FOR ANY CHOPPA ENTHUSIASTS, HERE IS THE MOD: gamebanana.com/mods/206363 EDIT: ALSO YEAH. THE HANZO THING WAS A JOKE LOL. LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN @ 0:50

Wow this loadout is so good, I went into a payload server after watching this and kept killing this one spy named exlamo or something like that.

the huntsman is theoretically the only sniper primary with random crits, and the only weapon in the game able to randomly crit when the setting is turned off

I cannot get over how your sniper holds that SMG. Easily the best part of the entire video

"I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee- I still have no idea how that was even remotely close to my head hitbox."

"Valve added the Huntsman because the popularity of Hanzo from Overwatch." That better be bait.

Soldier: "Stop using those flying sticks and get a real gun!" Sniper: "Mate, that's a plank of wood with a nail in it that your holding."

I can't believe you forgot the most effective point blank defense in the game, or as I like to call it the "Stab Stab Stab".

"huntsman takes no skill" meanwhile i'm over here getting faaarrr less headshots with it up close than i am with a normal sniper

Honestly impressed that you managed to get Crazy Dave as your publicist

CHOPPA WONT MISS also other than the cleaner’s carbine, the smg is the only secondary that can deal damage lmao

"The Lucksman, or something often mistakenly referred to as the Huntsman." Laughs in fortified compound

*“There is no bad huntsman user , it’s ‘Unlucky’ huntsman user.”* - Dewill

"Following the overwhelming response to Hanzo in Overwatch, Valve decided to add-" My logical brain: "He's clearly making a joke." My knee-jerk brain: "KILL. KILL. KILL."

5:27 my man got Crazy Dave in his contacts

okay but have you considered using the cleaners carbine instead? since you'll have to finish off a lot off enemies with it you'll actually fill the bar AND the most fun part you can do the old suprise crits with the bushwacka without alerting ppl to it with jarate

man you're crazy with this output. and your views are nuts too. great stuff man, keep it up!

I kind of feel bad for the spys who get picked off because they exist within the same mile radius as an arrow.

my all time favorite screenshot is when i went to a server and tried learning airblast counters. but i just anihilated the huntsman snipers so hard they told me they understamd i am good and i should leave. still have it uploaded on steam. and will always be proud of that one because i just stomped the via luck, i was the lucksman hunter

Man I love the beggars bazooka because I like luck and RNG, I think luck and RNG are the best game mechanics in the world. They must've been made for games or something.

I love how the huntsman uses the projectile hit box that then checks what the closest main hit box is, making headshots so much easier to hit.

If you DO want to get into some of the nuance, the arrows are more likely to literally latch to an opponents head if you are BELOW them when you take the shot. Literally intentionally taking low ground or even something as small as crouching before letting the arrow loose will increase your success rate at hitting headshots a good degree. Also, crossbow bolts move in the same arc and speed as huntsman arrows, so playing med is an AMAZING way to get better at huntsman shenanigans.

Now I actually know how the huntsman projectile actually works, and it isn't luck based at all, but more like the hitbox is just huge in some scenarios. Hitboxes are something we are all familiar with, the boxes that make up the model of a player, if a hitscan bullet hits one of these boxes, it will register as a hit. Projectiles use Collision boxes, not hitboxes. Collision boxes are just 1 big box all around the player, that is the same size for all classes. If a projectile hits one of these collision boxes, they will count as a hit. Collision boxes are called "collision" because they are also used for the maps, and use collision boxes for when you collide with something, or some one. Each player has both of these on at the same time, and come in to play for whenever htiscan, or projectiles head their way. All the projectiles can't headshot, besides one. The Huntsman Arrows. It's a projectile, but it has to headshot. Remember Collision boxes are just 1 big box, if a projectile hits, it is a hit. To compensate, since they both are active at the same time, arrows use both htiboxes and collision boxes. If it hits a hitbox, it's a hit. Hits a head hitbox, it's a headshot, buuuut, if it hits a collision box, it will locate where on the collision it exactly hit, and it goes to the closest hitbox. So if it hits the side of the collision box, it locates the closest hitbox to where it landed and relocates to that hitbox. Since heads most of the time stick out from the body a lot, a lot of the collision box is more head hitboxes then anything. Basically, huntsman arrows just have a 2x bigger hitbox for enemies. It makes sense because well think, it's a projectile, so it has arc, no scope, takes time to hit your target, and hitscan doesn't have any of that jazz to deal with. Since scout has a pretty tiny, skinny body, he has small hitboxes, but since collision boxes are the same size for all classes, this makes scout have a HUGE area on where you can hit him with your arrows. Heavy is the largest of course, normally heavy is the easiest to hit because of his slow speeds and huge hitbox, but the collision box veritcally is about the same height as heavy, leaving a small area of heavies head hitbox left, unlike scout. In summary, nothing about it is luck based, just a big, big hitbox.

4:36 "Get down Mr. President" Kill made me laugh a tad harder than expected

I had no idea how much I needed the knowledge that you can make sniper shoot his smgs like this 5:26

That troll face behind Hanzo.... I had to make sure that was a joke XD

The more i use huntsman or lucksman, the more kills i usually get from sniper, because i found myself most of the time hitting bodyshots and when i use the lucksman, i just don't pray for the best, but pray that a pyro won't reflected it. Oh yea, you forgor to miss out the fact that if an "airblast pro" pyro knows what he is doing will be capable of killing your own arrows

I love those custom smg models so much

I wish I was lucky enough to have Crazy Dave call me on a Sunday.

Valve : makes soldier demo and scout classes absolute funfests with overtuned stats, game changing mechanics and fun high mobility Valve giving the sniper one item that actually allows him to play the game differently : *stupid idiot sniper you're bad and should feel bad*

The memesmann just the fact that you can pin enemies to the wall is hilarious.

Great editing, love this kind of video. Makes me click on your vids when I see them By the way congrats on the big growth recently

am i the only one who's never had luck with the lucksman? Like i nearly exclusively get body shots even when hitting them pretty much on the neck and dont even mention getting corner spam kills. Is it really just hyped or am i unlucky and bad?

Thank you for reminding me that the TRUE Choppa animations exist, as I have now realized a way to make them work with my other animation mods. This video was truly life changing.

3:00 some employee spilled ketchup on their keyboard

As someone currently maining sniper for no greater or more interesting reason than "My aim is shit so let's go trial by fire", the lucksman fills me with an unspeakable contempt.

I love trying to spot myself in these videos after i see you messing around on the server, always a treat to run into you on there

Bruh this video was so well done omfg, i don’t know why i just starter watching you!

I think everybody now wants a huntsman live commentary

Awesome vids mate

We had the cult of the classic, now behold the legion of the lucksmen

recently just found your channel i really love this content

Fun Fact: Random crits actually do not benefit worse players! In reality you have a higher chance of random critting if you are doing a lot better than everyone else. So the system is already benefitting the good players (valve moment).

those SMG anims make me actually want to use it

4:21 MOM GET THE CAMERA I'M FAMOUS

Can't believe Elmaxo is a fan of Choppa posting, this is the best day of my life

4:07 you killed "Unlucky."

All jokes aside these videos are pretty daam good, keep it up!

YOU HAVE DISHONERED MY COMRADS IN THE HUNTSMAN CLAN, FEEL THE WRATH OF HITBOXES

never played this game heard about it in the past never watched anything about it but ur videos make this game seem very fun lmao

The thing about the Choppa is that equipping it the menu gives you a taste of the Newtron Style.

Didn't know that "Crazy Dave" plays TF2! Keep it up elmaxo.

That freeze frame of the civilian-posing spy sent my sides out of orbit. Thanks.

I was the spy that decloaked and got headshot at 5:44. And yes I am an idiot

hearing crazy dave ramble in the background is pretty funny

Literally the greatest summary of the huntsman. I used it against my friends the other night when I got auto balanced and pissed them off to kingdom come. I also just sent this video to them too.

The flip side to that jank ass head hit box is sometimes you like up a headshot on an idle player that's guaranteed to hit and it somehow just bodyshots or misses instead

For huntsman yeah, smg or cozy camper are like the best secondaries imo, or cleaners if ya feel like meming with the bushwacka

Thats music is lit!

huntsman vid pog

I was never a good sniper....... but the huntsman bow works in a mysterious ways..........I love it.

I like to use the cozy camper with the lucksman cuz if you don’t miss you can easily roam the map solo

I once played lucksman in degroot keep and not only got some kills but i also got an achievement for killing an invis spy!

“Luck is like man milk, very rare.” -Bilbo Baggins

5:35 "my name is crazy Dave, but you can call me crazy Dave" basically the entire phone conversation.

3:15 i know this was probably just the hitbox bugging but i like to think that the tf team just really loved their old skyrim memes

The “Get down Mr. President!” kills. 💀

yoo t hat smg animation is sick

0:07 Mr Game and Watch is the meaning of luck

I like the fact that you are using the "gangsta smg" animation I swear to god that animation gives you %100 dmg + accuracy

Dude... That smg animation... I neeeeed it

Lucksmen is probably my favorite thing in the game as neither you nor the opponent know how the hit box will work.

Wow! Overwatch game out in 2009! Man. All those memories.

Is that a gangster smg viewmodel mod. I love it.

I approve the diss on thunder mountain

the choppa thing had me laughing

I really love the Thumbnails,

Cleaner’s Carbine is also pretty good with this loadout. Like you said, it takes just one bullet after a body shot to dispatch a light class, so the slower firing speed isn’t that bad. Plus, the mini-crits can actually be pretty effective when you miss a headshot with the bow (somehow) or with the Bushwhacka.

3:13 "I was an adventurer like you until I took an arrow to the knee or something like that"

lucksman was essentially my first ever casual match,, and im still proud of it

on thundermountain i was soldier defending last and no one was around so i fired a random rocket to a passageway and it happened to be a crocket and a spy happened to run into it. i cant get it out of my head it was hilarious

3:55 is me with crossbow too

Hunnid round drum killin everybody

3:14 I was a mercenary like you until i took an arrow to the knee

One time I came back to tf2 after a long time and hopped on a server, after a while I became bored and asked to anyone in the server which was the hardest playstyle/weapon to use. A guy answered "probably the huntsman", from.that day, I picked only sniper with bow and arrow and then...you pretty much summarized my experience with it :). Aside from peeking, I think it takes more skill to actually see advantages and opportunities, rather than taking advantage of said opportunities.

The bounding boxes for each class...

The headshot hurtbox is stupid and it is easy to get accidental kills, but there's legitimately a lot of skill involved in learning your opponent's movement patterns and predicting where they'll end up. It's read, like in fighting games.

Subscribing just for that song, lol

brings back memories of killing cloaked spies I didn't even know was there as I fired my traditional leaving spawn arrow

idk why but when he switched to “game sense” he sounded like sound smith for a tad before returning back to elmaxo and i just found it funny

The most satisfying thing in TF2 is hitting a perfect airblast on a huntsman arrow and headshotting the sniper who fired it.

The crazy Dave in the call. I love it, hehe

I have three clips on my computer that perfectly embodies the huntsman two are me killing cloaked spies i didn't even know where there

Randomly headshotting a rogue scout with the huntsman feels almost as good as reflecting huntsman arrows back into snipers

6:46 is BUSSIN

mann's guide to the huntsman

the cult of classic

Wait the choppa mod! God i love that

The carti Choppa Wont Miss parody caught me off guard

Real mean lurk in the turbine vents with the huntsman