Can you please help me understand one thing? If the Eucharist depends on the the transformed body of Jesus Christ and his acension then how could the last supper had been the first Mass and Eucharist if neither the ascension nor resurection had occurred yet? What am I misunderstanding because Dr.Pitre makes this same claim in the book Jesus and the jewish roots of the Eucharist?

What I understand is that the eucharist is the sacrificed body of christ on the cross and the journey to the cross started from the last supper. God does not have time constrain so God can go in the future, so during the last supper Jesus gave his body to the disciples which will be given up on the cross. Similarly God can go in the past, so we receive the same body today in the Eucharist which was broken on the cross 2000 years ago. If someone have another answer please share

dwong!!!

I agree

Would definitely have to watch again

Interesting point. But with Jesus, as the New Testament quotes the Psalms, God would not allow his holy one to see corruption. Christ's body didn't corrupt at all. Our bodies will see corruption, whether quickly (cremation) or slowly in the grave. So God would have found some way, even if cremation had been the norm in Judaism of the time, that Christ would not have been cremated, is how I understand it. For us, it doesn't matter so much.

@G P Remember, from dust to dust. However, rebuilding a human body is not a problem for God. God bless.

One Church for a thousand years and then split apart on some inside-baseball understandings of the papacy. They have different rites, as well, but when a parish or diocese wants to come back into communion with Rome, they don't have to give up their rites and adopt Western rites. That's why, for instance, there are today Byzantine Catholic and Byzantine Orthodox parishes. As far as I know, the only way to know which you had walked into would be the sign out front.

Asthetics and Filioque

The Orthodox folks do not accept the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. They do not accept the supreme authority of the Pope over all the other Bishops. That's the main difference.

The orthodox do not believe in the immaculate conception of Mary, the papal primacy nor purgatory. These beliefs alone render them anathema from the universal Catholic Church.

He's coming back to judge the living and the dead according to the Sacred Scripture bro.

Pray for true Light and wisdom. Do you know about the Rosary? One of the Mysteries is for the grace of Wisdom. Do you know the Message of Fatima? The Fatima Center is also a good KZfaq channel. And also Sensus Fidelium. God bless you

@po18guy Why you wait 1 year to respond ?! I've been waiting for you...

He is the one with authority to judge, and yet He does not judge He forgives. “You pass judgment according to appearances but I pass judgment on no man.”(John 8:15)

Jesus came as a man, so he was divine as Being God and also came and was born as a man, Human by nature and divine as God, “So he is our mediator.” Which lines up with John 3:16 God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son to save his people from their sins

@christocentric Yes I agree, but I disagree that church Fathers writings are not inspired, a lot of them wrote we are students of scripture.

@christocentric Why does the church follow their opinions which became church dogmas.

@christocentric The church is a body of believers in Christ Jesus, Example: Five thousand heard the word of truth and the church grew. John writes to seven literal churches, not one. Six of the seven had a few things wrong with them. They were making a left turn from doctrine and they were obviously in error, if they do not repent they will be removed. Several Catholic Church doctrines have occurred over the years that is not mentioned anywhere in scriptures.

because Hebrews ties Jesus to the order of Melchisidek, but what does that mean? Id argue that this is because Mel. was seen as the eternal priest that preceded the Levitical priesthood and who brought offerings of Bread and Wine. When you consider those to aspects you notice that the eucharist is the bread and wine offering of Mel. being fulfilled in the last supper which represents the body and blood of Christ

It's deeper than that bro... Your lens of interpretation sees only the surface. It needs to be scratched beyond the surface.

@@ncubemusics Yes, it is an amazing book, full of clues, it’s almost endless. The more I read it the more I see how smart God is. It’s nice to have help with the Holy Spirit and also the strong’s concordance helps a little. I recently saw this verse and tied them together, it makes some sense. Jesus is talking to the Samaritan woman at the well and his disciples are getting him food and when they came to him they said Master eat, and in John 4:31-34 Jesus said I have MEAT to eat that that ye know not of. Then he said my MEAT is to do the will of my Father. Go to where Jesus is talking about eating his body and drinking his blood. John 6:27 Labour not for the MEAT which perished, but that MEAT which endureth unto everlasting life, which the son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father has SEALED, that ties in with Ephesians 1:13 In whom you have trusted after that ye heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation: in whom that ye “BELIEVED” ye were “SEALED” with the HOLY SPIRIT of promise. Back to John 6:63 the words that I speak to you they are SPIRIT and they are life. I just cannot find in the scriptures where Jesus gave the authority to his disciples to command “TRANSUBSTANTIATION “ Just what I think Jesus is saying according to scripture.

@Laudetur Jesus Christus Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost John 14:9 he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; I am in the Father, and the Father in me. John 5:7 KJV three that bare record in heaven, the Father ,the word, and the Holy Ghost and the three are one. Judas broke bread with Jesus and went out and did miracles, with the other eleven disciples in the name of Jesus, but Jesus told Judas that he was of the Devil. Judas never was sealed with the Holy Spirit. Judas believed who Jesus was and so do the devils also believe in Jesus, but they tremble! Matthew 10:28 Fear him which is able to destroy BOTH soul and body in hell. We are born with Body and soul, two parts 2/3= .666 the number of a man. Revelation 13:18. but when you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise you now are reborn and have three parts and are complete and made whole with body, soul, and Holy Ghost. To be made one with God, as a child of God, we are now called a Christian and a disciple of Jesus. The gospel: 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 Romans 10:9 ,Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30, Ephesians 2:8-9, Truth is in the scriptures! May Grace be upon you!

@@johnp.6043 What do you then think Jesus meant when he said "do this in remembrance of me". You seem not to consider the contextual circumstances. In John 6:66 why didn't He call back his followers when they were unfollowing Him to explain plainly to them what He means by those words after saying "eat my flesh and drink my blood", words that were extremely irritating and disgusting to the Jews and in line with their religious laws in book of Leviticus even abominable. As for transubstantiation, neither the apostles have power to tansubstantiate nor nowadays priests but the power of the words of Jesus redeclared upon the bread and wine according to His command that effects the change Isaiah 55:11.

@@ncubemusics Why didn’t Jesus call back his followers? John 5:42 They did not have the love of God in them. I believed they followed Jesus for the miracles he performed, it says many of his followers left him, it did not say all of them. Separating the wheat from the tares. John 2:19 Jesus told the Jews destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up. The Jews said it took forty six years to built this temple how can you raise it up in three days. They also left him without Jesus explaining the true meaning of what he was saying about the temple of his body. Jesus is separating the tares from the wheat again. John 3:36 He that believes on the Son, hath everlasting life. John 1:1 The word was God verse14 And the word was made flesh,and dwelt among us. Ephesians 1:13 to hear the word of truth and believe is to take the word in your hearts. John 2:23 Many believed in his name when they saw the miracles which he did. Verse24 JESUS DID NOT COMMIT HIMSELF UNTO THEM, BECAUSE HE KNEW ALL MEN. Verse25 FOR HE NEW WHAT WAS IN MAN. Example: This is whyJesus did not go after his followers at the table to explain to them the meaning, when he said eat my body and drink my blood. He new their hearts. John 3:6 ye must be born again, that which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. John 6:36 It is the spirit that quickened; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life. John 668-69 Peter answered him, we believe. John5:24 I say he that hears my words and believes on him shall have everlasting life. John 6:35-36 Jesus said I am the bread of life, he that comes to me shall never hunger and he that believes in me shall never thirst. John 6:40 And believe on him, may have everlasting life. John 7:38-39 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said out of his belly shall flow rivers of living waters ( but this HE spake of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also TRUSTED, after that ye HEARD the WORD OF TRUTH, the GOSPEL of YOUR SALVATION: in whom also that ye BELIEVED, ye were SEALED with the HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE. Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, PROMISED before the world began. It is about justification what Jesus did as a gift for us by,himself dying for our sins and washing us clean of our sins. Believing with a repentant heart for Jesus. Keep studying the scriptures, I pray that God gives you the Grace and understanding of his words of truth.