If only she brought more than 3 ships of men with her...

@@John21WoW Because a band of 200 orcs just conquered Mordor what was defended by 20 elves and a couple of peasants?

Fix audio

It's the kind of show where you realize that the more you think about it, the worse it gets. It's like GOT season 8.

LOL

Galadriel: yes. because i'm an elf and you're humans.

@@jacktheomnithere2127 What about all the humans who were stood right next to her?

@@lordporpoise8761 fair point XD

@@lordporpoise8761 C'mon now, they were protected by her greatness! At least anyone named in the show, because there were a bunch of dead people there who _did_ look like Pompeii victims...

@@lordporpoise8761 but they showed a few of them dead. Like 10 feet from her XD

They are staying true to each other. They're just selfish little shits.

You forgot the best part where girl Frodo and girl Sam go off with girl Frodo’s mom and the old guy to find Sauron #2 before Sauron #3 finds him, thereby leaving everyone else behind right after all their food and supplies had been destroyed. Seems like the type of thing you’d want to stick together for, but nah, girl Frodo and girl Frodos mom abandon their cripple husband and Harrfoot chief abandons his ENTIRE TRIBE to go find Sauron #2. This show is perfectly nonsensical, I’m convinced the writers were huffing paint when writing the first and only draft of the script

PREACH.

@@Mr_Mcgee_ Nathan is right. The show was written by AI.

The best part is when that older harfoot admits she was wrong and the leader should go with Nori, and then the NEXT SENTENCE, the leader says "ya know, just once in a while, I wish you weren't always right" This episode was so bad I laughed out loud many times

He’s one episode away from ending up like Renfield from Dracula. Good thing he didn’t see this one.

He almost made it through, he's just 1 episode away from the finishing line.

Maybe he’s the lucky one…

He died from cringe

I haven't watched since 5. The Mithril MAcGuffin got me. I might finish it when 8 comes out but don't really feel much eagerness

Except for when they're corrupted into orcs though, but then again it can be argued that the original orcs are immortal, while their descendants are not. And plus Melkor himself is the one doing the elf corruption, the biggest bad of the universe and everything outside it. Nothing else should be able to even come close to what he did.

@@jsw973 Tolkien wrote and rewrote various origins for the orcs. The orcs if they were once elves must be counted among the elves even when they are so badly corrupted. I believe the red book, in deep geek, and other KZfaqrs have talked about this in videos such as “how long do orcs live”

What happened to Oz?

Their immortal bodies would wither away if they didn't depart middle earth tho. That is what happened to Thranduil. Only little difference is that here what takes several thousands of years here happens in a few months, which is completely fucking ridiculous

@@josuesolisgamboa3376 when Melkor made the world his ring he corrupted everything until the end of days. When an elf stays in middle earth the elf is still immortal but the physical world would begin to have a corrupting influence on their physical body but their spirit would remain causing them to die. And elves can die but the difference between men and elves is that men would stay dead going to another place to await the end of days but elves would slowly be healed and returned to the world being bound in it for as long as it exists.

RIP in peace.

To be fair he couldn't stand any more of that terrible dialogue so death was probably an eternal release from his imprisonment, like a stone that looked towards the sky, he will sail on....

I couldn't even watch past episode 4 because the dialogue was so bad and it only got worse so really I cant blame him lol

😁😁

I bet he'll return as Nathan the White.

Balrogs must be light sleepers

@@Mr_Mcgee_ or alergic to leafs

As immensely stupid as this show is, Jackson has some incredibly stupid changes to the LoTR story too, one of the prime ones being that Saruman not only knew of the existence of the Balrog in Moria (which he did not), to also forcing the party into Moria, into the clutches of said Balrog!. To top off this stupidity, he also had Gandalf know of the Balrog's existence. Either of the Istari to put the ring within the grasp of a Balrog, is up there with the writing prowess of Rings of Power, and absolutely stupid (especially when he was apparently supposed to have Tolkien experts working on the movies!).

@@zorbageekman2761 Why wouldn't they know about it? the incident wouldn't have been so old that they wouldn't know. Note the lrod of moria was Balin, an old friend of bilbo and Gandalf. so yea gandalf would have known of his fate. Not to mention that balrog and wizards re kind of the same breed too, so if they felt something wake up.... yea. also think bout it. It would 100% be something that Sarumon in his corrupt state would do. If the ring fell into a balrog's hand then it would incite civil war within the forces of darkness and would weaken it. Whehter to his advantage or simply him wanting to weaken and fuck over sauron, who knows, but it makes sense. Sauron would not abide by it.

@@zorbageekman2761 go away and stop comparing this in that way. It's too dumb.

The fact that she is supposed to be married to Celeborn makes the cringe romance between Galadriel and Sauron, I mean Halbrand, that much more ridiculous/funny. I think Tolkien would have definitely included a lustful Galadriel simping for Sauron when her hubby is getting tortured or some shit, seems totally on brand 🤡

Did the show actualy kill him? I must have mised this all fall asleap. Did they actualy sey that?

@@bartoszjedlinski6808 Galadriel does say he is dead to whats his face, half elf kid.

You're giving them far more credit. That would involve actual effort and plot.

@@bartoszjedlinski6808 Celeborn is as dead as Isildur - cause the show thinks you haven’t watched LOTR and don’t know that Isildur and Celeborn are alive by the time of the fellowship

Sadly it only needs a properly made documentary about Pompej or Mount St. Hellen or any other f***ing volcano to proof that point.

Yes because up to that point it was spot on...

My wife is a volcanologist. Its completely stupid.

It might be stupid but it the show was great otherwise thins like this can be forgiven. The show is bad all around though.

Pyroclastic flow FTW.

That would be called common sense and the showrunners apparently don't know about that word.🤣

he swore an oath to not reveal Durin secret which he most definitely kept and did not leave a piece of mithril with celebrimbor

I'm dreading when Gandalf (the not Gandalf) guy gets named Mithrandir... I guarantee a ROP writer has thought "Hang on Mithril, Mithrandir... Hmmm they sound similar. I think we should involve Not Gandalf in the making of Mithril and hence they name him Mithrandir"

I genuinely thought thats what Durin was suggesting when he called out Elrond’s name 😂

@@atulbhogle That's what I thought too. Durin: "Just take this piece, friend, and test it on the tree. Then we shall have proof for my father that the blight is caused by some evil and not the gods and we may convince him". Elrond: "Yes, the golden sapling I gave you all those years ago and you have tended is not affected by the blight either. It may be enough!"

Different screenwiters wrote both episodes and no one bothered to check for character consistency.

@@HanzzzCZECH I think it goes deeper than that. Different writers are writing lots of different scenes and the showrunners put them all in a hat and pick out a sequence at random. No one writer could be so stupid as to give us this RoP story. Right? Right?

This!

@@HanzzzCZECH You could shorten your comment to "no one bothered" and you would perfectly sum up the entire series.

They're both gifts, but the Elves aren't invulnerable, and their bodies can still be killed. They fade the longer they stay in the Middle Earth, save for Cirdan, I guess, but I reckon due to his attachment to the sea. So yeah, the show is completely pulling it out of the ass, the Elves won't die if they don't get the Misty Mountains Duracell.

@@marcusgaius Tolkiens use of fading was only to have a link between his Elves and the fairies of Spencer. there is no fading in the 2th, 3th and start of the 4th Age..... only long after all the events in the Return of the King have happened. In his original set up Tolkien had timeline in mind presenting the mythology as told by Elves of Westernisse to an Anglosaxon traveler Eriol and contempory of Hengist and Horsa. He even wrote the Annals of Valinor in Anglosaxon English.

@@marcusgaius while Galadriel exists, tis no gift.

Tbf, Bronwyn should have died of the arrow wounds from the previous episode

Pyrocraptastic plot armour...

Pyroclastic flow is nothing against pyroPLASTIC armor there fixed it for you

One thing you got wrong, the Blue Wizards did come in the SA. But everything else spot on.

@@LightemupWMH You're right. My bad.

And just happened to only destroy all the apple trees the Harfoots needed for food.

Even better, she had her armour upgraded to Woke Plot Armour.

@@SkullkeeperVSK lol yep

She used God potion

Paragon - 1

Don't forget pyroclastic flow is utterly toxic and unbreathable

The devs forgot to cap the max damage resistance at 95%.

@@mandowarrior123 I'm sorry. Her Sword carries 70% smoke resistance

How long would it have taken the water to flow from the watchtower over 100 miles to the volcano then?

We have reached levels of shilling previously thought impossible.

Do you think one of the rocks went all the way to the sea where Isildur threw an apple? Maybe we'll see it sink a boat in the next episode (because, as we've seen, the Numenoreans travel faster than volcanic rocks).

@@lasselen9448 Apples only look downwards, but flying volcanic rocks look upward, they do not heed the dark force of gravity trying to drag them down, but they follow the light!

Cirith Ungol is about where the watchtower was... so what happened to the river?

You win sir.

Bumblebee Man would improve this show immensely.

I was so hoping that to be the case. They could be forgiven if they went that route.

You're absolutely right! I didn't even notice that the first time around. And they can't even say it was a reference to that because they don't have the rights!!

Really late response, but that uncle and aunt (Galadriel’s mom was the daughter of the uncle’s brother) were also Luthien Tinuviel’s parents. So the women are cousins first removed.

This show is like a soap opera, so he'll problably appear as the husband she thought dead and forgot completely about it. I've already heard rumours about it. I think they will now try to set up things thinking that that will fix all this mess🤣

I just had a dark thought. What if Adar is a brainwashed Celeborn?

@@swagathan5 You would think that Galadriel would be able to recognise his face. However, I do not put it past these writers with an off-hand comment like "he is not Celeborn any more"

Thought you may like to edit for accuracy, I think you mean Dwarf, not elf?

@@tun0fun ah yeah, that’s what I meant. Dwarf, elf, whatever she might be? She is straight up trying to convince her husband to over throw his father.

@@eriol_mits3121 Yes, I was liking her character until that scene.

Her insistence on helping the elves and pushing durin IV to Stand up to Durin III makes her directly responsible for awakening the Balrog and destroying Moria.

If Papa Durin knows of the balrog, then he is stupid for not telling mini Durin.

Targaryens aren't even immune to fire as she apparently is. What a Mary Sue.

I would say a Retard-Dare-you-on

It is known

Don't insult Targaryens!

💯

Then picks up Boromir and chucks him in after, because even Guyladriel can't save Sean Bean.

All characters contradict themselves every time they open their mouths

"It's not okay to call bad deeds good...but I want to wipe out all the orcs in front of Adar so that I can see him suffer"

I'm not sure it is a particularly big volcano, more just THE volcano.

I see your perspective, and that would be an interesting plot twist - but I honestly believe the show runners and writers of this show are so incompetent and can't write proper characters. Its more likely they have just bastardized galadriel and installed Halbrand as Sauron imo.

Isn’t that exactly what bohremir proclaimed in the consoul of Elron?

Usually we don't meddle with active volcanos but during handling of forest fires it is advised to wear face masks because fine dust can enter your lungs. Fortunatly wood ash particles are mostly round and have a smooth surface so one will cough them up eventually, also they are not very toxic since they have little mineralic content which could react to acids by contact with water.

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. Nasty stuff.

@@ChallengeIdeas A hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliaphobiac’s nightmare.

@@ChallengeIdeas ...That's actually a real word...that's a real word! What!?

How about just jumping in one of the many freshly dug tunnels nearby which are probably still partially filled with water.

thats funny!

Mt. Doom: I am the most badass volcano! Mt. Vesusius: Shut up little b#tch!

At this point in the show I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about the balrog because they used to be lovers and after spurning its love it went to the heart of the mountain to become a balrog supremacist incel bitterly awaiting the day for its revenge on all dwarves made manifest

Queen of entitlement got me🤣🤣🤣

Leader of the Entitlement Army

"Faileesi" oh my god wheeze

Hahaha!

that is a very good plot device based in the mithril origin but i can bet that the writers lack of talent dont use it

I always thought it just made its home there eons ago when its master was gone. And the mining action of the dwarves awoke him from his slumber. Like a personified lava stream, an evil spirit of fire of sorts, something you would imagine if you were not educated in science like we are today and thus had a very mythical world view. Like stone giants could be just a mystical imagined personification of the force of nature up in the mountains in a storm. Simple, but elegant, to describe the awe of nature the inhabitants of Middle Earth must have felt in this fictional past times. Amazon show, instead, is full of cheap McGuffins.

"Volcanoes should hurt - let's change that" "Galadriel shouldn't be this stupid and bitchy - let's change that" "Harfoot's suck. Let's make them Hobbits and not nomadic" "Man, plot armour is boring - let's change that" "People travel too fast - let's change that"

I would have believed this story over whatever the avatar of Pain showrunner thinks is worth defending by calling the rest of us 'patently evil'. I also think I would watch it cause that's how you make a venomous character evolve into a gracious one. Great idea, my friend!

In the actual canon the elves behaved similar to what is betrayed here in the show. What the show fails to do is show why they don’t care about the evil, and are behaving this way. In the canon they were sick of war, and destruction, because of how brutal and horrific the war against melkor was. Once melkor was defeated they knew any evil left could never be equal to melkor the strongest god lluvutar created by far. So they were sick of war, and just wanted to enjoy the peace. This was the attitude of most of the elves. They didn’t necessarily want to return to the west they wanted to finally have peace in middle earth. Because we as viewers view Sauron as a great threat we forget Sauron is a minor inconvenience compared to melkor. Some Tolkien lore expert can break down the why, but in the story we go with melkor being the first bad guy with valar fighting against him, than he goes to middle earth, and pours his power into middle earth, and nerfs himself, then valar leave it to the elves, Maiar to deal with, but in the end the finally intervene and get rid of melkor, and then Sauron comes along, and Maiar help a little but it’s the elves and men who are left to deal with him, but after he loses the ring and is nerfed the elves leave the men to deal with Sauron well helping in small ways, and than after Sauron is defeated. The final bad guy is Saruman, and it’s left entirely up to the hobbits to defeat him. Now by my logic it would seem logical that the valar should have defeated melkor from the start, but they left the elves to fight him to grow character. Than it would seem logical the Maia should have defeated Sauron, but they leave it to the elves (when he was at full power) than the humans after he lost the ring and was nerfed (so they grow character). Than the men who were literally just saved by the hobbits again leave the hobbits to win back the shire and defeat a nerfed Maia (to grow character). At any point in time there was always a good guy who could have easily defeated the evil/bad guy in middle earth, but all the powerful good guys always had the view that it needed to be a fair fight, and the good guys opposing the bad needed to be just barely strong enough to win.

@@jamesdecost6009 I appreciate the details about the lore. It sounds like it’s fairly realistic to how people really react to conflicts outside of their domain essentially. For example, there’s probably conflicts happening right now in another country that a larger country could end immediately. But, people generally don’t want to get involved. Sometimes the people in the conflict also don’t want outsiders interfering either. Leaders sometimes make the call to not have outsiders help solely because of wanting to retain their image. Or they don’t fully trust outsiders. Etc. With the hobbits for example, at least in the films, the reason why they had to be the ones to destroy the ring was because no one else could be trusted. Unfortunately with the ROP show runners, they’ve literally said that the message in their show is going to be about everyone overcoming all differences-basically everyone trusting one another. Which probably isn’t a good idea considering this is a prequel. And we know that in the future that trust isn’t there. Essentially they’re aiming for utopia. But, that’s actually I think the opposite of Tolkien’s story, from what I’ve heard. Other people have told me that the beginning of the world basically it was peaceful but got corrupted. And basically that the corruption gets worse over time. Wars, conflicts over time breaking trust, etc. Of course there’s probably times where the trust is mended and there’s peace but overall everyone’s history has more complications as time goes on. That’s my guess on the lore of Tolkien’s world based on what I’ve heard.

You can see the Mt. St-Helen eruption on youtube and it looks smaller than what we saw in RoP. People at 25 miles died from it and it was like a 7 megaton explosion. They should be all dead. That show is garbage.

They should have stuck to the original story.

Also even with that awesome argument they could still keep the same storyline because the dwarf king could just laugh and tell him that they are more than capable of defending themselves without the elves - which might not be true, but between elves and dwarfs dwarfs seem to be the more militaristic proud people, so being told to his face that he needs protection could be quite an insult for the king

Different writers for different episodes never bothering to read each other scripts )))

@@letsplaysvonaja1714 Of course, the result might very well be the same. But Elrond not bringing up his best argument blew my mind.

Also contradicts what he said in ep 1.

They just needed a reason to take not-sauron to Lindon.

I guess that at the moment they'll reveal us that he is Sauron we'll learn that he hurted himself to be taking to the Elf...🤔

@@tun0fun That's why they didn't ask Arondir directions to his home, which must be a lot closer.

One moment he is so injured that he needs ‘Elvish medicine’ and next scene he is off on horseback to 100s of miles away

Does mt doom give heat as basically morgoth's butthole? How do you forge and melt rings there? If it isn't hot why did the pyroclastic flow harm anything? How did the leaf set on fire near the balrog?

remember, #SaurGuyladriel is not a woman, a woman is human, SaurGuyladriel is an elf, an elf female, thus She must be declared She-Elf or Strong Female, get it right people....🧝‍♀️🤯

Definitely better than the writing of this show, but unfortunately SoM is also non-canon, there are lots of variations to the actual lore. At least those aren't terrible.

But she's not six-foot-five with a booming voice. Or do you mean "Sauron"?

Like an incells they like so much

In Judeo-Christianity evil is not a separate entity that needs to be specifically created for it to exist. Evil is simply the negation of good, or rather, the lack of good. Lack of love, lack of respect, lack of humility, lack of honesty, et cetera. Once good things exist, and they have free will, they can simply opt to not to manifest the qualities they were granted. (Notice that things like anger, hatred or jealousy are not inherently evil in Judeo-Christianity. There is righteous anger, you ought to hate evil, and God is jealous about us.) That said, God knew even before He created anything, that many of the beings He would create would turn to evil, and that even when presented with the option of forgivance, many of them wouldn't turn away from evil. So God created the universe and the mankind so that He would have to save them (or the willing among them) by dying for them. This means that the universe was created as a great stage, where God would profess His love for His creatures by committing the greatest possible act of love for them, in order to convince them to love Him back. This act of passionate love is only necessary and only possible because the fall into evil inevitably happened. So yes, God knew in advance what His creatures would do, but it was still the in the free will of those creatures to do it. God just planned around it to a point where the inevitability of evil leads the story of existance to its most glorious possible variant: the fact that we were created out of love to be redeemed with self-sacrificing love, so that we would fall in love with our creator willingly.

She made this.