumping to some coordinates that got barked at them, without really having time to plan what they were doing once they got there. Riding entirely on the energy that its better to go out and explode than sit at home waiting to explode.

Having all of those empty freighters nearby would come in really handy when you have damage starfighter’s scrambling for a place to land or handy for Carrying fighters into battle

Battle of Exegol reminds me of Battle over Coruscant, I want more of the space Battle rather than whatever is happening to some hippy monks with laser swords.

Leia: "We need your help!" Galaxy Fleet: "We sleep." Lando: "I need your help." Galaxy Fleet: "We got ya bro!"

*_Emotional damage_*

I really enjoyed this, I think half the fun is trying to figure out How these ships and others could be used even if not very effectively. Like the freighter carrying a ton of fighters for example, its a really ingenious way to make use of its features; very large open bay, massive doors, sturdy construction to handle long-term usage, that sort of thing.

Good lord. Using a battle bird at this battle would be like taking a pre dreadnought class cruiser into a fleet engagement against modern next generation ships.

considering who was directing, no wonder the copy paste fleets and ships were a thing in the sequels. JJ is at least consistent in his deconstruction of franchises. (if you've suffered through the new star trek stuff, you know what I mean)

Well we dont see any of the ships doing anything at all, instead we got rey and ben fighting palps...

As an Armada player, I have customised GR75s I added hangar bays and bomber command to, carrying a wing of bombers, which I deploy from my MC75 as part of one variant of the "Raddus Dolls" strategy of deploying ever smaller ships from each other. Any transport vessel is a carrier if you are brave enough :D

I think it's pretty dumb to bring useless ships that might end up hampering the ability to maneuver for useful ships... Also, wasn't "fuel" an issue? Shouldn't that be allocated to the ships that make the most use of it? Or is there enough now?

Quadjumpers might actually have had weapons. The Lego set features cannons similar to those on the Razor Crest, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they had similar armament in canon.

The other uses for Balleen freighters could be 1) troop transports- could fit a lot of grunts in them (would make for good boarding actions- or frankly, the call for the fleet might include calls for infantry as well...) or 2) munitions transports- wouldn't be the craziest idea to have dedicated munitions ships hauling racks of proton torpedoes or vats of tibanna gas to supply the DPS ships. Which, admittedly, is similar to the GR-75s roles in my headcanon.

So I guess Echart never played Xwing vs Tie Fighter on the PC because the rebel transports, the GR-75s did have guns. at least one. some were fitted with ion cannons, many fitted with a single turbo laser.

Man, I wanna meet the GR75 captain that has, like, 12 Xyston kills painted on their transport

I love how they thought that a simple asset dump of recognizable ships would be a cool idea.

Really missed the chance for ILM to make model to make obscure ships like the Dauntless Heavy Cruisers, Assault Frigates and Dreadnought Support Craft Instead we got things like Hynestian Star Cruisers. ( THICC Nebulon B my beloved) Dont get me wrong, I love some of the designs I really like. But why not take some things from legends

Wait... I just noticed a weird point... why are the emp'ed ships spinning while falling? I have played KSP enough to know how something with momentum falls, the X-wing spinning makes sense but massive starships? Why?

This battle was supposed to be the most climactic space battle in star wars and it was 3 minutes long, plus they couldn’t even be bothered to make a new star destroyer they just made the old one with a big gun. Hopefully they make an extended cut of all the sequels that explains about palpatines revival, expands this battle, fixes the choreography of some of the fights and extends this scene. This will probably never happen, it’s just wishful thinking.

I see the Eravana complaint and I agree with the possible usage, but also consider this. Anyone familiar with Elite:Dangerous could probably see the similarities to the Type-X line of ships. They're generally bulky haulers serving the same role as a freighter in Star Wars. However they can not only be outfitted with weapons, albeit at a disadvantage against similarly sized specialty or multi-role ships, but there are also combat variants of them. The Type-6 Transporter is an early game medium hauler which doesn't fare well in combat (probably more akin to the Quad Jumper here), but it has a version called the Keelback which incorporates more hull strength, additional thrusters, a ship-launched fighter bay (by far the cheapest/smallest ship you can get one on, and SLFs are a huge dps dealer), and possibly a few other different more useful internal compartments or slightly different weapon placement. It's been a few years so I'm a little foggy on the details. I remember that the lore reason for the Keelback was to have a more armed/armored version of the Transporter since there is a whole piracy thing and they wanted something that looked like the civilian version that could fight back. The Type-7 is probably closest to the GR-75 here. It's essentially a medium transporter in terms of specs but has a large ship frame. It's got great durability & cargo space but is absolutely not suited for combat. Hauling & Mining is another story though, thing is great for mid game if that's the route you're going. No combat variant here. The main one relevant to this is the Type-9 Heavy (the analog to the Eravana here). It's one of the largest ships you can get and feels like a cement mixer when flying it. But it's insanely tanky, has an insane amount of storage space to haul goods, and can be outfitted as a turret fortress and also can have SLFs. It's variant, the Type-10 Defender, was introduced during a story arc that required a lot of militarization. It's faster in every regard, has better/more weapons placements (I think this gets it the highest potential dps depending on loadout), highest hull armor of all the ships and really high shields, and keeps the SLF. It's literally a flying fortress, but other stuff can still fly circles around it. But you can literally just sit there and let your auto-turrets & SLFs do the dirty work and not worry.

Do you have a video going over some of the less known ships in the “galaxy fleet”? I saw something that looked like a mix of a nebulon b and an assault frigate that caught my eye

I remember my father saying that during World War II everything was used as long as it could, even tractors were taken to the front (as the situation in Ukraine shows, they can be quite effective), my grandfather himself was in Ulany and he fought the Germans on horseback. And dont forget how situation look on Axos side when they start loosing war.

Still would have been kickass if we just saw a hoard of clone wars era capital ships kicking ass

Cargoships can actually have a lot of usefull uses in a spacebattle. They could: -Carry cargo, ammo, fuel and resuply (obviously). -Carry fighters, tugs, rammers and small ships. -Carry mines, homing missiles and battle droids. -Carry space marines and naval infantry. -Be a command, Control and Intelligence ship. -Act as hospital ships. So they are not useless even if you cant strap a single gun on them. Johan.

I'd suggest that a possible canon reason for a lot of the less useful ships at the battle was simply that when the call went out, when Lando told the Galaxy what was at stake, pilots and ship owners of all walks felt an obligation to contribute. That meant even those whose ships weren't very maneuverable or fast or well-armed decided that they simply couldn't sit out out and had to go and do whatever they could to help defeat Palpatine and the Empire. Even if it meant sacrificing themselves, providing cover for other ships, kamikaze runs, etc.

Though I don’t much care for the battle with how lazily it was done, was there any CIS ships even present during the battle? Or even some former Imperial ships repurposed?

well i mean the cargo ships could be used to launch containers and rocks at the fleet either to scater fire or damage surface hard points

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Bruh that one scene were all the ships get blasted by palps you see at least 3 mc75s and it looks ridiculous. I adore seeing the mc75 but this looks to funny 😆

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Not every ship can be great, and it's fun to see the bad ones that ended up in places they shouldn't have been.

Eck you clearly misunderstand the power of emotional support. FR though that scene could've been so cool but it's not even a battle, a bunch of ships just show up and then it jumps to Rey and Ben

I generally don't defend TROS in anyway, but I can see several of these ''useless'' ships actually serving a purpose. As this is potentially ''the end'' of the galaxy, several of these ships could be there simply to add numbers for the resistance. More ships equals more targets, and while the the empire(I actually can't even remember what name they went by in this movie lol) would try to focus the bigger threats, it would be really hard to prioritize just on firepower with that many targets. Several of these ships could also probably serve as rescue vessels as well, picking up survivors from damaged ships etc.

I feel like there wasn't much thought into what ships would be there. Rather they just needed a variety of filler to cover the screen. The biggest problem I have with the sequel trilogy, like most movies these days, is that you aren't supposed to think about it. You're supposed to just process the visuals and move on and forget about everything the second the movie ends lmao

Perhaps the freighters and transports were transporting ground forces or other ground equipment, just like the GR70 at the battle of Endor?

5:34 "Again the Rebels have brought a load of unarmed GR-75 Transports to a giant battle." "WHY, what do they do? Is it in case the Rebels get hungry and need a snack and that's where they all are?"

I'd honestly have preferred more visible emphasis on common ships and less recycled capital ships. To truly emphasize that the galaxy as a whole has realized they must take a stand, and with one voice say, "No more." The common people, the smugglers, the planetary militias, and yes, a few capital ships that had scattered to fight another day. Oh sure they'd suffer hideous casualties, especially the first handfuls to arrive, but as the trickle became a flood, the Final Order (Blech!, just so try hard) would find that their efforts to grip the galaxy with ultimate force had backfired. Considering the lack of shields on Exegol, ships would be able to punch well above their weight, and most of them wouldn't have lasted much longer with shields anyway. A fighter from a planetary militia or bounty hunter could go straight to killing cannons and bridge crews. That heavy freighter may have been beyond Han's means to modify, but I could see that space being used to house some salacious systems. It would be difficult and you'd need either prolific salvage of battlefield or enormous investments in the black market. The pocket carrier would be easier and more obvious, but you said that one, so I had to consider cut down warship cannons and a bunch of power supplies. Or packing the cargo pods with mines, missiles, or torpedoes. Also, throwing cargo if you're genuinely so lacking in means after getting this clunker, yet still determined to do the right thing. I disagree that many fighters wouldn't have hyperdrives. This is the New Republic era after all. I could easily see pirates, militias, bounty hunters, concerned citizens, criminal groups, and actual New Republic forces having hyperdrive equipped fighters. The tugs could drag debris around to inflict more damage, they could pull the stupid star destroyers out of position, and they could help friendlies maneuver, especially if friendlies were damaged. I'd assume some of the GR75 weapons were stock for self defense purposed, and they just modded them with what they had to best fit what they needed. Yes, they'd get hammered, but I could see them showing up out of dedication and at least drawing fire for a few precious seconds. Museum owner/collector wanted to make history instead of study and store it. Also, a lack of shields would be less detrimental here. Unless it was modded for urban combat or turned into a one salvo missile/torpedo boat, the most I can see the bus doing is landing marines by virtue of being ignored for more important targets. Which could actually be useful. Or maybe use it to release chaff.

I think that everyone who took these ships to that battle, were thinking that there will be a ground or boarding battles

Those ships wouldn't be front line fighters, but rather support ships to serve medical roles, personnel carriers and other cargo/supply roles. Definitely not useless.

Honestly if you put it in context of stakes and who's involved, there's very much a Ukrainian tractor vibe to the inclusion of some of the ships.

I’m very sure I saw an republic medical transport ship fly over the camera before landing at the resistance base in the movie at 2:02

Minelaying, EVA rescue, medical ships, or just target saturation. Of course given the Holdo ram NO ship is useless in combat any more.

No not negative. It was a good smirk noticing how many ships there must of just been cannon fodder. Gotta hand it to Lando for laying on that charm!

Little offended you didn't include the Resistance Bombers in that category. Those thing were complete shit in the Last Jedi!

One purpose of having excess ships, even unarmed ones, is simply to add extra targets and soak up some fire. If there are 20 targets coming at you but only 3 are dangerous to you, you have find and focus on those 3 and hope none of the others have any surprises in store. If one important ship is in danger and needs cover, another ship (something large and tanky, but lightly manned) can physically shield them to give them time recover. In Halo, the UNSC did this with a medical station in the first space battle they actually won against the Covenant. 'Course I would imagine the Galaxy fleet very disorganized for the most part. But it still would have been a lot for the Sith fleet.

This is total headcanon, but I like to think that the Galaxy Fleet was callsigned "Skywalker Force." It's like a triple pun, and would make sense in universe.

Honestly the galaxy fleet felt like that enourmous group of Pokémon, in pokémon 2 or also called 2000. Most didn't have a thing to do there, but they wanted to be there..

I feel a lot of those ships in that fleet where useless

How the hell were there no Starhawks? You know, the ones that can one-shot a Star Destroyer? It's not like they're non-cannon, unlike the Executor SSD the NR had captured in the EU.

well technology does progress in star wars like Anakin's prosthetic looking like a robot while Luke's prosthetic actually looks like a person

Bringing the Battle bird to Exogol is like bringing an ancient Greek longboat to a modern naval battle

From the moment Palpatine launches a lightning Kamehameha capable of disabling half of the two galactic fleets, any ship becomes useless... Unlimited Power. He had already delivered the spoiler!

In the X-Wing minis game, the quadjumper has some weapons. I know it’s not canon but I picture it as having some sort of weaponry

I have a guilty pleasure for this battle, not because it's any good, god no, but because it's literally a kid smashing all their action figures together and making boom noises

Regarding 1st ship you have huge frontal bay on these freighters. Stick it full of missile or torpedo tubes and some basic FCS and you have a passable Q ship.

One use for the quadjumper might be to attach tow cables onto star destroyers and pull them into each other.

which reborn Emperor had the better fleet and grand plan? Dark Empire Palpatine(s) or Rise of Skywalker Sheev?

@EckhartsLadder I searched your vids for a history of the X-wing and only found ''this or that' videos or 'should this starfighter be used but not this one" "Which is better". Great stuff btw. I am really looking for something more definitive on the X-wing more specifically AA-589. Was this Luke's only X-wing? Has AA-589 ever made an Olympic Gold level swan dive into a planet? Or anything....?

The freighter class mentioned first may not have the firepower, but they do have the mass.

In my headcanon I explain all of this by pretending the sequels didn't happen and were just a fever dream had by the emperor as he fell down the death star 2 shaft.

Ok, now we need the 5 MOST usefull ships at the battle of Exegol!

id love to see a reverse of this, where you list your favourite ships/star fighters at Exegol

For a battle against an immediate enemy I’m surprised there was no ship that did the holdo maneuver especially when against the might of oversized ISD with probably overwhelming firepower.

No ship is useless if you ram the enemy hard enough....

One thing that annoyed me is that the Xyston Star Destroyers are essentially bigger Imperials with presumably more weapons and thicker armor. And we know that shields dont work do to Exegol's atmosphere. Which means the galaxy fleet wouldn't have shields either. The galaxy fleet should have suffered horrific losses when charging the Final Order fleet. They would eventually win, but it would have been with great sacrifice.

You have a useless mass freighter with tons of shipping containers in pull, you have a load of tiny, nimble tugs with four giant engines on them, so using the containers as ammunition against the static targets would have been an option - similar to what Iron Squadron did over Mykapo.

The Battle of Exegol is the biggest asset flip in Galactic History!

The worst ship at the battle….. Was the one with the two giant cartoon mouse ears. Still, if they ever do a remaster of this scene, do you think my ship could make it in from No Man’s Sky?

The whole sequel trilogy was useless! Wasn’t good in any way other than Kylo was cool but kind of Anikan 2.0 and BB8 and that’s it

I think those freighters definitely served as fighter carriers since they had no defence weapons but had plenty of space for fighter ships

Hmmm let's take a look then.

Lego made a better starwars movie than Disney

The Gonk Droid mobile A ship that can only be piloted by Gonk Droids!

The fact that they added all these old ships from lore and even going as far as adding the star tours vehicle is pretty cool to me

Amazing how none of the ships collided into each other, especially with how congested the air space was and ships were constantly coming out of hyperspace

All these ships served a very important purpose: when they're being shot at, that means one less useful ship is being shot at

Turns out that the Star Speeder wasn't supposed to be in the movie but it just flew in to the shot to get footage for the tour

To be honest, you could probably combine the first two to make effective ship-sized battering rams, assuming they have any level of plot armour to not die before they get close.

Excellent video bud

I think, that maybe, many cargo ships in this battle were used as that; cargo ships,carrying ammunition, fuel and other usefull stuff

The bigger Republic age ship seen in the sky above the Resistance base at 2:00 (it's basically an upgraded medical frigate) specifically, it is the same exact model first seen in the Rebels series, it was utilized by Commander Sato of the small rebel cell known as Phoenix squadron.

An interesting thing I noticed on Wookieepedia states this about the Baleen-Class Heavy Freighter: "Baleen-class freighters were about 400 meters long and were quite clumsy, but were capable of moving large amounts of cargo across the galaxy every day, and consequently, were essential to commerce. Their forward compartment could be opened in transit and used to salvage items found drifting in space, even entire starships. Built in orbital shipyards, ships of the class were designed to never enter a planet's atmosphere, instead they were docked at space stations and transfer yards to load and unload cargo." So, I wonder how the resistance would have modified them in such a hurry to enter the atmosphere. However, I do think it makes sense that they would act as carriers of sorts for this battle, carrying ships just like you mentioned.

I would love to see a good fan film about the people of the galaxy's reaction to the destruction of Kijimi and how they assemble the exogol fleet

An alternate title for this would be "5 Bravest ships at the battle of Exegol"

The most usless Ship emmm The Ray Kylo one didn't save him did it lol. Respect and keep up the epic work.

The baleen class heavy freighters seen in the battle of Exegol could have been carrying fighters lacking hyperdrives, as the big hangar/cargo bay design could have been holding many smaller ships.

Your point for the freighter makes sense, but I thought it was kinda like a hammerhead corvette situation. Where they would be crashing into the destroyers

I was falling a sleeping and nodding off in the theater.. and I love Star Wars.. and with all the scene changes.. I thought I missed more of the movie than I did.

love how the xiston is just an imp-1 with a mandator gun on the bottom.

I love the part where a the end of tthe video the dog part is just 😂😂😂

I’d love to see a Lower Decks-esque comedy short about those poor Starbus drivers who had to strap blasters onto their vehicles before flying into a complete mess of a battle with zero intel.