Better idea for Phelddagrif: all of its abilities count as crimes.

The trouble in pairs😂

I've been threatening to build Slicer at some point because I love the idea of handing someone a cruise missile and just saying "Enjoy!"

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Archfiend of the Dross is a huge gamble in Jon Irenicus. Once the player you give it to dies it will come back to your deck without any oil counters which means you need to get rid of it before your upkeep or you lose as well! I have built several versions of Jon and it is my favorite deck still

On of the funniest ideas i ever See was Hans Eriksson running into walls.

Phage is one of my fav decks. Buily her over 10 years ago and still playing her!

I recently cut Archfiend of the Dross from my Jon Irenicus deck. After it kills an opponent you get it back because you didn't summon it on their side and only the control changing effect gets removed. So if it didn't kill the last opponent it's gonna kill you next, unless you can get rid of it before your turn.

My idea for a Santa Claus deck: Zedruu Bobbleheads using only snow lands. Give out bobbleheads to one player, use control magic on the other players, hope the player you're giving gifts to wins with the bobbleheads.

It’s always a good day when we talk about Karona. She’s my signature deck and by far my favorite. Nothing but fun when I play her.

I have a Phage deck. You basically had to have all the planets align to KO 1 person in any normal game. The deck has Candelabra of Tawnos, cabal coffers, and every tutor. Its still uttery terrible because its such a clear and direct threat from a fragile and slow deck.

I love building Jank. This is the video for me. I was planning on building Obeka and Phage already, and this inspires me more

You forgot to mention the best wincon with Pheldegrif, Suture Priest!

Loved the video. Grenzo always struck me as a whacky commander

I have a Karona deck! I play her as a "built your own tribal," making tokens of various types of whatever I draw, with a bit of subtheme on Saprolings. Think like Snake Basket, Fungal Sprouting and Sprout Swarm and Rith, etc. I don't voltron her because I don't want her to be a removal target and don't want her coming back at me if people remove the goaded pieces. Then add in a bunch of Changelings so that I have blockers that get the buff if an opponent does decide to attack at me. It's a goofy deck but it wins some games because with enough tokens, Karona becomes an Overrun in the command zone.

Goes to Card Kingdom, clicks on one random bulk rare after another: "Out of stock" "Out of stock" "Out of stock" Goes to TCG Player looking for the same cards: "839 in stock"

another one is creatureless Fblthp where you want to tutor for Proteus Staff and use the bonkers interaction they have

I have a Zedruu deck and it’s soooo so fun (as the pilot😂). However, I was under the impression the upkeep trigger will not recognize tokens because a player cannot own a token.

The next Iteration of this NEEDS to include Mishra, artificer prodigy.

Jon Irenicus looks like a perfect fit for the karona deck since he lets you grow her, stops her from getting sacrificed, goads, and gives draw

My nonsense deck rarely casts commander, uses Ramos, and the deck is Will of the council/council's judgement. Threw some tempting offers and Assist cards in there for fun too

I’m currently building River Song (Draw of the bottom of your library. Seems pretty absurd to me considering how many cards put cards at the bottom of your library.😊

I used your link twice in the last week and neither reflected the 5% discount at CK. I emailed them letting them know. Its not a ton, but the $16.36 isn't anything to scoff at either. Figured I would let you guys and the comments section know. I'm sure I'm not the only one it happening too see keep an eye out!

Been meaning to build a norin deck forever now. I’ll take this as my sign to finally do it.

Love the alt art on Trouble in Pairs.

It is worth noting: even if you goad Karona, creatures of the controller's choice gain the bonus as long as Karona's swinging, no matter where it's actually swinging. So there is *nothing* preventing the goblin or merfolk or human tribal player from swinging Karona at someone else... then sending their entire army of steroids monsters at you. This deck absolutely *needs* Ghostly Prison, Propaganda, No Mercy, Revenge of Ravens, and every other card you can think of that would discourage attacking you, and every card that encourages swinging into your opponents instead (a few of the Curses come to mind).

I have a disgustingly fun idea for a Phelddagrif deck and now I have to build it

Guys I'm looking for a ridiculous commander. I already have Norin the Wary and want something with Green with it, preferably with 3 colors. Any ideas?

Flickering Nine Lives in Zedruu is hilarious. It's like Beamtown Phage, but way more repeatable.

There's a way to be evil with Jon Irenicus: all the old fishes with islandwalk and "if you control no island, sacrifice this creature". If you give it to an opponent who isn't playing blue, the game is a draw With Thieve's auction you need to be careful about which lands you get back, because when a player dies all cards they own get removed from the game

Just played against Obeka, she is hell to play against. Initiative synergies so well with her and it’s genuinely annoying. Got brought down to -5 life from 40 in one turn and couldnt block and because a 7/7 creature dealt three dmg each upkeep.

One of my favorite decks was and still is my moon-black deck using Inamo, Death’s Aspect and stuff like mortal combat and stuff to fill my graveyard with spirits then swing in for game with reanimating. Loved it, and still love it, but that deck is weird af.

I was thinking any of the ten Myojin, which are like Phage but even more awkward. I was trying to build Myojin of Towering Might as an overrun spam mono green deck with an effective 16/16 commander, only to later realize reading the card explains the card and myojin dont get their counter when you cast them from the command zone

Another thing you can do with Zedruu is auras. A lot of auras don't care who controls them; think like Pacifism, it just makes the creature not able to attack or block and doesn't matter who owns it. You can donate those to players and get Zedruu's full effect. Then you can avoid filling your deck full of bad cards that hurt you. The danger in doing that is that if Zedruu doesn't live or you just can't get her to stick, you're not fully crippled. I know someone with a Blimm deck and he never does anything the whole game; he doesn't want to cast 65% of the cards in his deck because they're all stuff like Demonic Pact and we just make sure Blimm never lives or gets to do combat damage because we don't want to lose to donated cards. It's really easy. So I recommend avoiding that path with Zedruu and try to make her more innocent, less of a lightning rod for removal.

Shoutout Rachel Weeks who has 2 of these decks lol

I will say what I said earlier. My way of playing Zedruu is “cards that naturally enter under my opponents control” matter. Playing bad cards can be incredibly risky especially if Zedruu gets blown up.

I need wacky inflatable flailing arms busts of the nerds, complete with habitat and Amber action figure…NEED.

Thanks for bringing back the canon that is Transformers bearing witness to Tocasia's death.

I'm a phelddagrif main, but I use them to give out life to power up seraphic greatsword

Love my zedruu deck, surprisingly good at disrupting the game and honestly can be quite scary if you start doing stuff like swapping a bad permanent for someone voltrony Commander or stuff like that

infinite 1/1 goblins is an absurd amount of value so Krenko Mob Boss is getting my pick for most absurd commander!

I built the donate Tribal deck, but in WUBRG with Codie, Vociferous Codex instead. Zedruu is in the 99 of course. But now I have access to ramp, more permanent removal and creature tutors, as well as the Lich cards and the best black tutors for consistency in finding my donate pieces and wincons. Even have that jank Witchbane Orb + Hive Mind + Undying Flames combo. I even assembled it an resolved it for maximum fun! Trust me, I do jank too. I only play interesting decks that aren't boring. This deck even has a surprisingly high win rate. Like, 4-1 if not higher? We also had an MtG Bingo too and I played this deck. One of the things to do in a game for a square was lose in the first 5 turns or sewer slide yourself? Anyways, I played in a group of 4 where 3 of us had early lose chances. I lost first of course. Slaughter Pact turn 2. Would've been 1 if the other guy played a creature turn 1. He only played his 1 drop turn 2 for some reason. It was fun

I'm trying to build a zedru secret commander deck. I wanna put all the "you lose," cards In a deck then hand them to people like a secret Santa but coal and not gifts lol

Angel’s Trumpet is more effective, but WAY more ballsy for Phelddagrif decks because of the lack of fog effects that it typically uses. Ramp, Recursion, fog, and token generation typically are all the slots available to the players involving this deck type. They use cards like Angel’s Trumpet, or something else, it can do this at the cost of a few fog spell slots.

Karona, False God is a strange commander indeed! Not really sure how one builds around it?!

12:37 Just a note: Endless Whispers plus Torper Orb doesn’t work. 😂

I have discovered Commander recently, and you reminded me of one thing. There's this talk about lifegain decks getting to hundreds or thousands of life, or more, and my question is: How effective is that, if you are always at 21 away from death at best? There is no way to gain "commander life"...

For Jon irenicus, do you get the permanents back when an opponent loses ?

Phelddagrif group hug? That's cool, but consider this: Phelddagrif Crimes

When I first saw Obeka, I thought of Braid of fire... Just need a card that allows mana to not empty I gurss

Zedru ... she might recycle "Nine Lives" with "Hanna, Ship's Navigator"!

phage used to be my favorite card in the game. i used to run her in my suicide deck The Wise Mothman is my favorite commander these days. i would say phage and mothman are tied for my top 1

i made a zedruu curses deck once it was great

Norin is really fun but have only a problem, there are not enough etb's

How can you give away nine lives it has hexproof and zedruu targets it? Maybe I’m missing something

Obeka is fricking sweet, she's one of my new favorites

Vedalkin plotter is just both a budget and based card that is the secret sauce in my budget Azami deck. Oh? A twelve-hundred dollar gaia's cradle? *lemme hold onto that fam~♡*

For obeka you could build it to where you have 20 artifacts play hellkite tyrant have obeka deal 1 damage and win the game out of nowhere

Yidris is so underrated

Norin reads like a meme, but he's a bloodthirsty killer.

My favorite thing to do with Norin is to play him in Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer. Norin’s basically unremovable anyway, so why not add two extra colors? It’s also the ONLY deck I’ve ever seen that can make any use of Stickers. Park Bleater is lowkey the best card in the whole deck.

No Mishra, Artificer Prodigy + Possibility Storm?

You ignored the scariest phelddagrif build: ties only.

I feel like its a crime to have a list like this without Alaundo, The Seer

Ah yes, Phage, my first love 🤣

Wow, Phage's design makes the thumbnail look like an unused cutscene screenshot from Ocarina of Time 😅

Im surprised Blim Comedic wasnt on this list😅

A friend of mine plays Zedru. He only donates lands and you cannot get rid of that shit. I hate his deck so fucking much

Referring to someone as a “Pheldagriff mage “is low key like saying… 😂

I have a phage deck with the secret lair art, she's so pretty

It says something about me that I have most of these decks…

Now the same Video just with unconventional Decks! :)

My Adrix&Nev build is specifically built to make use of creatures that care about the same name, for example timberpack wolf.

I see my waifu Phage and I click...its that simple

No Atogatog?

For Phage commander: Use [Lazav, Wearer of Faces](2 mana commander) as the commander, and Entomb phage into your yard.

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mia lowkey sadistic 😭

Mox field is kind of buns it does not in fact out perform redacted

I have Zedruu(my favorite deck), Phage, Pheldagriff, and Karona…I feel personally targeted by this video. I disagree with the Zedruu advice, it’s much better to play neutral permanents rather than mean ones. Draws much less attention and you can politic easier

I kinda want to build Karona and every time it changes ownership I would say “ewwww you got the vid” (Short for Covid 19 which is the Coronavirus, I know, it’s stupid) 😂

Obviously 1st

2:00 NOOOOOOO! WHY DOES EVERYONE BUILD ZEDRUU WRONG??? You use SYMMETRICAL effects.

Card Kingdom is overpriced 😁

You guys always catch me watching -redacted- content and every, single, time I leave -redacted- video and come right here. Excited for this video, thanks Nerds 🫡