The anatomy of a UK door frame!

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In this video we’re looking at how UK door frames work. What’s the difference between a door frame, a door liner and door casing? How are door frames put together and what are all the bits called? Well, your wait is finally over.
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Door Frame Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:03 - Quick overview
04:05 - Building a door frame
09:37 - Selecting a door
12:40 - Nominal vs actual sizes
14:18 - Where to put fixings
16:20 - Fitting the jambs
21:30 - Putting it all together
22:30 - Nails vs screws
25:00 - Terminology summary
26:20 - Door lining vs door frame
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@robcarroll6105 10 ай бұрын

Unlike most you tubers you make things seem less intimidating and doable for beginners. That’s an art in itself. Great channel mate

@pompeyjim 10 ай бұрын

I agree with this

@dbmcnaboe 2 ай бұрын

You are the best out there mate. The best I can find for explaining to folks who are interested in building and general practical work without patronising. Simply great.

@williammuir8901 10 ай бұрын

Leg = leg Head = head Stop = check Quirk = reveal Architrave = facing That’s what I call them in my work here in Glasgow and it’s mostly fire doors/frames we make

@MatSmithLondon 3 ай бұрын

Quirk is a reveal, really?

@Supertuber1983 Ай бұрын

Fantastic demo of door line install. Cheers

@deendrewribaudo9365 10 ай бұрын

In U.S. I believe the architrade is called door molding.

@projectrebuild908 10 ай бұрын

That was a fantastic and informative video. Thank you Andy.

@simonhughes9472 10 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the handy summary. I’m installing some door frames tomorrow, so perfect timing. You didn’t mention how much of a gap you should ensure is left below the door. Of course I guess this will be different for various floor types. Many thanks anyway!

@LittleMiska31 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant video, just what I needed as a middle aged lady attempting to fit a door frame. Your explanation of the architrave has given me hope that my project could look quite tidy eventually. Unfortunately I have block on one side and stone on the other to tackle. Not looking forward to that...Will probably be distracted looking at my motorcycle for some time..... But I am determined to win this eventually. The more work I do now, the more motorcycling fun when its warmer.... Thanks for sharing your expertise, much appreciated, : )

@chrisf1600 9 ай бұрын

That was terrific, thanks. Answered all my questions and more !

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 10 ай бұрын

Great video Andy, very useful ,so many name and terms ,we in Wrexham call it a door frame. I do enjoy watching your video's ,can't wait for the next one , Take care mate👍

@Sparda387 10 ай бұрын

A fantastic video as always Andy thanks

@colingoode3702 10 ай бұрын

Another great vid Andy. I've only had to do one door opening so far & that was a fire door from our garage into our kitchen many years ago. I made the liner from MDF because it was a thick breeze block wall (non-load bearing) & then I added the architrave & stops as normal. Also fitted a heavy duty mortice lock with a key on the kitchen side only with intumescent stripping all around the frame & fire rated foam filler to seal up all the gaps. And, I also have one of those old metal Screwfix cases with the old 0500 phone number on it. Screws in mine.

@drcl7429 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Took all the mystery out of it. Changing the direction of a couple of doors from in to out shouldn't be too difficult now.

@ianpearse4480 10 ай бұрын

Nice one Andy, thanks for sharing.

@andyc972 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Andy, informative and entertaining as ever ! Going through all the terminology ends up being like the description of the game of cricket and is mind boggling so it's well worth showing a practical example as you did here ! Glad to see they saved the best timber they had for your door liner (not) shockingly bad - it's amazing what some caulk and a few cats of paint will cover ! Glad to see I'm not the only one with OCD while stacking firewood ! 😉😂

@stewartmcardle8149 10 ай бұрын

Love the Longsands Tynemouth T-shirt Andy....one of our daughter's favourite places !

@ck008uk 2 ай бұрын

Exactly the video I was looking for.

@brandonlee7382 10 ай бұрын

I love how you kept the orginal doors. If the next owner wants new doors then make sure to send them the videos of you doing them up. I really like them and they look modern even though they are old style but old style is becoming more modern

@RB-xg2vz 10 ай бұрын

Once I bought a track saw I now make my own door linings from MDF - it doesn’t warp/shrink and especially in old houses I’ve found the wall thicknesses aren’t always standard sizes due to replastering etc. MDF is also a doddle to paint

@davewright9312 10 ай бұрын

Hope it not a kitchen or bathroom...wait till the MDF gets wet....just ripped some out of a rental been in two years and are knackered sucked up moisture like a sponge replaced them with wood which will likely last fifty years plus...and you get a much much better fix with the hinge screws etc..

@davewright9312 10 ай бұрын

27 x 78 is much easier to remember than 686 X 1981.. I'm sure you don't work out your car fuel economy in miles per 4.54 litres😂..and when you go to the pub do you ask for 568 ml of beer most of us use both systems quite happily

@Monkeh616 10 ай бұрын

@@davewright9312 And 70x200 would be just as easy to remember as 27x78. Or 0.7x2.

@pompeyjim 10 ай бұрын

I fitted loads of door linings when I refurbed my house. One thing I tried on one of them was fixing the hinge side in plumb, then hanging the door with the rest of the lining un fixed so I could then line that up around the door rather than messing about getting it square before hand

@SteS 10 ай бұрын

Same. Much handier this way.

@jimh4072 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, I’m going to try this. I will be renovating my own house soon. 👍

@0001bl 10 ай бұрын

Across the pond - Blocks, reveal, casing, trim, & moulding

@tjdesignproduction2090 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@aidensmobile614 10 ай бұрын

Very good video!

@karencarpenter8275 10 ай бұрын

Great video again. Thanks. Might be a bit of a cheat but I cur 2 pieces of wood slightly wider than the door (c.6mm) and use them between the liner to keep the gap constant and square

@johnthresher259 10 ай бұрын

For me (down here in Essex) a door frame is what an external door fits into and is secured to external brickwork and a door lining is for internal doors and is fixed to an internal brick/block/stud wall.

@tanyaroyredcar 10 ай бұрын

a door frame is essentially a door lining, where the stiles and heads are made from a single timber that have the door stops machined into it in one piece. Yes, your external door frame is a frame but a door 'frame' with a separate door stop is only a door lining. Many older properties have internal door frames with the jamb built in and modern properties have door linings with separate stops. He explained it correctly but for 28mins - wtf.

@johnhandy3483 10 ай бұрын

Love this video, been a long time subscriber. I actually work in the Video Game industry and throughout my career I have made many doors and door frames. This is going to be my go to video to explain to juniors how a door/frame is put together! Also your FAL's bike looks great. Honda Rebel right?

@Graham_Langley 9 ай бұрын

Many thanks for this video. On the list is correcting the door lining on the downstairs loo that isn't square and kicks in at the bottom on the hinge side - thank you builders Martin Grant. Replacement may be the best option when I do all the doors. FWIW here in the soft south the only term I've not heard was 'quirk' and didn't know it had a name.

@michaelmason5459 7 ай бұрын

A tip from my Grandad when you fit door frame with stops included make sure the hinge side is perfectly plumb and solidly attached, then hang door, close door then you can adjust the opposite side of frame to fit the closed door which will line the frame with the door before you attach attach it to the wall.Brilliant on old wonky walls.

@deeeirl 10 ай бұрын

On the imperial vs metric issue; over here in Ireland we're metric mainly but similar to the UK we would measure height and weight in feet, inches and stone along with our plumbing still being stuck in imperial sizing (and even differs from the 60/70s UK sizing to boot)

@TheChipmunk2008 10 ай бұрын

That surprises me that your plumbing is imperial... maybe an american connection?

@deeeirl 10 ай бұрын

@@TheChipmunk2008 More a hangover from the UK I think really as we used Imperial too but they changed to metric in the 60s/70s and for whatever reason our plumbing stayed in Imperial since.

@ogribiker8535 10 ай бұрын

@@TheChipmunk2008 Ireland only got it's independence from the UK in 1919, hence why it has an imperial hangover!.

@TheChipmunk2008 10 ай бұрын

@@deeeirl That makes sense... our 1/2" changed to 15mm which (because the imperial is measured on inside diameter and metric outside) looks so dang close it can cause confusion... but the olives on compression fittings will often leak

@normanboyes4983 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do this Andy.😀👍

@lotsofspoons 10 ай бұрын

Top video!

@Martin37vg 10 ай бұрын

I was sure I had seen you use 2nd fix nailer which i would have used for stops and architrave . Those brads looked heavy gauge . poss. just on camera . Another thing I would have used a long level to determine which side to add my 2mm packer.. Good job , very neat and tidy. Never had the need to form double quirk but very interesting .

@stevebosun7410 10 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, another informative video. Thank you. A problem I've encountered is the linings are not always flat/straight, so you have to keep this in mind when checking for plumb and compensate with the packing. Also, how quiet do you need a bog to be? Or maybe you need to shield the utility room from the occasional berloosh.

@Brown969 10 ай бұрын

Never thought to trace the stop with a pencil and then open the door and fit the stops. Nice one. 👍👍

@paigeb1318 10 ай бұрын

My son used the term "door jamb" in his spelling sentences, and his teacher sent his paper back with the word "jamb" crossed out and replaced with "jam"*. Thanks for setting everyone straight with your awesome lesson; I really enjoyed it! 😁 (*We home school now, by the way.) PS. Our corners are mitered here, too. CA, USA We call the architrave "molding". 🙂

@adgeebike9173 10 ай бұрын

Moulding here.

@LostWhits 10 ай бұрын

Don't think I'd want to be eating door jam.

@PANTYCELYN 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for this instructional. Do i assume correctly that there will be 5mm quirks (reveals) on both sides of your frame?

@muldfox 10 ай бұрын

Nice!

@Joe90V 10 ай бұрын

The 'metric' measurements of doors - I learnt all metric construction theory in 1973, the 1981, 686, 762 etc are imprinted on my brain. I still have my hand written 'best books' for reference :)

@serkles8597 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome videos. This one is on point as I need to re-hang and replace some doors at home. Anybody got any thoughts on a good place to get new doors? I would like to get something solid wood but don't want to get a lemon, the £64 pine doors Wicks does looked ok until I started reading about all the people having them warp a few months after fitting.

@Bigbluevwvan 10 ай бұрын

See if jeld-wen doors do what you want i only fit those now

@thorley1983 2 ай бұрын

mine has a lining instead of a casing as i found out after i started chiseling. So now i need to figure out the easiest way to cut it all back level so i can fit a new lining. hopefully without having the remove the jambs.

@tstube818 3 ай бұрын

Great video! What’s was your structural opening for the height ?

@rmorrison8820 10 ай бұрын

Architraves in Canada are known as casing. We are metric except for the size of lumber and plumbing, that is still imperial. Residential construction drawings are imperial commercial are normally metric.

@leszek1444 10 ай бұрын

I like simplicity of that system

@robthewaywardwoodworker9956 10 ай бұрын

Interesting, Andy. We call the "architrave" our casing, unless it's a fancier trim over the head which then the top piece of casing may be referred to as an architrave.

@tamasveingartner4976 6 ай бұрын

when refurbishing a house including plastering and new door frames and doors, would you install the door frames first and the plastering second or the plastering first?

@dunch1988 10 ай бұрын

I'm in Scotland, what I was taught was that a lining is up to 25mm thick and the components are fitted loose, a frame is 30mm+ thick and the head is fixed to the legs and "casing" isn't a terminology we use, we just call it a rebated frame.

@DannyBoycustom 12 күн бұрын

Could you offer some advice. My house the wall is 4.5cm thick and the structural wood that im able to attach the door lining too is only 2 ish cm thick. So when drilling the lining to the structure will a single line of screws be sufficient and not create a wobble ?

@MegaRandomJackass 10 ай бұрын

Hi mate how much do you charge for panelling to be done on the staircase ?

@sylviagreybe672 10 ай бұрын

Are architraves just called trim in the US?

@SteveMonk1956 10 ай бұрын

Interesting video Andy, thank you. I am still old school and prefer imperial measurements, metric to me is like going abroad and thinking in English before speaking in Spanish, French or Greek, I think in feet and inches and convert to metric if I have to, but prefer to measure in imperial. But I guess as my generation move on, the country will eventually become more metric orientated. Having said that, when I was young I was an electrician and even the cables had just converted to metric, 1mm 2.5mm etc and yet I think the common screws that held switches and sockets to the walls were 4ba ? funny old world. 🙂

@VintageStuff 10 ай бұрын

In the US, the architrave is technically called "casing" (and sometimes called trim), and the quirk is called "reveal".

@JohnComeOnMan 10 ай бұрын

Pre-hung doors are the way to go for some time now.

@dunch1988 10 ай бұрын

We call the architrive "facings" in Scotland

@negotiableaffections 10 ай бұрын

Sorry Andy, but...'door kit'? That looked like two jambs & a head [notched to fit] and the rest a bundle of free firewood. You did a great job cleaning it all up to make an 'alf decent' doorway! lol

@scaffyman406 9 ай бұрын

Stops in my ( Victorian / Edwardian) house are full width of the frame , which is a neater finish?

@peterthebricky 10 ай бұрын

When I was house bashing door frames were what us brickies built in and door linings the chippies

@Tensquaremetreworkshop 10 ай бұрын

When I built my house 40 years ago, I did not want architraves. Was told I had to have them. Ten years ago, I moved to a 60 year old house- that does not have architraves. There is a plaster framing strip that allows this to be done. But carpenters hate the idea, because the fit has to be much better.... Also the frame has to be fitted before plastering. One of the things the architect had insisted on, along with lift off hinges (great) and wooden treads that mean you are not trying to match different thicknesses of floor covering in the middle of the door. Amazing that we are still building houses the way the romans did (brick/block walls, with a tiled roof on timber rafters)- 2000 years with little progress. Compare with road transport or aircraft- changed beyond recognition in less that 100 years...

@RB-xg2vz 10 ай бұрын

This is like post traumatic therapy - I live in an old house and decided to replace 3 x old painted doors with new finished ones…nightmare of a job. None of the door linings were square, the door stops were built into the linings so you couldn’t just remove them. And cos the new doors are finished you could only remove material off the top and bottom not the sides…so I ended up having to plane, sand the door linings to fit the new doors…3 days later I finished the job

@Monkeh616 10 ай бұрын

Ahh, imperial vs metric. It's basically impossible to just switch - sure, we could just do 700x2000mm (70x200cm! ahh, rational unit systems) doors, but then everyone needing a replacement is in trouble, and nobody wants to stock two different systems. As for the all-metric tape, they're great for most things (I love mine, and I actually took a box of them across the pond a little while back because people wanted them), but the imperial bits aren't entirely redundant - if you take a look at any dual marked tape (5m and above anyway), you'll find they highlight 16" intervals and, and this one is fun, 19.2" intervals - 8ft/5. These are still important, because as many sheet materials (ply, OSB, some plasterboard) are still nominally imperial for the same reasons as doors, you can quickly find yourself in trouble if you put up framework with metric spacing. Never getting away from this mess in my lifetime..

@robertgeiger7026 10 ай бұрын

Probably an architect is the best one to ask. Perferably a Ph.D. & not a PE (professional engineer). USA

@cliveburnett6796 2 ай бұрын

it call casing or molding in the usa

@Bigbluevwvan 10 ай бұрын

I have always called them door casings but the quality over the last few years has fallen round by me and the cost has gone up so now i select nice 5"x 2" and just make my own, as for doors i fit jeld-wen as you can get solid fill which are great for sound deadening.

@seanmcquinn1985 10 ай бұрын

All of the stops in my house are large and go all the way through to the Quirk on the opposite side. We in West Yorkshire use the same terminology ad you North Easterners. 😅

@Hollegripchannel 10 ай бұрын

Nice work, but….😂 …. But I Always (and teach apprentices) to fit the stops after the latch and handle. Much easier to then fit the stops to the door.

@Hollegripchannel 10 ай бұрын

If I’m fitting new like yourself . I normally level the hinge leg and fit the door. And move the lining to match the door perfectly. 👍 house is looking great by the way Andy

@peterthebricky 10 ай бұрын

Banana shaped wood from wicks I'm shocked

@davidroth7586 10 ай бұрын

We say The door jam is the rebate created when you add stop lats . Basically the hole that the door sits in. We say door a frame generically so describing both.. your father in law is right about the terminology used all different in every town

@troyboy4345 10 ай бұрын

A bit like "Bap" "Roll" "Bread cake" "Stottie" "Bun" and ..... so on ..... 🤣 But they don't sell them in metric, welcome to the UK !

@mikebashford8198 10 ай бұрын

Was just about to say the exact same thing! For people outside the UK, these are words for a small loaf of bread. Along with bin lid, barm, batch and more - changes every 10 miles or so (distance between towns is never metric). And although we don't sell them in metric, we used to sell them by the dozen. Which is normally 12, but 13 in the case of bread ...

@jamblpaints8453 10 ай бұрын

Don't forget cob!

@troyboy4345 10 ай бұрын

@@jamblpaints8453 too many to list mate, but thnx for that, was sat thinking, then decided to just list a few 🤣

@troyboy4345 10 ай бұрын

@@mikebashford8198 Must be very confusing for people outside the UK, but we seem to get it here, love it !

@paulwestlake4278 8 ай бұрын

That’s a seven milk bottle high door, anything but metric.

@joeyd.OEF.2010 10 ай бұрын

Its Door TRIM or Door MOULDING...........Also "FIXINGS" = "FASTENERS" in the U.S.

@joeobrien196 10 ай бұрын

So a quirk shall henceforth be known as a motorbike.

@MatSmithLondon 3 ай бұрын

I think I've been traumatised by the amount of crap quality bits of wood (Wickes etc) that I've tried to turn into door frames. I tend to buy hardwood now and get it planed to perfection in the timber yard. Still it's a ruddy faff getting things perfect. I need some kind of door fitting parrot on my shoulder saying "yeh that's good enough" otherwise I spend inordinate numbers of hours trying to get things even more perfect.

@carpenter284 10 ай бұрын

A door frame has four side's ... A door lining three

@cedarstuff 10 ай бұрын

When is a door not a door? When it's ajar.

@BM-jy6cb 10 ай бұрын

Glad you mentioned Wickes crappy quality - I made that mistake once. Was like they'd just cut up some old crates. Full of really bad knots. Cheap crap. Plus since they started calling their customers who didn't agree with woke ideology bigots they're on my boycott list anyway.

@pinkplonker8776 10 ай бұрын

You can't really define what things are called. I mean, Jordan is now Katie Price 🙂

@jamoco1 10 ай бұрын

If its that bad why fit it ?

@stefanopassiglia 9 ай бұрын

Great video. And OMG the quality of that liner is indeed terrible!

@northeastcorals Ай бұрын

Nominal vs actual size 🤬 this winds me up & really needs sorting out. So many things in all the UK trades have stupidly complicated bullsh@t info in their descriptions, like pipe diameters, weight/volumes of things like "dumpy bags", timber dimensions, the list goes on & on unfortunately & must cause a huge amount of problems & wasted time/money across the UK every year. Manufactures/sellers should be forced to clearly & accurately state all of the actual properties of the finished item being sold.