The Actress Trope | How We See Women

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3 жыл бұрын

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There are a lot of movies and shows about, well, movies and shows. Through sitcoms like Schitt's Creek and 30 Rock, and films like Notting Hill and Marriage Story, many stories specifically highlight the figure of the actress. But this frequently isn’t that flattering of a portrait. Here’s our Take on the Actress Trope -- a reflection of how society views women, and our deep-rooted anxieties around them.
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@thetake
@thetake 3 жыл бұрын
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@emelliott4145
@emelliott4145 3 жыл бұрын
Really? A weight-loss sponsor? Oof.
@camilleravencraft2326
@camilleravencraft2326 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a take on the damsel in the distress trope or the victim trope in general (especially how that word's been demonized and mocked or pitted against the survivor)
@emmyjorgeguineve7033
@emmyjorgeguineve7033 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Movie stars Real actresses (talented Ones) Have a life once the They say "That's a Wrap" .
@emmyjorgeguineve7033
@emmyjorgeguineve7033 3 жыл бұрын
"Fear Female aging"? Anyone see Nicholson lately?.......
@SarahSchimidt
@SarahSchimidt 3 жыл бұрын
Reflecting about patriarchal expectations for women and promoting diet culture? WOW...
@dipannitasarah5521
@dipannitasarah5521 3 жыл бұрын
“Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid.” - Hedy Lamarr, an absolute queen
@stupidass69420
@stupidass69420 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes Hedy! She will forever be in my top five historical people
@nadg866
@nadg866 3 жыл бұрын
and an absolute genius
@peggy7744
@peggy7744 3 жыл бұрын
Hedley, Hedley! Oh, wait - you were right.
@davidalves31057
@davidalves31057 3 жыл бұрын
The Inventor of Wi-fi!!!
@ViiOlet810
@ViiOlet810 3 жыл бұрын
"...and Keanu Reeves-like eternal youth" 😂😂😂 that was a hilarious way to wrap it up.
@supersmilesification
@supersmilesification 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to add...and Paul Rudd! Like seriously, how do they do it?!
@davidalves31057
@davidalves31057 3 жыл бұрын
@@supersmilesification Them and Gwen Stefani!
@Crimson28
@Crimson28 3 жыл бұрын
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye.” - Miss Piggy
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
That's true, it's a shame that many actors' careers rely on their appearance, and once they age, they become less relevant, no matter how talented they were before.
@citlaliargueta3306
@citlaliargueta3306 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq that is 😞 sad 😢
@JuriAmari
@JuriAmari 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq thankfully a lot of our elder stars are starting to change that trend!
@yolandacarroll558
@yolandacarroll558 3 жыл бұрын
A Miss Piggy quote? Awesome. 😃
@emilysanchez4584
@emilysanchez4584 3 жыл бұрын
The "Tortured Artist" would be a good trope.
@dobtoronto
@dobtoronto 3 жыл бұрын
La La Land's Mia was in this video, and for your idea we'd see Sebastian
@gianastrology
@gianastrology 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please!!!
@rickywilcoxson6933
@rickywilcoxson6933 3 жыл бұрын
Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur & Amy Winehouse anyone ???
@heywhat6676
@heywhat6676 3 жыл бұрын
Also how all they terrible things they do are excused because "they were just in a bad place' or they were mentally ill or something
@penelopeb9151
@penelopeb9151 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I want them to talk about how it can be damaging too. For example it can romanticize suicide. Like the story of the poet Thomas Chatterton alway reminds me of dead poets society and I think that it’s a story that’s retold a lot in literature and movies in the context of a young and unsupported “Tortured Artist”
@konraddygudaj257
@konraddygudaj257 3 жыл бұрын
"I think most of us are raised with preconceived notions of the choices we're supposed to make. We waste so much time making decisions based on someone else's idea of our happiness - what will make you a good citizen or a good wife or daughter or actress. Nobody says, 'Just be happy - go be a cobbler or go live with goats.'' Sandra Bullock
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely! We spend so long trying to make OTHERS happy or proud, that we neglect our own needs. This might be valid in the case of child actors and pushy stage parents.
@carolinarossi3504
@carolinarossi3504 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! You should do a “Drug Addict Trope” so many examples: Jesse from Breaking Bad, Klaus from The Umbrella Academy, Nicky from Orange is the New Black and it goes on
@ich2OO
@ich2OO 3 жыл бұрын
Thats such a good Idea!!
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I would like this! Good idea.
@leaalajbeg6349
@leaalajbeg6349 3 жыл бұрын
+
@tiffanytownsend1706
@tiffanytownsend1706 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I would also like to see them expand on how drug addict portrayals in film often differ depending on the race of the characters and/or filmmakers.
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanytownsend1706 Are you thinking that white drug addicts are treated with more sympathy in films? For example how the audience was shocked when Walt watched Jane OD, but movies of black drug use, the audience may think she is a crack ho?
@tiffanypersaud3518
@tiffanypersaud3518 3 жыл бұрын
“A symbol of obedience.” Yeouch. I’m so glad that there are more women in the profession who are willing to speak up, not only in acting, but in producing, directing, writing, and they’re allowed to make mistakes.
@obsessivefangirl5055
@obsessivefangirl5055 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the justified cheating trope! Where cheating on perfectly decent partners is seen as ok and justified and even romanticized just because they're not the one the protagonist is attracted to or just because they're not interesting or smart enough, etc. A good example would be the notebook! Edit: they could also cover the cases where cheating is seen as justified. Where the protagonist cheats but its considered ok because their partner is mentally, physically abusive or cheated on them first! E.g. titanic
@flowergirl5962
@flowergirl5962 3 жыл бұрын
Devil wears prada would be a good example too!
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 3 жыл бұрын
@@flowergirl5962 Would it? Doesn't her boyfriend break up with her before she sleeps with the other guy?
@flowergirl5962
@flowergirl5962 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylor_green_9 well sure but there was still emotional cheating or an affair
@pauielicious4433
@pauielicious4433 3 жыл бұрын
and Me Before You!!!
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 3 жыл бұрын
@@flowergirl5962 Huh, maybe I need to watch it again
@kristenmosquera6803
@kristenmosquera6803 3 жыл бұрын
I think I have a problem. These video are so addictive 😫
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Seconded, I could spend hours watching their videos on repeat!
@umidk2667
@umidk2667 3 жыл бұрын
How?
@laneythelame
@laneythelame 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@aaronrichards3246
@aaronrichards3246 3 жыл бұрын
They’re shit videos with no research done on them
@moumidas2116
@moumidas2116 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronrichards3246 Why so grumpy, bro? These videos are fun. If you like more research, there are amazing channels for those as well, no?
@JesterSqueak
@JesterSqueak 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing an episode on how teachers are portrayed? I am in education and I've noticed a lot oof people have a skewed view of the profession, largely because of film and tv
@irisbutterfield5340
@irisbutterfield5340 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’ve only ever seen teachers in movies as jerks and creeps, or incredibly devoted to students.
@JesterSqueak
@JesterSqueak 3 жыл бұрын
@@irisbutterfield5340 That and the white savior archetype, which they've touched on before.
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 3 жыл бұрын
Like how a lot of teachers in shows and movies turn into sexual predators. It feels like Hollywood normalizes it like it's a common, normal, and even good thing. It's gross and weird.
@tatioliveira8598
@tatioliveira8598 3 жыл бұрын
There's always the "hero" teacher, the one who never complain about low salary, awful schools or lack of minimal infrastructure because teaching is their "call" and all those "little" (but absolutely necessary!) thing would never refrain them from such a heroic work....
@irisbutterfield5340
@irisbutterfield5340 3 жыл бұрын
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 it is sadly common enough for it to be talked about but media never shows it in the right way. My high school had some creepy teachers and student realize what is going on but I don’t think anyone ever said anything because thats just how it was. I can’t tell u how many girls in my classes would talk about teachers looking down their shirts or hovering over their desks. Hollywood loves to romanticize them and the students pain.
@savvy3tv632
@savvy3tv632 3 жыл бұрын
“The Actress trope” is really damaging to young girls who dream of being in the big screen, or on Broadway. It takes dreams that these kids have, and it frames them in a negative light. One of my biggest dreams is to be on Broadway, and I feel like I can’t tell anyone because I don’t want to appear vain, stupid, or shallow. I often lie about my dreams, and I don’t tell many people about them because they immediately stereotype me into this role that I never wanted to play. I am very intelligent, and it feels like when I tell people I want to be an actress on Broadway, their expectations of what I can do go down by 90%, and they just see me as this dumb, shallow, and self absorbed girl. I talked to my parents about this, and they have been super supportive about my dreams, and they often tell me about many actresses that went to Ivy Leagues and are smart to make me feel better. The truth is, acting requires a lot of intelligence. You can’t just be pretty. You have to study the source material, build your character, and then constantly put yourself in that character shoes and feel their emotions. It’s honestly like constantly studying books for English class, and then essays on character development. But it’s super rewarding in the end. All I am saying is that acting is hard work, and it can be less than glamorous at times, but if you really love it, it’s worth it. I’m not trying to discourage dreams of acting, I’m just saying that it’s hard work.
@pn7134
@pn7134 3 жыл бұрын
Pls make a video on childfree women and their portrayal in the media. Especially compared to mothers
@Snowshowslow
@Snowshowslow 3 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting :)
@kyleefaren3075
@kyleefaren3075 3 жыл бұрын
Second this
@sarahcrockett4508
@sarahcrockett4508 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! Childfree women are definitely portrayed...a certain way
@Otherwise88
@Otherwise88 3 жыл бұрын
Off the tip of my head I feel like they arent portrayed much. If we dont count children or trophy types who get with the guy in the end and that's the conclusion then there arent many types of non moms left. Sure theres your black widow and Harry Potter professors but I feel like childfree women are super young kids and trophies who are expected to have kids with the hero one day.
@sarahcrockett4508
@sarahcrockett4508 3 жыл бұрын
@@Otherwise88 childfree women are portrayed as sadistic child haters, immature, cold, heartless, married to their careers, way to devoted to their pets, broken, bitter, and in desperate need of fixing by sacred penis. The video could do a lot of exploring those stereotypes and truths as the number of willfully childfree women are on the rise. By the way a trophy woman who may someday have kids with the hero is not truly childfree.
@ElleGur
@ElleGur 3 жыл бұрын
meryl streep is a perfect counterexample of a woman who held on to fame even with age. Why? cuz she's an amazing actress.
@wel.3098
@wel.3098 3 жыл бұрын
I think in the recent years, the "fading by the age" actress isn't really a phenomenon that crushing the industry as it used to. I mean there are lots of great (what we called) "aging" actress who are still working and even being the lead in movies/series. Look at Olivia Colman, her acting career even boost up (and have won an Oscar) on her mid 40s Another actresses that still shines are Glenn Close, Michelle Pfeiffer, Julianne Moore, Ellen Burstyn, Jessica Lange, Maggie Smith, Judi Dench, Cate Blanchett, Angela Bassett (she's not even aging i think) and there's quite many more I'd say
@archer1949
@archer1949 3 жыл бұрын
@@wel.3098 Frances McDormand.
@yolandacarroll558
@yolandacarroll558 3 жыл бұрын
@@wel.3098 Angela Bassett is chillin' right next to Keanu Reeves sipping that eternal youth potion. 😊
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 3 жыл бұрын
@@wel.3098 Charlize Theron ❤️
@caitlin329
@caitlin329 3 жыл бұрын
It's more the types of roles they get. There's the Graham Norton clip where they talk about how Meryl Streep was offered 3 witch roles the year she turned 40, and how that says something about how Hollywood views women turning 40. She had to actively avoid it for a while to avoid being typecast as those kinds of roles.
@veronicaaccouche1478
@veronicaaccouche1478 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the 'disabled girl woman trope'? It seems that they are seen as a combination of waste of anyone's time, a saint and or stupid. It's frustrating as being a person with a disability is not just the usual wheelchair or the acceptable she's blind everything else works. There's so much more.
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Disabilities in media is one of the few topic that The Take hasn’t covered.
@stupidass69420
@stupidass69420 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes yes!
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that video. This topic is very dear to my heart
@fangirl365
@fangirl365 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting to see it from The Take. But until then, Jessica Killgren-Fozard has a disability in media series 👍🏻
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 3 жыл бұрын
@@fangirl365 I know, I love her videos, but since The Take has such a big platform, it would be nice if they did videos on disabilities too.
@monicaammerman9218
@monicaammerman9218 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about Eastern Europeans/people from former soviet bloc countries. Their representations are always so reductive and often offensive (the men are hairy and bumbling, the women are mail-order brides, everyone is humorless) and I think it's tied to western anti-communist propaganda. Love your work!
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Please cover the "Derailing Love Interest" trope, where the Romantic False Lead suddenly becomes nasty, as a means to shoehorn the main couple together. Bonus points if they were previously nice beforehand.
@jessicayoung3656
@jessicayoung3656 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Jacob from Twilight?
@JuriAmari
@JuriAmari 3 жыл бұрын
That dude from the Devil Wears Prada?
@the-ma-an
@the-ma-an 3 жыл бұрын
Raoul in Love Never Dies (sequel to Phantom of the Opera)
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
Natasha Glennville and the Japanese ex Mrs Darcy
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 жыл бұрын
"Bonus points if they were previously nice beforehand" probably cuz they were like possibly putting on an act/facade or something maybe I don't necessarily mean that like some gospel absolute truth or whatever just simply perhaps some eh idk highly likely possibility or something and "ShOeHoRn the main couple together" my ass it's as if you're making it seem as if the main couple apparently are automatically a bunch of antagonists/villains or something
@giulianoaaronfrancoynsfran4858
@giulianoaaronfrancoynsfran4858 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the mama bear trope? i think is interesting because how it is something that can be describe as femenine and masculine at the same time
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! I think that they should also cover the Papa Wolf trope, which is the Male equivalent, and extremely protective towards their cubs!
@despinasgarden.4100
@despinasgarden.4100 3 жыл бұрын
@Michael Kim the woman literally killed Bellatrix because she wanted to kill her daughter and said "not my daughter you bitch!" I think she does.
@SelinaEichhorn
@SelinaEichhorn 3 жыл бұрын
I met and worked with many starting out actresses and actors and I realized that the actresses were way more aware and woke of the industry while the actors were the naive ones. Also, so many actresses have children and a great career.
@lilil9752
@lilil9752 3 жыл бұрын
I saw "The actress" and Emma Stone and i inmediately thought of that SNL skit where Emma plays an actress that gets too much into her role: the wife whose husband cheats on ,in a gay porn
@SlayerNinaFriki
@SlayerNinaFriki 3 жыл бұрын
That skit was awesome, the wife was an interesting, relatable character and you understand why Emma is an Oscar winner XD
@blackguyofthesouth2161
@blackguyofthesouth2161 3 жыл бұрын
That was hilarious especially when paired with Becks deadpan and calmness.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
An ‘actress’ is ‘crazy’? As if no actor in the history of the world wasn’t messed up.
@rhubarbbikini3794
@rhubarbbikini3794 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody’s messed up in some way. In their own way
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhubarbbikini3794 True dat.
@Staubkorn
@Staubkorn 3 жыл бұрын
"That woman...is a woman!!" ☠️😅
@cormano64
@cormano64 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT!? NO!!!
@quietstorm7684
@quietstorm7684 3 жыл бұрын
And...
@gitlashooster2179
@gitlashooster2179 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
“Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my close up.” Iconic. Simply Iconic.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
Totally, one of the most memorable closing lines in cinematic history! 😍
@bhuvanaprakash3029
@bhuvanaprakash3029 3 жыл бұрын
Heyyy, I find you everywhere! TISS, Sucharita, and now The Take😂
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhuvanaprakash3029 It’s so hard being famous. I get recognised everywhere lol
@bhuvanaprakash3029
@bhuvanaprakash3029 3 жыл бұрын
@@PokhrajRoy. Must be tough man. Hope the paparazzi leave you alone...
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhuvanaprakash3029 Let them get over Taimur first lol
@SlayerNinaFriki
@SlayerNinaFriki 3 жыл бұрын
I missed Sharpay Evans here, she is the actress committed to the role but the role was stolen by some naive newcomer that isn't invested in it
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 жыл бұрын
BUT Nobody ever really tried to "steal" anything from her?! if anything SHE basically was the one who kinda of tried to steal something or rather SOMEONE from somebody else and I guess maybe it kinda of backfired on/at her or something
@AveryTalksAboutStuff
@AveryTalksAboutStuff 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel bad because actors work way harder than they ever get credit for.
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, acting is an extremely erratic profession, and sadly, not all actors are able to have the successful career they desire.
@mankytoes
@mankytoes 3 жыл бұрын
They probably get more credit for their work than almost any other profession... certainly within film.
@jessiromero4967
@jessiromero4967 Жыл бұрын
Singers get worshipped way more
@licanraymartinez5865
@licanraymartinez5865 3 жыл бұрын
I love the conversation between Sussannah and Debra by the end of the video. A great way to see the compromise that The Take have with the topic they touch in every video
@JessCsBooks
@JessCsBooks 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite movies about actresses is Stage Door (1937) with Lucille Ball, Ginger Rogers, and Katherine Hepburn. I love how it captures the competitive nature in the industry, talented ingenues getting overlooked in favor of women who aren't talented but have the connections. It's a sad film, but a very good one.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
‘Sunset Boulevard’ was just genius.
@sircharlesmormont9300
@sircharlesmormont9300 3 жыл бұрын
As a woman in her late 30s, I feel this so hard. I really feel like I've got an expiration date, now somewhere in my past, that limits my opportunities in life in so many ways - and like, no matter what I do, my looks always have and always will define me.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
It’s disturbing to see in Mainstream Hindi Cinema how the Hindi Film Actress has been ‘othered’ by assuming she’s dumb and that’s what a lot of people think of them. But if you learn about them, they’re interesting, intelligent and fun people.
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester 3 жыл бұрын
Bollywood is a shithole and most actresses sell their bodies. What do u expect?
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthWinchester You’re half right. It’s not always smooth sailing but you shouldn’t be reductive and say “sell their bodies”. Not at this point in time.
@anikakulkarni4239
@anikakulkarni4239 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthWinchester Mainstream Bollywood isn't that great but the more niche movies are way better. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@Despair254
@Despair254 3 жыл бұрын
Also when was the last time we saw big superstars paired up with women of their age ? 50 years old male actors paired with 20 years old young actresses(mostly debutants) in mainstream movies, it needs to change. Thank god OTT exists but it's also being censored because of so called 'Sanskars' or to preserve 'indian culture'
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Despair254 I agree with that but we need to back artists and not mercenaries. It’s high time that the industry realises this.
@prairiebutch
@prairiebutch 3 жыл бұрын
would love to see a trope video on the "tortured artist", especially "the writer"!
@laslooo
@laslooo 3 жыл бұрын
I love this new personal commentary section at the end! I would love a whole episode of this type of commentary. But please keep adding it to the end as well!
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do The Ingenue as a trope? I see Bridget Jones as a deconstructed Ingenue and Bombshell (face and personality of former, body and sensuality of latter). Also the Wallflower with a focus on WFs of color, the "All Grown Up and Beautiful" trope, Asian Women in media, and the slow burn of curvy bodies and representation in Hollywood
@trinaq
@trinaq 3 жыл бұрын
I love these suggestions! Betty Boop could also be an excellent example of an Ingenue, since she doesn't realize how attractive she is to those around her!
@WavesOfLight4
@WavesOfLight4 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Would love this too
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq "You don't know you're beautiful, oh oh, that's why you're beautiful" describes the Ingenue to a T
@_Sakidora_
@_Sakidora_ 2 жыл бұрын
You really are obsessed with Bridget Jones, aren't you?
@andreatorrealba7639
@andreatorrealba7639 3 жыл бұрын
I think that a big part of the fear at aging of real life actresses has a lot to do with the industry itself. It's so hard to find a good piece of media with complex well rounded senior women's. I mean, according to Hollywood women over 50 are etiher crapy hollow villains or crapy nurturing mother figures. I'd be terrified too.
@meropedurwood5514
@meropedurwood5514 3 жыл бұрын
Posted 20 seconds ago. Never been this early, I think. Cannot wait to see what your guys take is on this trope
@manasvideore47
@manasvideore47 3 жыл бұрын
read it now!
@carlislefillat532
@carlislefillat532 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I would love to see a video about the "Sensitive male artist working on one last piece of art to change the world" Trope. It's surprisingly common, especially in musicals with men writing *the song*
@GeorgeGlass298
@GeorgeGlass298 3 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed you didn't have the names of the movies that you were showing scenes of this time. There's a lot of them in there I would love to watch. What's the one with Jessica Lange called?
@ihavenomouthandimustnya
@ihavenomouthandimustnya 3 жыл бұрын
Feud. It is a TV show
@GeorgeGlass298
@GeorgeGlass298 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihavenomouthandimustnya thank you!
@YaleStewartArt
@YaleStewartArt 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to continue voicing my support for the post-video discussion. I'm really loving this new addition and hope it continues!
@JuriAmari
@JuriAmari 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video analyzing various film tests and their pros & cons (like the Bechdel Test, the DuVernay Test, and the Mako Mori Test)
@optigana
@optigana 3 жыл бұрын
I love the reviews you girls are doing at the end of every video 💗
@rubytuesdayphoenix
@rubytuesdayphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Every day that I see there's a new video from you guys is like Christmas- carry on being awesome!
@sallycinammon1478
@sallycinammon1478 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis of toxic friendships in trainspotting?
@brittf1847
@brittf1847 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the an analysis of the Bechdel test :O
@Tinkerbe11
@Tinkerbe11 3 жыл бұрын
There might be some truth about having to chose between being an actress and a mother. I'm from Germany, and a few days ago an actor died, who himself was the son of another actor - a huge star from the silent movie era up to the 1950. And in the obituaries this week the son was quoted as saying: "It was such a privilege to have this great actor as a father. But the price I paid for this was that I never really had a father. He was never at home"
@deborahc4111
@deborahc4111 3 жыл бұрын
while this is true, I think this phenomenon is overemphasized in female actors. You rarely see movies showing male actors neglecting their children or abandoning their 'family roles'. I feel like this is still misogynistic in implying that women should not be career-focused.
@SicYennefer
@SicYennefer 3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahc4111 you're totally right, it's pure misogyny. Mom shaming is a part of it
@disneythequeen
@disneythequeen 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an actress and this video really hit home for me
@KaylaNoelle1
@KaylaNoelle1 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even like being called an actress, an actor is an actor, it’s gender neutral! It’s funny how teens and 20’s are the ideal of a female screen actress but on stage it’s 30’s. Good luck finding a stage role with a decent amount of lines if you are under 30! Or longer if you look young. 🤪 It’s so awful because at 25 I’m running out of time to start screen acting but having to play literal children on stage. Like 11-15 year olds. There’s no winning!! It feels like I’ll go straight from playing kids to playing grannies sometimes. I just want to engage in the art-form I love so much, that’s it.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
Konkona Sen Sharma in ‘Luck By Chance’ is a great example of the deconstruction of ‘The Ingenue’/Blank Slate Category.
@KerryWano76
@KerryWano76 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the format with discussion at the ends!
@Nova_the_starcatcher
@Nova_the_starcatcher 3 жыл бұрын
you guys do such great work! thank you!
@beatrizmaldonadovargas4659
@beatrizmaldonadovargas4659 3 жыл бұрын
My favourites are Betty and Rita from Mulholland Drive, the dark side of showbiz and all the suspense about that film gets me goosebumps
@kevinbergin9971
@kevinbergin9971 3 жыл бұрын
Is it fair to say that Norma Jean Baker created Marilyn Monroe the "sexpot" (7:04) in the same manner that Marion Michael Morrison created John Wayne the "über-male" or Archie Leach created Cary Grant the "coolest guy in the room"?
@manisham.b5483
@manisham.b5483 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
I’m loving the Post-Credit Scenes.
@hilz9274
@hilz9274 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys analyse the" best friend of the protagonist, who's always at their house, mostly for food" trope. We also see a comedic effect in him/her being repeatedly kicked out. Examples include Hakeem from Moesha and Will's friend in the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air I find it interesting why the shows rarely, if at all delve into the reason why, if that makes sense
@johannasegard737
@johannasegard737 3 жыл бұрын
I quite like the 2 min reflexions at the end, good idea. Keep up the good work, you're the best!
@danilobucker
@danilobucker 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good!
@BuBs1970G
@BuBs1970G 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I recommend it to my film teacher.
@megamoviez
@megamoviez 3 жыл бұрын
I was super excited when I saw Sarah Goldberg as she was the best performance general of 2019 and then I became severely depressed knowing we still don’t have Barry Season 3
@maxscene7
@maxscene7 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast we'll have like atleast up to 4 seasons! The scripts been written apparently 🤤
@marcoquirozreyes9834
@marcoquirozreyes9834 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see your take on the "Queer Parent" trope
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
I loved ‘Notting Hill’ as a Meta Film on Actresses. Julia Roberts is awesome!
@teesh871
@teesh871 3 жыл бұрын
Your video made me cry. I act all the time in my job. I'm a nurse. You put a wall up between yourself and too much real emotion because all of would probably kill you. But at the same time, you have to be there for your patients and your real emotion in your work is what makes you help them. To remember who you are there for and to help you learn. But at the same time...your body and your age...even though it is making you a better nurse because your intuition gets better and your knowledge base increases and actually connects with it...your body starts failing. Especially if you have children and your shifts are all over the place. You have to be kind but assertive. Jaded enough to look after yourself but still kind when you need to be....and then imagine working and relying on a bunch of people with these same problems. Not trying to be woe is me...I am very lucky and thus is the profession I chose....but your video helped.
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I've been curious to try acting myself. The idea of putting on a character to reveal their innards to the world. To push forward our perception and understanding of the human experience. I don't know if I'd be any good at it. But I'm curious. Thank you for creating this content. Seeing an examination of this idea from this perspective is so interesting to me. How film and mass media engage with our culture's depiction and understanding of femininity is such an in-depth and nuanced a thing, isn't it???
@doctordl7757
@doctordl7757 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Takedom 👋 we are here for another troupe, I love these things!
@veronicaandvanessa
@veronicaandvanessa 3 жыл бұрын
I would love you to explore the writer trope! Or maybe just people with an English related career and how they are written for film and tv.
@unouni2548
@unouni2548 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the conversation at the end! Although I think the scripted part is, of course, well-researched and very informative; I enjoy a little conversation that looks more organic 😁
@giancarlojacobs9982
@giancarlojacobs9982 3 жыл бұрын
The irony of the whole "actresses are insane" mentality meanwhile Tom Cruise is still being invested in by Hollywood.......
@lucioagelvis2134
@lucioagelvis2134 3 жыл бұрын
For the general World Wide audience He is Tom Cruise and most are not aware of controversies/criticism he receives. They simple want action and escapism. Adam Driver, Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves are seen as non political. They don't open their mouth blabbering non sense like many other actors. Look at Tom Hanks expressions during Ricky Gervais Golden Globes ceremony.
@giancarlojacobs9982
@giancarlojacobs9982 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucioagelvis2134 P.S. Literally everything Tom Cruise says is him blabbering nonsense. What sane person shames a mother (Brook Shields) for having postpartum depression?
@lucioagelvis2134
@lucioagelvis2134 3 жыл бұрын
@@giancarlojacobs9982 I agree, but he hasn't added anything for 15 years. Worldwide audiences are unaware of the Brooke Shields incident. Producers as you all know mostly see profits. Marketability. People like the Chinese are in your face non PC.
@nope_no_nunya.
@nope_no_nunya. 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaaa! GIRL!
@giancarlojacobs9982
@giancarlojacobs9982 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucioagelvis2134 The information is/ has been there. It's only due to his social advantages that they ignore signs of mental decline in himself, Mel Gibson and other men like them.
@louisenielsen928
@louisenielsen928 3 жыл бұрын
Please consider Teacher Trope next. It seems like you can only either be a saint or a devil.
@sharonyang3927
@sharonyang3927 3 жыл бұрын
18:40 Punintended or not, I really appreciated that
@ayo2015
@ayo2015 3 жыл бұрын
The movie perfect blue by Satoshi Kon explores this trope really well
@area51pictures
@area51pictures Жыл бұрын
This is BRILLIANT. Thank you.
@johnyzero2000
@johnyzero2000 3 жыл бұрын
Yet there are actresses over 50 actresses who still have thriving careers, Maggie Smith, Judi Dench, Vanessa Redgrave, Sissy Spacek, Ellen Burstyn, Sigourney Weaver, yet these ladies have actual talent to maintain a long career.
@rashidapittman8513
@rashidapittman8513 Жыл бұрын
That may be somewhat true but they still aren’t given the best parts compared to younger counterparts like Emma stone and Scarlett’s Johansson etc… they also rarely appear in movies as much as they use to. So there’s still a long way to go.
@ArtofMaximus
@ArtofMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
I dig the end roundtable discussion! Nice to see your faces :) It would be even better w/good audio/lighting!
@AMFREE-yk2yl
@AMFREE-yk2yl 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the "Method Actor Who Goes Too Far" Trope
@XanderVJ
@XanderVJ 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that something that happens more in real life than in fiction?
@peaceflowerstudios6833
@peaceflowerstudios6833 3 жыл бұрын
@@XanderVJ I mean, just look at some messed up stuff Jared Leto has done, for example..
@XanderVJ
@XanderVJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@peaceflowerstudios6833 Again, that's real life, not fiction.
@combatdoc
@combatdoc 3 жыл бұрын
I always say, "Oh look they aren't simply disembodied voices." Keep killing it! My MFA thanks you.
@twjohnsun
@twjohnsun 3 жыл бұрын
i love the after convos!
@LightBluePoemHZ
@LightBluePoemHZ 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad I decided to use waterproof eyeliner today.
@witchplease9695
@witchplease9695 3 жыл бұрын
Since y’all are doing character-career tropes as well, can we get a Tortured Artist or The Writer trope?
@analuizamariano3939
@analuizamariano3939 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm one of the first people to watch and enjoy this video.❤️✨
@angelagarcia7093
@angelagarcia7093 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm tired of this trope, I don't want to see actresses playing actresses having a hard time becoming actresses. And I'm an actress! I want to see them playing other people outside of their own job.
@alexisatkinson7420
@alexisatkinson7420 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard out here to be an actress. You have to love it or you won't survive it. I say that from firsthand experience. You don't last or you'll need frequent space to survive such an out of your control career. It can hurt you bad to live life as others for others through other's eyes & visions. The business & bureaucracy alone can take you out some days. But when you love it... and you can see yourself blossom in that love... man, there's nothing like it... ❤️
@girlonfire8405
@girlonfire8405 3 жыл бұрын
I needed to see this
@vennanigans
@vennanigans 3 жыл бұрын
@TheTake Is there a video about how men crossing dressing as women is "Silly Adventures Time!" And how women crossdressing as men is "time to get a serious education and war medal"?
@motorcitymangababe
@motorcitymangababe 2 жыл бұрын
And yet both get hijacked by romance too!
@DawnSkyStudios
@DawnSkyStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Marriage and family often interfere with women's creativity due to commitment, unpaid workload, and social expectations of being a "good" housewife. That a lot of actresses, writers, eco-activists, managers, and other busy women weren't included mothers is fairly true in the arts and the media. Russian sculpturist Anna Golubkina said: "The art of tied hands does not like. You have to come to him with free hands ... Art is a feat, and here you have to forget everything, give everything".
@gleekgreen13
@gleekgreen13 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video essay on Grey’s Anatomy! Like “A Masterclass in being Human”
@alexandrospatsikos512
@alexandrospatsikos512 3 жыл бұрын
13:50 "The Comeback" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love this show
@kendallstark4302
@kendallstark4302 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the less-exaggerated voiceover in this video. Could you possibly have the other voiceovers be more like this one? Thank you 💖
@MoDFTBA
@MoDFTBA 3 жыл бұрын
It would be really nice if you put link to the IMDB page of the movies you mention
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@kickitlikekirra
@kickitlikekirra 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the unscripted dialogue at the end!
@alexisatkinson7420
@alexisatkinson7420 3 жыл бұрын
Great after credit discussion :)
@mhernandez8290
@mhernandez8290 2 жыл бұрын
Love the mention of Sally from Barry! Can you please make a video on Barry ?
@saanasalonen8684
@saanasalonen8684 3 жыл бұрын
im on a the take binge... tastes good though :)
@britneyisallyouneedtoknow2406
@britneyisallyouneedtoknow2406 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that clip from 30 rock made me want to check out that show.
@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk
@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk 3 жыл бұрын
30 Rock is amazing!! If you are looking for comedies plz also check out Arrested Develooment. It is a cult classic with very subtle humor.
@rosariocorona4704
@rosariocorona4704 3 жыл бұрын
I already know this is going to be fantastic
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy that Mainstream Hindi Cinema has some brave women who do some amazing work well into their 40s and 50s.
@ojuskhanolkar7146
@ojuskhanolkar7146 3 жыл бұрын
Haha not really though. Madhuri, Juhi, and Kajol continue to do films, but not with the same success as SRK, Hrithik Roshan etc. Their age poses a fake “sell-ability” problem
@JuriAmari
@JuriAmari 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. But Bollywood and Hollywood (and let’s face it - the majority of professions) has a problem with nepotism. We rarely get people who don’t have a familial foot in the door make it big in the industry. Somebody could have the training/experience and never make it in simply because they’re not related to a celeb whether distantly or directly.
@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk
@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk 3 жыл бұрын
@@ojuskhanolkar7146 Honestly people still go to watch a movie because it has Madhuri, Juhi or Kajol in it. In Hollywood though only Meryl Streep sells her movies because she is in it. Come to think of it even Shabana Azmi can still sell movies in India. And may I point out, Meryl Streep is by no standards your typical actress. We will never see a Meryl Streep again not because she is a very good actress, there very good actresses in every generation, but because Meryl Streep has been nominated for / more Oscars than any other actress OR male actor alive or dead!! She the most Oscar nominated / won person ever in the history of the world. It is extremely unlikely that any one would be able to come anywhere near her accomplishments. So let's not use Meryl Streep as an example of how Hollywood is fairer to its leading ladies.
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? Bollywood is a cesspool.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFourthWinchester It is but change is slow. Seeing some semblance of a change is better than no change at all. I know where you’re coming from. I do accept your point.
@ashleightompkins3200
@ashleightompkins3200 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on the Religious Zealot, most of which being women.
@EllenTift
@EllenTift 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please either add the title of the movie snippets when you show them or provide that info in the video description? Quite often I don't know what the snippet is from and don't recognize the actor so I can't look it up on imdb. Thank you. Love your videos.
@AMFREE-yk2yl
@AMFREE-yk2yl 3 жыл бұрын
The roaring "WOOOOO" i made seeing "Staged" being acknowledged.
@SR-mv2mf
@SR-mv2mf 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@coltonkissock7130
@coltonkissock7130 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! You should do one about the writer.
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