The Alt-Right Playbook: Mainstreaming

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Innuendo Studios

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6 жыл бұрын

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sources:
The Overton Window: • How Trump makes extrem...
the primary resource for the Alt-Right's hijacking of the news and social media is Media Manipulation and Disinformation Online by Alice Marwick and Rebecca Lewis: datasociety.net/output/media-...
buy Delany's memoir, The Motion of Light in Water, here: www.amazon.com/Motion-Light-W...
1/3 of pro-Trump tweets in 2016 were bots: www.cbc.ca/news/world/twitter-...
prevalence of sockpuppet accounts: nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017...
sockpuppets try to discredit Black feminists: www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthi...
echo parentheses: nymag.com/selectall/2016/06/un...
Milo Yiannopoulos fans shoot progressives at his speech: www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...
Richard Spencer claims to have quit public speaking due to backlash from progressives: boingboing.net/2018/03/17/hor...
neo-nazis chant "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville: • Video
Alt-Righter gives interview wearing Nazi death's head pin: www.miaminewtimes.com/video/ne...
neo-nazi fires gun at Black man during Charlottesville march, police do nothing: • As White Nationalist i...
NYT profiles: www.theroot.com/the-new-york-...
Milo threatening to out immigrants: www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...
white student union hoax started by Stormfront: www.snopes.com/news/2015/11/2...
planting false or misleading news in small outlets and watching it "trade up the chain" to national news: observer.com/2016/10/exclusive...

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@Patricia_Taxxon
@Patricia_Taxxon 6 жыл бұрын
i am in support of science fiction bears
@danielbelkin4652
@danielbelkin4652 6 жыл бұрын
If you weren't I'd be worried
@anxez
@anxez 6 жыл бұрын
Somehow I'm not surprised Eric. Not surprised at all.
@drewgenel5185
@drewgenel5185 6 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of was VanderMeer’s Borne
@brian3634
@brian3634 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I just discovered both of your channels in the last few days, crazy seeing you guys in the same place. I loved your takedown video of PJW’s views on modern art.
@WraithMagus
@WraithMagus 6 жыл бұрын
Science fiction bears are great! They get cybernetics and lasers and can maul a dumpster in less time tha... oh, wait, we're talking about different things, aren't we?
@iamtheV0RTEX
@iamtheV0RTEX 6 жыл бұрын
I really like "we will not let this be normal." Simply saying "This is not normal" seems like denial, and saying "this should not be normal" is a statement of preference, but "we will not let this be normal" is a statement with power and intent. It is transformative language at its best.
@ArchNME
@ArchNME 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't you want it to be normal though?
@briankoontz1
@briankoontz1 6 жыл бұрын
Normal precedes such things as legal rights, as smoking pot became "normal" and then proceeded to a process of legalization. So making fascism normal is a conclusive step toward official political power.
@mistahsusan2650
@mistahsusan2650 6 жыл бұрын
bump
@fergochan
@fergochan 6 жыл бұрын
What do you even mean by a "white country" anyway, and why should I, a white person, care if there are any left or not? Is the fear supposed to be that if white people become a minority they will be treated the way minorities are currently treated? Because either that's an admission that minorities are currently treated poorly or it shouldn't be a worry at all. Otherwise what's the fear? As for white people an cultures, they're not disappearing any time in the foreseeable future, even in the unlikely event that "white countries" were to disappear. I mean, obviously those cultures will change over time, but they'll do that anyway. Take someone from London in 1450 and drop them into London in 1850 and they'd barely recognise the culture (and barely speak the language). I really don't get what the big deal is supposed to be.
@chloem6609
@chloem6609 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of things that are normal today was opposed by the mainstream a few decades ago. "We will not let this be normal" is a statement that holds absolutely zero weight on its own.
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 5 жыл бұрын
Think of how twisted your values have to be where a world of modern day hippies at worst living in peace is the most horrifying thing you can imagine.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 3 жыл бұрын
@karma for karens 12tone dunking on Shen Bapiro's "hot take" about rap is one of the most glorious things on this site.
@MinscFromBaldursGate92
@MinscFromBaldursGate92 2 жыл бұрын
Found the alt-right troll.
@Julianna.Domina
@Julianna.Domina 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhjsuskhs See, here's the flaw in your BS "white genocide" logic: Wouldn't that also "pollute" the other races too? Your genetic lineage would continue anyway, since your genes are getting passed down. The flaw, aside from it just being obvious bullshit, racist, and clearly not happening.
@streetsdisciple0014
@streetsdisciple0014 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhjsuskhs don’t conflate the philosophy of social Darwinism for evolution. If you’re going to perpetuate “ethnic purity”, at least make an effort to understand these basic distinctions.
@streetsdisciple0014
@streetsdisciple0014 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhjsuskhs social Darwinism is a philosophy pushed by Herbert Spencer who misconstrued Darwinian evolution which was later discredited and disavowed by Darwin. This philosophy was used by conservatives to advocate and promote variations of specific ideologies including ethnic purity, ethnic cleansing via imperialism and so forth based on supposed observations found in nature. Evolution on the other hand explains the biodiversity of life on earth with no definitive end goal or purpose in general and in the context of ethnic purity. If you’re going to peddle ethnic purity, stick to religion.
@epocalypsefilms
@epocalypsefilms 6 жыл бұрын
"We will not let this be normal"... I like that
@Alternate1234ify
@Alternate1234ify 4 жыл бұрын
@Eric Tortora Pato Not very tolerant, though.
@ganondorfchampin
@ganondorfchampin 4 жыл бұрын
@Alternate1234ifySo you're saying tolerating intolerance is?
@mdivmapperandgamer1138
@mdivmapperandgamer1138 4 жыл бұрын
@@ganondorfchampin It's the tolerance paradox
@Pingwn
@Pingwn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alternate1234ify we should NOT be tolerent to harmful ideologies, unsurprisingly if we do it will only make us less tolerat toward the people who actually need our tolerance, the people who their very existence is deemed morally wrong by those ideologies. So, no, this is NOT normal.
@TheSundayShooter
@TheSundayShooter 5 ай бұрын
We will not let race riots be normal nor the perpetrators of assault be sanctified
@Ed-hc5iz
@Ed-hc5iz 4 жыл бұрын
Still looking for a haircut that suits me and has not been co-opted by nazis :(
@ladyfalcia
@ladyfalcia 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, they don't get to have nice things, take it back and wear it how you like.
@JoeWisniewski
@JoeWisniewski 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally, Fred Perry and Hawaiian shirts. I'm not letting them take that away from me. It's not normal. I'm not letting them make it a symbol.
@disastermidi1990
@disastermidi1990 3 жыл бұрын
Are you bald?
@sunset6920
@sunset6920 3 жыл бұрын
A mullet, fellow comrade
@_ikako_
@_ikako_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ladyfalcia same with pepe. he's just a frog bro, why can't we just take him back in our memes as a happy frog, like his creator intended. sure, some people use him in a shitty and racist way, but they also use tiki torches, and you don't see them being declared hate symbols. hell, it's already happening on twitch with emotes.
@swagnostic132
@swagnostic132 6 жыл бұрын
8:39 Holy shit, that dude is from my city. He was in a band that was pretty okay, but he eventually took over the page and attempted to make "white nationalist metal". He and his brother were arrested alongside a friend for shooting at a black man in florida after a richard spencer rally. It was wild to see so many in our town defending him as not being racist while many of us in the music scene were very aware of his proclivities. He was in charlottesville along with a few other musicians in our area that ive been made aware of. Someone appearing friendly and being awful in private is nothing new. Ted bundy SEEMED nice and manson was very charming. Dont let talent and skill pasted with a smile distract from the evil some may harbor.
@LeoMidori
@LeoMidori 6 жыл бұрын
Spread the word; danger can be closer to home than a lot of people think.
@swagnostic132
@swagnostic132 6 жыл бұрын
Leo Howler theres alot more of him here than most of us openly talk about despite knowing. Its embarassing to even say so. I know guys whovs lost gigs and spots over it, so its not totally invisible i suppose.
@chewthepillow4479
@chewthepillow4479 5 жыл бұрын
florida man
@maggie5590
@maggie5590 2 жыл бұрын
and the thing is that he isn't even trying to seem 'normal' in public. the public perception has become so skewed that his nazi behavior is just seen as something that is a little less than 'normal' rather than completely fucking unacceptable
@apolloandwarrior_3229
@apolloandwarrior_3229 Жыл бұрын
Thus is why I support pirating in some cases
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 6 жыл бұрын
For a tolerant society to exist, the one thing that society cannot tolerate is intolerance.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 6 жыл бұрын
The tolerance paradox
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 6 жыл бұрын
Z. Zorost No, the problem is that the intolerant will take advantage of the tolerant and the tolerant society will be gone. Look up the Paradox of Tolerance if you're curious.
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 6 жыл бұрын
Z. Zorost that's not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that for a society too strive to accept all manner of races and peoples the one thing that society cannot accept is inherent unacceptance of races and peoples. Whether it's "competitive" or not isn't up for debate and honestly I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Edit: After rereading your comment, I want to be clear that the "ideologies" at play here are accepting people for their inherent worth and not accepting certain people due to some inherent factor. There is no other debate going on in what I'm saying. If that's what you're talking about than yes, for a society dedicated to accepting all people, the one kind of people that society cannot accept are people that aren't accepting of other people. Does that rewording help?
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 6 жыл бұрын
Z. Zorost Dude, that's literally why it's called a paradox. Did you read the Wikipedia article?
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 6 жыл бұрын
Z. Zorost No, it's not like that at all what you just did is a logical fallacy, and can I just take a step back and clarify that you are arguing for the right of people to be hurtful and prejudiced towards others? Because that is the only way you could possibly have a problem with this.
@sighmon5640
@sighmon5640 3 жыл бұрын
on the topic of people posting things 'ironically' i would like to point out a phenomenon: you ever see a term of slang, think its super weird, and start using it jokingly, only to suddenly find it a solidified part of your vocabulary that you use intentionally for some meaning? (sometimes that meaning is not what it was originally for, but the point is that you're still using it) its like that. if someone intentionally spreads those ideas via memes under the guise of it being ironic, if they convince others to do it too, the others might spread it to others in a similar fashion, and there's a chance it becomes ingrained in them. in this way, these ideas can become like a virus, thought-germs spreading from person to person, not everyone getting really effected by it, but some, and the asymptomatic infectees spreading it further. the word 'viral' can have both meanings apply at once sometimes
@Julianna.Domina
@Julianna.Domina 2 жыл бұрын
To expand on your "thought germs" thought germ, check out CGPGrey's video "This Video Will Make You Angry." he coined that term in that video (iirc) and explains in more depth how they spread, change, and evolve.
@festethephule7553
@festethephule7553 2 жыл бұрын
The word you're looking for is 'meme.' I'm not joking, that's literally what memetics is all about. Somewhat ironically, the word meme itself seems to have gone through a similar process.
@JessCArtist
@JessCArtist 2 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said, "Memes - The DNA of the Soul!"
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 Жыл бұрын
@@JessCArtist Jack - "THE MEMES!!"
@elipticalecliptic481
@elipticalecliptic481 Жыл бұрын
@@festethephule7553 and it really sucks that that's what memes are because people will *immediately* stop taking the conversation seriously when hearing it
@katja3957
@katja3957 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the kpop community has taken up the strategy of spamming reactionary hashtags with fancams
@OneLikeOthers
@OneLikeOthers 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Am i missing something that i should be aware of?
@chondrya942
@chondrya942 3 жыл бұрын
@@OneLikeOthers iirc, at some point during the George Floyd Protests some people tried to get #whitelivesmatter and other reactionary hashtags trending but a lot of kpop stans spammed them with fancams to make them unusable
@mfriz5317
@mfriz5317 3 жыл бұрын
@@OneLikeOthers whenever there’s a racist # a bunch of kpop stans meme it with kpop fancams(kpop groups dancing) to drown out the #. It’s honestly really funny
@alext3811
@alext3811 3 жыл бұрын
@@mfriz5317 The only good thing those people do.
@eloiseae
@eloiseae 3 жыл бұрын
@@mfriz5317 How does it actually work ? If they use the hashtag, isn't it supposed to get trenting ?
@vissersixty-nine6246
@vissersixty-nine6246 2 жыл бұрын
just a quick note: the ironic usage of "triggered" was ALWAYS shitty and ableist. "triggered" is specifically a word used by neurodivergent people (particularly people w/ PTSD) to describe extreme and disproportionate negative responses to innocuous stimuli (like having a panic attack b/c the lights in your room are too bright, or having a flashback b/c someone touched you). the joking use of that term has systemically stripped language away from neurodivergent communities, which is unfortunately very common. it's almost the opposite of this... people keep on taking our language and using it as a meme. it's happened with "gaslight" too. it is very sucks :(
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, it sucks that "tirggered" and "meltdown" was used for twatter spats by political discourse journalist helped in watering down PTSD for having bad day and it went mainstream
@aswfabt
@aswfabt 2 жыл бұрын
What are you? A Twitter bot? Why do you speak like an SJW automaton?
@kindredspirit9703
@kindredspirit9703 2 жыл бұрын
The issue you speak of seems very powerful and baked into how language spreads. Repetition is a way that people remember things better, so for a word to reach widespread usage it will be repeated constantly, and if the majority of the people using the word are not part of the group that it was meant to cater to then the original definition will slide away. In other words, it seems inevitable that minority language once mainstreamed will not be as helpful for the minority group
@catiso1057
@catiso1057 2 жыл бұрын
i agree! just to clarify tho neurodivergent specifically refers to neurodevelopmental conditions (autism, adhd, and dyslexia for example) not mental illness or personality disorders most of the time
@deagle2yadome696
@deagle2yadome696 Жыл бұрын
triggered lol
@InnuendoStudios
@InnuendoStudios 6 жыл бұрын
Note: If you buy Sargon's line that showing up early to take the front two rows of a panel and stare down the woman he's been leading a dogpile on for several years isn't harassment, you are being played. No, I will not argue about this with you in the comments.
@WindupAtheist
@WindupAtheist 6 жыл бұрын
Who even gives a fuck about Sarkeesian at this point? Have you seen her view counts? She's been over for a while.
@Narratorway
@Narratorway 6 жыл бұрын
Then don't. You're wrong either way.
@MrSpleenface
@MrSpleenface 6 жыл бұрын
"And you'll have to clarify that: Anything you say, no matter how insightful or well researched, is, ultimately, your opinion, and invite people to expand or push back on your ideas" Except the idea that sitting around doing nothing is harassment. That one is true for sure, no debate possible.
@Miacisjaune
@Miacisjaune 6 жыл бұрын
fite me in the comments IS ill prove you that Anita is bad first lets talk about how she scammed millions
@presticles8365
@presticles8365 6 жыл бұрын
as whole i do enjoy your videos even if i dont agree with you but if you consider what Sargon did harassment then you need to reevaluate your personal definition of the word. "take down videos" only work if you can prove the persons argument wrong . "fashy" hair cuts are not a thing. those are only a couple of things i disagreed. but it was still a good well made video
@corhydrae3238
@corhydrae3238 3 жыл бұрын
Halfway into the video, I was so engrossed by happy messages about the progress of the lgbt movement that it hit me like a truck when you started changing the topic to the alt-right again. I was like "oh yeah, totally forgot that I clicked on a video about the douchebags who think I don't deserve rights"
@deagle2yadome696
@deagle2yadome696 Жыл бұрын
@@seagulfs4123 you good bro?
@ruste9565
@ruste9565 11 ай бұрын
You mean like the islamists that throw homosexuals from rooftops? How do you think you’d have it in Catholic LatAm, West Africa, the Turkic countries, Russia, the Caribbean where they still have “buggery laws” and especially Dar-Al-Islam? I could keep going on and on, but you don’t know how good you have had it in the states. Keep on fighting windmills 😂🤦‍♂️
@Dontworryaboutit961
@Dontworryaboutit961 7 ай бұрын
Same
@AshBashVids
@AshBashVids 5 жыл бұрын
Videos like these helped me get away from the far-right's greasy clutches before it was too late. I thank you!
@Nayhan123
@Nayhan123 4 жыл бұрын
dont blindly follow this guy, though he does try a bit to show both sides he is still very biased. there are many little things and connotations that he chooses to use which can change your opinion on things, also you got 138 likes thought id tell you
@Foodude
@Foodude 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nayhan123 Yeah his bias definitely shows through a lot even though he won't admit it. What he labels as alt-right is really lenient
@schibleh531
@schibleh531 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nayhan123 Where did you get the idea that he's following him blindly as if this channel was gospel? You're hard projecting bro.
@Nayhan123
@Nayhan123 4 жыл бұрын
@@schibleh531 i didnt, i just said not to
@nickhelder212
@nickhelder212 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah dude!!! I'm glad you got away from it, good for you
@ricochet4674
@ricochet4674 Жыл бұрын
1:10 I kinda forgot queer was a slur tbh. I'm glad we reclaimed that one.
@Smerpyderp
@Smerpyderp Жыл бұрын
Me too. It’s a a lot easier to say than “El-Jee-Bee-Tee-Cue-I-Aye-Plus.” I’d rather people call me Queer than a long acronym.
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 11 ай бұрын
@@Smerpyderp But the Alphabet Mafia?😨😨
@timekeeper2538
@timekeeper2538 5 жыл бұрын
I've been saying "human rights are non-negotiable" all this time, but *this is not normal* is a pretty good companion to that.
@makelgrax
@makelgrax 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, it doesn't really work though, from my experience most pyramidal-society-advocates (most of the right) either want the opposite to be true, or they say that no such thing as a human right should exist in the first place, so that saying becomes "an opinion" instead of "a fact", and it loses almost all the power it has.
@makelgrax
@makelgrax 2 жыл бұрын
Also, KZfaq won't let me edit on mobile, I was talking about the "Human rights are non-negotiable" phrase. The other one holds up intent much, much better!
@Ajc-ni3xn
@Ajc-ni3xn 3 жыл бұрын
Something that upsets me is seeing how many people follow Shadman and are just ok with him wearing the SS uniform, that’s fucking insane, peak normalization.
@verbulent_flow6229
@verbulent_flow6229 3 жыл бұрын
TRUE
@ciaranhayes3212
@ciaranhayes3212 3 жыл бұрын
I take more issue with the Loli hentai but that’s also bad
@amysteriousstranger1221
@amysteriousstranger1221 3 жыл бұрын
@@ciaranhayes3212 “Loki hentai” I hate that mental image
@ciaranhayes3212
@ciaranhayes3212 3 жыл бұрын
@@amysteriousstranger1221 that and what he actually does is terrifying
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but the actual porn Shadman draws is enough for me to stay away. And that's saying something since I've seen some crazy shit online.
@bobbyhunsaker8233
@bobbyhunsaker8233 6 жыл бұрын
Well, it didn't take too many Sargons for Carl's apologists to show up in force.
@ShehuStebe
@ShehuStebe 5 жыл бұрын
"b-b-but he's a leftist!"
@Alternate1234ify
@Alternate1234ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShehuStebe Sargon is a classic liberal in the English tradition.
@ShehuStebe
@ShehuStebe 4 жыл бұрын
Alternate1234ify saying your a classical liberal doesn’t make you a leftist nor does it make you a liberal. A “classical liberal” is just a conservative that wants to be special.
@drewreich9274
@drewreich9274 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alternate1234ify okay say what he is supposed to be but we will judge him by his platform. He's no christopher hitchens
@Alternate1234ify
@Alternate1234ify 4 жыл бұрын
@@drewreich9274 Christopher Hitchens' views were highly influenced by Marxism, as his brother Peter has said. That's not classical liberalism.
@ThoughtSlime
@ThoughtSlime 6 жыл бұрын
This video is extremely normal.
@kristophergray9826
@kristophergray9826 6 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are too
@penzildude111
@penzildude111 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if by mainstreaming he means how not even a single news outlet in all of the us has talked positively about trump. Maybe he should call this series pandering news outlet tactics?
@jffryh
@jffryh 6 жыл бұрын
penzildude111 has fox not talked positively about trump?
@penzildude111
@penzildude111 6 жыл бұрын
Let me clarify: that was hyperbole. MOST news outlets speak negatively about Trump. Some forms of media even present crowds of people who are against him. If you have any other prominent american outlet that speaks about Trump positively; now's your chance to present them. I'm sure there's plenty but I'm also totally positive they'd be massively overshadowed by the negativity. Huffington Post MSNBC CNN NBC CBS ABC HBO C Span Along with every single talk show host within american soil. (That's hyperbole too, FYI.) You also got Urban Dictionary which has Anti-Trump definitions taking the spotlight practically every other day or more often. (Not a news station but a very prominent source of information for us yung'uns) But that's not the point here. Trump won the election so there was indeed a massive crowd of people that supported him. The point is that the media used similar tactics outlined in this very video to make Trump supporters look smaller. There's even news outlets spreading flat-out lies about Trump just to make him look bad like when they presented fictional info from a satirical article in a puertorican comedy website about how Trump plans to "abolish puertorican citizenship" as a hard fact, without citing the source to further their slimy political agenda. Even I myself have personally seen the bias against Trump recently. When he threw paper towels at people over here at Puerto Rico the media presented it as if it were him mocking us. When that actually wasn't the case. The news over here was very adamant about presenting two things together and nothing else. Trump throwing paper towels at people and Trump justifiably saying that the hurricane itself wasn't a big deal. Which it wasn't. If it weren't for the massive, well-known, and much hated severe incompetence of our government, we would have been fine. There was even a case where a man successfully repaired a telephone line on his own and government workers cut the fucking cables in response. Keep in mind guys that this isn't about defending Trump. If people use tactics like these to sway political opinion; you're only giving him more power by making yourselves look bad. I've seen this show on youtube various times before. I think this is a great series. That being said, I still find that Innuendo Studios presenting these tactics as "exclusive to the alt-right" as intellectually dishonest. He should be more clear about this in future videos.
@penzildude111
@penzildude111 6 жыл бұрын
*also the entirety of hollywood. I think that one may not even be hyperbole at this point.
@Miacisjaune
@Miacisjaune 6 жыл бұрын
Cue a hundred comments about Sargon not _technically_ harassing Anita, like that's the major thing to comment on from this video.
@johnnycooke7492
@johnnycooke7492 6 жыл бұрын
Miacisjaune to be fair most of the stuff in this video is hard to disagree with. So that point kinda stuck out.
@edfreak9001
@edfreak9001 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep the conversation off the topics they have no defense against, after all
@SSJPunk
@SSJPunk 6 жыл бұрын
A hundred comments that could have been avoided by not having something objectively false in the video.
@ryanmurray5973
@ryanmurray5973 6 жыл бұрын
IT is a technicality. People make mistakes. I really like this channel, but I don't hold it as some beacon of perfection. I view this brilliant channel as an awesome person explaining politics. No one can get everything right.
@InnuendoStudios
@InnuendoStudios 6 жыл бұрын
No, I stand by what I said. Showing up early to have you and your friends take up the front two rows of a person you have been spreading disinformation about online for years and have tacitly encouraged and directly profited from the harassment of is blatant intimidation tactics. Anyone buying his "we're just quietly sitting her" line is getting played.
@ronaldlinhardt1555
@ronaldlinhardt1555 6 жыл бұрын
I love your Alt-Right Playbook series. The waiting period between each video feels so long but honestly they're worth it. Keep making great content. You're great.
@dubsdubson2231
@dubsdubson2231 6 жыл бұрын
If you love these series, I highly recommend "Alt-Right Politics" podcast
@MurderousJohnny
@MurderousJohnny 6 жыл бұрын
That is kinda scary...his videos are kinda bad source for learning rhetoric. He makes some big mistakes. I suggest you go else where for this kind of knowledge.
@9skyman945
@9skyman945 5 жыл бұрын
@@MurderousJohnny If these videos are a bad source, I'd like to see you prove that with unbiased evidence.
@lol_no_man
@lol_no_man 4 жыл бұрын
Most people love it when someone tongue's their anus unapologetically, Ronald, but if half of what he said was accurate I couldn't find that half lol.
@mc-ps-playa5569
@mc-ps-playa5569 4 жыл бұрын
MurderousJohnny I find it extremely interesting that tons of people keep saying “He’s wrong and is making mistakes” but NEVER provide an example of what he got wrong and why it’s wrong. Makes ya think
@Umbrage0
@Umbrage0 Жыл бұрын
"Delaney was a bear" _shows pic of Delaney_ Me, a straight dude "fuck yea he was"
@the_cosmic_alexolotl2282
@the_cosmic_alexolotl2282 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing this shit happen right before my eyes is terrifying in a way I can’t truly put into words.
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 5 жыл бұрын
Unless you are a sociopath. Then it's the greatest time to be living in if you enjoy watching the world burn. The trolls won. We are living in their utopia.
@bingbongjoel6581
@bingbongjoel6581 4 жыл бұрын
the_cosmic_alexolotl It’s depressingly entertaining, though.
@americantoastman7296
@americantoastman7296 4 жыл бұрын
@The Ravenous Lamppost im so sorry for you. all i can really hope for is that deep down you know youre talking shit.
@Ricky-iy4ik
@Ricky-iy4ik 3 жыл бұрын
MLBlue30 what if I’m like that but I’m nice to people and shit? Does that make me a socialopath
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 11 ай бұрын
We were warned in 2000 (when Al Gore got voted out of Presidency due to nepotism) but 2016 removed the lid. The unpunished Facists and Nazi around us don't feel pressured to hide anymore, because Trump made the visible. It's terrifying how many roaches were hidden under the centralism rock
@EmotionsNeverLie
@EmotionsNeverLie 3 жыл бұрын
Little did you know "this is not normal" would become the mantra for 2020.
@Snarfindorf
@Snarfindorf 6 жыл бұрын
*puts on black suit, tie and combs pristine hair* I'm not a Nazi, but immigrants and black people...
@anitarecount5081
@anitarecount5081 6 жыл бұрын
Remove the word “pristine” and you just described trump perfectly
@tommcdonald4014
@tommcdonald4014 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Tello: Why? Are you an identitarian of some sort to assign traits to races rather than individuals? I thought folks who think immigration is somehow an existential problem also thought that it's individuals who succeed not groups. Unless you meant that it's unrealistic to think white folks can be as good at most things as black folks. Then I'd have to agree with you. ;-)
@ZoidbergForPresident
@ZoidbergForPresident 6 жыл бұрын
And "hair" too.
@Korgull6669
@Korgull6669 6 жыл бұрын
NormandyMedia: Filme, Fames, KZfaq und anderes "Proceeds to call themselfes "classic liberals"" Of course, with the way most of them act, those calling themselves "classical liberals" would have spent most of the French Revolution whining about property damage, and hoping for a victory of the counter-revolutionaries and reactionaries of Europe over the liberal revolutionaries of France and its allies. These so-called "classical liberals" are more Burke than they are Paine.
@Ryan-tc2el
@Ryan-tc2el 6 жыл бұрын
The people who fought Nazis would have said the same thing.
@xander2698
@xander2698 4 жыл бұрын
god i fucking love everything about this. "They want to draw attention to themselves by any means necessary, up to and including violence [...] There is a man in a suit ready to distance himself from it." honestly 10/10
@AhNoWiC
@AhNoWiC 6 жыл бұрын
It's strange to me as someone who initially followed Sargon while moving away from religion how radicalized he has become. Like, I don't know if I'd consider what he did to Sarkesian harassment after listening to his public statement, but he clearly has been moving further and further right since the election of Trump. What was once a channel about intellectual discussion of atheistic principle that occasionally skewed further right than most other members of that community now actively supports the Trump administration, something that he initially claimed to be doing ironically. I think you're spot on with your points about trending towards normalcy and intentional subterfuge in order to make radical beliefs more palatable. Excellent video Ian.
@OGAMIS
@OGAMIS 6 жыл бұрын
Until I found youtube I used to have high and mighty thoughts that athiests were just inherently more rational and ethical people. Watching the kind of videos produced by what I might term 'youtube athiests' was a big help in shaking that notion and deflating my head a little bit. To date I don't think I've found one who isn't also kind of a dick or a major reactionary or an 'inequality doesn't exist' nut, sadly.
@LeshaAnn
@LeshaAnn 5 жыл бұрын
Ogamis Cult of Dusty, maybe?
@maty1229
@maty1229 5 жыл бұрын
@@OGAMIS You'd like Hugo & Jake, they're one of the few youtube atheists not to jump onto the anti-sjw bandwagon and they talk about politics quite often.
@steveholmes11
@steveholmes11 5 жыл бұрын
A shitlord in a suit is still a shitlord. And what they really love is a seam of fashionable, but outsider, thought that they can monetize.
@clare2385
@clare2385 5 жыл бұрын
If you like atheist KZfaqrs, check out Darkmatter2525. The animation is weird, but the content is golden.
@shanegrele
@shanegrele 5 жыл бұрын
10:30 and people say "antifa accomplishes nothing" 😂
@Casey-cy6ph
@Casey-cy6ph 3 жыл бұрын
They do stuff, riot and attack anyone who is anything slightly right of them
@KyuubiDragon4
@KyuubiDragon4 3 жыл бұрын
Care to give a sourced example?
@Casey-cy6ph
@Casey-cy6ph 3 жыл бұрын
@@KyuubiDragon4 for what?
@KyuubiDragon4
@KyuubiDragon4 3 жыл бұрын
@@Casey-cy6ph Your claim. Can I get an example from you, with source, of antifa "rioting and attacking anyone who is anything slightly right of them"?
@CHARLOSdotTV
@CHARLOSdotTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@KyuubiDragon4 hasn't antifa recently rioted in front of a book store that was selling a book by andy neo?
@MxPokirby
@MxPokirby 2 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to make it clear for anyone who might return to this video, straight and queer are not opposites. There are many people who are queer *and* straight, such as straight trans people, and being straight does not "undermine" or "lessen" their queerness. In many cases, being straight helps to _define_ their queerness.
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get it. You mean someone assigned one sex at birth then transforming to other to not be gay anymore?
@aswfabt
@aswfabt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wolcik3000 Probably lol
@lowkeydemodest8381
@lowkeydemodest8381 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it,care to elaborate plz?
@elimaloney2025
@elimaloney2025 Жыл бұрын
@@Wolcik3000 its less not wanting to be gay, and more realizing somewhere along the way that you were wrong. for example, a trans man who thought he was a lesbian, but came out as a man and is now attracted to women. he is still straight, but also queer because that falls into a wider category. all gay people are queer, but not all queer people are gay.
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 Жыл бұрын
@@elimaloney2025 ok, so by your example: Biologically born woman was a lesbian, but then after the operation becomes heterosexual man because the sexual preference doesn't change but the sex. Do they make working penises for woman changing sex now?
@LeoFieTv
@LeoFieTv 2 жыл бұрын
There's this tumblr story about how in ancient Rome one senator or something proposed that all slaves should wear a white armbind so they can be immediately identified as a slave. It was shut down because the nobles, correctly, assumed that as soon as the slaves knew how many they actually were, they would revolt. I don't know if it's true, but it speaks to what Delany described. It keeps marginalized groups isolated. Also I wonder if there ever were visual signifiers of slavery in history like we often see them in pop culture, collars, burn marks and such. I have to look that up.
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
This makes no sense as slaves were divided into class based on owner's wealth - some slaves could be better of than free man and thus some people would sell themselves to slavery to repay loans. Slave is a job, not a class.
@aswfabt
@aswfabt 2 жыл бұрын
Marginalised groups (i.e. people who are not normal white people)
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@aswfabt in some African countries the white people are marginalized groups - so it all depends on the in-group preference - the people behind the walls are always white walkers - wildlings at best
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Жыл бұрын
@@Wolcik3000 By "some African countries", you meant Zimbabwe, eh?
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 Жыл бұрын
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 im suprised that i made these comments 3-4 months ago, cause I dont remember which countries I meant and I care less about politics now due economical crisis coming forward in my life than foreign affairs
@xingcat
@xingcat 6 жыл бұрын
I took a writing class from Chip Delaney back in my UMass Amherst days. He's one of the best.
@fropps1
@fropps1 6 жыл бұрын
I read that as wrestling and I'm now wondering just what could have been.
@CERTAIND00M
@CERTAIND00M 6 жыл бұрын
Jelly af
@thesxex
@thesxex 6 жыл бұрын
always nice to see another umass alum out in the wild
@deathwish_ASR
@deathwish_ASR 6 жыл бұрын
I read Stars in My Pockets Like Grains of Sand in a sci-fi course at Vanderbilt and fell in love with it. Later on in college, I took a writing class with Randall Kenan, another gay black writer who was visiting from UNC I believe. Later on in the course, I told him about how much I loved Stars, and Randall told me that he personally knew Chip and that they were good friends. Kind of blew my mind but I guess it makes sense that two gay black men in academia would know each other. LOL
@joncarroll2040
@joncarroll2040 Жыл бұрын
I took a short story class with him at SUNY Buffalo (also in Amherst oddly enough). I'm not a huge fan of his fiction but the way he talks about other people's work is mind altering.
@jamesmason3734
@jamesmason3734 6 жыл бұрын
Man, Delaney's experience kind of feels like my experience now with ableism, Being both neruodivergent/mentally ill I have to deal with a lot of language and stories that depicts people like me in a very negative light. Even from progressive people. (Seriously like 90% of progressives don't seem to see anything wrong with serial killers being depicted as mentally ill/disabled and also uses terms like soci*path and psych*path even though both of those terms have been taken out of the DSM V.)
@briankoontz1
@briankoontz1 6 жыл бұрын
The world is changing far more rapidly than our understanding of it. All humans of every political stripe are profoundly ignorant. I wouldn't worry too much about cognitive science being terrible, it's the least of our current problems.
@jamesmason3734
@jamesmason3734 6 жыл бұрын
It's actually more of a social problem, Society could easily accommodate mentally disabled/ill people but they don't, if anything they force mentally disabled/ill people to accommodate for neurotypicals (People who don't have any mental illness/disability.) Just look up all the horrible shit autism speaks do to force autistic people to act "Normal."
@mothdoc1909
@mothdoc1909 4 жыл бұрын
To add to the sociopath/psychopath thing, they never were what people saw them as. They're not heartless monsters like some seem to suggest (cough cough, Kati mortan cough) they can be just as good of people as us. It's a mental disorder you get help for and learn to cope with. For more info watch dr. Todd grande.
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a role play character with ASPD who locks up serial killers, none of whom are mentally ill.
@kerisajune
@kerisajune 2 жыл бұрын
@@mothdoc1909 That's the ideal default approach to people with those (and similar) disorders. As in, we should judge people by their behavior, and not treat someone like a leper if we find out they have that kind of diagnosis. But it's also true that socio/psychopathy, and stuff like narcissism or borderline personality disorder, unfortunately tend to lead people to destructive behaviors. Also, they're less likely to be interested in getting help. They're not mental illnesses in the same way schizophrenia or anxiety are. But yeah, none of that means it's okay to prejudge anyone
@AnnNightNoxana
@AnnNightNoxana 6 жыл бұрын
Here are my two cents. Even though I don't live in America and my interest in politics is limited to observations, there is a lot of positive power in your essays. It seems like you are doing KZfaq a great service by providing so much insightful, liberal content that isn't very aggressive in the conveyance of its message. I can't really support you on Patreon but every time a video from your channel pops up, I'm there to watch it instantly and it makes my horizons broaden. Please keep making more.
@andresarancio6696
@andresarancio6696 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to pretty much say this exact thing. So um, upvote.
@seir323
@seir323 6 жыл бұрын
Liked for the same reason. I'm broke af, and can't contribute to any of the channels I frequent, but yours is so, so, so important. Please, keep sharing your thoughts. I thought the part at the end about "This is Not Normal" was brilliant. Because truthfully, it's becoming glaringly apparent that in some places, in some people's warped hearts, and in others' broken bones, it IS normal. But that doesn't make it right, doesn't mean it SHOULD be normal, or what America on the whole stands for. "This is not what should be normal" is what people mean, and I want to make it so. Your videos help.
@thatwouldbeillogical
@thatwouldbeillogical 6 жыл бұрын
I find the channel tends to over generalize. It paints a picture of the right wing based on certain people and sort of implies that those people represent the right wing as a whole. It applies this definition of "alt right" broadly and misrepresents a lot of arguments of the right. I mean every right wing point presented in this video series is a bad argument, and I get that's the point, but the video completely ignores any good arguments that are made for the same points, thus painting a biased picture of the right wing.
@goneinaflash2429
@goneinaflash2429 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not broke but I'm saving for a new computer :). Then college
@QuikVidGuy
@QuikVidGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Jerk Jerkington it's like you only read the title
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 6 жыл бұрын
So many popular youtubers are getting “redpilled” and most of them are to dumb to know. So sad.
@jonathannetherton6727
@jonathannetherton6727 4 жыл бұрын
As hateful to the outside as the alt-right are, they are VERY good at fostering a sense of community and belonging to those who join them; it's one of their core strengths and why they are so good at on-boarding.
@VoxAsteri
@VoxAsteri 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathannetherton6727 Exactly, I think that's one of their biggest strengths.
@stuflikethis
@stuflikethis 3 жыл бұрын
In comparison, the left eats their own
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuflikethis I think Ian brought this up in "They Go Low, We Go High". It's hard for liberal and leftist politicians to talk about their actual campaign because of how sectarian some people on the left can be, and we don't really have a sense of loyalty like the right does.
@TheBonkleFox
@TheBonkleFox 2 жыл бұрын
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 So what's the solution then? How are we supposed to stop the alt-right from destroying everyone's lives when we can't stop fighting ourselves?
@Pfhorrest
@Pfhorrest 6 жыл бұрын
"Normal" had normative (no coincidence), i.e. prescriptive, connotations of "right" long before it had the merely descriptive connotations of "common, typical, or average", so saying "this is not normal" doesn't have to be a mere observation or a statement of intent. Saying "this is not normal" means, at its base, "this is wrong". That's why calling something "abnormal" is insulting, even if that thing is actually uncommon or atypical. Because "normal" doesn't just mean common or typical; it means "right". So when you call something not normal, you're saying it's not right. Which is a true thing to say about Nazis.
@Pfhorrest
@Pfhorrest 6 жыл бұрын
what?
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhjsuskhs Sorry, for a second there I thought you were trying to say something in a language.
@MadeleineSwannSurreal
@MadeleineSwannSurreal 6 жыл бұрын
Good mantra, I'll bear it in mind. Some alt right person went to my latest video and threatened to cut my throat and watch me bleed out. It left me a bit fed up. EDIT: for the chap who deleted his comment in this thread claiming that I lied, I reported the alt righter and the comment in question was removed, along with one containing my full address
@johnblunt6693
@johnblunt6693 6 жыл бұрын
Ignore him (As in the person who threatened you)
@MadeleineSwannSurreal
@MadeleineSwannSurreal 6 жыл бұрын
Hezekiah McDonald thanks! I will
@runawaysparklers622
@runawaysparklers622 6 жыл бұрын
The delete comment and block buttons can be your best friends when it comes to dealing with them.
@MadeleineSwannSurreal
@MadeleineSwannSurreal 6 жыл бұрын
Ashley certainly can
@foodice11
@foodice11 6 жыл бұрын
Just ignore the threatening ones.
@HolyShitSticks8D
@HolyShitSticks8D 6 жыл бұрын
The way you arm people with knowledge gives me hope for the future
@sagarroy8679
@sagarroy8679 3 жыл бұрын
The more I watch this the more I’m like “Fuck it. If they’re going to play dirty, I’m just going to join antifa.”
@icyr0bin-794
@icyr0bin-794 3 жыл бұрын
antifa is based
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
well, the point of the video is for people to be more racialized to the left so its working
@witherschat
@witherschat 10 ай бұрын
There's a video on how "you go high, we go low" works, and I think that we should start playing the game they're playing if we want a chance at not losing.
@dostawcagazu
@dostawcagazu 7 ай бұрын
​@@witherschatbut are you aware that this is basiclly escalating the conflict? The answer is not "beat nazis to death" but more "deradicilize the right". Because remember what is one of the most important mantras the radical right has: They are coming for us
@siriuslywastaken
@siriuslywastaken 2 жыл бұрын
as a gay polyamorous trans girl I'm glad we're still gaining visibility. I do want a lot more talk about polyamory and how it works and when it works well and when it doesn't
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
Whats polyamory? Does gay trans girl mean you were wrongly assigned as male and now after transition prefer woman?
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynamesnotshanekid813 im must be a dummy cause i dont get it
@Karl_der_Genosse
@Karl_der_Genosse 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynamesnotshanekid813 Huh? He just needs an honest explanation. You know, not everyone is as informed as we are on these topics. Burst your bubble, most people's day to day life doesn't include questions of gender and sexuality. That's why we need to inform them.
@Karl_der_Genosse
@Karl_der_Genosse 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wolcik3000 Polyamoury means they are in intimate emotional relationships with multiple partners. As for the second: When you are trans, you ALWAYS identify with your preferred or rather real gender when not specifically meaning you falsely at birth assigned sex. At least thats from my experience. So, they are probably a trans woman attracted to other women.
@Wolcik3000
@Wolcik3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karl_der_Genosse i wonder why it was decided to switch from poligamy to polyamorous - I guess because it removes stable relationship and focuses on the romantic begining without goal of funcionalilty - just fun easy to market I still get confused about input and output values of transition mechanics
@Fionacle
@Fionacle 10 ай бұрын
Dear god, this video is five years old
@gking407
@gking407 4 жыл бұрын
We need to protect our young children from hateful ideas!! Recently I’ve been going back and forth on YT with some racist who sounds about 14yo or so, and it definitely seems the racists like to target young kids up to college age. It’s much harder to sell a different idea of normal to adults who have firmly established definitions of what normal is (for better or worse).
@oliverc.karstark1950
@oliverc.karstark1950 3 жыл бұрын
yes, there are studies on this. extremist groups tend to target younger audiences, providing them purpose and an outlet for the aggression teenagers undeniably build up during puberty. there is a ted talk by an ex-neo-nazi somewhere where he talks about this. and despite giving him as an example, i do want to stress that i mean "extremists" in a neutral sense, not giving the term any (political) direction ON PURPOSE. many extremist groups focus on teenagers as their recruitment target group.
@DillaDonuts
@DillaDonuts 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@spacebassist
@spacebassist 6 ай бұрын
@@oliverc.karstark1950 stating the obvious but young people's minds are extremely malleable, adulthood is where it gets hard. they can still come back but it's extremely depressing seeing someone you know repeating these things with no grasp on the endpoint of those beliefs
@davidzachmeyer1957
@davidzachmeyer1957 5 жыл бұрын
I chuckle every time I see the fascists at one of their whine-ins. Their flags are always creased, clearly never having been used before. Like they bought them at Waffenmart just before the wawwy.
@ValoTheBrute
@ValoTheBrute 4 жыл бұрын
Also its so hillarious when they call everyone "snowflakes" and "triggered" yet they throw a hissy fit when a female protagonist is put in a game
@tristenm1526
@tristenm1526 4 жыл бұрын
"Waffenmart" You, sir, are a wordsmith.
@stoneofpower6192
@stoneofpower6192 3 жыл бұрын
"Waffenmart." Holy shit, I need to start using that.
@chukyuniqul
@chukyuniqul 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who feels a group defined by their intrinsic characteristics just existing is oppressing them-and even moreso, if they think the individuals of that group do so-is a whingy twatmongrel. I just kinda realized this after someone got really narky because I liked a waifu they didn't in a game. Mfer was genuinely debating my tastes and subjective opinions on a fucking imaginary woman, and it kinda dawned on me: this is it. This is what arguing against people based on pointless distinctions looks like.
@joelcarson4602
@joelcarson4602 10 ай бұрын
I aways wondered where the heck they bought those Klan duds. Obviously, it has to be Waffenmart. It's the Reich place to shop.
@ollenadgam
@ollenadgam 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. One thing though: Could you activate community contributions on it? I'm the guy who has been subtitling the Alt-Right Playbook series in Portuguese. Would love to start working on this one. :) Thanks in advance
@richardsilva5110
@richardsilva5110 5 жыл бұрын
Quero te agradecer muito mesmo por que acho que esses vídeos tem tudo a ver com o clima político BR
@danfulk2661
@danfulk2661 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I went pretty far down the KZfaq rabbit hole for about 7 years, and have been clawing my way out for a the past few months
@chexster4420
@chexster4420 3 жыл бұрын
Good, welcome back
@carocaro101
@carocaro101 3 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me when I was like 12. Good for you man, I’m glad you’ve gotten out of there :)
@wondrousparrot2815
@wondrousparrot2815 3 жыл бұрын
@@carocaro101 same, who was it for you?
@icyr0bin-794
@icyr0bin-794 3 жыл бұрын
this is good!! most people who crawl out of the alt right end up never going back and hey, its a lot easier to make friends on the left too
@matthewgilpincom
@matthewgilpincom 3 жыл бұрын
Charlottesville is starting to feel pretty normal in comparison now. But a reminder: This is not normal.
@jamesmorgan9258
@jamesmorgan9258 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I hate Richard Spencer so much.
@jamesmorgan9258
@jamesmorgan9258 6 жыл бұрын
The dude literally shouted heil Trump while doing a Nazi salute. Just because you know how to use the > key on your keyboard doesn't mean you get to ignore basic facts.
@jamesmorgan9258
@jamesmorgan9258 6 жыл бұрын
Okay. It took me a while but I think I understood what you were trying to say here. Spencer doesn't identify as a Nazi and, in fact, is only using the common signifiers of being a Nazi to bait people into calling him a Nazi. Something like that? The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself. He uses Nazi slogans, he marched with the KKK at Charlottesville, and he advocates ethnic cleansing. You don't get to do all that and then just turn around and say, "well I don't feel like a Nazi."
@user-iq3xc5gc1f
@user-iq3xc5gc1f 6 жыл бұрын
James Morgan "The thing about this argument is that I really don't give a shit what Spencer calls himself." Yeah truth has a funny way of being inconvenient don't it lad? Good on you for launching your noble crusade against it.
@jamesmorgan9258
@jamesmorgan9258 6 жыл бұрын
If you heil Trump, march with the KKK, and advocate ethnic cleansing, then you're objectively a Nazi (or at least Nazi-adjacent), regardless of how you feel inside. You don't just get to say a label doesn't apply to you because you don't feel like it does. That's not really how labels work. Isn't the right supposed to be against this Postmodern-Neomarxist abuse of words? Maybe I was misinformed.
@user-iq3xc5gc1f
@user-iq3xc5gc1f 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I forgot how well the KKK got on with National Socialists. You historically illiterate nobber.
@maxkordon
@maxkordon 5 жыл бұрын
I love how pedantic and defensive nazis get
@DaveGrean
@DaveGrean 5 ай бұрын
I was totally the uninformed idiot who assumed that the people who claimed Gamergate was "about journalism" were telling the truth. (Just saw some VERY cringy 5 year old comments of mine here...) I never actually bothered checking Anita's side, and just assumed those KZfaqrs were telling the truth about her (male fragility obviously also played a role in me not being as receptive to her next-wave feminism as I am now). Never having exerienced fame, it was also very easy for me to dismiss all the complaints of harrassment as unlikely and highly exaggerated. We literally laughed off the mentions of death threats because we figured "so some dumb kid sent you 'I will kill you' on the internet; who the hell takes that seriously?" Which seems really fucked up in hindsight, but it's not that we thought the idea that someone would experience this and fear for their life was funny. Maybe others did, but I was laughing because the idea that it could possibly be true legitimately seemed patently absurd to me. I had no ability to conceptualise how women in general get treated online before I immersed myself in feminist narratives and female perspectives (including obviously and most impactfully those of my personal female friends). I've always been naturally predisposed towards social progressivism. I would describe my worldview as a kindergartener in the '90s as rudimentarily leftist in the same fundamental ways that it still is to this day: 1. traditions have no intrinsic value and should be abandoned if they are harmful / 2. hierarchies are an abstraction that does not exist outside of the human mind that invented them (including speciesist hierarchies based on subjective and anthropocentric coneptions of "intelligence"). If even I could get roped into this nonsense merely through a combination of privilege-induced blindness, a motherload of bad faith propaganda, and a good dose of insecurity, then everyone is at risk. It certainly has helped me understand the old adage that "everyone can end up in a cult, not only unintelligent people" which I previously had a hard time accepting
@andresarancio6696
@andresarancio6696 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of "ThisIsNotNormal" being used as a statement of intent
@pendejo6466
@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын
Granting gay people equality and rights was not considered "normal," do we wind the clock back and rescind our progress?
@celinak5062
@celinak5062 6 жыл бұрын
'Everyone else is doing it' Oh the banality of evil
@nullset560
@nullset560 5 жыл бұрын
That's not what that means
@quansinus9941
@quansinus9941 5 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell. The videos of this channel are so extraordinarily good. I struggle quite a lot to follow the theory behind why certain things work and others don't as well as keeping up with popularised terms of dominant discourse techniques, this video in particular is incredibly helpful :)
@rebbecawitt581
@rebbecawitt581 3 жыл бұрын
Oh damn I didn't know about the trans women thing, as I trans woman I thank you very much for educating me.
@icyr0bin-794
@icyr0bin-794 3 жыл бұрын
☺️☺️🤗 TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!
@rebbecawitt581
@rebbecawitt581 3 жыл бұрын
@@icyr0bin-794 TYSM!!!
@icyr0bin-794
@icyr0bin-794 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebbecawitt581 yeah ofc im so sorry abt the shit trans ppl constantly get 😞😞 transphobia will be defeated eventually it’s only a matter of time
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
Which makes it even funnier when you find gay transphobes. Essentially, they hate the very people who allowed them the opportunity to not get beaten to death for coming out. I'm honestly curious if there's an element of self-hatred in those contrary weirdos.
@rebbecawitt581
@rebbecawitt581 2 жыл бұрын
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 well I did some research and the gay rights movement started in the Weimar Republic (pre Nazi Germany). By Jewish doctors and sexologists, so the same goes for antisemitic gay people. This is not to discredit trans women for starting pride, pride was mainly started by trans women and black lesbians.
@jacobdriscoll8276
@jacobdriscoll8276 6 жыл бұрын
"Make yourself newsworthy" is how Civil Rights gained a lot of traction.
@betterlatethannever4536
@betterlatethannever4536 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you've accurately grokked part of the thesis of the video, specifically that the Alt-right is using similar tactics as those used in progressive movements to try to roll back the ground gained by those progressive movements.
@kingofthebis1068
@kingofthebis1068 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob Driscoll Wow getting attention will get you attention!!!! Who knew???
@guaridadelsapo
@guaridadelsapo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Argentina, last Sunday on international pride day, there were many conflicts all across the country, because a few civilians (most of them ex military - wich has a sad background related to a few dictatorships) refuse to let the lgbt community rise their flag (act aprooved by the goverment) because laying down our national flag meant disrespecting it and those who defended it on the Malvinas/Falklands Islands war. I revisit this video because i was hoping to build an argument regarding the fight of the lgbt community on gaining some visibility and the last part of the video, about the fight on what's being normal, really made up my mind.
@ee-yf3ot
@ee-yf3ot 10 ай бұрын
Argentina is *STILL* angry about those islands?
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 5 жыл бұрын
I've had "This Is Not Normal" pasted to the shelf over my desk since before the 2016 election results. Thank you, John Oliver.
@annchovie8748
@annchovie8748 2 жыл бұрын
This is quickly becoming my favorite channel. Nobody is covering how the alt right mind works better than you.
@randomcommenter3819
@randomcommenter3819 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 "but none could get a view of the whole" oh trust me hun I can imagine a few of them were getting a great view of the hole.. im really sorry.
@verbulent_flow6229
@verbulent_flow6229 3 жыл бұрын
ffs man oh well, as long as you're ok with gay people that's ok
@randomcommenter3819
@randomcommenter3819 3 жыл бұрын
@@verbulent_flow6229 lol yeah, everyone is equal and the story is honestly pretty sad but like when there is an opportunity for joke THAT WELL SET UP its difficult to not say it.
@verbulent_flow6229
@verbulent_flow6229 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomcommenter3819 true, true
@fr89k
@fr89k 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the current understanding is, that most "bots" aren't actually bots, but stupid people just have waaaayyy too much time and they're well organized...
@ramywiles
@ramywiles 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as per usual -- and hey, I even got another author to add to my to-read list out of it. Thanks for what you're doing here.
@matthewmcneany
@matthewmcneany 6 жыл бұрын
On the theme of language Babel-17 is amazing.
@Fydeliity
@Fydeliity Жыл бұрын
small thing: i love how you create mini or sub characters and have them reappear in later explanations!
@Maynard0504
@Maynard0504 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've seen a better deconstruction of the alt-right than your videos. crazy good shit. subbed.
@shovelclaws
@shovelclaws 4 жыл бұрын
every time that i come back to this series- which i do a LOT- i always feel like this is the strongest video in presenting its ideas. getting me emotionally charged about the alt-right's evils isn't hard but this video always kind of hits different in a way i feel like none of the other videos in the series do.
@gavmandragon8443
@gavmandragon8443 3 жыл бұрын
I flipped when you said "This is a battle about the definition of normal" because a podcast i work on has an episode about how this idea is everywhere in The Owl House.
@tnttiger3079
@tnttiger3079 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, one episode I'd like to see (Which I don't think has already been done) is why the alt-right really exists, what do they want and why they want it. I sort of feel I already know, but I think it would be super informative for someone like you to put it into words
@brookelever4534
@brookelever4534 6 жыл бұрын
Oh jeez that'd be like an hour and a half long video just to give an intro honestly, it could seriously be a class at college
@ArturoStojanoff
@ArturoStojanoff 6 жыл бұрын
Go to ContraPoints
@user-jq1zr3uf7r
@user-jq1zr3uf7r 6 жыл бұрын
They want to ethnically cleanse america and europe. We will not let them do that!
@tnttiger3079
@tnttiger3079 6 жыл бұрын
I understand THAT, but WHY do they want to do that?
@johntompkins79
@johntompkins79 6 жыл бұрын
In 2012, more white people were born than died in America. That's the first time that has ever happened in this country. Minority populations, meanwhile, are growing. The demographics are changing. Once equality seemed like a lofty goal that we just pursued and spoke to when it was convenient. But now it appears like it's happening (enter Obama) and these young men, their life not turning out the way they thought it would, are not happy about it. So they react against those groups of people whom they feel are to blame for their alleged displacement. Hence the terminology about being "replaced" and wanting things to be great "again." As Danskin points out, these are not a majority of men, but enough to start a movement.
@whetherlyotano4578
@whetherlyotano4578 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so mad they took Pepe
@laughingseal2282
@laughingseal2282 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The creator himself felt sad about it.
@ashe.7945
@ashe.7945 3 жыл бұрын
well there where 3 other guys in the og comics and those dudes were left alone :D
@beastcarleeto707
@beastcarleeto707 3 жыл бұрын
Then let's take Pepe back
@juliennepujol5586
@juliennepujol5586 2 жыл бұрын
Lol some roe v wade troll had mein kampf written in his bio and when I called him out his response was that the left calls everyone a nazi 🤪
@Hannahdabeast
@Hannahdabeast 6 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is, generally, very supportive of the left's goals, is definitely not someone I would consider bigoted or racist, and never has been as far as I can tell. But one thing he's said to me is he doesn't understand why people feel the need to label themselves--like, for instance, the Twitter/Tumblr bio intro that goes: x/x pronouns, list of mental illnesses, sexual orientation, race, random factoid. And at the time I couldn't really articulate why it was important for oppressed and marginalized people to identify themselves like that. It DID seem like pointless identify politics, but I couldn't help but feel like that wasn't all there was to it--surely there was a difference between queer people/poc/disabled people identifying themselves on their blogs and fascist identity politics. This really gives me the language I needed to articulate why that's important. Thank you!
@SaurianSavior
@SaurianSavior 6 жыл бұрын
I strongly disapprove of non-binary pronouns, with the exception of "they". I don't consider listing your mental illnesses at all wrong, unless they are fictitious or self-diagnosed, and sexual preference is entirely personal. My primary objection to the self-identification movement is lack of biological basis, where such a basis is required. I don't think anyone can disagree that asexuality, transexuality, homosexuality have a basis in biology. The point is, these people can call themselves what they want, but if they expect people to ignore biological facts, where they may contradict their self-described identity, they are ridiculous. From my observations, Leftist identity politics is particulate. Since the set of all possible identities are valid, it is important for individuals which identity they are assigned. Right-wing identitarianism is monolithic. It is meant to moderate behavior in a very conformist way. You will get shamed or intimidated by the right wing if you don't toe the line. Lastly, a question: What do you now think about the sort of identity politics on the left? Is it reasonable to demand recognition for a self-made identity? If somebody identified as genderqueer, Is it necessary for their identity to be validated, or is it irrelevant for the general purposes of society?
@JasonMcClainEvolved
@JasonMcClainEvolved 2 жыл бұрын
This whole playlist is well laid out, articulate, and incredible in its depth and scope. Thank you so much for putting out this series. You have laid out a bunch of things I intuitively felt and felt frustrated by, but you illuminate and articulate it. This is brilliant work.
@calicoinz
@calicoinz 5 жыл бұрын
i just wanna say i've been binging your alt-right playbook series and i love your casual but clear tone while talking and i love how concise and PREcise all of your points are. like you hit so many things that have been on the tip of my tongue so long about the alt-right community RIGHT on the head, and have made me realize new things that have been right under my nose about them too. and you talk in such a casual non aggressive but realist and sometimes comical language, that makes it easy to digest even when the topics get very serious. you don't even tone down anything or sugarcoat it, just your sprinkles of jokes that somehow acknowledge the seriousness of the situation / your dry humor. keep it up, i'm looking forward to watching your other videos too!!!
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
Well this aged in a scary fashion, especially considering how violent the rhetoric about a 'new normal' is getting with the alt right. Normalizing humanism is met with death threats.
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuhreaks evidence?
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuhreaks that's not evidence backing up your claims. You're transparently lying
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuhreaks also concern trolling is an impotent ruse
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuhreaks that has nothing to do with this. It's like you're trying to confuse, distract, and exhaust. Why?
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuhreaks false equivalence is an impotent concern troll
@Pompo5
@Pompo5 Жыл бұрын
I am on a re-watch of the alt-right playbook. I remember watching them as they came out and finding them so helpful and interesting, but 4 years later now, coming back and having learned more, i am noticing a lot more detail in the research that had flown over my head the first time around. These videos are really well constructed. Thanks Ian, this is amazing
@craigbrowning9448
@craigbrowning9448 5 жыл бұрын
As a disabled person who was bullied for not being "Normal," I have come to see "Normal" people as a Mokery (such as the Protagonists in TV Commercials and 1950s Centron and Coronet guidance films), and probably do more dubious activities when no one is looking.
@brano13177
@brano13177 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhjsuskhs So lies the white Supremist eugenics adherent.
@FabbrizioPlays
@FabbrizioPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Tolerance is such a sketchy word in general, and the very nature of it is how the alt-right is able to maintain certain appearances. It comes with a built-in goalpost mover. When the left speaks of tolerance, it is talking about a specific type of tolerance. A tolerance of immutable traits, attributes which are intrinsic to the person and which you cannot separate them from. When the alt-right speaks of tolerance, it is also talking about a specific type of tolerance - a tolerance of actions, of conscious choices that people make and which they could ignore at any time they want to, though they absolutely do not want to. The alt-right thrives on using these two definitions of tolerance interchangeably in order to make two wildly different positions appear hypocritical to each other. Are you tolerant, or are you intolerant? Well, I'm tolerant of what any given person needs in their internal life in order to live happily. I'm intolerant of actions which infringe on the ability of another person to idealize themselves as someone they can be happy as. But in the time it takes to stipulate that whole mouthful, the alt-right debater has already hopped to a different topic.
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
I only have respect and tolerance for those who also have them. More accurately, I respect everyone as a human being, but I don't respect anyone as a person unless they respect everyone as a human being.
@Wimikk
@Wimikk 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, but I’m pretty sure “clean-cut philosophy majors” don’t exist.
@kagitsune
@kagitsune 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recontextualization of "this is not normal". I've been grappling with the dual use of the phrase since the election.
@dfmrcv862
@dfmrcv862 4 жыл бұрын
What isnt normal, Naomi?
@AuntAgatha0fullmoon
@AuntAgatha0fullmoon 4 жыл бұрын
Just like to point out, the story that Marsha Johnson and Sylvia Rivera started Stonewall is a myth. They were there, but arrived much later. The actual person who instigated the rebellion was Storme Delarverie, a black butch lesbian, who was being assaulted by the police outside the Stonewall Inn. Of course Johnson and Rivera were incredibly important to the movement and should definitely be remembered as founders, however we really shouldn't mythologize inaccurate history, especially something which occurred only 50 years ago.
@Felixicity
@Felixicity 6 жыл бұрын
I always love when you post another one of these, if only because it always leaves me with a little hope. It's so useful to see both the tactics and ways to handle that on an individual basis. I really appreciate the work you do on these a lot.
@SendyTheEndless
@SendyTheEndless 6 жыл бұрын
Spraying soap into your eyes and having a panic attack is not normal.
@Horny_Fruit_Flies
@Horny_Fruit_Flies 6 жыл бұрын
It is normal.
@DustyMusician
@DustyMusician 6 жыл бұрын
“Help help! I’m having a panic attack!!”
@wastebin996
@wastebin996 6 жыл бұрын
Surfing On Squarewaves cue the brainlet alt righters posting walls of text trying to spin one of the most pathetic things the world has ever seen as anything remotely reasonable or not depressingly stupid I'm not joking here, someone joked about Baked Alaska squirting soap in his eyes in the comments on the new Shaun and Jen video about the alt right rally, and some dumbass posted this multi-page essay ranting about eye wash chemicals and something about the people around Baked Alaska calling it plain old soap because of something to do with not knowing about ingredients or something??? It didn't make much sense and I don't remember most of it but it was pretty funny, shouldn't be too hard to find either.
@S.D.323
@S.D.323 6 ай бұрын
"the master race"
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 10 ай бұрын
8:06 Man they did my boy pepe dirty Take back pepe man
@nicreven
@nicreven 10 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about pepe is that he's a frog BECAUSE that makes him completely racially ambiguous.... because he's a frog.
@S.D.323
@S.D.323 6 ай бұрын
@@nicreven theyre putting chemicals in the water to turn him gay though
@sensiblecryptid4406
@sensiblecryptid4406 3 жыл бұрын
I'm putting the comments on "newest first" wish me luck
@ashe.7945
@ashe.7945 3 жыл бұрын
say hi to the watched for less than ten seconds club for me :D
@wondrousparrot2815
@wondrousparrot2815 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah three comments above you there’s someone who sounds like they stepped out of a time machine from the 1950’s.
@BOYVIRGO666
@BOYVIRGO666 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm i had never thoughtnof how the language of the 50s effected how homosexuals talked about themselves. Thats...deeply interesting. Not something i think id have come up with myself. Thank you.
@MrMarkT007
@MrMarkT007 3 жыл бұрын
Hey so I'm thinking this could be done with syndicalism/labour- especially in rural America. Anyone else in for mainstreaming a worker's revolution? Edit: Gonna put a video on my channel about it in a sec
@verbulent_flow6229
@verbulent_flow6229 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@kn-fm7tq
@kn-fm7tq 3 жыл бұрын
Beat em at their own game
@octaviusroosevelt7355
@octaviusroosevelt7355 2 жыл бұрын
It absolutely can be done; socialist movements in America have been rallying rural communities since the late 19th century. The risk, I would imagine, is how quickly misinformation spreads, especially in places where not many people live. I would think that's why many rural communities are often made up of racist bumpkins.
@DanT10
@DanT10 5 жыл бұрын
I have just discovered Innuendo Studios and I must say your videos rock! Thanks!
@thephilguy1
@thephilguy1 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the clearest explanations of the alt-right phenomenon I've seen out of masses of stuff on the internet. Please keep doing what you're doing.
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 6 жыл бұрын
I like how you start with "Say, for the sake of argument" so much. Memorable.
@LDProductionsClass
@LDProductionsClass 4 жыл бұрын
My only regret is that I have but one like to give to this video.
@ElFlaccoBlanco
@ElFlaccoBlanco 9 ай бұрын
Dude, you are a fuckin’ GENIUS!!!! I can’t believe it’s taken me so long before I found all your videos. Thank you, Bless you and KICK OUT THE JAMS, yo!
@Jest
@Jest 6 жыл бұрын
I subbed because of the Smash content and was pleasantly surprised by these insightful videos. Thanks for all your work!
@MasterGhostf
@MasterGhostf Жыл бұрын
Its why corporations and companies try to limit labor rights knowledge and communication such as leaflets.
@fropps1
@fropps1 6 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to know more about the right, and the alt-right specifically, I highly recommend subscribing to Right Richter. Will Sommer does a fantastic job researching and compiling the various personalities that it cycles through and dogwhistles that the right comes up with. If you really want to have a good idea of where the alt-right 'appeared from' in the purely practical sense, read his stuff. It's great.
@josuebartley7272
@josuebartley7272 6 жыл бұрын
Fropps Would you mind leaving a link, I don't seem to be able to find it for some reason :(
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 6 жыл бұрын
Fropps same. I can't find it
@whoyou2435
@whoyou2435 6 жыл бұрын
www.rightrichter.com/
@josuebartley7272
@josuebartley7272 6 жыл бұрын
Seth West 😊 Thank you
@Ryan-tc2el
@Ryan-tc2el 6 жыл бұрын
Or, hear what about what it is from the alt right themselves. This month, the book A Fair Hearing: The Alt Right in the Words of its Members and Leaders is being published. afairhearing.net/
@ponivi
@ponivi 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind me, just studying up before I start a leftist channel on an alt-tech site.
@evywthingseemsdiffagain921
@evywthingseemsdiffagain921 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the effort you put into this series and the work you do, this content counteracting these horrible ideas must be spread more. Will definitely pass it on, and I like how this isn’t getting me so much as depressed as it used to but rather driven, to work towards something. Thank you, and can’t wait for the next lesson.
@FavoriteKarma
@FavoriteKarma 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting vids like this. As a young man growing up in this whacky world, its really nice to be able to get insight like this in a compact and easy to understand form. You're doing a real service, chief.
@Samuel-su3ny
@Samuel-su3ny 3 жыл бұрын
When he brought up the president tweets being news I had to pause for a second to remember that Trump used to have Twitter💀
@LogicGated
@LogicGated 2 жыл бұрын
I will never get tired of the intro "say for the sake of argument"
@wlee55
@wlee55 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched three of your videos and can't believe how intelligent and incisive your narratives are. I'm unaccustomed to finding this level of quality on KZfaq. I guess I'll have to subscribe so that I can become accustomed. Thank you.
@lumen8341
@lumen8341 6 жыл бұрын
Been so excited to see the next in this series.
@ctravis91
@ctravis91 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is great. Keep up the good work.
@cambreypayne
@cambreypayne 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, as usual. The Alt Right Playbook series is so informative and well set-out, at lot of food for thought, thank you for making it!
@CharletteAndMo
@CharletteAndMo 6 жыл бұрын
The small note of hope at the end really got me. Thanks for this.
@michael.471
@michael.471 3 жыл бұрын
It’s similar to how in 1984 language was being strained out to make thought crime impossible.
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