The Animation of Sonic Games

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Which Sonic games have the best animation? Which have the worst? What makes for good animation in a Sonic game to begin with? Join me on this retrospective journey through ALL of them and let's find out. TAKE MY LEAD, I'LL SET YOU FREE.
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♪ "Tropical Resort" by Hyper Potions
• Hyper Potions - Tropic...
♪ ...and selections from the Sonic game series official soundtracks.
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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Intro
1:35 - Ground Rules
2:39 - Sonic the Hedgehog
6:44 - Sonic the Hedgehog (8-bit)
7:50 - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (8-bit)
8:43 - Sonic the Hedgehog 2
11:01 - Sonic CD
13:50 - Sonic Chaos
14:26 - Sonic the Hedgehog 3
16:42 - Sonic & Knuckles
18:08 - Knuckles' Chaotix
20:36 - What Makes Good Animation in a Sonic Game?
22:43 - Sonic 3D Blast
26:59 - Sonic Adventure
34:09 - Sonic Adventure 2
41:57 - The Mascot Suit Problem
44:26 - Sonic Heroes
48:49 - Shadow the Hedgehog
53:10 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
59:52 - Sonic and the Secret Rings
1:03:37 - Sonic Unleashed
1:09:00 - Sonic and the Black Knight
1:13:02 - Sonic the Hedgehog 4
1:18:42 - Sonic Colors
1:21:29 - Sonic Generations
1:25:01 - Sonic Lost World
1:27:54 - Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
1:31:03 - Sonic Mania
1:34:18 - Sonic Forces
1:37:13 - In Conclusion
1:40:12 - Thoughts for the Future
1:44:00 - Wrapping Up
#Sonic #SonictheHedgehog #animation

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@lowpolysunrise 3 жыл бұрын

"Give him a break. It's his first day, and he's very small." "He is little, and he is sleepy." brilliant.

@Codr_s 3 жыл бұрын

he is sweepy*

@este_marco 3 жыл бұрын

sweepy boi

@KrissieDeathy 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to hearing this quote now.

@AlexMiller-sd5vk Жыл бұрын

Excuse me, Tails is very smol, and he is sweepy

@jameshart2622 10 ай бұрын

That's Dan.

@edwardnygma8533 3 жыл бұрын

"I think I may have bit off too much this time." *checks video length* Holy christ Dan.

@Divivor 3 жыл бұрын

New Frame Plus - The Movie

@TJ-vo3rv 3 жыл бұрын

So excited, tbh.

@jesterssketchbook 3 жыл бұрын

Me: Oh, so which sonic games are you analysing in this? New Frame Plus: Yes

@PipPanoma 3 жыл бұрын

"I've been watching for a while, wonder how far in I am." *28 out of 105 minutes*

@benjaminshields9421 3 жыл бұрын

Literally same

@jwroot Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The person who did Shadow The Hedgehog cinematics was Jeff Fowler, director of the Sonic live action movies.

@liaminator4950 Жыл бұрын

Well id say he was more a team member at blur studios

@ChaossX77 Жыл бұрын

That's more interesting than fun.

@bored4food819 Жыл бұрын

@@ChaossX77 how so? The sonic movie was great!

@thedman1754 Жыл бұрын

I can see the resemblance. Can't wait to see him in action in the third movie.

@nate567987 5 ай бұрын

nice

@toluj3308 Жыл бұрын

1:12:52 Using Sonic Colors' music right before switching to the disaster that was Sonic 4 is definitely one of the best baits I've fallen victim to

@Persac7 Жыл бұрын

@jpanboi_ 10 ай бұрын

It made me forget that sonic 4 existed 💀

@AnObjectAnimator 8 ай бұрын

I like sonic 4

@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Ай бұрын

Sonic 4 has good animation yo, Dan is so wrong.

@alptugraakan7490 Ай бұрын

@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty ep2?kinda.Ep1?hell no.

@RingTeam 3 жыл бұрын

"Sega should really port Sonic Colors to more things" WELL, TAKE A GUESS

@Stag_Z 2 жыл бұрын

He asked, and he received. But still wow- it actually happendc

@gamerdorianyt1 2 жыл бұрын

@@Stag_Z yep

@reggierabbit367 2 жыл бұрын

BOOM IT HAPPENES

@alanovski. 2 жыл бұрын

that was prophetic lmao

@shadwterrancex5765 2 жыл бұрын

LMAO THIS COMMENT KILLED ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@iantkach6640 3 жыл бұрын

"But give him a break, it's his first day, and he's very small" I love it.

@PO1PLE 3 жыл бұрын

"And he yawns, because he is little and he is sweepy."

@swordsmancs 3 жыл бұрын

Tails is _baby_

@seangarry8208 3 күн бұрын

These are words to live by

@slitchey3166 Жыл бұрын

1:42:02 I think sonic prime shows how sonics modern design can actually be animated incredibly well and allow him to convey tons of emotions and expressions. I don't think sonic needs a redesign but I hope the games take some notes from prime on how to animate modern sonic characters well.

@spindash64 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, mostly they just need to make better use of eye expressions. It’s not easy to pull off, but when it’s done well, it looks REALLY good. I think frontiers did a very good job of fixing this in its pre-rendered cutscenes

@sonicthehedgehog23145 Жыл бұрын

@@spindash64 Eye expressions, like actually being able to lower your eyelids halfway, are important.

@lelandatkinson5740 4 ай бұрын

Or using the eye ridges like eyebrows. That also helps with expression. Furthermore, if they did what New Frames points out and shrink their hands and feet a bit, it can make posing even easier.

@brandonthomas6038 2 ай бұрын

Nobody wants to 'redesign' Sonic (or at least I don't want him redesigned), I just wish that they didn't reuse the same 3D models for every Sonic game. The reason Sonic Prime's animations work is partially because they made and rigged their own 3D models for all of the characters. There's a difference between redesigning a character and updating a 3D model.

@sonicthomasgamer Ай бұрын

@@brandonthomas6038maybe because that’s all they got when making a tv show, if they don’t look cool to a kid. It’s a failure. you can’t fall back on whatever gameplay you got like in a video game If they were able, willing or wanted too or even had someone able to make the characters alive it would’ve happened. It’s not the character models. They have the game that they’re barely able to make feel good. Working on Sonic is a disaster Working in Sonic Team, is a death wish

@sneakysileny Жыл бұрын

1:34:07 The fact the animations of Sonic and Eggman's hands tilting the control stick actually conveys the direction of the beans they control is amazing.

@Jake28 Жыл бұрын

mmm beans

@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын

5000 pounds of *_beans_*

@VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 жыл бұрын

_"Animation IS exaggeration"_ - I *love* this quote.

@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын

For anyone who's here late, I'd like to point out that this comment made by Other Video Game Animation Dan was made four hours after the first, which suggests that he came back to rewatch the video just a few hours after watching it the first time. Not that I can blame him, but still.

@VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 жыл бұрын

I had to watch it in chunks, so the first comment was during my first stint, second comment was continuing ;-)

@RakoonCD 3 жыл бұрын

Thats what modern animators/cartoonists need to remember.

@Arlae_Nova 3 жыл бұрын

Your logo looks like a differently stylized new frame plus logo lmao

@VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 жыл бұрын

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

@bocodamondo 3 жыл бұрын

this so called "mascot suit problem" is basically the entire reason why everything about Jump Force characters look awful, they really do look like people wearing a costume pretending to be those jump characters

@kamanira 3 жыл бұрын

It also has a massive issue with its realistic art style. Why give the game a realistic art style when literally nobody, including the OCs that supposedly live in this world, have a remotely realistic art style? It just felt like a terrible design choice. The game already has a case of art style clash thanks to the origins of the characters, why make it worse by attempting to unify them all under a realistic style that not only makes everything look even worse, but also served to do nothing but lower the game's framerate.

@noodlessemcup 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it would have benefited from simpler, cartoony graphics, this would do justice to the characters' animated roots. But instead they gone for a realistic approach that doesn't make any sense since none of those characters came from a photorrealistic artstyle.

@RandomRandy 3 жыл бұрын

Correct 😭

@BlackerSpaniel 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly if the game went for a more Naruto Storm-like style it would've been so much better lowkey

@Lambakaf123-DarknessNodes 3 жыл бұрын

Why the f you just dont do db multiverse animation or a video?

@Whiteythereaper Жыл бұрын

I think I've figured out why Unleashed's running looks way better than previous attempts; it's because they finally realised that at the speed Sonic travels, he won't always have a foot on the ground pushing him forwards, he will spend some time floating very briefly as his front foot comes down and makes contact with the ground and each step will launch him forward a few metres as a time, making his strides larger to cover more ground, almost as if he is skating. Previous games pushed him to have more natural short stride which is where the issues with the sketchy vibrational look where they just ramp the normal animation up in speed instead of giving the faster speed it's own animation set. It also helps that they finally realised that at high speed he should act more like a vehicle than a person, and smoothed out running looks more believable at those speeds. It makes a lot of sense from a physics standpoint, Sonic is moving so fast that his feet are purely pushing him forward, not upwards. He's leaning so far forwards that all momentum is forward, and once he gets up to speed he's much more stable and only moves upwards a little bit.

@thedman1754 Жыл бұрын

1:24:30 Is no one talking about how what he's saying syncs up so well with Sonic's movements? Especially at 1:24:35

@FrancisTheBerd Жыл бұрын

lmao

@IknowPeggy 4 ай бұрын

Wow XD

@firytwig 3 ай бұрын

Holy shit, I never noticed that

@BladeGenesisOFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын

I love how much this guy cares for Tails lmao. "Give this kid a break, it's his first day and he's very smol" "Because he's little and he's sweepy" Adorable.

@bencurry3044 3 жыл бұрын

to be honest, I love tails more than sonic.

@JosephFlores-yn4yi 3 жыл бұрын

@@bencurry3044 tails was adorable in the 2D games

@emilie8356 3 жыл бұрын

My siblings’ reaction when looking at tails was: My brother: who’s that girl? My sister: why is that dude following me!? My other brother: hmph hehe Me: 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

@dannys8014 3 жыл бұрын

Tails is my favorite character in the franchise, and that's sad considering that his character has gone downhill lately. In Sonic Lost World, the writers were able to make Tails unlikeable. HOW, AND WHY?! He's the most likeble character, so why? It's sad, honestly. 😞

@ironzilla2189 3 жыл бұрын

10:35

@user-bu1rm8qf6o 3 жыл бұрын

i only realized halfway through that this is as long as a movie

@BuizelCream 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely well spent though

@user-bu1rm8qf6o 3 жыл бұрын

@@BuizelCream yes

@jg18jg13 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@jackomahony2042 2 жыл бұрын

Its longer than the sonic movie

@marthydoemar8159 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@nintendork64 Жыл бұрын

As a Sonic fan, this was an absolutely fascinating video. Very well articulated, refreshingly neutral, and incredibly informative. I feel like I learned so much about what makes animation work well or poorly. I would love to hear your take on the Sonic Advance trilogy, since the animation there, at least to my eyes, is fantastic.

@ildhjerte7920 Жыл бұрын

"refreshingly neutral" I was thinking of that while watching. I know there's a lot of really passionate people in the fandom, and so I can imagine that having discussions and conversations tackling subjects like this, and finding anything even remotely resembling objectivity within the fandom must be pretty difficult and rare. Sometimes, the perspective of an outsider without personal emotional investment can clear the air a lot.

@somerandomchanneld9754 11 ай бұрын

there are other games on the gamegear and the dreamcast he missed too, like sonic labyrinth and sonic shuffle. the sonic riders spin offs would be nice to see too

@jeridon6081 10 ай бұрын

42:52 Likely someone has already commented this information, but i think a BIG reason they used so much mocap for their cutscene animetions is as you said, efficiency and to save development time, as SA2 had a total development team of a staggeringly low just 11 people, and only a year and a half of development time from start to finish, frankly its a marvel they did so much with the little resources they had to do it with

@jameslavell871 3 жыл бұрын

“He does a little yawn cause he’s little and he’s sweepy” I think I love Tails now.

@dannys8014 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Tails becomes a person's favorite Sonic character once he/she hears those lines.

@blazethegame 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын

@@dannys8014 As a Tails fan since finishing S3&K as him, I am four parallel universes ahead of you all

@lissy_love64 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing gets me more than "he's in a solitary confinement cell and they've been torturing him for months" I fucking die every time

@mattygee6852 3 жыл бұрын

And when he gets out hes like "hey guys hows things? :D"

@sebastienmorin9020 3 жыл бұрын

You know something is wrong when the plot of your Sonic game could be the opening of MGSV: Ground Zeroes

@dominiccsanjay 3 жыл бұрын

“None of this is good, that’s why it’s called war” - Robert E. Le- wait what’s that? That’s actually a quote from KNUCKLES the ECHIDNA? Oh ok sure

@raymondthrone7197 3 жыл бұрын

It's particularly funny since the franchise hadn't done any really edgy moves for a while, what with the plots of Unleashed through Generations being debliberately lighthearted and cartoony and Boom being basically a playable children's television special. Like I could see early 2000s Sonic casually mentioning torture and global war back when Shadow was assassinating the president, but it's a bit overdramatic for 2020s Sonic.

@fazelfarrokhi1998 3 жыл бұрын

No i hate everything about 2010s i want everything from 2000s back even stories that made me relatable delete all 2010s it is good that sonic fans says that a lot that 2000s are good or in polls they always pick 2000s instead of 2010s and fans say 06 is better than forces cuz now forces is the worst mainline sonic game and that is good thing everyone telling sega to do that the youtube videos about why 2000s games are good are coming now is great even a GOOD 06 review that talk about why 06 and 2000s good sonic is not cartoony as you think he is shonen hero for all ages even adult i am so glad characters like rouge 18 and vector 20 and big 18 exist cuz it is not only cartoony and childish

@boi8214 Жыл бұрын

As someone who does go to Disney yearly yes the animation in 06 is mascot central.

@nycwallcrawler8922 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes,another one like me

@artandstuffproductions3640 9 ай бұрын

I feel like it’s important that you mention, SA1 HAD SMEAR FRAMES! And sa2 didn’t? Why?! They looked so good!

@AnarchoTak 4 ай бұрын

SA2 does have smear frames in the Dreamcast version. but they are glitched in the ports. lots of visuals are actually broken in SA2 post Dreamcast. there's a whole video by cybershell comparing the ports issues visually.

@-AirKat- 3 жыл бұрын

“I don’t even like Sonic that much” Yet he played all the Sonic games anyways, like a Sonic fan

@takikat 3 жыл бұрын

no one is a sonic fan by choice, they're just compelled by some evil force

@andreirachko 3 жыл бұрын

Do you by any chance know the track at 1:21:25? I keep searching for OST's from the game but can't find it. Thanks in advance!

@ultanoka 3 жыл бұрын

@@andreirachko Speed Highway Classic

@missingno2401 3 жыл бұрын

@@takikat id say im not a sonic fan but i literally completed sonic 1, 2, 3, cd, rush and im on stardust speedway in mania please help, get a priest

@AllardRT 3 жыл бұрын

@@missingno2401 You don't start calling for a priest until you get to Heroes.

@hykorokana 3 жыл бұрын

Dan is like a teacher who has seen a student with a lot of potential fail so consistently that any passing grade feels like a huge victory

@shittown3billionbutepic 3 жыл бұрын

How is that so accurate

@polybent9748 Жыл бұрын

15:38 I like to think that this gesture means “it’s time to go” because if Sonic’s facing right, he points to the time

@shuizaffre Жыл бұрын

I have watched this video so many times, this guy does such an amazing job explaining the animation process. Also it’s just genuinely so well edited.

@nekodayork9843 Жыл бұрын

Dude how are you describing me in every way?!?! ☺👍

@RiverdudeCovers 3 жыл бұрын

“Expect to see a new Sonic game announcement” Yeah sure...any day now....*cries in a corner silently*

@broucringe1199 3 жыл бұрын

never expected you here

@midnight_horizen8184 3 жыл бұрын

Love your JoJo vids.

@KaitouKaiju 3 жыл бұрын

Sonic Forces 2 was announced this morning!

@midnight_horizen8184 3 жыл бұрын

@@KaitouKaiju bro what

@Atellas 3 жыл бұрын

@@KaitouKaiju bro what

@ryanmuth8954 3 жыл бұрын

I respect this man so much. He’s spent literal years studying a game series he doesn’t even like that much to make a feature length video that is firm, fair, and respectful towards people who might like the games he’s criticizing.

@vizualeater 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, as a sonic fan I was kind of surprised that he doesn't like franchise because of how positive he is in the video! Major props

@craftygamerones9494 3 жыл бұрын

@@vizualeater I like to think he can’t get behind the flaws in animation

@pinkcupcake4717 3 жыл бұрын

@@vizualeater Dan's basically always positive. It's just who he is.

@itsgrey8135 3 жыл бұрын

@@vizualeater he's just giving credit where credit is due

@Terminal_Apotos 2 жыл бұрын

Months*

@ChaoticCooper Жыл бұрын

1:39:54 "The fact that this series probably won't revisit this sort of stylish animation for a long time, if ever, makes me sad." **Insert image of Mercy giving out her hand except it's Sonic Prime**

@aortaplatinum Жыл бұрын

I'd really love to see you analyze the animation in Sonic Frontiers, because there's some REALLY good stuff like the first encounter with Giganto, as well as some really bad stuff like the optional side story conversations that bring to mind SA1, with characters simply interpolating between a few set poses

@spindash64 Жыл бұрын

There’s also the interactions between Sonic and Knuckles, and Sonic and tails, where Sonic’s expressions really shine thru in a way we haven’t really seen before. And Sage, ironically, is also quite expressive feeling

@brovideogaming9447 10 ай бұрын

You ask and you receive. He posted the Frontiers videos.

@aortaplatinum 10 ай бұрын

@@brovideogaming9447 Byeah Instantly added it to my watch later when I saw it in my subfeed

@darkhorse744 7 ай бұрын

The latter is normal in larger games, you'll see that kind of standing around and just talking in like the Witcher. Cus having personalised animations for every chat would make the game's cost balloon. Both time and money-wise.

@Player_UT 2 жыл бұрын

"just because the game is old doesn't mean the animation is bad" A quote almost all gba games live by

@Boooo 2 жыл бұрын

Gba isnt that old though

@TenshiCat 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, since they're handheld games I know they weren't within the scope of this video, but I really would like to hear what Dan thinks of the animation in the Sonic Advance trilogy

@ectofrost 2 жыл бұрын

@@Boooo i hate to tell you but the gba is nearly 21 years old

2 жыл бұрын

@@ectofrost yeah, so not that old Not even middle aged

@ectofrost 2 жыл бұрын

@ but in regards to technology that's considered old.

@aidanboyle7374 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so ready to sit down for New Frame Plus: the Feature Film

@thomasbotwood1521 3 жыл бұрын

This is my content now

@Nugcon 3 жыл бұрын

Sonic Movie 2

@shaderickard3606 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe this is almost 2 hours long!!!?!

@FunZies. 3 жыл бұрын

I know right?! I'm gonna get my dinner, have drink and chill to some good, informative shit. (✿◠‿◠)--b

@gabrote42 3 жыл бұрын

The Castle of Cagliostro

@teapotgamer64 Жыл бұрын

Do I keep coming back to watch this feature length movie. Yes, yes I do. And that says volumes about how friggin awesome Dan (and Carrie) are at making informative but entertaining videos

@zemchia 11 ай бұрын

19:57 This is somewhat what the team was going for when they were designing Mighty. Originally, Sonic was gonna be playable, but this was changed mid-development (for what reason, I don't know). So, they basically redrew all the sprites to be Mighty instead of Sonic.

@Tutorial7a 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, is this THE Sonic video? The one you've been researching for years now? This is going to be AMAZING in every single way. Wait half a moment while I grab some popcorn.

@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын

The best part is, we now know he doesn't need to play any more terrible Sonic games.

@mathunit1 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior "Yes"

@argo9721 3 жыл бұрын

@Oliver Xu “Maybe”

@mjc0961 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior Most of them are terrible, yes. And the handheld ones not featured in this video are also all terrible.

@jordancromwell 3 жыл бұрын

@@timothymclean Not all of them are bad

@onifen4562 3 жыл бұрын

"Of course the world's self-described ultimate life form comes standard with heelys, are you kidding me?? *chefs kiss*" best quote

@TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat 3 жыл бұрын

He coincidentally said that as I read this comment 😅

@adoor3760 8 ай бұрын

Imagine being on sonic team and you make this game all about teamwork and friendship, with a bunch of teams of iconic characters. And then the next game you're told "alright, we're gonna give the one with skates some guns and make him talk to great value lucifer"

@fiend-off-the-grid Жыл бұрын

50:47 wanna know something funny? There actually _is_ a gun that works like this now! It's called the Troy 223, and it is essentially a pump-action AR-15... It came out 9 years after this game XD

@CaptainJZH 5 күн бұрын

So what you're telling me is that gun designers are Sonic fans

@fiend-off-the-grid 5 күн бұрын

@@CaptainJZH I'm certainly not _not_ saying that XD

@DarkJinjo94 2 жыл бұрын

One thing that I've always seen as a missed opportunity is that they never utilize the character's ears to show how they're feeling which is normally a given when animating animal characters. The only instance I can think of is one scene in Heroes where Rouge's ears go droopy when she realized Shadow might be a robot. It's cute, why don't they do that more often?

@magimthings 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@highjumpstudios2384 2 жыл бұрын

That takes effort, why would they put that into a sonic game.

@lennygirlthetruesavvysavag2410 2 жыл бұрын

@@highjumpstudios2384 hi is this Walmarr? I'd like to return the copy of beat the meat 4 super deluxe ultimate knockout with super powerful tabbars featuring joy can controllers. Can you direct me to the deli Isle too while you at it? You look like a fine young whippersnapper

@galfinsp7216 2 жыл бұрын

She also does it in the team dark intro

@diamond556 2 жыл бұрын

"AcTuAlLy" There's another scene where sonic himself uses his ears to express emotions Of course it was made by marza animations (those guys are the best) It's the CG cutscene in sonic unleashed where you meet dark gaia for the first time and sonic gets the dark gaia energy sucked out of him

@bstylesv1 3 жыл бұрын

"He does a little yawn, because he's little, and he's sweepy!" Dawww

@daveynorton 3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@elenasgaard7770 3 жыл бұрын

aaawwwwee ☺️☺️

@riley3087 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love that the Fun Game/Good Animation graphs you showed actually lined up with what you said in the video. Most people would probably throw up some random squiggles.

@HindiTvRay Жыл бұрын

As a game developer, I respect this man so much for working so hard on making a solid, fun, and informative video. He really showed me that animations are more important than I thought they were

@fable23 3 жыл бұрын

Unleashed really does feel like the point where they remembered Sonic is a *cartoon,* and not just in the animation; it feels like the first Sonic game in forever to have a genuinely funny and goofy sense of humor throughout. Words could not express my delight upon getting my first E rank, and being "rewarded" with the game's main theme as performed by a horrifically out-of-tune high school marching band. Just, so silly, and so fun.

@flobarrerav7374 3 жыл бұрын

Maaan hearing that horrible fucking tune always made me laugh at myself

@macenanoro826 3 жыл бұрын

@@flobarrerav7374 "Man I suck, but at least I'm not PAID to be that bad at an instrument! ... Wait."

@mithril5155 3 жыл бұрын

Unleashed is amazing, if only those werehog levels weren't so annoying...

@argo9721 3 жыл бұрын

@@mithril5155 I personally think the werehog levels were awesome! Imo

@Ponch126 3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I loved Unleashed the most out of all the games. Just a slight touch up on the cutscenes between zones, and it would’ve probably been the best animated Sonic game released to date

@Leffrey 2 жыл бұрын

“I don’t even like Sonic” he says, an hour and a half into his analysis of the franchise, giving his experiences with binging all of the games

@ampires5 Жыл бұрын

He said he's on the edge of this fanbase

@aaronhelmsman Жыл бұрын

We call that Egoraptor syndrome

@bruhzy2139 Жыл бұрын

a true sonic fan

@RucaDoo Жыл бұрын

here’s your third monthly reply

@thefastcommenter7774 Жыл бұрын

The dude likes Sonic. He's just ashamed to admit it since Sonic has a toxic fanbase/bad track record. No way I would make a 1hr+ video on a character I don't like.

@raydiiradius 7 ай бұрын

Another detail I noticed, is that on the boost on Sonic Generations, his legs bend less, and they use very small stretch, but it's still there. Also his spines stick more to each other as if the wind is pushing them together.

@kodykid168 10 ай бұрын

As a longtime fan of Sonic, I honestly don't know why anyone who isn't actually a fan of the series would do this. I'm glad you did, but like wow. That's some crazy dedication to your craft.

@FuzzyImages 3 жыл бұрын

Mascot syndrome aside, who ever was playing in that Minnie mouse suit was doing an outstanding job comparatively.

@TheFrantic5 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, and it looks like, at least from that footage, that the training the top tier actors go through is intense. You basically have to learn to exaggerate every movement. It's like from the LOTR documentary about how they detail how the actors had to force emotion through the heavy prosthetic makeup in order for anything to show.

@lbon5479 3 жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same thing! Power to that Minnie Mouse damn

@raymondthrone7197 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFrantic5 To be clear about this, Disney characters learn classical miming as part of their training, and go through rigorous hours of physical character study. It's a surprisingly deep and unappreciated art.

@theharvardyard2356 3 жыл бұрын

It actually stood out to me from that clip; the real-life Minnie looked more convincing as a cartoon character than the ACTUAL CARTOON CHARACTERS in Sonic 06. Very ironic.

@jamiegioca9448 Жыл бұрын

It's kinda offensive when you stop and think about how even a mascot suit is more expressive than a 3D character (albeit a poorly animated one)

@dragonbretheren 3 жыл бұрын

"No, buddy, that's not how those types of guns work." - Dan, as Shadow pumps an SMG like a shotgun.

@kyleclark6997 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, could you imagine them trying to make Shadow pulling back a charging handle look okay? XD

@MrMarinus18 3 жыл бұрын

Pump action could be applied to any gun. You can easily have a pump action rifle. It's just that most rifles favor bolt action since it takes up less space and also less movement. Shotguns usually are pump action because shotgun shells are pretty heavy and moving them with a bolt requires quite a bit of strength which makes moving it quickly somewhat awkward.

@LazyMaybe 3 жыл бұрын

It _could_ be applied to almost any gun... but that's not a fictional gun Shadow is holding. It is, almost exactly and with striking visual realism, a Heckler & Koch MP5A3. Even if it wasn't a specific real gun, just having it look like a realistic submachinegun makes chambering a round in that way very weird. Either make the gun look unrealistic, or make it a realistic gun that actually works that way, like a shotgun. Come to think of it, why are there no shotguns in that game? Seems like a natural fit if you're making... that game.

@catherinestickels2591 3 жыл бұрын

@@LazyMaybe Do you know what rifles *do* often chamber rounds like that? Nerf guns. That's what that animation reminds me of.

@MoarHam 3 жыл бұрын

By this point he's clearly losing his mind, and shy of clawing his own eyes out.

@Veralos 10 ай бұрын

23:55 I'd be surprised if nobody has mentioned this already, but Hades (and other games by Supergiant) actually uses pre-rendered sprites like DKC and 3D Blast. The sprites just have enough resolution/frames/angles that you can't really tell in practice. Zagreus has something like thirty different directional variants for each animation.

@OSSUKO Жыл бұрын

12:52 naruto was released after sonic cd so... this is sonic run!!

@thehuman2cs715 3 жыл бұрын

"Shadow's gameplay animation has seen some small but incredibly important improvements" Shows Shadow shooting Sonic

@liaminator4950 3 жыл бұрын

Improvement number one: sonic is dead

@jeremyabbott4537 2 жыл бұрын

@@liaminator4950 well it would certainly solve the issue of Sonic's animation in new games

@liaminator4950 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyabbott4537 animating a corpse is way easier bc they dont need to move 😌

@jeremyabbott4537 2 жыл бұрын

@@liaminator4950 just apply some havok physics engine and you're good to go. ... now I want to see Sonic's corpse freak out like Dark Souls' corpses do

@liaminator4950 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyabbott4537 or he dies and just breath of the wild ragdolls

@harpritamdhaliwal1636 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta respect my man using the Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure

@jayceyaboi 3 жыл бұрын

yessirrr

@KiiBon Жыл бұрын

Looks like Frontiers, despite realistic map, is leaning towards a more cartoon approach to Sonic too. Can't wait to see how they do his movements in the complete game, because this could revolutionize Sonic's Animation and Artstyle forever.

@NO0BY. Жыл бұрын

How is it?

@KiiBon Жыл бұрын

@@NO0BY. I got the game a day ago. I looked at the animation closely, and I can definitely say it is fantastic. There is a fair bit of squash and stretch, especially in combat moves where his legs and arms extend. Attacks like Phantom Rush use animation techniques and it really does feel just good to play. He's *fast,* and it feels surprisingly natural. Snappy movements and actual cutscene animation that isn't just standing around. Overall I'd say the animation in the game is a 9/10. Could utilize Cartoon Logic more, but for what we get it's great.

@LycanMOON Жыл бұрын

Sonic frontiers sonic is great,characterization and animations is some of the best we've had Also ian Flynn he's our god at this point.also prime happened and it's perfect,I wonder who wrote it- "Ian Flynn"...I told you

@hdanimatesorsomething Жыл бұрын

@@KiiBon thank God they didn’t keep the TWO FRAME ANIMATIONS WITH NO EMOTION, the animation in the game is so good and expressive

@spindash64 Жыл бұрын

The cutscene animation is also great, and if I had to sum it up in a word: eyes. The big issue with a lot of previous Sonic games is that they really didn’t do much with the eyes to sell those expressions, essentially devoting a massive amount of character space to a blank expression. But Frontiers works really, REALLY hard to use those Big Ol Eyes effectively, and actually knowing when to open them, close them, squint them. You can turn off the subtitles and voices completely in many of the scenes with Knuckles, Tails, and Sage, and you still get a pretty good picture of what’s going thru everyone’s head And even tho Eggman is always good, extra kudos to that animation toward the end

@coyotix 4 ай бұрын

I'm an amateur animator (I work with 2D but want to start with 3D soon), and a huge Sonic fan. This video made my day. Also, Sonic Dream Team for Apple Arcade managed to pull off the overly cartoony style! It's a nice blend of Unleashed movement, Prime expressions, and yeah- it does feel like Crash 4.

@MrJWTH 3 жыл бұрын

Considering Sonic Boom was designed to animated TV series it makes sense that the character designs were conducive for quality animation,

@cristenerichankins5199 2 жыл бұрын

Boom began production around 2011 as Sonic Synergy. The TV show came later.

@chuckled125 2 жыл бұрын

@@cristenerichankins5199 That doesn't mean the final character designs were established at that time. They probably weren't.

@3clisp315 2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckled125 at least the show was good, for the first season

@chimpsj893 2 жыл бұрын

I feel booms expressions are structured the exact same as modern. The face design is the same, the only difference is boom doesn't look the eyes to one single expression, but I feel with new next gen hardware it'll be much more likely to see improvement like that.

@enchilad6799 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the biggest reason the game was animated so well was because Big Red Button had a lot of ex Naughty Dog employees, which had a hand at the Crash and Jak games which I'm sure anyone who's played those games know how top tier the animation is

@kyrieespayos2580 3 жыл бұрын

"i think i may have bit off too much this time" You didn't bite you ate the entire buffet

@hal580 3 жыл бұрын

and the table

@DefinitiveDubs 3 жыл бұрын

And the salad bar.

@cwiebe9 3 жыл бұрын

And the kitchen.

@HyperComet369 Жыл бұрын

Too bad because of the restrictions, he didn't talk about the advance games. The animation in them are absolutely stellar, and there's a reason why they're seen everywhere in fan animations.

@devinwarrick3660 Жыл бұрын

I love the detail you put into this video. This is the first New Frame Plus video I've ever seen, and I think you've been hitting the nail on the head with every observation you've made. I even learned a few things about animation I never knew before! Now that Sonic Frontiers is out, we can see how the Sonic Team has worked in (or not lol) everything they've learned up to this point '' '

@authorincognito 3 жыл бұрын

Me in the beginning of this: oh this looks cool I'll check it out Me, an hour in: How could they add hip rotation to the third running animation and yet the first two don't even have bounce?!

@jaredtherock5692 3 жыл бұрын

@@RandomNameLastName811 this video is nearly two hours long, and besides what would the comments have to talk about if he had mentioned every detail when the comments have to find 20 more details he missed within each game?

@kieranstark7213 3 жыл бұрын

Me an hour and a half in: I think we can can see why NFP like Rise of Lyric’s animation, but the only thing missing is that he forgot to mention the problems with its animation like its rendering looking completely off.

@cy-bernet-ix 3 жыл бұрын

me watching literally anything

@Josuh 2 жыл бұрын

@@kieranstark7213 rendering doesn't have to do much with the animation itself

@kieranstark7213 2 жыл бұрын

@@Josuh True, unless it has such a strong opinion to go with it.

@owenwinship5304 3 жыл бұрын

KZfaq's nicest gaming personality slowly loses his mind as he looks at early 2000s Sonic animation for 5 months. Hilarious and informative video, great job to all involved!

@icarue993 3 жыл бұрын

he did say frick... minus one point.

@clonetrooper2168 3 жыл бұрын

@@icarue993 yeah this is a Christian Channel

@fazelfarrokhi1998 3 жыл бұрын

@satelliteprime 2 жыл бұрын

@@fazelfarrokhi1998 What is this word vomit of a paragraph? Learn to punctuate things, Jesus Christ.

@beanoptodon 2 жыл бұрын

@@satelliteprime I was also unable to read it without having to literally give up.

@toffeefeathers Жыл бұрын

THANK you for acknowledging the animation in Sonic Boom, it’s the one thing in that game that redeems it in any way. Terrible game, but it could have been so great!!

@jacoanimationstudio-di7hi 6 ай бұрын

This is honestly one of the best explanations of Sonic animation yet. And honestly, whenever I see Sonic’s or anyone’s eyes move around, I get happy because that NEVER happens.

@idontnotdothings2193 2 жыл бұрын

41:32 "Sonic characters have extremely stylised designs, & as a general rule, exaggerated cartoony characters require exaggerated cartoony movement, because if you take a cartoony character & animate them like a realistic human being, you get an effect called the Mascot Suit Problem. [...]" Thanks for unintentionally summing up my feelings about VTubers

@omegabet3912 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly? Didn't realize it until now. That's why some 3D Vtubers looked so hysterical when moving.

@duck7835 2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed this effect since I was 7, watching cartoony 3D models move like normal people is very weird since you are used to it being and looking exaggerated.

@lance2580 2 жыл бұрын

Now that I'm thinking about, if I ever plant to become a V-Tuber in my free time, I'd probably want to design my avatar to avert these sort of Mascot Suit Problems. I think I should take inspiration from some robot characters, such as E-102 Gamma, E-123 Omega, or Metal Sonic. Why? Because those sorts of designs don't have a face that needs to be animated, and faces are often notoriously difficult to animate. That, or I could merely just use 2D sprites to depict my avatar like it's a visual novel.

@milky243 2 жыл бұрын

I think that mocap could be used as a base in order to save the trouble of making the animation look smooth and real, but it should be exaggerated and cartoonised on top of the mocap, much like they did in some of the unleashed cutscenes, especially apparent in the second in game cutscene where he snaps his fingers, exaggerated but still believable

@dontseemyprofilepic3157 2 жыл бұрын

V-Tubers are basically mascots, just not in the real world.

@apgsbuddy506 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he did this for over five months and probably on his own and then afterwards adding subtitles to the 1 hour 45 minutes finished product is incredible.

@HandleDisliker 2 жыл бұрын

It's an interesting phenomenon actually lol. Basically if you animate or make something that takes an absurd amount of time for a video and then publish it to a site like here, making subtitles feels like a cakewalk in comparison, all while paying attention to the work you made. But yes. The video was well edited :P

@TotallyTally 2 жыл бұрын

there's SUBTITLES??

@AmyGoo22 2 жыл бұрын

and he isn't even a sonic fan

@HoloScope 2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyGoo22 WHAT! INSANE!

@highdefinition450 2 жыл бұрын

@@AmyGoo22 wow, that must have been painful then

@terror_tonic 7 ай бұрын

id love it if gameplay animations for shadow leaned a bit more into his runcycle looking like he's skating. like homing attacks/jumps/aerial tricks that are based off figure skating tricks/moves/landings. it'd look so fun!

@chemicalplant8161 Жыл бұрын

i love this at 8:43 the chorus for emerald hill lines up with sonic and tails appearing!

@okanut 3 жыл бұрын

Me: I don't have time to watch this movie my friends have been telling me to for years Also me: Oh cool a New Frame Plus video! I have plenty of time for that!

@freakyfro99 3 жыл бұрын

Why are we like this? XD

@AoiLucine 3 жыл бұрын

L O R D if this isn't me but movies are different! You don't always have the time to become emotionally invested...

@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын

Dan's been preparing this for years. At last, he finished playing enough of every Sonic game to analyze it!

@z0bi_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@AoiLucine Don't know about you but i really got really invested in Dan getting his sanity back.

@AoiLucine 3 жыл бұрын

@@z0bi_ Okay just finished the video and same. Poor guy... poor sonic. The 3D era was unkind to them...

@XD4Lifeington 3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for bringing up the "they look like humans trying to move in mascot suits" issue. That's bothered me for so long, and I haven't had a good method to express it until now.

@Vadim-Z 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior no, they still do. But they made enough progress with it in animation for a long time, they've found a way to use that a lot to make it seem un-detected with it.

@sanicmovie4894 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vadim-Z No they've stopped since sonic colors

@Vadim-Z 3 жыл бұрын

@@sanicmovie4894 Sure about that? Pretty sure they used it in forces to, but ok

@sanicmovie4894 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vadim-Z Are you able to link me a scene of where they used mocap

@Vadim-Z 3 жыл бұрын

@@sanicmovie4894 well it's not in the video, but why do you think forces wasn't really a good game? it contemplates bad facial expressions and bad cartoony animation

@kkaaiittlliinn Жыл бұрын

id like to thank you for your videos somehow always being the perfect background mood to painting sessions-it’s currently 1:30am and i got more done on an art project in the last 2 hours than i have in a week. (i promise i love actually watching your videos too but it is so rare to find background noise as effective as this for me) so happy i found your channel!!!!!

@mariacargille1396 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely second this! Dan has been my constant soundtrack in the ceramics studio this semester, and it's been so helpful. :)

@ghhn4505 7 ай бұрын

15:37 He's snapping his fingers to get your attention. I like it.

@SapphWolf 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, "They've been torturing him for months!" Course when you actually see him in his cell it seems like that "torture" has consisted of depriving him of chilidogs for a couple months.

@karnewarrior 3 жыл бұрын

They took his shoes off

@niksooxyz 3 жыл бұрын

He literally looks like an animal crossing character sitting down when you see him in the cutscene in the jail cell

@rattyeely 3 жыл бұрын

@@karnewarrior uh oh

@mauriciosmit1232 3 жыл бұрын

Eggman should've put a chillidog just out of his reach.

@cjstanky 3 жыл бұрын

Granted solitary confinement for an extended period of time in itself can be considered torture

@-ism8153 3 жыл бұрын

"Oh, hey, he did a Sonic video!" *notices something at the end of the intro* "He did... _All_ of the Sonic videos." I thought you weren't supposed to upload much!

@PregnantOrc 3 жыл бұрын

It's the video version of the "The doctor said only one glass of wine per day" comic with the the man with his bowl or cask sized glass joke.

@jeremyk1422 3 жыл бұрын

Funny enough the video was this long and he didn't even cover the GBA and 3DS games which all have incredible animation.

@SAIJANGAMINGHD Жыл бұрын

I come back to this video like once every few weeks, it’s become my comfort watch, crazy how interesting you made this entertaining for someone who has never paid massive attention to animation quality and that knows little to nothing about animation! Amazing video

@nekodayork9843 Жыл бұрын

This video is one of the best-crafted pieces of content I've ever seen! it's so detailed, easy to understand, very well explained, and family-friendly! I've never seen something as good as this in my life! I've watched this video a lot, and it's no wonder that it's one of the most popular! you deserve a lot more subs!

@BlueMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

I had the honour of animating a in-game live event for Minecraft in collaboration with SEGA and The Hive. Your breakdown of all of the sonic games helped immensely to explain the major do's and don'ts of these characters. The reaction from Sonic fans to the live event was an outpouring of love for the visual style and animation. All of that is to say I have you to thank for that directly because of this video. Thank you for the hours you put into making it, and I am so happy to have taken your analysis of the games on board for an official collaboration. Sonic fans deserve better than what they have been dealt. You're the best.

@NewFramePlus 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very happy I could be of indirect help in some way!

@LavaCreeperPeople 2 жыл бұрын

Why are you here

@user-su8wo4cc4u 2 жыл бұрын

@@LavaCreeperPeople why shouldn't they be?

@Tabrix2 2 жыл бұрын

you built childhoods

@LavaCreeperPeople 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-su8wo4cc4u minecraft channel on a sonic channel

@crinsombone5380 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense that Sonic Boom has amazing animation, the designs were made with the cartoon in mind

@caramelldansen2204 2 жыл бұрын

Sonic Boom's cartoon is deadass underrated.

@dankwaifu2093 2 жыл бұрын

Big Red Button had already designed everyone before Sega went and stealth commissioned the cartoon.

@thegameslayer7574 2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelldansen2204 Thank you, i think it could have been good but it was the glitches. At least i still enjoyed the game and the new designs

@thegameslayer7574 2 жыл бұрын

Also, Sonic Lost world is underrated. It’s the reason I love Sonic so much

@playerback7722 2 жыл бұрын

Lost World???

@vivikyue 8 ай бұрын

i need this guy to know that sonic prime, while not a video game, is literally everything he’s ever wanted from sonic the hedgehog and i think it would bring a tear to his eye after all of this suffering

@mailsprower1 Жыл бұрын

For a lifetime Sonic fan and a beginner starting to dig into animation, this video is an absolute godsent. I learned a lot about animation techniques, as well as the games themselves. I never even noticed that Sonic 2 has three different ledge animations! Mad extra props for breaking it down in consideration with game design. And I really appreciate the humour put into editing. This is a rock solid contribution to Sonic history. Well done!

@anonymone453 3 жыл бұрын

"Give the devs time to finish the game." Sega: "that's gonna be a no from me, dawg"

@KairuHakubi 3 жыл бұрын

GOTTA SELL FAST

@KairuHakubi 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior I sure hope so man.

@anonymone453 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior As a Sonic fan, I have learned to expect nothing so that I'll never be disappointed.

@mjc0961 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior It's SEGA and Sonic, so I doubt it. They were probably working on nothing, and now for the 30th anniversary it'll be time for more rushed out crap.

@ghettokage6104 3 жыл бұрын

@Xavior 4

@sonicmeerkat 3 жыл бұрын

you just gotta love how eggman the human character moves more cartoonishly than the actual cartoon characters who are stuck in mocap hell lol.

@fazelfarrokhi1998 3 жыл бұрын

@traktor420 3 жыл бұрын

@@fazelfarrokhi1998 he didn’t even mention t he 2010’s.....

@games_on_phone89 3 жыл бұрын

@@traktor420 well, you see, that's bc he's been spamming this comment everywhere bc he doesn't have any braincells

@acordybs 2 жыл бұрын

1:30:52 THAT TRANSITION WAS SO GOOD

@kuramamastah5270 Жыл бұрын

1:28:55 As someone who watched the Sonic Boom series, whenever it was a eggman episode, i loved seeing all the Sonic characters make moar than just swinsing their over-sized arms to express either a good or bad animation. Still quite a shame how with Sonic it is or good animation or good gameplay (meanwhile the Music always remains solid, and the story well just the usual goofness)

@Javer80 3 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine how sick Dan was of saying the word "Sonic" after making this video.

@ADiretoria100 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that you ignored the handheld games was a strategy move to not loose 2 hours talking about one single Advance game, imagine all 4 of them

@mithril5155 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, look how long this is _without_ any handheld games. This would be about 6 hours lol

@RazorToshiba 3 жыл бұрын

here's hoping for a part 2 for the mobile games~ I'd love to see what he thinks about the advance games, battle, and the rush titles

@mr.preston1632 3 жыл бұрын

@@RazorToshiba And its like a lot shorter

@GhostSamaritan 3 жыл бұрын

He skipped Sonic Riders too.

@RazorToshiba 3 жыл бұрын

@@GhostSamaritan He did say he wasn't covering spinoffs/racing games, Riders is a racing game

@Music_Eating_Fox Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making this; I have found it very educational of the ways characters should and should not be animated, and I will be sure to apply it to any animations I do using similar character styles!

@scudzmcdudz Жыл бұрын

The Sonic Boom tv show is genuinely a comedic masterpiece, so glad something good came from this concept!

@VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 жыл бұрын

The editing in this video is absolutely astonishing.

@ScoutOW2 3 жыл бұрын

I love it! Especially for how much it has in the time he had! Edit: Yes i had to edit this cause i thought it was him talking about his own vid. Love both ya guys vids!

@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScoutOW2 It's so easy to mistake one Dan talking about video game animation for another. Why are there so many Dans on this website, anyways?

@ScoutOW2 3 жыл бұрын

@@timothymclean Theres probs a Society of Dans trying to overthrow a monopoly over the internet. I can just imagine a weekly Discord call about how many new subs they got. XD

@chickensandwich9977 3 жыл бұрын

@@timothymclean I was actually wondering where his accent went when I started the video

@MegamanStarforce2010 3 жыл бұрын

seriously though. it positively stuns me to see editing this consistently high quality for a friggin 1 hour 40 youtube video. like jesus

@mrdrprof8402 3 жыл бұрын

Why is no one talking about the shadow scene? Like am I the only one for whom that hits my sense of humor just perfectly? "this time we're giving the grouchy hedgehog a gun!" It's perfect in so many ways.

@brunoais 3 жыл бұрын

... and guns don't work that way

@brunoais 3 жыл бұрын

@@tommurchuis5464 That one doesn't

@samuelharvey4925 3 жыл бұрын

That scene alone makes me want to experience that game lmao

@thomasrosebrough9062 3 жыл бұрын

Same and double same

@KavinCatastrophe 3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelharvey4925 It a Good game your just going to have to play it a lot for the Final Ending.

@fillintheblank9378 Ай бұрын

i always loved the way sonics quills get pushed inward by the wind when u boost in gens and unleashed. really adds depth to the feeling of "ur now going at mach 12"

@therealmeditoonglove 5 ай бұрын

Face it. You've all watched this 7 times during lockdown.

@erwinlimawan3158 3 жыл бұрын

Man, the bits about mocap reminds me of a teaching from one of my teachers; “If real life looks wrong, you make it look right.”

@sincersan 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly just happy to hear someone praise the boom designs animations. It doesnt get enough attention

@Idontwantahandle11 2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@helloidots9127 2 жыл бұрын

I personally love the designs. They're easier to draw in my style!

@krugerofcause9048 2 жыл бұрын

If only the game was as good as the animations. Also, no, I’m not blaming the devs, because it’s not their fault SEGA ruined everything.

@wackgaming6639 2 жыл бұрын

It’s good but knuckles gained some weight

@lucinavonnolaran8728 2 жыл бұрын

@@krugerofcause9048 part of it is also because of Ken Penders. For whatever reason, when all his shenanigans ended, SEGA dictated that Sonic couldn't be so emotional (aka expressive) anymore, and... I don't get it, why was that a thing?

@expensivecrayon 9 ай бұрын

this video is just incredible. i can't imagine how much time and effort mustve been put into making this.

@1fareast14 6 ай бұрын

1:33:50 Dan's right, that 'hair gel' animation is great, I hadn't even noticed

@LostEngineProductions 2 жыл бұрын

The phrase “nowhere to go but up” has somehow never worked in the Sonic franchise. when the Sonic franchise goes 1 step forward, it’s impossible to tell how many steps forward or backward it can go. There is almost no way to guess what positive or negative thing will stick.

@neo-fy2sc 2 жыл бұрын

I TAKE 1 STEP FOWARD AND 2 STEPS BACK

@youtubeneedstochange4414 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think Sonic '06 was the only "nowhere to go but up" in the franchise, as the sheer awfulness of that dumpster fire has arguably never been topped.

@__crispyyyy 2 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeneedstochange4414 Yeah, but Boom tho

@WrathMilten 2 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeneedstochange4414 I'd say that lost world is worse because it tries far less

@El_Mince 2 жыл бұрын

@@WrathMilten at least lost world was, you know, a decent game

@alltheorynopractice5467 3 жыл бұрын

This just reinforces something I've felt about Sega as a whole for years: They don't learn. Not from their mistakes, not from their successes. They make a game, release it, and then just make another with ZERO notes carrying over from before, good or bad. I have to assume they have a massive turnover rate and there's no communication between old and new recruits, but it boggles my mind how very public the opinions are on each game and they just don't pick up a single criticism.

@tivvy2vs21 3 жыл бұрын

Nah, they learned from 06, just the wrong lesson

@tivvy2vs21 3 жыл бұрын

@@philithegamer8265 they learned not to take risks

@eliasnicolasmiranda4940 3 жыл бұрын

@@tivvy2vs21 then Boom and Forces happen

@felipe_drawmania1604 3 жыл бұрын

@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940 Did Forces do risks?

@tivvy2vs21 3 жыл бұрын

@@eliasnicolasmiranda4940 boom was a TV show licensed game more than a sonic game, and forces was just bad

@genericfriend2568 6 ай бұрын

I never realized that Rouge THROWS Shadow at Omega in their intro wtf

@8bitwarrior037 Жыл бұрын

I decided to watch this video during my last 2 hours of staff duty when I was having a lot of trouble staying awake as they're 24 hour shifts, but this video was really interesting and kept me awake the last 2 hours. Keep up the good work and videos, man

@sandvich9873 2 жыл бұрын

The Sonic Boom designs had the most expressive facial animations I’ve seen from the 3D mainline games of the franchise.

@SoggycereaI 2 жыл бұрын

@Marav Reviews I agree, I love them especially for that.

@samsonicfan Жыл бұрын

I think they overdid Knuckles just a little, besides that, they looked great.

@Ab-re7pv Жыл бұрын

Also the most trash models

@reedtheracco0n Жыл бұрын

@@Ab-re7pv Can you explain why? I know the game is trash bec. its laggy and boring, but the models are ok.

@then00dleman Жыл бұрын

@@reedtheracco0n Well they overuse bandages and of course they changed some things that didn’t need to be changed (mainly talking about knuckles here). While I agree the models aren’t horrible, they’re definitely not close to the best

@NaXEthan 3 жыл бұрын

so many of the problems of the current games' animation could just be solved if they MOVED THOSE DAMN EYEBROWS. the lack of eyebrow movement removes so much potential expressiveness from the designs. the CG cutscenes in the modern games show how well it works when implemented. as a fan, it's literally all i can see when i watch the recent games' in-game cutscenes now.

@sawkchalk6966 3 жыл бұрын

The Archie Sonic comics, and probably the recent series as well, got an incredible amount of mileage out of the modern designs and I'm sad the games never met the standard they set.

@NaXEthan 3 жыл бұрын

@@sawkchalk6966 big agree, makes me really bummed to see :(

@memzdotexe4127 3 жыл бұрын

@@NaXEthan big agree is such a great term, I'm gonna use it now.

@moosesues8887 3 жыл бұрын

@@memzdotexe4127 vinesause joel

@memzdotexe4127 3 жыл бұрын

@@moosesues8887 vinesauce joel

@buggibii 8 ай бұрын

So, I was ALREADY gonna study these games' animations under a microscope, but it's nice to have a study buddy :)

@afrothekobold 10 ай бұрын

i wounder if anyone is still commenting complaining that Dan "should have used the Dreamcast Sonic Adventure games instead of the ports because they look soo much better" without realizing that he did, in fact, capture the Dreamcast Sonic Adventure games directly from the original hardware

@JacksonBockus 5 ай бұрын

Two more since you made this comment.