"No self respecting modern man should really own a short stroke piston gun." I honestly dont know why I like this channel so much when I am victimized by nearly every single Hop take. Fuck this guy. Cant wait for the next video where I learn that im breathing wrong. Also, that closing monologue about waiting to buy a suppressor was mint!

I wonder when direct thread suppressors will become discontinued now Hop has made a video about them.

Kids these days will never know the feeling when your tax stamp gets approved after 13 months

Hop going into detail about a niche suppressor mount while running an actual Leupold Ham'r is so on brand. While other guntubers are schilling hypebeast products or getting involved in drama, Hop be out here autismmaxxing and we respect him for that.

Direct threading is like PB&J. You think one day you'll outgrow it, but then you look down and your hands are covered in jelly and your child is yelling at you for eating their lunch.....

Bought my first can with a long wait time and all subsequent cans with a short wait time so I can be smug in both directions.

I was on QD gang when owning 2 cans still meant needing to play musical chairs with them. Now that I'm a dirty cringeflunecer, and suppressors clear in a week. I find it hard to justify anything other than DT

What would the sound be like if the blast chamber had a micro entrance to the Backrooms?

The Government: "YOU NEED A MUFFLER ON YOUR CAR! ITS TO LOUD!!!" Also The Government: "YOU CANT SUPPRESS YOUR GUN! IT'S TO QUIET!!!"

finally, a good take from Hop

"Hitchens's Razor" Haven’t heard that before but I’m going to start using it. He was a great man. Thanks for all the helpful advice Hop!

"Swore they would never buy a suppressor" I did swear I would never buy a suppressor but that was only because I was never in one state long enough to actually wait for for the form 4 approval, but now that ATF has got its ass out of whatever chair they were sitting in I'm *absolutely* starting an SBR and Suppressor collection.

Ventum 762 Ti, certified June 3 and approved June 4. Form 4 individual. Them times is super fast.

Years before owning a silencer, the biggest issue I watched people have is having to constantly check and tighten their direct thread silencer. I use a direct thread on my hunting rifle since it'd only be 1-2 shots, but I'm still going to put a qd on it. All my other rifles have a qd/brake. You simply get a superior connection between the rifle and silencer. To me the other pluses are moot points in comparison. Excellent video as always though Hop.

If a DT suppressor has wrench flats, all you need is 25-30 ft lbs of torque and that puppy is never coming off. No rocksett even needed.

Love my Hux Flow 556. Takes all the thinking out of it for me.

@Hop Fun hack for suppressor. I'm a firefighter. I take my expired structural firefighting gloves home or after I tear them etc. They ROCK for handing suppressors. You cant feel a thing. Find you a firefighter to send you one spare glove and keep it in kit. Also fun at campfires for grabbing on fire logs for shock value.

Perfect. Damn. Timing. Literally just got my first suppressor after a seven month wait and decided to direct-thread due to cost and weight savings.

And I felt like I was lucky when I only had to wait 6 months for my can stamp back in 2019.

I personally am a big fan of direct thread cans. It gives me an opportunity to not only sell a can, but get some gunsmithijg work pin and welding that can onto a barrel. Cucking the atf out of 200 bucks for an SBR is just icing on the cake

You mentioned "Hitchens Razor" in a video on cans? I love you.

Thanks Hop! Great idea for a video. The video from 1911 Syndicate is what led me to join the DT gang for life. I too have a ‘tism for SAWC especially on the end of the barrel.

I like the idea of suppressor and brake companies trying to come up with a universal mounting system for their suppressors when they're all already sitting on a universal mounting system that is 1/2″x28 lol

Took months to find a surefire 556 mini 2 in stock, took 5 days to get the can approved and another 7 days to ship and recieve from capitol armory. The fact they will ship cans to your residence is wild

I like having the taper or even an extra locking piece to prevent the can from walking off, mainly just because of my own neurotic concerns than any evidence so far that would happen. It's more of a peace of mind thing but I guess since the time investment isn't so intense now due to reduced waiting periods even that is less of a problem. Suppressor compatible muzzle devices keep the threads protected but that feels like reaching for a reason these things should exist. I guess I just like them because they're neat. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Good food for thought. For me, blast baffle erosion on my 10.3 is somewhat of a concern, having a brake to act as a sacrificial baffle is appealing, despite the added weight. Yes form 4s are clearing in days now but replacing a suppressor is still a not insignificant extra expense. As for transport, I don't care about making the gun super compact, I care about a hot can melting the foam in my case, being able to use a hi-temp suppressor pouch to remove and store the can after a range trip is very nice.

Just got my approval this morning! Picked up my OCL polonium 🤘🏻

This is by far your most complicated video to understand. Thank you.

I feel like everything after 8:25 was just a personal attack _stares at 13.9 P&W Keymo AR waiting for its $500 suppressor_

Have both QD and DT and I like them both for their given application

My first 2 suppressors were the Hyperion & Hyperion K(Go Hard or Go Home) & they've only ever been DTed on the 6.75in & 9in 300blk out Virtusi I bought them for. The Virtus SD handguards being some of the only ones thicc enough to give me that Perfect Goodbye Horses level tuck, along with the ADAC lower doing everything better has kept me from moving on to the LT. Short Stroke Piston guns FTW

Hop. Hop pls. Publish videos like this years ago pls. This is info I largely figured out only after dicking around with QD for a couple years and now rocking a Rifle Gas 16" with a direct thread Turbo K. Thanks for putting it out now though, I'm sending it to friends who don't yet have cans.

My only beef with direct thread is that just shooing it will unthread it. Easily solved with a left hand thread pitch but unfortunately those aren't standard. Biggest reason I'd go with another mounting solution

I've had my eye on the Griffin one that attaches to A2 flash hiders.

Sometimes I don't really care about the content or anything out of a Hop video but the second I see Socko I smash that fucking like button.

One huge bonus of direct thread suppressors is the option to pin and weld them to a short barrel to make a non-sbr. Like the Gemtech at @2:53, some even come pre-drilled for a pin. My last can cleared in 3 days!

Great video as always brother 🤘 and you got one of the coolest cats man always love seeing them at the end of the vids ✌️

Thank you Hop! God bless! Be safe! 🤙🪖👮🙏🇺🇲

8:17 I have been trying to convey this since the 13.7" took off and it's felt like I'm the only person who got this. Thank you. I feel like its not hard to understand that muzzle devices eat up volume and reduce performance while increasing weight

a great very interesting video Mr.Hop.have a good one Mr.

I went QD because I just wanted a 14.5 without making an sbr, but switching from keymo to the rearden attachment system was a night and day difference in terms of weight.

Babe wake up. Hop uploaded direct thread suppressor pros.

I've enjoyed the Q Plan B mounting system. Plan B suppressor mount + LPM (Liberty Precision Machine) Eclipse flash hider. Good combination that keeps length and weight down compared to many other mounting systems like the KeyMo and ASR.

I run KeyMo on my 13.7 short-stroke piston gun.

Griffin Armament has some of the best lock-up designs I've seen.

Great job Hop💯🔥

All i want is one Hop beretta 1301 video even if it's a 30 minute schitzo rant on how shotguns aren't viable

I like the YHM sRx system you mentioned a little while back. It's a great Hub system close to direct thread. Lets me mix my YHM and DD Sound Guard Cans and works much better than the YHM Phantom system I used to use.

Grabbed myself a rugged razor for my first can as a response to the wait times. One of my local ffl’s had one in stock still

Wow big improvement to the cadence! Kudos

I had a two day wait time last month. They approved me on Sunday of Memorial Day weekend! Order your can!

I just bought my boonie cap from Venture last night. Thanks for releasing this video after the fact 🙃

The funniest thing about this is Hop got me thinking “I really need a quick detach system for rifles X and Y to use can Z.” Up to now I’ve been using direct thread only, partly because of potential tolerance stacking and partly because of weight/length/cost concerns. I don’t need fast swap capability; however, with a .30 caliber can there’s a good argument for some form of muzzle device on each of those rifles when they *don’t* have the can attached. And “NO” I am not buying a dedicated can for every freedom dispenser no matter how short the wait time is today.

Got my can in 3 days from submittal! Was awesome.

Direct thread with wrench flats is by far the best budget mounting system. The wrench flats allow you to torque it to a point where the idea of it walking loose, even on a belt fed machine, is literally a joke. That same crushing torque ability also will give you the most consistent POI/POA shift in the game.

Fixed front sight gas blocks are dope.

Knight's legacy NT4 mount is honestly the only non-threaded option that hasn't given me any issues with loosening or getting stuck. 3-lug is great but there's a lot of crappy knock-off variants that just aren't safe. My personal go-to is threaded options w/ centering taper collars (Mk12 can or similar modern options, like Q's and the knock-offs).

I would like to make a counter point that direct thread muzzle brakes pinned in place are the superior option for signature reduction. Your target can’t locate you if they’re blinded and deafened. -this comment brought to you by ban state gang.

Hop please do a video on the leupold HAMR, I have one and love it

I think qd makes sense for guys like yours truly who only own one can but a couple of host weapons. Being able to shoot 300blk,556,308 gives you a lot of options. However my next can will inevitably be a direct thread 556 can.

gormlessly looking forward to a HAMR vid now

I have a couple QD but all my hub mounts I run DT and leave them on the same rifle. I use a high dollar blue paste loctite that’s good to around 600 ish degrees and never had an issue.

Only got a 30 year old H&K tube and I sincerely love that ol cokepipe. Very much direct thread. Tested some different ones, yes, there are advantages, but IM(amateur)O negligible, at least for me, range and occasional competion.

I love watching hop make videos of things that ill never buy because im too cheap and am in denial over handing my information over to a 3 letter agency that already has it. Oh well, time to slap another com block 4 piece brake on an AR. Poor man's signature reduction.

Do more pistol stuff. Throwback hop

I'll probably get a direct thread .556 instead of a QD for my next can. I have a DT 22 can and a QD 762 can right now, but the suppressor wait times make a DT can so much more worth it.

I like a taper mount personally. I can see how direct thread would have it's benefits, but ive always seen and had issues with them walking off. You can have a 1/2x28 or 5/8x24 nut machined to lock your direct thread can in place better. thread the nut all the way onto the barrel, thread your suppressor on over it and then back the nut up so that it tightens against the suppressor.

Yeah, the last can I bought before the wait times dropped was 14 months; the one I got this year was 6 days. Gotta love it! But now I have to figure out where to hide them from the wife.

Really considering direct thread for my 10” 300blk build I’m doing. I wanted a riflespeed gas system but it’s been difficult finding the right barrel/ hand guard combo size to go with it. May stick to a more simpler adjustable one.

I love my Gemtech Patrolman, completely agree with direct thread. I have a QD YHM from 2009 its a boat anchor

I hope NFA trust wait times go down too at some point. Thank you Hop.

"No self respecting person should own a short stroke piston gun" **Cries in tano 416 clone**

If you have a flow through can, qd makes sense so you can easily take it off every 1.5-2k rounds to clean the can.

DT all the way, unless its huxwrx flow. 3-4.5oz less on the end of the gun makes a big difference to me, also shorter you can get a 13.7 as short overall as a 12.5 with a QD attached depending on suppressor and QD I think a lot of people overlook OAL.

Having only even seen a few at a range, very limited experience with them other than the "youtube personal opinions" still kinda like the gatelock system. Wish we had more possibilities, like I want to foster care one for a week at a time 😂

I find myself not using my suppressor anymore 😂 i shoot high volume and dont care for the added weight. Maybe if i had a shorter and more lightweight one i would use it more. After melting a suppressor cover, i fell out of love with using it

Once huxwrx figures out how to make their cans direct thread, they will be unstoppable.

My first can was a Gemtech Trek II. Not because Hop had one but because it was the cheapest can in the store and I predominately shot 5.56 at the time. I distinctly recall being very happy with how it sounded on my 11.5 with an Odin Works adjustable gas block. Noticeably quieter to the shooter than my buddies YHM Resonator K and they are similar in dimensions overall. That is a .30 cal can but…from that moment I actually was a big fan of direct thread. Our guns were very similarly configured but mine was quieter and less expensive. Since then I also grabbed a resonator K that moves between my 6 arc and 6 creed, and it’s nice…but my DeadAir Wolfman stays as a direct thread item on my GHM-9 because it is also noticeably quieter and lighter, even in K configuration, then it is with a KeyMo adapter.

I love videos from (The artist formerly known as Hoplopfhiel)

I enjoyed this video.

Surefires are not the quietest suppressors but they do have a good return to zero. You can also toggle back and forth between the Mini and full size Surefires with minimal shift.

I'm on a 2 month wait right now. I hope mine clears real soon.

I tried to explain this to a friend of mine who is recently in to guns and just got his first can(s). He works as an engineer for a car manufacturer and broke it down like this after trying and realizing that bigger isn’t always better. Weight on the end of the barrel is the same thing as unspiring mass on on your car. Oz’s = LBS.

Just bought a DD sound guard, average wait time as per ATF site says 39 days now. People are stocking up.

First can I bought was a gemtech trek ii to p/w on an 11.5 Geissele barrel. Heard Geissele barrels are well gassed so I figured I’ll tune it with buffers and be done with it. If I want a can on a different rifle then I’ll just buy another can.

I just bought my quick detach. Can that fits over a two flash hiders. it’s not nearly as quiet as probably a direct attach can would be. But it does a great job hiding the flash.

You have so many optics!

Hey man, I know it's a long video but have you checked out the video classic firearms released touring q facility? It really is an eye opener with why they do the things they do. I know it's over 3 and a half hours long, but I think it's really cool and worth the view.

At the moment, my DDC enticer Ti L and Ti S are running DT mounts, but they are dedicated to two rifles. Eventually i am going to send my old GA m4sd2 to Ecco machine up have it converted to hub mounts, and run the plan b mounts from readen. If I could go it over again I would have held off from buying the m4sd2 and Recce 7, do more research, and got something with hub threads instead. Thankfully Ecco machine is around.

I don't know shit about guns, if I use a direct thread suppressor on a bolt action rifle would I have to deal with all this tuning stuff? I like simplicity.

Ive seen corrotion due to condensation from shooting. After that I always remove my suppressors after firing, letting them ”dry up” before putting them on again.

Thanks Hop When it comes to muzzle devices, the only benefit that I've seen is that with a Witt Tool & Machine Mod1 on an AR pistol, the can is not very effective with a flash hider. But the same can with a single chamber break on an AR pistol sounds about the same as the can on a 16" gun with a flash hider. And really, on an AR pistol with a flash hider mount the Mod1 has very little benefit, flash is extraordinary and report is hardly effected.

Good video

I shoot unsuppressed sometimes due to length and weight so having a bare muzzle isn't the best experience. I like having a flash hider. Also when shooting long range with long strings of fire I find shooting unsuppressed is easier since I'm not looking through a shit ton of mirage from the heat coming off the suppressor

Good morning everyone

I have actually seen flash hiders cause bad erosion on suppressors recently for the first time. I thought it was BS before but it most certainly is not.

Video's from the man.. right as i need them!🫡 I decided to purchase 4 suppressors in one shot (pun intended) and it was a mere 10 day's before the rapid approvals became a thing. I had to wait forever.. Laaaame as hell. On a positive note, im not so old i had to walk uphill in the snow both ways to and from school. So there's that. Thanx Hop.✊️

Hop! Get some griffin cans in for review please! Love ya!

6/19 will mark a year since submitting the form 4 for my suppressor. Really wish they did first come first serve when they sped up their processing times.

I’ve found myself favoring mounts that won’t walk off. I’m a big fan of huxwrx’s design. But my DA direct threaded wolverine walks off of anything I’ll put it on even after a mag or two