Hey guys! Sorry I forgot, but the Rate the Mecha video I did for Gundam Seed is now in the description like the vid says. My bad!

G is gundam through the eyes of a shonen while Seed is gundam through the eyes of a shoujo....gundam for women and emo teen boys

What I always found hilarious about seed and destiny is that the most dangerous organization was not the good guys or the bad guys not even the government it was a singer and her groupies 🤣

Kira was at ground zero of a nuclear explosion. Remember that his BS suit was powered by a nuclear reactor. He survived a nuclear explosion at its center.

Ya know, one thing that struck me as odd is when Kira killed Nicol. Up until that point, he had been dropping enemy pilots like flies, some in quite brutal ways, like the point blank shot in the desert. When he killed Nicol though, he acted like it was the first time he'd killed someone, which doesn't make any sense narratively. I'm guessing it was only put in there to up the drama with Athrun and extend their pissing match a while longer.

And on the point of the anime that came out at that time, the thing is that we got some real gems that actually did everything much better. Chief among them being the 2003 version of Full Metal Alchemist. If anything, that show did better than it's source material at portraying moral complexities. As for why SEED was popular, the most it seems to be was that it was a simple escapism fantasy. That is the thing with many of these kinds of poorly written works with Gary Stu protagonists. They just appeal to the regular masses with a power fantasy and simple, on the nose themes.

The most interesting thing about Amuro is that he was (just like Shinji Ikari) a deconstruction of Kouji Kabuto from Mazinger Z. Whereas Kouji is a brave and hot blooded guy in a clear cut good vs evil fight, Amuro is a shy boy thrust in a complex situation far bigger than him, where making the right choice isn't as easy as pummeling the monster of the week.

Was there any reason to dunk on Naruto and Inuyasha? They aren't really supposed to be complex political war dramas like Gundam. They are literally Japanese saturday morning cartoons

Kits survived because the anime made the explosion way too massive. It was only supposed to be just his Gundam heavily damaged. The Astray manga shows the red frames pilot Low witnessing the fight and the explosion in his newly acquired red frame astray. The strike was just heavily damaged but still intact. The pilot then rescues Kira from the cockpit and proceeds to transport him to where he wakes up from his coma. One thing about the show is a lot of things were poorly enacted. Like they knew Kira was gonna survive but made the explosion overkill to the point where it really is like “No the hell he didn’t survive that”. They should’ve toned it down and not animated the strike blowing to pieces because in the manga it was strong enough to mainly withstand the blast point blank staying mostly intact. Just not operational anymore and heavily damaged. I blame the directing.

Yep, Gundam Seed and it’s sequel sucks. The whole every faction is evil and everyone is a racist. Now, Earth Alliance is basically Titans of UC and ZAFT is a neoZeon faction. It’s like we get it! War is hell is like super obvious unlike UC. Now, Earth Federation was flawed but willing to reform to make things better while Zeon are basically space Nazis with imperial Japan mentality. Your analysis on the characters is spot on.

Even as a kid who barely understood the plot I hated Kira and hoped Shinn finally beat him in Seed Destiny LOL and then everything got even worse somehow

You had me right up until you praised the redub, because that was budget trash. I swear to god 90% of the cast could have been the same person, or if they weren't they didn't even try to sound any different from one another. Various instances of characters having off-screen discussions are incomprehensible because I have no fucking clue who's actually saying what to who.

Seed was a good entry point for new viewers to the moble suit in war at the time, myself included. But it was understandably hated by die hard gundam fans, it tries to be a simplfied version of the orginal series. Also Fye was manipulating Kira when he was emotionally vulnerable, trying to get him to kill all enemies, something Amuro never had to deal with.

I'm curious to know what your thoughts on Gundam 00 are, considering it's the show that came directly after all of seed wrapped up.

@Micah Curtis Why do you like the NYAV dub over the Ocean dub?

Where in the description is the link to the video about the mech designs that you mentioned in this video at 21:48?

They need to redo Gundam Seed. It could use better writing.

Seed's biggest problem in my eyes, as having gone through G 79 to Narrative in chronological order, is that it lacks humanity. Sure, it has gore, death, etc. But none of that has the gravitas it needs. Deaths are replayed over and over. People give the dead characterisation AFTER THEY DIE and people feel really disposable, which is a big issue in a show trying to remake 79 and Zeta, shows that relied heavily on the dangerous journey the main characters were on, and the sacrifices some had to make to get them to the finish line. When Ryu rams his ship into the enemy, it is given the proper build up, gravitas and CONSEQUENCES. Bright Noa, the fearless Captain of the Trojan Horse, breaks down begging for forgiveness. No such humanity is present in Seed or Destiny. Death is comical. You want these people to die just to see how badly they screw it up. It's not a tragedy of war story, it's a black comedy.

A friend once said, Seed and its sequel is UC Gundam's mentally challenged cousin. It pays a lot of tribute to UC, but fails to understand half of why UC Gundam works so well down to the design of the characters themselves. Kira is a nice tribute to Amuro up until the Flay affair, and I couldn't think of a more idiotic way to "advance" a character in the story. Whereas Amuro earns a lot of the things that makes him who is, whether good or bad ones, and learn from it. Kira simply refuses and needs the power of convenience to do what he should thus making a journey pretty much bland overall. That's not to say Seed and its sequel didn't have good characters it did, but they hardly carry the plot when the main premise is painful to watch. Also Cosmic Era possibly had the most confusing factions in the entire franchise. Not in the neutral sense like how they make Feddies dickish most of the time even if they're the "good guys". But it's hard to understand what ZAFT, Earth Alliance, and Orb Union really wants and the entire war and conflict seems pointless. Even more pointless than the one they did for Gundam Wing because G Wing at least had compelling faction leaders.

Good video. Thought the Seed premise was interesting, but… you know how they went with it. What do you think of Gundam Age?

The only things I like about the Seed series: 1) Weapons & Designs of the Grunt units 2) Some OSTs 3) Lacus, Murrue, Meyrin, & Lunamaria Just these.

Ill admit Kira is a character I thought was really cool when I was like 12 years old but the older I became the more detached I was from the character. the thing about Kira and Amuro is that even by todays standards Amuro is such a unique character there’s really not many like him while Kira is basically no different from your standard modern anime protagonist

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I despise Seed, but I disagree with the remastered dub being better. The performances were off and lots of unnecessary line changes that don't even improve the story. Example of this is when Kira says in response to seeing the Strike's weapon options "Here we go" in the remastered when in the original dub and sub he says "That's all there is" and "That's it" respectively. The latters do a better job of reflecting his frustration during a desperate situation, making him more human and relatable, while the former makes him into an even more generic anime character.

Seed has a world building problem. Like you said in the video the ideas are there, but their not explored. Another crutch seed has is that Astray wound up fixing most of the holes in the series such as how Kira wound up in the colony thanks to the Junk guild or further going into more detail on George Glenn and what he wanted for the future of humanity by introducing coordinators which that also seems to be a bit problem. There's low drawback to being a coordinator when compared to naturals, but that's a long topic to cover.

This needs like another 2 hours of tearing this show apart. This is like the new 52 but worse.

I can't really say I know a lot about Gundam Seed. I watched a few eps when it aired briefly in the US and couldn't really get into it. The story never really interested me (no shame if you like it) I think the thing kind of turns me more off to it, is that it seems there's SO much of Gundam Seed that it just kind of proliferates Gundam. It's probably due to their being SO many mobile suits in SEED and it having almost 2x the number of eps than any other gundam series. So just seeing SO MUCH of something I found to be not very appealing.....kind of makes it MORE unappealing? If that makes any sense.

Have you thought about the possibility that Asians would view Gundam differently than Americans? As a singaporean myself, I quite enjoyed Gundam seed and destiny more than any other series. Not just in terms of how cool the mechas are but because of how asian-like interactions the characters are that are super relatable to me. I guess different locations play alot in how we view things.

Still don't care for this series either; even back in the day I gave up on Destiny after the first few episodes. "A Typical Episode of Gundam Seed Destiny" is a much more entertaining piece of work.

Gundam Seed is a true op protagonist power fantasy like many isekai anime.

Gundam SEED franchise is popular in Asia because Asians are into the romance drama that involves relationship conflicts and NTR/cheating. Most importantly, the robot designs are really good. Some people compare Gundam Wing to SEED because they are comparably successful in both Japan and outside except for SEED being mostly prominent in Asia, while Wing is even. My biggest problem with SEED is the author and his wife ruining the Destiny sequel. Director Fukuda was made into his position due to nepotism which is very common in Asia, while his wife was unqualified due to her illness and inexperience. Worse than that, Fukuda was definitely cheating on his wife because he later remarried with the same accused person after his wife's death. SEED and Destiny are both heavily leaning forwards NTR/Cheating genre which can describe the director's subconsciousness of his action at the time. SEED Freedom has largely fixed the franchise to be normal again after Destiny debacle. What I am quite worried about SEED & Destiny is the heavily fascist undertone which is not traditional in the Gundam, a franchise that was pioneered by Japanese socialists in 20th century. I won't go into politics but the problems with SEED are how favorably one-sided towards the coordinators who got no flaws and are always being antagonized by Naturals who are depicted as savages. It reminds me closely to Tarzan novel which the original version is highly fascist and eugenic. Even Newtypes in UC are optionally available for Natural people if they live in space long enough. However, you are born into coordinators in SEED, and there is no other way for Naturals to become equal. Coordinators, except for main characters, are also supremacists who advocate to kill all Naturals. By the end of the series, all main characters join the coordinators to leave the Naturals at a disadvantage - the biggest problem is Destiny. I am not sure if this is intentional from either Fukuda or his wife. This is quite disturbing really! It leaves a message that inferior people are racist monsters that should die to more advanced ubermensch. Today, fascism and eugenics are still popular ideas that you occasionally have some Japanese elites want to kill all poor, old, sick people.

What I learned from gundam Seed. Teenage romance drama, plot armour, grunt units don't mean a thing and Kira is jesus.

Kira's survival of the explosion was explained in the Astray Manga. Doesn't make it any better, but just laying that out there.

I mean, I agree with most of your points - Though the attack on 2000s anime feels a little over generalised and unneeded😅

Is it true the lead writer on seed destiny got brain cancer?

I kinda wonder what your opinion on Code Geass would be .

I just finish seed and do you guys think I should seed destiny casue I think after finish it its pretty average not bad for me

To be fair, there's a montage in the first episode that shows a bit of his day to day life as a high school student and either he or his friends complain their robotics teacher is giving him way too much workload. - But him beeing an exceedingly brilliant high school student still does not explain all the magic trick he pulls out of the Strike later on.

And there it is, nice disection good sir, i love this series. But of course it has flaws....... A lot.

I think I may be biased. This is my first Gundam that I watched. Though thanks to getting into Super Robot Wars, I'm about to start watching a bunch of mecha. One of which is the OG gundam. So after a few weeks on the weekend binging a gundam I'll be able to look at seed without nostalgia goggles. I hope the OG gundam is that good. Since I hear a lot of praise about it.

Good to see you back in peak form.

characters Is dumb why they not drive and fly superman

You know when there was an mecha anime years when i had my first Netflix account about a girl who want to kill his brother because she wanted to avenge her friends that were killed by her brother. i mention this because that anime 9even i don{t remember the tittle= is a much better mecha anime then seed!

Hey can you do a video on Gundam 00. Personally I didn’t really like it, but hey you might turn around my opinion.

I do think you should watch Destiny because you might adopt the same position that I did Shin should have won.

I double dare you do a review of Seed Destiny and SRW 30

I hear goat in the background. You are forever my friend.

Jesus needs to have a Gundam battle with Buddha

its my favorite gundam series so to each their own

The saltiness over the fact that your first gundam series was wing.

I'm sure that Seed Destiny is going to look good compared to what ever Netflix is going to give us. Netflix screwed up Death Note and Cowboy Bebop. Need I say more?

I mean.. Seed the original series (TV 1-50) - not the movies or the sequel or its trash... Honestly I didn't have 'too many' issues with. Sure I had some I have had those with almost all of them. I mean.. If seed is an 'absolute failure' we need to literally eviscerate 00 (among others in the 'modern Gundam franchise)

I loved the gundam designs in seed and seed destiny but the characters... not so much.

Trust me, it is best you don't watch Destiny even if someone pays you. As you have probably heard, Destiny is worse, especially where Kira is involved. The fact Shinji Ikari of all people called him Kira Jesus Yamato tells you all you need to know. As far as my issues with both series are concerned, one is the fact that parts of the series are the most blatant copypastas of previous Gundam series, particularly the OG series. Second is how awful the characters are. As you said, the annoyance was dialed to eleven. And then we have, of course, Kira himself, though truth be told, much of the cast in general were as fake as Kira, just with less plot armor. Finally, the art style, both the cloned characters, and the mecha designs. From the second half of SEED onward especially, they were painful to look at. Animation saved it somewhat, but it doesn't stop the fact they came off as what we referred to back then as 'franken Gundams'. Wing was a masterpiece compared to the SEEF universe.

2 years later and Seed STILL sucks.

I got about halfway through the series before I stopped watching, I think, it was some fight in the desert, and it was Kira that killed it for me. I want to go back and watch Gundam Wing, bit I'm not sure how well it holds up a decade since I last watched it, but i gotta finish my real Cowboy Bebop run first.

Man I remember how much my friend who first introduced me to gundam hype me up about the show, and this is after i watched 00. I saw a DVD set of Seed and Destiny (b4 the remaster mind) on a sale, so I bought it. I watched Seed to its full ONCE, and I hated it so much I just didnt bother to open destiny dvd box. It's one thing about having a gary stu mc, its just how insufferable Kira is as the show progresses. Athrun at least have BALLS to be a soldier somewhat. Yzak is a good leader and a bro to Dearka (who is a bro too) when he is not made to be a joke when kira shows up in THE STRIKE!!! I can at least see Rau as a legit threat. Astray stories are great on the bright side though.

Gundam Seed was fine it has major flaws but it was still a good show. i call it Gundam as made by shonen jump.

Amrou : kid who becomes a soldier Heero : a warrior who is trying to a reason to stop fighting Kira : a winney little shit with a sipierodey complex sorry for any missed spell words

Seed has a few good elements- beeing the music, Rau la creuset and the jiggle- but yeah writing messups and Kira drag it aaaall down

You know as a fan of freedom of speech when it comes to anime i personally feel every anime has flaw there no such thing as a perfect anime all the way from Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (number 1 on MAL not like that means anything) to what ever the worst anime is so when i see people on youtube and any other platform talking about anime i take it with a grain of salt since no offence to anyone its just there opinion, anyways as seeing that Gundam seed is my number 1 pick for best anime i ever seen i figured it be fun to see another point of view and i got to say i had a fun time but it gets stale. Hate to say this as a fan of the show but i already knew all this when you seen this as much as i have so it funny to me that knows and seen a ton of really bad anime to hear that this was a fail got to check out your other content sorta wondering what you enjoy, got to say that its great you know you are a broken record at points

I love all gundam ( except for ZZ and Reconguista, not hate but feel they little cringe )

YAmato is slightly more correct, yaMAto is not. It’s more like YAMAto. Because each syllable is a separate character, and can be emphasized, unlike English, each word has only one emphasis

On the positive side, this Jesus does not turn the other cheek but blow things up with a giant mech.

Yea failed but making a bank

The only thing I know about Gundam Seed, is that awkwardly voice acted scene of Kira crying and screaming, while looking out a window into space.

I like Seed and Seed Destiny I know there is a lot to dislike about it but there are also bright spots like the action and the Gundam designs are cool. Kira stinks but sometimes that is just how anime works.

the series that brought Gundam back from the brink is a failure, huh? riiiiiight.

Seed is very digestible in comparison to older series, especially for children, fuck destiny tho/

Honestly, I like the concept of the show, a war between genetically modified humans and naturally born humans, the impact and the ramifications of genetic engineering, coordinators see themselves superior, naturals see coordinators as unnatural, all the thing, I like it.....except the main character and where the story was focused, was lame.

Still find it odd people would like this, even with me liking stuff like the Super Mario Bros. movie, unironically. Give that movie this, it has more heart and good writing than this show seems to.

But still better than build series it not about kids playing with toys or talking animals

Don't give a crap what you say about seed. It one if my favorite gundam series out there and if you don't like that I like it just scroll pass my comment. I know all the crap people say about the Series, but I just don't care. I like what I like

Still one of the BEST series to date ~ even with its flaws it still holds up to this day ;)

SEED AND DESTINY SOLID ! ORIGINAL ENGLISH!

I'm only here because I've heard that Gundam seed is the cause why Ultraman Nexus flipped years ago

Disliked ;)

The coordinators vs naturals theme never worked for me. I find it hard to sympathize with the coordinators. Look at the spacenoids in universal century. The original "pioneers" were either political criminals or beggars that were forced out to the colonies. The whole "space colonization program" was just a glorified population control. Zeon is fighting for a right cause but with horrendous means. While the corrupted earth federation wanted to keep the status quo. Meanwhile, you can't have a poor person pay for a doctor to have his child genetically modified as a coordinator. The only ones who have money and power can afford it. They choose to seclude themselves and call themselves elite over the "inferior" naturals. I find seed better than destiny. I love it for the music and some mecha designs. If it weren't for the stock footages, I would've appreciated the fights even more than wing.

Ah yes. The complete and utter failure of the series that saved the franchise and stopped Sunrise from going bankrupt. Complete failure. I'll admit though that looking back it's pretty trashy but as a teen I loved it, and so did many other teenagers, so they knew their audience and played to it.

How have I not commented on this one? I swear I've seen it before, and I can never help myself when it comes to dumping on Seed. As far as Seed's more commonly mentioned problems go, I can be extremely forgiving. The repeated animation. The suit design (though largely retroactively salvaged by Seed having some of the best gunpla in the entire franchise). The fact that every character bar one (and I _will_ get to that...) can't cry in a way that doesn't sound unintentionally funny. Basically, if I can tell what you're _trying_ to convey, I'll cut you some slack on production mechanics unless the attempted execution is unavoidably hilarious, like with the crying thing, or the line about Nicol and the piano. If Seed's problems were being technically ugly or inept animation mistakes, I could let it slide. But no, Seed had to suck in the one way I cannot forgive: the writing. And when it comes to Seed's writing, though there are still many flaws to pick on unique to the writing, most of those are similarly merely stupid or annoying (read: Jesus Yamato)... except for one flaw which is downright gross and cruel: Flay. I do _not_ slight you for that "banging [Flay] like a snare drum" bit because that is the beginning and end for the utility Seed thinks it can extract from Flay's character. (Though for the record, Kira didn't cuck one of his friends. ...He cucked _two_ of his friends after stealing Lacus from Athrun... somehow... IDK... IDGAF...) Maybe the reason it's called Gundam _Seed_ is because it's permanently stained with c[u]m. You could achieve the same effect as Flay by drawing a sw[a]stika on the forehead of a Real Doll. The problem is that if you actually take the time to analyze Flay's arc (and you'll have plenty of time given that she's the only character in the show who _has_ an arc...), what Seed shows about Flay and what it tells about her are at complete odds. She turns "racist" (in the interest of time, I'll skip my spiel about how coordinators aren't a race and how the prejudice against them around which all of Seed revolves around is actually really stupid...) at the mere _whiff_ of coordinator, but she seems to have an exception for Kira, which _already_ isn't how racism works. That is until Kira lets Flay's dad die because he was too busy jacking beam sabers with his hetero life partner to actually do a damn thing. (Though frankly Mu wasn't much help either. He was a literal newtype piloting what Seed has the _balls_ to call a mobile armor against two GINN grunts with unnamed pilots, and he _still_ gets outflown. "Hawk of Endymion" my a[ss]...) It's almost like Flay wasn't racist so much as she specifically hated Kira for that one specific event. She doesn't give a solitary damn about coordinators or naturals or anything like that. It wouldn't make sense for her to have a particular stake in the era's politics when there are new shoes at the mall to buy. (And before you call that s[e]xist, that's basically just how Seed treats Flay before Lacus shows up.) All that matters to Flay is the problem directly in her face: that she is all alone in a cruel, cold universe that killed her daddy. That's the kind of attitude that fits a flighty, skittish rich girl. She's not a Machiavellian schemer. She's not even all _that_ smart. She's alone, and she wants the one who _made_ her alone to take responsibility. Kira got her dad killed, therefore Kira has to be the one to take care of her. (Also, she might have been trying to get back at Sai for being a condescending douche, but Sai is another problem altogether. If Flay is the most abused characters, I'd call out Sai and Yzak as the most squandered.) You see this all come to a head when Kira finally breaks up with Flay. In the original Japanese audio (fun fact: Flay shares a VA with Badgiruel in the original Japanese, hence why the original Japanese is so uniquely gut-wrenching), you get the impression that Flay assumed that Kira was playing games with her, too. Kira couldn't _possibly_ be so stupid as to not realize what was going on, Flay figured. But when she realized that, no, Kira really _was_ that dumb, it hit her that all the time Kira spent with her was because he genuinely cared about her (because of course he did; Jesus-kun can do no wrong...). It wasn't just "pity" like she figured. She wasn't alone after all. Kira was there for her the whole time, and yet she almost broke him. And after it seemed like Athrun killed Kira, Flay blamed herself. She made _herself_ alone, which is what _actually_ spurred her change of heart after being kidnapped by Rau because he needed a living envelope for later... See what I mean about Seed trying to use Flay for the _dumbest_ stuff? Rau literally could've accomplished what he kidnapped Flay for by jettisoning a cardboard box out the airlock. Worst. Char clone. Ever! Flay spends the whole series a cosmic (era) chew toy because the writing doesn't know or care what to do with her. The story uses her and abuses her without any real thought as to how this otherwise super-privileged girly brat would act, treating her like just another crazy evil genocidal lunatic to add to the pile. (Considering Flay's peers in said pile, let's just _pretend_ that's fair...) More specifically, she's Kira's morality currency. She puts out whenever the writing needs Kira to be able to kill in a way that he can be morally absolved of later, which is super-gross for many reasons, most of which should be obvious given Flay's age, her mental health at the time, and the fact that she's hung out there by the writers for teenage boys to fap to anyway. Like I've got no problem with fanservice, but _wow._ Time and place, Seed. But what really sets Flay apart is that she's also granted just enough self-awareness to recognize and feel bad about her actions, but not so much agency that she can find any real redemption for what she does.

i Think Seed have role to revive the Gundam Series in early 2000 since Gundam wing and endless waltz. i know if you see from the story and plot point of view Seed is under even the victory gundam, which i think one of the worse story in gundam series (after G gundam of course). but Seed have it own role, without Seed i think there won't be any gundam series after the year 2000 and late 2000 even until now. you maybe should review G Gundam as the one who bring gundam series to the bottom after big success at Zeta and CCA. G gundam is like Seed, fail in every thing even bring the gundam series which as real robot to super robot (shining fingeeerrr...). Seed only downfall is the plot armor its made to the veteran of yachin du, and the ending that seem too pushy to make the series not more then any 36 or less episode.

Failure good sense of humor you got lol

5:24 Saying Amuro in 0079 suffered more than Kira in seed is absolute insanity, so lets compare the two: In 0079 Amuro left his mother behind to join the feds (who he could have visited any time after the oyw, along with her regretting leaving behind Amuro) He left his dad, who was a loon anyways, Kai, a guy on white base who he was kinda chill with, Matilda, a married woman he had a crush on and Lalah, a woman who he had like 2 actual conversations with Now lets compare him with Kira, who had to deal with the death of his best friend in Tolle, a mentor in Mu (lets ignore Seed destiny since we’re only talking about Kira and Amuros first seasons) and his actual girlfriend in Flay, along with learning his entire life was a lie. I also think Amuro is a better character than Kira, but calling Kira a Gary stu for being a tech wiz (him surviving that explosion was bs and they could have done it better) but Amuro isnt is next level glazing. For the most part in MS battles, Kira in the strike and Amuro in The Rx-78 were practically untouchable, with Rx-78 punching WAY above its weight class at the end of the oyw and toughing it out. Hell for the most Part Kira was mentally fucked up for a good chunk of seed too.

As for the characters, never go full emo

Soy fans defending Gundam Seed.

1:50 Is this really worse than Mobile Suit Gundam-San and SD Gundam? Come to think of it, that just may be, if one considers the standards of the sub-genres that each is part of then measures the quality of each show within them. I might have to re-watch a few episodes just to be sure (not that I was able to make it through many the first time around nor do I remember much of it).

I just finished watching Seed for the first time about an hour before stumbling across this video, and while i see where it's coming from, some of these issues i noticed while watch, others were obvious in retrospect, i still found it to be fine, average, but fine, even if Rau le Creuset was an insult to my intelligence. But nothing, and i mean nothing, will convince me that Seed is worse than Turn A or Victory, or hell, the original series. It doesn't matter how good your story is if my eyes and ears are bleeding from the sheer repungnace of it's visuals, sound design and voice acting.

I enjoyed Gundam Seed

Next, "IBO was terrible and so was 00." Might as well say all the shows making Sunrise and Bandai gobs of money are bad :D

I never watched older gundam anime maybe that's why I like seed/destiny so much. I don't care for 00 and I've only seen odd episodes of Wing. Seed/Destiny and Wing mech designs are my favorite. The only thing I don't like about Seed/Destiny is Shin.

Without gundam seed... i dont know what will happen to the gundam series... Gundam seed revolutionize the series... i dont know what you are taking about???

Gundam SEED made me hate anime, I spent a decade missing out on such great anime cause seeing anime reminded me of Gundam SEED. Then i saw Gundam 79, the depth, the weight, just the design of the show was amazing. Made me realize how bad Gundam 79 was

Gundam seed is the worst gundam series of all time next to g-gundam and victory gundam. Gundam seed is a failure in the world.

Cross Ange = Gundam SEED Lesbian Edition

I understand that SEED has it's problems, whether it be some bad dialogue, or recycled animation. But honestly, I don't see why there's overall such a negative view of it. Maybe it's rose-tinted nostalgia glasses? It's not the best Gundam series ever, I'll admit, but damn I just don't think it's as bad as a lot of people say.

Destiny is way worse lol

This may be heresy, but I remember my first impressions of Amuro came off almost exactly the same as what Micah says about Kira here- a whiny, emo, wunderkind genius who gets an infinite supply of plot armor (IE, the RX-78). He's never in any danger, every monster of the week is defeated without any doubt of the outcome, in his hands the Gundam is unbeatable and indestructible. The One-Year-War plotline is compelling not because of Amuro, but in spite of Amuro.

8:41 read Gundam seed astray, lowe basically finds him unconscious in the strike cockpit within a blast shield.

Good joke but seed was a success great story good characters both friend and foe. Awesome suits and animations and top tier music va and design cant ask for more but I respect your opinion

Seed is okay, it is not ur cup of tea but for younger audience. Sometimes, u just don't want all the baggage from UC.