The ACTUAL Best Nen Category for Combat - Hunter x Hunter

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The Overthinker

The Overthinker

3 ай бұрын

In this video I do a take-down of my own previously held opinions and argue as to why Emission should supplant Transmutation as the best fighting-attuned category. Where do you stand on the topic?
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@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Yo, just now noticed, but seems like all of my added text were moved a bit further up the video than they were supposed to be. Probably because I added the Garrosh scene at the beginning of the vid at the very end of the editing process and forgot to properly move the text along the editing line. Sorry if that causes any confusion.
@guilhermesilva-xg7gy
@guilhermesilva-xg7gy 3 ай бұрын
To undertand Emission you have to think of it as Projection. Project your aura to blast something, projects your body throght space, project your vision to remote viewing, the possibilities are infinite.
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
I've been having similar thoughts recently, but you've articulated it excellently. With this, we could even explain Palm's notoriously non-Enhancement-based ability, Wink Blue.
@HiddenOcelot
@HiddenOcelot Ай бұрын
Perfectly said, I agree with the view of it as not "emitting" but actually "projecting" like moving something somewhere, whatever it may be.
@normal6483
@normal6483 3 ай бұрын
If Emission and Transmutation are competing for the top slot, then doesn't that make Enhancement the top category purely for its ease of access to the two, while also being a necessity for combat? Most enhancers we've seen aren't very creative with it, but if they were I think we'd see a lot of excellent powers. Transmuting and then emitting your aura seems like a top tier combo, after all, especially if you're also excellent in close-quarters combat.
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
That is a fantastic point. Here are my thoughts: There isn't too much merit in combining Emission with Transmutation if you're an Enhancer. Instead of Transmuting your aura into.... something and then tossing at the opponent (e.g. what someone like Silva does with his orbs, though that ability seems a lot more suited for a Transmuter than an Emitter if you ask me) simply fire off your emitted aura at the opponent (Franklin-style). While its almost certainly coincidental, the two most destructive abilities we've seen have both been Emission-based (i.e. Zero Hand and Meruem's concentrated Rage Blast). Adding Transmutation seems obsolete or even detrimental to the ability's destructive capabilities unless you're going for a very specific effect. Transmutation seems to be a much more difficult category to learn and master than Emission. While the basics of Transmutation will allow you to change the properties of your aura (i.e. make able to cut, such as Gon's Scissors), if you want more moderate to advanced applications of Transmutation, you'll need to put great effort in mimicking the properties of a specific substance (i.e. electricity, heat, rubber (and gum), etc. (unless you were tortured as a kid by it as a kid in which case go nuts)). This while the basics of Emission already include the core of the categories mechanics (emitting one's aura and hitting things with it). OK, this essay's getting out of hand. Sorry. In conclusion, while you make a great point and have given me something to seriously consider, I would argue that advanced application of Emission, paired with the moderate use of Enhancement and Manipulation, is a more optimal and lenient combination in its own right. While I'm sure there are insanely powerful or cool abilities you could come up with using the Enhancement-Emission-Transmutation combo, the Emission-Manipulation-Enhancement side seems to give you a lot more options, since we are yet to see any truly advanced combat usage of Enhancement on the level of Emission's "damage transfer" for example. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
@joeycole4510
@joeycole4510 Ай бұрын
A big part of the reason Emission and Transmutation are at the top is their proximity to Enhancement. Giving Enhancement extra credit for being next to the things that are next to Enhancement is double dipping
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 3 ай бұрын
Honestly any affinity can be the best at combat. Conjuration and Manipulation could end fights easily, sometimes not even needing to fight. I'd say Enhancement is the best not because of what Izunavi said, but because you could still branch out and be varied using the other affinities while still having to use the least amount of aura to defend yourself from other types of attacks
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 3 ай бұрын
Also at 7:39 they aren't phasing through reality, Luini was in his portal. Phasing isn't even really a property of Emission, just a basic property of Aura in general. Emitters, for obvious reasons, can take advantage of that property better than others. Emission didn't really get much of an upgrade, it's just we've finally seen the concepts we've been told being used more.
@anastamatovic2998
@anastamatovic2998 3 ай бұрын
Started watching since the category breakdown, gotta say, loving the progress ❤
@Seloliva1015
@Seloliva1015 3 ай бұрын
Emition gives you really simple and powerfull options to use at a base level (like enhancers), while also allowing masters of the category to flex extremly weird abilities (like transmuters). Also so many abilities need at least a little of Emition to work (manipulators), if you want to dip outside the category there are so many options. Love your vids!
@ClashBluelight
@ClashBluelight 3 ай бұрын
I still feel like Conjuration is not only the best category for combat, but simply the best category. Not only does it allow you to put more bodies on the field, which is the best possible ability, but it also allows you to do everything every other category does. You want to be more tough and strong than an enhancer? Make super armor. You want to have more range than an Emitter? Make a super gun. You want to have the properties of both rubber and gum? Conjure a Bungee Gum generator. You want to mind control somebody? Conjure a Nen contract. Literally every category, including everything Specialization has ever been shown to do, can be replicated by a skilled Conjurer.
@955Bogdan
@955Bogdan 3 ай бұрын
Your insightful analysis and enthusiastic presentation truly bring out the best in this series. Keep up the fantastic work!
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@cutestdemonever811
@cutestdemonever811 3 ай бұрын
Bro you have a fucking amzing Production quality i don‘t understand why u only got like 1.3k subs
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Aww, much appreciated! I tried to add a "no copyright" jazz track to this one, to make it a bit more engaging to listen to, buuuut it god copyright claimed...
@cutestdemonever811
@cutestdemonever811 3 ай бұрын
@@theoverthinker348 this sucks
@kisu_ve625
@kisu_ve625 3 ай бұрын
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@hujendong3730
@hujendong3730 3 ай бұрын
Its alright. Not too bad but its not anything too crazy
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
@@kisu_ve625 Noted. Thanks for the tip.
@stealmtm
@stealmtm 3 ай бұрын
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS THE WHOLE TIME
@NecroticHelios
@NecroticHelios 3 ай бұрын
Well, considering that range is hella op in this verse, no wonder
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Ye
@panini1292
@panini1292 3 ай бұрын
yo bc i kinda called it emission is op bc if u wanted u could js constantly emit tiny nen eggs which passively transfer portions of nearby peoples aura/nen allowing it to grow and eventually become a nen beast w its own hatsu which gets stronger the more op it is. If u throw more manipulation into that soup u get potentially billions of nen beasts which are all at your command and can act on their own
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Pure aura theft (effectively the opposite of what Knuckle does) would be neat ability indeed.
@SWGMurcielago
@SWGMurcielago 3 ай бұрын
you were right i did enjoy this video very much :D
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Told ya!
@modemaps4186
@modemaps4186 3 ай бұрын
ive been preaching all my life that emittors are king and i dont belive you will change your mind anytime soon
@Mr-_-Sombrero
@Mr-_-Sombrero 3 ай бұрын
Maby I am naive for thinking like that and you would have to be a real nen Genius to be able to do this. But I think there is a way for enhancers to be the strongest. The thing is nobody does that in the series so maby its not possible but thought of following. As an Enhancer you have 80% Affinity to Transmuation and Emission. You could create an ability wich uses transmutation to change your aura into something like flames, lightning, or lava. You can then use this to attack with you 100% enhancement strengh and cover you fists with transmuted nen of this element. On top of that you could use your 80% emission to fire of the transmuted aura like fireballs, or lighning balls. This gives you very powerful close and mid range options.> In short i think pairing Transmutation with Emission is a super strong combination and Enhancment is the best one for doing this. That + The strengh and defence buff Enhancement gives you this should be the best combination for combat in my Opinion. Please give feedback on this take or if i have some flaws in my theorie.
@jacobkristensen1692
@jacobkristensen1692 3 ай бұрын
It does seem viable. I do wonder about how much someone using an ability like that would need manipulation in tandem with emission to make those fire balls a threat. For an enhancer fighting in this way I thought keeping things fairly simple like hisoka would be good. A hatsu that transmutes nen making it able to vary in density malleability/elasticity could be strong making networks of shields spikes bubbles and nets. The main trick would be creating air pockets compressing and vacuuming air simply by manipulating your Nens shape. and then using jets of air to guide strands of nen (sometimes with a solid pointy end) to lay traps or hit your opponent.
@jacobkristensen1692
@jacobkristensen1692 3 ай бұрын
For your ability you would need to create a sort of barrier between the users body and the offensive nen though. Killua could ignore the shocks (it wasn’t stated as a 1 to 1 copy of actual electricity if I recall though he did electrocute himself with wires once to recharge) but feitan had to protect his body from the heat.
@Mr-_-Sombrero
@Mr-_-Sombrero 3 ай бұрын
@@jacobkristensen1692 True but i think when strong enhancers like uvogin can tank rocker launchers point blank, he could survive his into fire transmuted aura.
@looneytunes4603
@looneytunes4603 3 ай бұрын
Judging but you're saying, Homeless emperor from one punch man could be a great example of a good emitter. He can emitt aura from his body in a form of orbs and then manipulate those orbs so they can hit his opponents at a blinding speed. On top of that he has 80% affinity for enhancement so he could either enhance himself just incase things get physical or enhance the orbs.
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Great example. Something like his orbs is what I had in mind. The only issue with him is that, as far as I can remember, his gimmick was that he had the physical capabilities of a regular guy. If he could've used his powera to boost his physical durability or speed, that would've been the absolute perfect example of what I had in mind.
@looneytunes4603
@looneytunes4603 3 ай бұрын
@@theoverthinker348 True, he would have been busted if he had superhuman strength as well. But since this is nen we're talking about I guess he won't have unlimited orbs since his power doesn't come from God anymore. Now when it comes to his physical capabilities, I think the 80% in enhancement would come in handy.
@grumpygrumble6388
@grumpygrumble6388 3 ай бұрын
Good youtuber deserves subs
@thedestroy3r303
@thedestroy3r303 2 ай бұрын
Gilgamesh is the best nen-user tbh, he can conjure blades and manipulate them to fly at you at an incredible speed. He can conjure a high speed flying saucer which can outgun and outmaneuver many modern jets. He conjures chains that can bind you based on your divinity, don't know how that would translate to HxH. What do you think, would he be a conjurer, manipulator, emitter or specializer?
@Kdowg222
@Kdowg222 3 ай бұрын
Can i use ur character model for a comic
@lorenzohibbert2832
@lorenzohibbert2832 3 ай бұрын
Kinda disagree enhancement while predictable is still the best. It can only be beat with prep time
@Blasco_Snap
@Blasco_Snap Ай бұрын
While I agree emission is probably the most versatile in combat, I think enhancers are the kings of combat. If you're born an enhancer, you can essentially live within your category, because it comes with all the offense and defense you need at 100% without needing to branch off to another category. It's a completely self-sufficient nen type. And we see what enhancers can do. Gon's jajanken multiplies his punch. Phinks can probably rotate his arm to absurd levels. Uvo's big bang need no explanation. You can also enhance any weapons you might want to use. I think Gotoh enhances his coins to fire them as a ranged attack. So enhancement isn't limited to only melee.
@thedestroy3r303
@thedestroy3r303 3 ай бұрын
I doubt any single category can be definitively considered the best, especially when there's a wildcard that could introduce unknown abilities of unknown strength into the algorithm. However, aside from specialization, I would have to agree that emission seems like the best choice due to its proximity to the other two powerhouse categories and its infinite pool of possible abilities.
@_Kuroro
@_Kuroro 3 ай бұрын
It depends on the person.
@noxkurosaki4213
@noxkurosaki4213 3 ай бұрын
I think nen beasts fall under conjuration. With conjuration you can materialize an object or a being from your aura. Emission is broadly speaking "separating your aura from your body". Razor is an emitter so a 40% compatibility in conjuration that's why his nen beasts have no special traits but they are still created by conjuration.
@loochunkai2026
@loochunkai2026 3 ай бұрын
There are nen beast that are not visible to non nen users, and can phase through walls, eg guardian nen beast of the princes. Therefore they are not purely conjured, and separating aura is the definition of emission.
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 3 ай бұрын
​@@loochunkai2026phasing through walls is just a trait of Aura in general. Emitters are simply one of the few classes that can take advantage of this
@loochunkai2026
@loochunkai2026 3 ай бұрын
@@Whodjathink I mean you do need emission to separate aura, and besides the point about phasing through walls is to show that the nen beasts are not conjured.
@Whodjathink
@Whodjathink 3 ай бұрын
@@loochunkai2026 Not true, since both Hanzo and Kacho had clones that were visible and BOTH phased through the walls. The nen beasts are still aura even when conjured and can make use of that property
@loochunkai2026
@loochunkai2026 3 ай бұрын
@@Whodjathink please point me to the panel that SHOWS they phased through walls. Conjured objects can be unconjured to allow the sure to pass through solid objects, like Shizuku did. I have not seen evidence of them phasing through matter.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 2 ай бұрын
To be honest i think its enhancement. Super tough, can change the qualities, and emit their nen. They dont control things or create objects but they dont really need to. Hisoka cleverly uses texture suprise to his advantage
@dudeguyrockfan
@dudeguyrockfan 2 ай бұрын
It's almost as if the 2 most basic concepts in nen classifications are the best is combat. BIG boom or POWER punch?
@yamato9753
@yamato9753 3 ай бұрын
Tbh, I'd love to be an enhancer. I'd have access to 5 categories at over 50% and the 2 kings of general combat at 80%. Let's forget about manipulation and conjuration for a second. Enhancement, transmutation and emission are a deadly combination. "I can mimic anything, at long range and make it super strong". My favorite example here is 0-hand. The blast is compred to "a dazzling star", which I theorise to be fancy words for (transmited into a tiny supernova). This is also emitted to hit the enemy and pumped full of the entire aura of a master-enhancer.
@KKsKrissvs121
@KKsKrissvs121 2 ай бұрын
Enhancers can enhance their brain tho
@comedygold6249
@comedygold6249 3 ай бұрын
I think that emission's advantage isn't in creating nen beasts, but in what the nen beasts can do, think of knuckle's bankruptcy ability as a conjured basic balloon where the true power is in the emission aura stored within it, allowing its ability to function
@urlocalalbanian5446
@urlocalalbanian5446 2 ай бұрын
i got a 3 min 18 sec unskibable ad at the start of the video istg i hate this
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 2 ай бұрын
The actual hell? I've never even heard of that. I have the default ad things set up and the most I've gotten on my vids (or any vids) is 30 secs. I'll look into it. Do you mind telling me which country you're viewing the vid from and if you have a VPN active?
@urlocalalbanian5446
@urlocalalbanian5446 2 ай бұрын
@@theoverthinker348 i was watching from germany i heard youtube added someting so ppl wouldnt add blockers and since opera has an add blocker installed it couldve ben that it also couldve ben a normal add wich got bugged so it didnt have a skip button
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 2 ай бұрын
@@urlocalalbanian5446 I checked, YT hasn't gone insane. 15 secs or less is the standard for unskippable ads. What you say is what most likely caused it to bug out.
@urlocalalbanian5446
@urlocalalbanian5446 2 ай бұрын
@@theoverthinker348 prolly i took a pic of it+it also rrminded me of an add that was skipable so it was prolly a bug
@GrizverG
@GrizverG 3 ай бұрын
Emission is now indeed a very versatile, unpredictable and balanced affinity. I do believe that 1v1 the affinity that can defeat, let’s say, Meruem is 100% transmutation. Emission is more for survival, in specific cases maybe surprise murder, but otherwise it is a weaker enhancement with tricky concepts emission and pew-pews flying different directions. Conjuring a nen object and then transmuting its properties should be enough in most cases to overcome any emitter
@walnutstudio502
@walnutstudio502 3 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@ontoya1
@ontoya1 3 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why I love emission. My OC ability is pretty much just creating nanobots with my aura to manipulate a molecules, rip them apart smash them together so on and so forth.
@policehue4223
@policehue4223 3 ай бұрын
Saw this in my feed, and couldn't believe you of all people would betray the transmutation bois. That unsub button looking real nice atm
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Go home Hue, you're drunk.
@comedygold6249
@comedygold6249 3 ай бұрын
Tbh, the nen affinity doesn't matter combat wise, i think that simply put, the combat instincts are the only thing that really matters, meruem won against netero despite meruem being an emitter who only used physical reflexes and mental chess and basic nen with no nen abilities in the fight, now i know meruem was an outlier but i still think that the basics and a strong combat instinct is more than enough, with nen type simply setting a boundary for each nen user to craft their own ability with
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps, but that was not the premise of the video. The premise was to argue for the most combat-attunable category (all other things being equal).
@sabel119
@sabel119 3 ай бұрын
I think togashi started overcompensating for emission, of all nen categories emission is the most boring, according to its definition all you can do with it is nen equivalent of Ki Blast, then togashi started adding vague "emissive" powers to it like wrap gates, transportation nen beasts and making pocket dimensions and now it's the most versatile nen type after specialization
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
I'd argue that the most "boring" category is definitively Enhancement. Emission previously had 3 established gimmicks: Nen blasts, Nen beasts and teleportation. Enhancement had Ko and Shu and other variayions of hitting harded (with fist or weapon) from the very start. While it has been expanded on since, its striclty combat-centric applications have remained the same (thus far).
@sabel119
@sabel119 3 ай бұрын
@@theoverthinker348 I've been split between enhancement and emission as which is the most "boring" category, but in the definition before the intro of York New arc it's said the enhancement can improve natural properties of body and objects and I thought it makes it very versatile as the user can sharpen their sword, enhance their vision and reaction..etc, I also didn't think nen beasts were actually emission based initially, so I was just talking about my first impression when I watched the series for the very first time. But now enhancement is without arguing the most "boring" category, but I hope togashi will give it the same treatment as others categories in coming chapters.
@theoverthinker348
@theoverthinker348 3 ай бұрын
@@sabel119 Similar treatment. Some of tbe changes have not been to my taste. A bit to... JoJo-afied at times.
@Januaryof28
@Januaryof28 3 ай бұрын
its definitely specialist alluka kurapika chrollo pitou pacuknoda( lmao ) leol (lmao ) meleron Idnich and one of the chimera ants. the emitter has some boring and nen abilities and is usually secondary except for stuff like sweet home the vodoo nen ability. Youd think knov would be a transmuter too but i guess teleporting is emitter for some reason . idnich is the most powerful character in the series
@loochunkai2026
@loochunkai2026 3 ай бұрын
If we take Hisoka’s (admittedly not accurate) personality test into account, transmuters have a higher chance of winning a fight than emitters. They are more cunning and emitters have less control over their emotions, which will matter in a fight.
@drsh1711
@drsh1711 3 ай бұрын
Meruem, Silva, Zeno and Razor make me think it doesn't really matter that much
@SoothingMusic883
@SoothingMusic883 3 ай бұрын
there are always exceptions, you listed arguably 4 top ten characters.@@drsh1711
@GrizverG
@GrizverG 3 ай бұрын
@@drsh1711are they all emitters?!?
@loochunkai2026
@loochunkai2026 3 ай бұрын
@@drsh1711 fair point. I think that all nen veterans are like that, since they would have long died if they are dumb or too emotional. As such, I do not think they are a good representation of emitters. Even Hisoka was acting like a logical tactician in the middle of his fight against Chrollo. If the question is about the best category for top level nen combat, then emitters are the best, if not my original point still stands.
@youdragmyballs6093
@youdragmyballs6093 2 ай бұрын
enhancement is my favorite because of the fact as a beginner you seem to have more will to fight. along with that it allows you to use emission and transmutation decently well and all 5 standard nen use like netero did.
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