You know I'm right. 😀

On of the bright sides of GSD that Shinn and Luna's voice actors ended up dating in real life and now are married

The whole fake Lacus plot to me never made a whole lot of sense. I mean by the end of Seed in the Plant's eyes Lacus is a war criminal that helped steal Military Secrets and Resources. All that being just brushed under the rug and everyone universally loves Lacus again is a tough pill to swallow. Meer Campbell should have just been a new up and coming idol used as a propaganda tool by the state.

Kira Yamato booted off Shin Asuka the same way Goku booted off Gohan in DBZ.

Gundam seed destiny had so much wasted potential. the Minerva was an endearing crew and alex was a good protagonist

Destiny or at least Kira in a few seconds STOP FIGHTING!!... So anyway, I started blasting.

Pandering is this show flaw, it wasn't doing great at the ratings so they completely 180 the story and brought back Kira as main protagonist.

Isn’t it funny how Seed fans resort to low-key racist insults like “dumb westerner who doesn’t get it”. Even though the main message of Seed is “racism is bad”. The irony is delicious.

Speaking as one of the most notorious critics of the Cosmic Era, there is so much in this video that you hit the nail on the head with, while at the same time there's also quite a bit that you unfortunately got wrong as well. But as a whole, I'd say this was a good review/rant of SEED Destiny, since you actually made me double-take on a few things here and there. There's a reason why I say that the Cosmic Era is more or less the Disney Star Wars of Gundam _(before it even existed at the time),_ because it suffers from almost the exact same problems as the Sequel Trilogy does. With all of the crap I've learned about the Cosmic Era over the last 20 years, along with everything I've seen come out of Mitsuo Fukuda's mouth in multiple interviews _(including the recent ones from 2021-2023),_ it really is no wonder why the Cosmic Era is such a mess and a hotbed of wasted potential. You can tell, because any Gundam SEED Entries that Mitsuo Fukuda and Chiaki Morosawa had *_absolutely nothing to do with whatsoever_* regarding their development, such as SEED Eclipse, SEED Stargazer, and the SEED Astray Series, are all *_considerably better_* in terms of quality than SEED & Destiny. Which is why I go on to say that Gear Fighter Dendo was the only legitimately good anime that Mitsuo Fukuda ever made in his life. That was his magnum opus, while the rest of his animes all range from being Mediocre to Outright Garbage. And if people think Fukuda's learned anything from his mistakes with making SEED & Destiny, well thankfully all you gotta do is watch Cross Ange for one or two episodes, and you will quickly realize that he hasn't changed one damn bit since those days. Again, though: VERY Good Review, my dude! I give it an 8.5/10!

I enjoyed some of the characters from SEED, but Destiny was hard no for me. Arbitrarily reviving Mou was.. fuck sake. Mou's death was heroic. To overturn it was moronic.

I know destiny didn't have the best story but that was cause the creator Chiaki Morosawa became to sick to work (RIP) so she gave it off to bandai and her husband if I'm not mistaken and this was around the time of the impulse vs freedom fight which alot say is where it stopped being good and before anyone comes at me about Shinn being garbage, remember this saying because it still true to this day for a lot of series. There are no bad characters, only bad story telling. I think chiaki had better plans for Shinn then what we got but because of sad reasons we'll never know and I'll die on that boat by myself if I have to that Shinn is a good character or would had if bandai didn't go the cheap route and focus on athrun and God mode kira again.

I hope Seed Freedom gives Shinn the SRW treatment, cause after everything they did to that man, and having a tactical rpg crossover game fixed the character you made is absolutely insane. And Daily Reminder Master Asia solos the Seed universe without a mobile suit.

The show should have focused on the crew of the Minerva. The first couple story arcs of the series were great but then it became the Kira Yamato and the Archangel show again. The characters were bland except for Shinn who actually showed having a personality. He should have been the main character and given an arc instead of being a dick to everyone. I could go on forever with my problems with this series but I'll say the best part is the music.

Seed failed to be the second coming of MSG and Destiny failed to be the second coming of Zeta. At least the japanese love it, not as much as the OG but they shure do.

Seed Destiny is the reason I don't hate G-Witch; That show was bad, but it was due to circumstances that once NDA's expire we'll figure out why it was a rushed mess, and if it was given a longer episode count and script editors it'd be an interesting take on Gundam. Seed Destiny doubles down on everything wrong with its previous installment. It was beyond saving from the word go.

Gundam Seed does not deserve a 2 decades late film when it deserves a complete reboot instead. And even then that should also take a backseat to Crossbone getting animated. Fukuda is a lazy director and he shouldn’t be left anywhere near Gundam ever again.

I think what gundam seed is good at is actually making emotional scene spectacular but once you try understanding the story is where it falls apart.

Crazy to think 20 years later we're getting a sequel movie to destiny.

we need a MG Saviour or at least a Full Mechanics 1/100

I couldn't even get through SEED and you're telling me there was a worst version

The first 10 episodes were my introduction to gundam...

I miss boofire.

Shin was done dirty... honestly the show should've been more so about him joining rebels that branched out of ORB and wanted to do something besides sitting back and Shin should've time skipped to his late 40's and have been hunting those involved with ORB's destruction that day for years with Freedom Gundam being the primary PTSD trigger that's his target... a Guts vs. Griffith sort of rivalry.

11:01 couldn't stop laughing 😂😂 Shin thought he was in G Gundam

I went from SEED to Destiney and I spent the first 5 episodes or so absolutely confused about who these new people were. I didn't really enjoy Destiney too much. I remember the first episode that I really liked was the Freedom v Impulse fight. I loved that Shinn had a game plan and used all of his accumulated experience with the different impulse forms to take Kira out (before plot armor). The most egregious sins in SEED/Destiney for me was all of the convenient plot armor parts.

32:23 Ah yes, here's some of that background controversy. There's apparently information out there that the VA was doing _something_ with the director, who's the husband of the scriptwriter, ir something like that.

As a newb Gundam fan, I curious to hear your top ten Gundam deaths. My personal favorite is Iok Sama. *Large Scissors sold separately*

erm...on the wingdam example...you may have picked a poor scene to make your point because yes, the jet turbine looking things are pointing down so if they were to start applying thrust through those it would push it down/forward (it's on it's back unless it bows out of respect it's not going strait down :P) but the 6-7 visible blue streeks coming from the on suit and on backpack thrusters are all pointing down and back which would launch it....up and forward. but granted since they spend a LOT of time stopped in the air shooting at things....i'm sure the lift provided by the backpack would be just above or at 0. and not sure if you've noticed, all gundams can fly...for a bit....if they need to go long distance they tend to get extra equipment (like a backpack or a little plane to ride) for extra fuel/lift/thrusters. and using the zeta / delta plus as a reason for backpacks not to exist....the zeta is a experimental mobile suit, the delta plus is it's mass production variant but i'm sure it's still more expensive/complicated to make a suit fully transform from MS > plane and back then it is to slap some wings and thrusters on it's back :P (yes occasionally cost factors in to the gundam universe....atleast in UC otherwise why have 1 zeta why not field a legion of zeta's topple the galaxy)

what really grinded my gears is that, the crew of the Minerva could've fought alongside the Archangel, but nooooooo, they stupidly blindingly followed orders from a corrupt chairman, who thought he could change the world, there was so much they could've done, but they wasted EVERY possibility to change sides during the series.

Gundam SEED Destiny stopped being good when Kira and Family showed up. Shinn and Athrun were a better duo. Also, R.I.P Saviour Gundam

I watched another GSD where things "could've" been better, shinn killing both kira and athrun but then releasing he's doing more harm than good, he then abandons ZAFT, sides with ORB during the attack, lunamaria then releases herself whats going on and basically shinn pilots the justice cause that's what he fights for while luna pilots the strike freedom

Dude so glad you are doing these videos, I can’t wait for gundam unicorn and thunderbolt!

I think when I cross that bridge to watch the Cosmic Era timeline of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED/Destiny. I might have a different opinion than what you were saying in this video. For what I hear this anime is very popular in Japan and most of the people that I know like SEED but had a mixed reaction on SEED Destiny.

I remember noticing that the MiNERVa and the entirety of its main crew were somewhat poor man's copies of main characters from NGE and I haven't been able to forgive SEED Destiny for wasting my time like that...

Agree with you complete...it squandered the potential that Gundam SEED opened...the fact that it took so long for the movie to finally arrive and the fact that they switched to another alternate universe Gundam series (Gundam 00). And then look at took characters in Code Geass that were inspired in part by Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny. And then don't forget the chaos behind the scenes on the VA side particularly on Cagalli and her original VA...it would not be until Gundam AGE that the dubious title of Gundam SEED Destiny being the worst was dethroned (we do not speak of G-Savior here).

Rau was so mad about being a clone that he cloned himself..... sigh.... and then Dullandal was so sad about not impressing the girl he wanted he signed onto clone boys plan to exterminate humanity... even though he gets her anyway by becoming a Boss...

23:47 Drama for the Sake of Drama is NEVER a Good Sign in a Show....

Are you going to make a review of Gundam Seed Freedom? I wanted to hear BOOFIRE191 thoughts as he point out many of Seed Destiny flaws. He hasn’t been making videos for a while. You seem to share similar opinions like him so I wondering what you think of the film?

@BigMicahC How exactly is Rau the WORST Char clone? Can you go in depth about that?

After watching this video: this anime had more wasted potential than a Chicago Bears drafted Quarterback

Durandal attempting to assassinate Lacus reveals an ulterior motive. The payoff is the destiny plan, which Durandal correctly surmise Kira, Lacus, and Athrun would ultimately reject. Durandal does not need Lacus to support the war. He needs her to not interfere. Everyone become suspicious when they realize the Machiavellian move Durandal tried to pull. That's why Athrun became so hostile/inconsistent around Durandal.

Micah's completely right Gundams 100% are cooler than Zoids.

Kira, Orb and the do gooders made a wrong path of direction

about Boofire, it's a little bit sad that he hasn't done anything in about a year.

The main thing I hate about seed and seed destiny is the character that is killed then brought back from death Make the death mean something Let them stay dead Like my personal favorite all gundam seed is Natarl Badgiruel a tactical officer and genius Died They left her dead so her death would mean something Flay allster died Kudzu bulkirk died Nicole Amalfi Died ( he played the piano) Let there death mean something Andrew Waltfeild amazing in seed the Conversation with Kira about the battle and so own was amazing. So do they let death leave a impact on Kira NOOO they bring Andrew back Stop bringing back the dead let there death carry a weight Kira death could driven Cagalli into a bad ass leader that could change everything for her country Nooo let bring Kira back twice

11:59 YES! This very topic here. This very topic about Gundam Seed and it's backpacks is why I hate the mecha designs so much. The Kira Yamato line of gundams have backpacks that jut out in all directions, without actual purpose. They are there to just look cool. And they do. But Goddamn, the mess of metal these backpacks have is so impractical. Seed designs have a problem with excess. Astray Red frame as-is is so magical and sleek. Everyone can agree that this melee-main machine that has no giant backpack on it's back will kick ass holding a katana. Compare that to Astray Red frame Dragon. That absolute piece of shit just strapped a gigantic backpack, just to store three gigantic unwieldy Caletwlch that's harder to fight with. And the katanas are still there

I think for Durandal's Destiny Plan. I think his motivation for that plan appeared on Episode 29 so it for me, it did not come out of nowhere.

As someone who watched the anime 10 different times and eventually grew to enjoy it as a guilty pleasure of sorts, I commend you for risking your sanity to talk about the anime for 1 hour straight without interruptions. Imo the games and mangas actually do a better job than the anime. It’s interesting how Bandai and other writers tried their best to further expand the lore and plot that the anime failed to do so. Honestly, even though I enjoy the subtle themes and messages of the anime, I do find many elements of the story could have been improved on(00 did it better). The plot holes and inconsistencies of SEED DESTINY in itself could be a whole 10 hour video lol. I’ve noticed you skimmed over the last ten episodes of the anime hella fast too(I don’t blame you those episodes were ass).

With how Gundam SEED Destiny turned out, I am actually kinda glad that Miriallia didn't appear that much and Fllay (the Gundam SEED character with the most potential for greatness, yes, really) didn't appear at all, as they would have probably both been RUINED in this show.

I remember a scene in SEED when Kagali meets Athrun when they're stranded on an island. When he goes to lay a hand on her shoulder in a consoling moment, a crab crawls out of her hair onto Athrun's hand. [juvenile moment]Athrun caught crabs from Kagali...[/moment]

Having recently gone back and watched Gundam Seed and Destiny again, to be honest, I'm not sure I agree entirely that Athrun is inconsistent in this show, especially not with the examples used in this video. The reason why Athrun isn't happy with what Shinn said at 30:02 is because that's not what Shinn said. The things Shinn said to Durandal are not in line with what Athrun was trying to tell him. Shinn didn't say anything about power and purpose. Shinn said that even though peace is preferable to fighting, sometimes people have no choice but to fight. Athrun is bothered by that because it basically echoes what Patrick Zala said when he set out on his campaign to eradicate the Naturals. Shinn is also coming from almost the exact same place as Patrick, in that Shinn and Patrick both lost people they cared deeply about, and that drove Patrick on a destructive campaign of vengeance, and the world was worse off for it, almost killing ungodly numbers of people on Earth and rendering the planet uninhabitable. This is why Athrun follows up on Shinn's statement by saying that if someone kills, and then that person is killed for being a killer, the world will never find peace. Athrun isn't disagreeing with what Shinn said outright, because it's true, sometimes there are situations where there's no choice but to fight, however, he's trying to give Shinn another lesson by saying that there's something that Shinn is forgetting. Fighting in an endless cycle of defending yourself and seeking revenge for the attack against you doesn't benefit you or the world at all. In one of the other examples that was shown, when he chastises Shinn, saying, "War is not some game to play the hero," he does this because Shinn ignored the orders he was given, and the ZAFT forces aboard the Nyiragongo died because Shinn got carried away and strayed too far from everyone else. Then, when the battle was already won, Shinn decided to kill enemies that couldn't fight back and played hero in order to stroke his own ego. Chastising Shinn for his actions in that deployment still align with his statement that with power comes responsibility and the battlefield isn't a place where you can just do whatever you want just because you can. This is also consistent with what we know about Athrun up to this point, he became a soldier because there are things he wants to protect, not because he wanted to be a hero. Even though Shinn did a good thing in liberating the people forced to work on that Earth Forces' base, he also took lives unnecessarily and allied lives were lost because of his indiscretion. I think a big reason why it feels like there's inconsistency with the things Athrun says and does in Destiny is because he still believes in the things he learned in Seed, but he isn't completely sure how to get there. This is why he allies himself with Durandal and rejoins ZAFT at the start, because he believed it was the right thing to do at the time in order to fight for what he believed in, which was peace between the world powers. Athrun makes mistakes in this show, but he learns and figures stuff out for himself. That being said, of course he isn't perfect, and he's not completely free of all the problems with the show. Also while I agree with most of the things said here about Kira, I wouldn't say Kira was responsible for Heine's death. Heine was an experienced pilot and should've known that the Gaia was still a threat and was still active. He was an idiot for placing himself in between the Freedom and an active threat that was trying to attack it. If you ask me, Gundam Seed Destiny is a show where you can kind of see what they were trying to go for, and it was a show that definitely had something to say, but ultimately fell way short of what it was trying to be. But man, if you thought Gundam Seed Destiny was bad, check out an anime called Valvrave the Liberator if you haven't already. That show brings mecha anime to lows I didn't even think were possible, and makes Gundam Seed Destiny look like a masterpiece by comparison.

About the designs of the Zaku Warrior, the Gouf Ignited and the Dom Trooper we are presented in Seed Destiny, in my opinion they look older and more rustic than the designs of the GINN, the CGUE and GUAIZ. They should have stuck with them in the second season. As for the color separation you mention in the video, I initially disagreed with it, but now I understand. I personally like Mu's Windam, but my opinion is probably biased considering that this grunt is my favourite kit to build. Lastly, I want to add that the EA's suits felt very weak in contrast to ZAFT's, which makes no sense at all.

You honestly need to do a video on the problems with 90's anime sometime. Between the people with nostalgia blindness and the ones that think of anime that first came west in that period as 90's Anime you have a lot of talk about it being a golden age. Of course the modern state of Anime might not be helping matters.

It’s pretty well known that Destiny was rushed into production after the team already did Seed, the compilation films, and one other project back to back. And the behind the scenes drama is also fairly well known, scripts being late, animators overworked, Fukuda spending more time on interviews, Morosawa being hospitalized which just made the script issues even worse. It was hell to work on Destiny. That said, I agree Kira doesn’t need to be here. He’s basically god coded and it’s bad. Also my dude, don’t pretend that UC doesn’t have stupid MS designs that don’t make sense. Especially a lot of the monster of the week shit Amuro had to deal with back in 0079. And don’t get me started on a lot of the enemy designs in Zeta and ZZ, or whatever they were thinking for Victory’s and Crossbone’s bad guy MS Designs 😅

i am an armature at writing and cold have written a better script for this disaster

Im an avid fan of Cosmic Era but damn, all the points u said are true. U really hit the nail with the things u said about Cagalli

Who were the siblings the boy and girl in the pink dress

I think they should have had Kira be more affected by the words of Rau, actually giving him some character

It's saddening cause I somehow enjoyed the first half of Destiny. Great music and somehow decent slide show fights.(Yeah, that stock footage is jarring asf) Shinn can be annoying but I convinced myself this is just part of his character arc. Like how Kamille Bidan and Amuro Ray matured in their own shows. So far, the only media I knew that did seed destiny story some justice is it's revised story in Super Robot wars Z. Not counting multiple spin offs that were infinitely better like stargazer and astray.

The sad thing about this show is the main character artist is the guy who did s-CRY-ed one of my favorite anime.

kinda hard to write a good show when the writer's only claim to fame is the daytime soap-opera genre, who also had a chip to slander every member of the cast. not the best range when the goal is a consistent A to B space action/drama.

If you want to see the utter shit storm of the seed series, check out the interviews of fukuoka, pure cash grab and denial of anything ever wrong

I think the green cannon on the Destiny was to associate it with the Perfect Strike as part of the same design lineage.

I think Destiny failed because it doesn't know what it is, is it a completely new sequel or is it a homage to Gundam Zeta like the original Seed was to 0079, also the main character switching probably didn't help.

Code Geass was also guilty of strapping jetpacks to Mecha. I hated it.

11:32 aye, respect the Dragonar. It's pretty cool looking in the show. Peace ✌🏻

Destiny gundam is weird in a sense that they just slap a lot of different things with different styles onto a gundam (the wings, the main body, the laser cannon, the anti ship sword all have different styles, wings super angular and edgy, main body is boxy, and the sword is somewhere in between and the cannon is just long boxy again) yet somehow it ends up working. I think it's fine for it to be so colorful given it's identity as a very slapstick kind of gundam that can do anything. blast impulse do be ugly tho

I'm always down to see someone rip into SEED and Destiny.

I'm looking forward to your Gundam Seed Freedom review 🫡

21:39 And not at all helped by the poor funding decisions and behind the scenes drama! As well as the writers not having a spine and caving in to peer pressure.

I have to stop because that call on boofire made me hurt since he's been quiet for so long.

I like the Gundam Designs In Seed. The story is meh

The first half of the show was good. But the second half became very rushed and stupid. It felt like we skipped like 20 more episodes we could of gotten that might of fixed so much

The only thing I liked about SEED was the design of the grunt units and the designs of the environments. Except the goofy looking design of the PLANT Colonies. The rest of SEED and its tie-ins suck.

Glad to hear ppl have same opinion about kira being an annoying shit more than shin. His action is double standard, and he os allow to do whatever he like, those opposing him are all evil.

1:22 in. GSD'S only potential was as a Zeta rip off, just as SEED was a 0079 rip-off. I'll admit that I like the CE timeline, I like the mecha design, and the coordinator stuff was an interesting take on Newtypes. Unfortunately, even that stuff is just a pale imitation of the UC stuff. Same goes for the few good characters like Waltfeld and La Flaga, who are redone Ramba Ral and Slegger Law with more screen time. And no, I'm not at alt timeline hater. Turn A is God tier(though it's barely alt history), and I like IBO and 00. I also genuinely think AGE was wasted potential.

Just thought I'd point this out but, you do know that the gundams were built by ZAFT in seed destiny and stolen by the earth alliance so the argument that the color not telling you whos army they're apart of is mute because they were supposed to be used by ZAFT. Even the strike freedom, infinite justice and akatsuki were built by coordinators from orb and from the Clyne faction so the coordinators have a distinct style over the Earth Alliance. You could easily tell which non gundam mobile suits belonged to what faction based off the design and each military did have their own color separation along with different design philosophies. More research was needed.

The last two episodes of SEED: Destiny were very choppy and rushed. It took me finding the movie ova to appreciate it better.

I agree with the color theory idea. I remember back then when I was watching this, I just could not tell which side is which because all of the colors for the different MS were just so different.

Disagree on Mecha designs. Many of SEED Destiny's mecha designs were terrible in comparison to SEED. Sure they were iconic and looked nice on screen but they lacked creativity. For example, the titular Impulse Gundam was a literal ZAFT knockoff of the Strike Gundam while several of the other Gundams, resembled the common grunts used in the show(On screen, the Savior Gundam looked more the Grunt mobile suit Murasame in both MA and MS form.). SEED Destiny also downplayed much of the new Gundam capabilities as they were often turned into chew toys for the older Freedom Gundam from Gundam SEED.(I should also mention the Chaos Gundam being destroyed by three Murasame grunts.) Gundam SEED not only brought back many elements of the original Gundam designs but it also gave them unique twist that made them so iconic and well liked. The fact that the common "grunt" Gundam types were introduced very late in the series also made them stand out even more. If one were to make a poll on whether SEED Destiny Gundam or SEED Gundam designs were better, you'll hear a lot of people saying SEED Gundam designs over SEED Destiny. On the other hand, your intro nearly summed up everything wrong about GSD. The person who was directing the show for GSD was changed out mid way through the show and since both directors had different views on how they wanted SEED Destiny to play out, we ended up with this terrible plot development. Had they kept the original director, I'm sure SEED Destiny would have been almost as good as Gundam SEED, if not better.

“If Garma Zabi was a date r*pist…” What do you mean if? Pretty sure he was. We are talking about the same person who non-chalantly let themselves into Char’s bathroom while Char was taking a shower.

Any video that calls out Kira's bullshit is a legend in my book. Thank you for calling out the numerous flaws of GS/GSD and the level of plot armor this twink had. We just hate to see the lack of intelligence that Kira fanboys have. They've literally been supporting terrible writing for the past 15+ years. GS/GSD should have focused on Athrun and Shinn all the way. You're absolutely right that Kira just feels misplaced, like he was INSERTED in there without good reason.

remember its not a financial failure, and in the end thats all investors care about

I just want to say simply that. I agree with most of your points on the characters. Some of the mecha design nitpicks not as much. For instance Destiny's gun is not distracting dude get over it lol. Also I like Gaia's design it's a clear evolution from BuCues, which were basically running on high speed treads and legs. I think you missed an ugly design in the Chaos Gundam, it's MA mode is so weird. I felt Strike Freedom was a lazy design, it's just Freedom 2.0 with gold parts lmao. Similarly the Infinite Justice is in a similar vein not much different to the original it's just the 2.0 Justice haha. I like some of the new grunts in this installment, not so big on the Goufs or Doms that are just borrowed from UC and done up all fancy. Also Neo's Windam is not pink it's purple try looking at the lineart on Gundam wiki. The shade of purple and green go well than say pink and green(which some suits even in later installments did do) I overall enjoy SEED, SEED Destiny is a miixed bag and I like the good ideas or elements they had in it. But there was just so many things wrong that went wrong, dumb plot ideas/direction.

While I’m not the biggest fan of Seed preferring 00 and even the original series to it, I do have to admit modular equipment is one of my favorite ideas and that eventually a pack with all the packs combined would be developed is something I just enjoy in mech designs, there’s nothing wrong with having a set equipment loadout with a few variations but I like versatility.

Im glad that my first introduction to Gundam series was Iron Blooded Orphans (ye, S2 braindead sucks because apparently the director simped one of the VAs thus giving her a god-like plot armor).

I believe SEED biggest sin is that it’s message; that fighting is meaningless and nobody should be fighting even if you’re fighting for a just cause like protect your home, family and loved ones. That message is amoral if you think about it. ZAFT/PLANTS got nuked for just existing due to genetics are justified to fight back to avenge the innocent lives that were killed for no reason. But SEED for some dumb reason makes ZAFT the bad guys. Because the message is that fighting, even it’s for what’s right, is still bad. In Destiny, ZAFT ARE THE GOOD GUYS. The Minerva Crew and Meer were helping people in the war. But due to the Kira’s ideals and the theme of the show, it’s still seen as evil to just simply fighting back against GENOCIDAL MANIACS who are nuke happy. Which makes no sense at all. In the end, SEED is bad because it or Fukuda or his wife didn’t understand how Gundam viewed war. That it is treated as a tragedy that had to happen. But sometimes if a monsters like Giren, The Titans or Blue Cosmos are treating the lives of good people, somebody has to get into a Gundam to kick some ass to protect people. That’s why Seed fails as a Gundam series.

To me, the flightpacks always more of a space thing, for suits that wore not intended to be used in space, but have to be retrofitted to be usable on short notice. Think the backpack that makes the Gundam MKII into the Super Gundam. It's just a backpack with weapons and better thrusters for space movement. As for the Gaia I always felt bad for the zoid form, which to me felt like something could have been a Hit and run build suit, but in anime that would be a shit thing to watch. Mu and Shin got the worse out of the cast, one brought back for no real reason after having one of the best deaths of the mentor character, and the other just kept the Protag seat warm for the guy from the first show.

Great video

I get where you’re coming from with your video about seed destiny. About how it seems like a wasted anime, however you have to also understand to that destiny basically taking the concept of seed and basically twisting it saying you saw it from the earth forces POV now you are seen it from the Zaft forces POV. Now I like to both anime of seed and seed Destiny The only character that I had a complain about a course is the new protagonist shin Asuka, who is basically Kira Yamato from the original, and it’s basically saying hey what if we made the main protagonist from the previous show working with the opposing faction. Plus if you also notice to them most of the Zaft Armaments that they have are basically copy and paste versions of the archangel and the Gundam‘s themselves. For example the impulse Gundam is basically the strike Gundam with the same packs albeit with zaft modifications, does savior is just an upgraded version of the aegis, and you have the other gundams that similar to the other three. Now the narrative that they were trying to do for the sequel series was in fact about free will vs destiny, Choice versus Fate. But when you got a new protagonist that spends most of his time brooding and acting like an arrogant jerk and actually think for himself I believe it makes it worth noting that I’ll stick with the original protagonist then the new one. One last thing I also want to add maybe you can check out the movie versions of seed destiny and do a review on that which of my honest opinion kind of fixes a lot of issues that the episodes had done it’s what they also did with the original Gundam seed and I bought all three versions of the OVA movies.

The best thing about seed and seed destiny is the banger soundtracks, opening and ending, nami tamaki is amazing and lacus is like the gundam version of macross heroine

An interesting side note about the color decisions in CE is that as far as im aware PS armor can have its colors changed easily so they could have changed that shit all willy nilly in destiny eventually to stick with an armys theme.

Kira was Mary sue man

Long story short... Seed Destiny is just a shitty, poor imitation of Zeta Gundam, that's it.

The writers doesn't Care for main character and the plot of destiny they all care for Jesus yamato😅 only because he can't be wrong from everything just because this idiot treat him like a god even though the kid almost died just the writers want him alive because he's god for them This people are blind And finally someone see who really killed by accidently shinn parents it's literally kira who kills shinn parents and they just forget everything for the sake of their Kira Yamato

Just a thing, that whole "Strapajettoitsback" did come back, in G Reco, another stinker.

I liked the design/looks of the characters in gundam seed, especially the female characters like Meer, Meyrin, Natarle, Flay and Cagalli.

Despite of major problems on that show, seed destiny was still commercially success if we are talking about sales of merch and ratings.

The most frustrating part about Gundam is the community, it constantly wants to tell people what to like and why to like something. I think it's because how long and varied the show actually has been over time. I personally loved Gundam Seed but thought Destiny was pretty weak and also think Seed has some of the best ms design. Do I think gsd was an abject failure? It's hard to say and dependent on the hierarchy of value you use and against what perceptions. Like most older fans I know (I'm 35 so I count I think) basically love everything the uc spits out and ya most of it is pretty decent but I think some it is trash, especially War in the Pocket. But than again one of my best friends loved that one and can't stand most of the us, his favorite is ac. Gundam is something very hard to pin down Imo and that's a good thing. A series that truly has something for most people (assuming you like mecha lol) from the little Pocket War all the way to something like the insanity of G Gundum.

I absolutely liked seed but the only mistake I made was thinking that destiny would be just as good if not better. I held out belief that things will get better till the very end but it didn't. I mean for god sakes, my absolute favorite gundam of all time, The destiny lost to justice twice! the first time I was like "oh he lost? I guess that's good, it'll make the protagonists win that much better when he gets it back next time" And he never does! I was so deflated when I saw the most anti-climactic finale in anime history. This series always elicits a love and hate reaction from me.