The Awful Sopranos Prequel

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Taylor J. Williams

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@fyllingenoy131
@fyllingenoy131 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for saying it, but Bill Hader's take on Sil in that SNL skit felt more natural than Magaro's.
@aidankeohane3370
@aidankeohane3370 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t envy Magaro, cause Steven Van Zandt played Silvio really big, but yeah, it comes off as an impression, and I really hate the whole thing with his hair. I did like the scene at the end where he talks to Dicky, but yeah it mostly comes off as an impression. Billy Magnussen as Paulie however, I thought did an excellent job
@dg6099
@dg6099 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidankeohane3370 felt the same to me an impression of Paulie thats all it was
@suburbanweekend
@suburbanweekend 2 жыл бұрын
Umm how old is Silvio exactly? I thought Silvio was like 10 maybe 15 years older than Tony? But here he seems to be his late thirties early forties? Like he was already balding in the 70’s?
@BrandonSmith-be2qu
@BrandonSmith-be2qu 2 жыл бұрын
@@suburbanweekend I started balding at 20 lmao balding doesn’t mean shit really
@skigh45
@skigh45 2 жыл бұрын
@@suburbanweekend Fun Little Steven/Sopranos fact: Steve van Zandt got into a major car accident when he was younger, it did major damage to his scalp. There’s 1 b&w photo of him without a babushka in the 70s. He literally never takes it off. Him balding young is a nod to the show due to how noticeable Silvio’s hairpiece was, Especially when he was in that coma lol.
@TheEvando100
@TheEvando100 2 жыл бұрын
All the pieces are there for a really strong miniseries but the worst thing the movie did was try to cram all of the subplots into a 2hr runtime..made for an entertaining but very messy prequel
@danielcardiff3861
@danielcardiff3861 2 жыл бұрын
Dya think it might've worked as a mini series?
@andrewcorey9882
@andrewcorey9882 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree!
@LumpyAdams
@LumpyAdams 2 жыл бұрын
That's no excuse for piss poor writing.
@siddhant...
@siddhant... 2 жыл бұрын
Entertaining? This movie was like a bad pilot episode for a prequel series.
@Numenorean921
@Numenorean921 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielcardiff3861 yes
@TorresProductionsLLC
@TorresProductionsLLC 2 жыл бұрын
This review has the makings of a varsity athlete.
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti 2 жыл бұрын
Write something original next time.
@commonlogic7632
@commonlogic7632 2 жыл бұрын
@@balabanasireti calm down lmao
@michaelmisczuk8149
@michaelmisczuk8149 2 жыл бұрын
You are a hero. I laughed out loud. Shinebox Nation lives!
@cactuscoolest4564
@cactuscoolest4564 2 жыл бұрын
It really doesn’t though… :/
@GabesEdtiz
@GabesEdtiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@balabanasireti shut up
@tylers6611
@tylers6611 2 жыл бұрын
The racial aspect in this film was absurd. To make that such a large aspect of the plot was unnecessary. And I’m a black guy lol
@melvert33
@melvert33 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like they had to pad out the script by shoe horning that in!
@timothyo718
@timothyo718 2 жыл бұрын
r/AsABlackMan
@kylevernon
@kylevernon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like everyone wanted to see what Tony was up to as a teenager and how the Jersey Mob was ran in the 70s, instead we had a Race War Movie with a little bit of Tony Soprano.
@brandonthomas9172
@brandonthomas9172 2 жыл бұрын
So true and almost ruined it.
@robtothejuice
@robtothejuice 2 жыл бұрын
Do y’all not get that’s just the era and timeframe during this movie? Thats been spoken about in the sopranos before. It’s a valid piece of the cinematic history with Harold and dickie.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 2 жыл бұрын
Another issues is this film doesn't sell 60s-70s feel, from clothes to acting, it always feels like modern day people dressed in a supposedly timey style.
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight 2 жыл бұрын
100%. That's also one reason why the Harold subplot was so terrible - it was clearly an expy of modern BLM zeitgeist sentiments retroactively inserted into the past. I'm almost surprised they didnt actually have Harold say "Black Lives Matta, mutha f*cka" at some point and make it as if he coined the phrase. The whole movie was a shame - Michael Gandolfini did good for his part, but the rest of the movie was pretty terrible.
@ChrisStavros
@ChrisStavros 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAHorribleNight > I'm almost surprised they didnt actually have Harold say "Black Lives Matta, mutha f*cka" at some point If somebody said this at a production meeting, David Chase would have put it in.
@REDEEMERWOLF
@REDEEMERWOLF 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAHorribleNight Yup. Black people had absolutely nothing to complain about back then. Make America great again bitch!
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight 2 жыл бұрын
@@REDEEMERWOLF Right on, brother! God bless America!
@Grandmaster-Kush
@Grandmaster-Kush 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the superclean ultramegacrisp generic blueish tinted look that this movie and all the movies (especially you Netflix originals) made these past 10 years look like, of course the acting itself plays into it but the props and clothes and set overall I think are well made yet it feels so strangely modern.
@thelaw6267
@thelaw6267 2 жыл бұрын
The entire movie should have been focused on Dickie and Tony, and the tagline of 'Who Made Tony Soprano?' Should have been the actual theme of the movie. Cut out the unnecessary subplots, maybe keep him visiting his father or uncle in prison and none of that twin idiocy. Dickie should have been portrayed as a villain protagonist who was actually actively teaching Tony to be a young criminal and having him do work for him. Seeing and taking advantage of Tony's need for a father figure, and being charming and kind to him, a Ralph type, like what Ralph did with Jackie Jr (which could play into why he despises Ralph so much in the series, unconsciously recognizing the real Dickie in him, a two faced predator preying on a young man's need of guidance), while really not giving much of a shit about Tony, just using him for his own ends and business. Show him degenerate from the seemingly suave, charming, good looking guy and rising star he was in the 60's, taking on the New England Crew single handed, to a degenerate junkie in the 70's who gets himself killed by the family for becoming a liability. In keeping with all of Tony's role models actually being scumbags, once he takes off the rose colored lenses. Christopher flat out tells Tony as much about his father in the show, and he seems taken aback by it, because he's been deluding himself for years over the kind of man Dickie was. Tony realizing his father/mentor figures he looked up to were all bastards who doomed him to a life of crime and misery was part of why he went off the deep end in the last season. It was like the movie couldn't commit to making Dickie the awful person he almost certainly was meant to be in the show, had to try to make him sympathetic like Tony, and was too caught up in its political agenda and tried to do too much in such a short time that they missed the entire point. All the material for a good prequel was already there in the series for David Chase, anyone could have written it properly, and he lost focus and tripped over himself instead.
@louis5017
@louis5017 2 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@sundjatamb3061
@sundjatamb3061 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The "twin idiocy" is a running theme in Sopranos, it shows up with Patsi and Philly Parisi (arguably the most important subplot in the DeMeo family from the perspective of Tony's assassination). It also shows up with the kids of that animal Blundetto. Somebody who has the exact same DNA but a different perspective is a window into new possibilities with those we lost. That wasn't lazy writing, it was Chase trying to do some insightful "Oedipus Rex" commentary with too little time. Also I think that making Dickie into an outright despicable person would have had the opposite effect. We are supposed to see the ambiguity in Dickie that hooked us to Tony in the earlier seasons. It was actually Tony's own father who saw him as somebody cut out for the life, who recognized another sociopathic killer in the making with his own son. And that's why Tony's relationship with his uncle is supposed to be more meaningful than that with his own father, who is shown as an unlovable and shitty father in "Many Saints." I agree that there are problems with this movie but they have to do with shoehorning too many ideas into a limited format, not necessarily with the ideas themselves.
@thelaw6267
@thelaw6267 2 жыл бұрын
@@sundjatamb3061 Some good points there. The twin thing was done decently and restrained in the show though, better pacing obviously, and wasn't on the nose and soap operaesque, complete with a love triangle. The Oedipus Rex thing was unnecessary, was already done and explored with Tony, doesn't need to apply to Dickie as well. There's more to psychology that can be explored than basic Freudian stuff. I mean, was Chase really trying to tell us that Dickie wouldn't have gotten a lot of shit from everyone else in the family for making his father's widow, his own step mother, his goomah? They didn't even bat an eye at that? Paulie would have mocked Dickie relentlessly, which would have been hilarious and awesome to see. The ambiguity could have been done better too, if not having Dickie being depicted as a more outright evil character, but at no point does he even take Tony under his wing and teach him anything about the life of crime. Barely spends any time with him. Is not active and attentive towards him, is as distant to him as his own parents are, nothing separates him from them that would have Tony considering him a mentor years later. All he does is talk to him now and again, give him some stolen speakers and mostly ignores him. But yes, this all should have been a mini series that could have explored the themes and threads and characters with the time they required to breath and expand, instead of a bunch of disjointed vignettes crammed together in two hours. To me what was most important was that they needed to sell the Tony and Dickie relationship, make me believe it, and they didn't accomplish that for me. I hate to see wasted potential.
@sundjatamb3061
@sundjatamb3061 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelaw6267 points were made
@Onmysheet
@Onmysheet 2 жыл бұрын
It would've worked better as a tv series. There's more to tell.
@j_shelby_damnwird
@j_shelby_damnwird 2 жыл бұрын
Young Sil was like a bad SNL impression of the character.
@REDEEMERWOLF
@REDEEMERWOLF 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but Silvio kept pissing me off. It was so bad.
@jtothey1993
@jtothey1993 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to pretend that was Sil's dad or another dude named Sil that was wacked before the show started. The acting was horrible.
@trinaq
@trinaq 2 жыл бұрын
When "Saturday Night Live" arguably did a better job at looking into Tony Soprano's teenage years than the Canon prequel film did!
@shabadadoo5004
@shabadadoo5004 2 жыл бұрын
lol that's quite the delusional take
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti 2 жыл бұрын
Not really.
@lazyraceace9503
@lazyraceace9503 2 жыл бұрын
Still haven't been able to view much of James Gandolfini IRL interviews bc I'm a crybaby lol Michael his baby I don't wna seem like a weirdo but he's amazing and I can do better I'm sure lol 💕
@dzhc6009
@dzhc6009 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not Tony’s movie
@kaj7135
@kaj7135 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so many tasteless keyboard warriors defending such a shitty movie. Sad.
@adamstephens6050
@adamstephens6050 2 жыл бұрын
Should have been an 8 part mini series.
@arisumego
@arisumego 2 жыл бұрын
No, it shouldn’t have been made at all.
@imanic1928
@imanic1928 2 күн бұрын
@@arisumegohearing a sopranos remake sounds awesome but with all the remakes these days from the originals there just bound to be horrible
@VitoTorpedo.
@VitoTorpedo. 2 жыл бұрын
This might be nit-picky but as someone who lives in NJ, it kinda throws me off that the cars use the newer present day license plates. Jersey plates were white and blue pre- 1990's. You even see old people with them still sometimes.
@summer-west
@summer-west 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t notice that. I was too busy marveling at the period-correct JBL Lancer 77’s Tony was tossing out the window 😆 Seems like they went the extra mile to get those hideous prairie skirts and other early 1970’s props. License plates would have been easy
@bojan6368
@bojan6368 2 жыл бұрын
SAME lol
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
I hated Chris's voice as a narrative device. As soon as I heard it, I knew that the movie was going to suck.
@kaj7135
@kaj7135 2 жыл бұрын
Lol same here. They just needed so bad to rip off Goodfellas with the most unnecessary narration in movie history.
@basedchrist7797
@basedchrist7797 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all are just nitpicking at this point
@kaj7135
@kaj7135 2 жыл бұрын
@@basedchrist7797 Have a cookie, you’re delirious. It’s an immensely overrated prequel that completely pales in comparison to the show.
@cullinbulanda6591
@cullinbulanda6591 2 жыл бұрын
it was nice hearing his voice for the first 30 seconds maybe but after that it did suck
@gerkogerkogerko
@gerkogerkogerko 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaj7135 nobody is saying it was as good as the show. Jumping to the conclusion that something sucks in the first thirty seconds is reactionary BS. You've gotta take media in before you can analyze it, you basically just admitted that you went into this movie wanting to hate it.
@fyllingenoy131
@fyllingenoy131 2 жыл бұрын
A bit off topic, but I thought it was really weird that Junior telling "all the girl-cousins" that Tony didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete weighed so heavy on him in the show, yet when it happens in the movie he doesn't even seem to notice it.
@thecinephiliac4034
@thecinephiliac4034 2 жыл бұрын
No topic is too off topic when it comes to Sopranos. Not even Yo-Yo Mendez, or half and half in the backseat lady. But yeah, I always act like I don't notice things that embarras me. Seemed like a natural reaction for him ignore it rather than draw attention to it by getting defensive. Also maybe it got to him more after he learned he didn't have the makings of one. Things like that can take a while to start fucking with you. One thing we can all agree on, the movie should've been about Yo-Yo Mendez, or at least the guy who yelled "Oh shit" when Philly's head was smashed. Now those two had the makings of a varsity origin story.
@thecinephiliac4034
@thecinephiliac4034 2 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Hollywood Sometimes things don't really start to bother you until later. They have a way of eating away at you. Sounds to me like you went in wanting to hate it but to each their own. At least I get to enjoy it, salude.
@jamesmaxwell1940
@jamesmaxwell1940 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecinephiliac4034 They could have made that come across with Tony noticing the remark but ignoring it or something, the way it's played in the movie he seems completely unfazed, like he didn't even hear it.
@copheart
@copheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecinephiliac4034 I agree with him. You seem like you want to make excuses for bad writing. He has a point here, there are ways to show a character doing something subtle like appearing to ignore a comment from someone else but in reality getting really offended by it. The character doesn't even need to say anything. A simple look tells the audience all we need to know. That's good writing/acting/directing. This movie failed at a lot of things including that. Of course people are let down and kinda pissed off that the movie wasn't very good. We waited almost 3 years for the thing and then it finally drops and it sucks. We were excited for something to have even half the quality that The Sopranos had and then watched it have zero. The fanbase is loyel to their capo but how much betrayal can we take!?
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@copheart nah nah nah to each their own
@mr.z9609
@mr.z9609 2 жыл бұрын
After I watched the move all I could think was "I thought David Chase was a good writer..." then I realized how incredibly different the skill sets are that are warranted for storytelling on TV vs storytelling in film. He just doesn't know how to write a movie I guess.
@CoCoFantastique
@CoCoFantastique 2 жыл бұрын
Micheal Gandolfini made it all worth it..to see him looking like a young version of his dad was worth the price of admission IMO
@thejman8734
@thejman8734 2 жыл бұрын
He looks nothing like his dad. The movie wasnt about him. They put em in so people would watch it
@christofferjenzen78
@christofferjenzen78 2 жыл бұрын
Kid looked like a grade A creep. Sorry,Jimmy.
@teckno3025
@teckno3025 9 ай бұрын
@@thejman8734 his eyebrows are thicker, but besides that his son is literally his father
@bojan6368
@bojan6368 2 жыл бұрын
Havent heard a better explanation. Felt 100% the same but couldnt put it into words
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight 2 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing "this should have been a miniseries", but I don't think this should have been at all - period. Writing was bad, acting was mostly bad, storyline was bad... They should have just left the series alone.
@mmclaurin8035
@mmclaurin8035 2 жыл бұрын
You could tell that the riots and race stuff was shoe-horned in to make it woke enough. The movie would have flowed better if that story line had been removed and more time spent with the actual families.
@CoCoFantastique
@CoCoFantastique 2 жыл бұрын
Being that those things were actually happening in Newark during time line of the story, I just think Chase tried to expand the view of Newark and organized crime which did involve more than just Italians.. I dont think it was worked in well but it had nothing to do with being woke or not. The guy didnt make up history he just didnt execute his vision well.
@124085
@124085 2 жыл бұрын
Agreeing with the comment below. The race riots actually happened and are part of the setting of 70's Newark. Being "woke" isn't the root problem. It's a symptom of prequals being aimless cash grabs.
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I see other commenters saying things like, "But the race riots actually happened!" So what? The important thing is, did their inclusion in this movie along with the entire black subplot actually make sense? Did it feel like it furthered the story and enriched the plot? Definitely not. By the end of the movie, I felt like I had basically watched two films that had tenuous connections with each other - very disjointed and not a good thing. What made it worse was that the black subplot was clearly meant to pander to white liberals with modern BLM sensibilities. It wasn't even a compelling story on its own, just a modern liberal religious parable dressed in 70s era clothing. I half-expected them to depict a young George Floyd skipping along with a lollipop at some point. Anyway, it was completely shoehorned into the plot. Big waste of time.
@CoCoFantastique
@CoCoFantastique 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatAHorribleNight I think Chase knows a good portion of his audience are people like you as well. Non liberal or whatever label people like to use. I agree with you that is was totally disjointed but the George Floyd joke makes it evident that you would see it one way no matter what the realities of the intent were.. Some people find a polarized political, social and cultural argument in anything. You would probably think the Bible shoehorned in stories about caring for the poor and disenfranchised to seem "woke". people are gonna see what they want..not whats real.
@okolona1
@okolona1 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The movie takes place within a certain historical context, not in a vacuum.
@thelaw6267
@thelaw6267 2 жыл бұрын
All I know is David Chase never had the makings of a varsity filmmaker.
@matthewramsey5239
@matthewramsey5239 2 жыл бұрын
Haha clever!!
@commonlogic7632
@commonlogic7632 2 жыл бұрын
Should’ve been a limited series instead of a movie.
@husker4life109
@husker4life109 2 жыл бұрын
Due to the success on hbomax it might get a sequel miniseries
@chibiromano5631
@chibiromano5631 2 жыл бұрын
@@husker4life109 its going to be about Harold and how he cucks out all of the jersey fit
@Loner-Wolf
@Loner-Wolf 2 жыл бұрын
This should have been a one off series rather than a film. And it should have been more focused; this was simply all over the place.
@BBeowulf
@BBeowulf Жыл бұрын
In that case it just shouldn’t have been made. Why anyone thinks this garbage would be better because it’s stretched out into ten hours of garbage instead of 2 I’ll never know.
@Loner-Wolf
@Loner-Wolf Жыл бұрын
@@BBeowulf I'll enlighten you. If it was a mini series you have more room to tell a better story, a different story. More time to develop proper characters. More time to tell a good story. Not everything has to have a film spinoff.
@DendyJungle
@DendyJungle 2 жыл бұрын
Movie should have been about young junior and how much of a mastermind he was, not a buffoon
@MG-jo7mc
@MG-jo7mc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what show you watched but Junior was never a mastermind. He was a petty, weak, jealous follower with delusions of leadership. That's what he was in The Sopranos and that's what he was in The Many Saints of Newark.
@Trumpetjoe40
@Trumpetjoe40 2 жыл бұрын
You know what the Sopranos show needed but didn’t have? Slam poetry at a Black Panther meeting.
@The_OneManCrowd
@The_OneManCrowd 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh Charles Schwab ovah heeeuur!
@airsir9559
@airsir9559 2 жыл бұрын
Wake up Nigga!!!
@PanterA-ts4fk
@PanterA-ts4fk 2 жыл бұрын
It needed more Harold and African music.
@GilC1992
@GilC1992 2 жыл бұрын
The part that bugs me the most is how great the title is… Many Saints = Moltisanti
@kaj7135
@kaj7135 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent title, terrible movie. Womp womp.
@samuelwoods164
@samuelwoods164 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't catch that.
@bluecollarlit
@bluecollarlit Жыл бұрын
I read that what David Chase wanted to make was a movie about the riots that took place in Newark. But the network or studio or whatever would only make a deal with him and give him financing if he made the project about the Sopranos. So he had to rework his original idea, which was where his real passion lay.
@gregorysgarrison
@gregorysgarrison 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you nailed exactly how I feel about it, much better than I could have. Great job.
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 2 жыл бұрын
Movie was "okay" - but it would have benefited more so as a one off series - they crammed about 6 hours worth of story into a 2 hour movie.
@makani9004
@makani9004 5 ай бұрын
The first time I saw the trailer I actually thought it was a new miniseries. There were so many characters, multiple aged Tonys, my brain was just like "Yeah, you're not fitting that in a movie." What a completely disjointed affair. I actually couldn't believe it they wrapped up Harold's character in a credit scene. And spoiling Chris's death in the first 30 seconds of the movie just to get a little Imperioli narrating was a real shock.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 жыл бұрын
1) HBO gets a beloved IP (Sopranos, Watchmen.) 2) They make the entire thing about race riots instead of the beloved IP. 3) ??? 4) Profit?
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 2 жыл бұрын
Chase specifically wanted to write about that race riot for 25 years because he remembers it as a central event in his Jersey childhood. HBO didn’t make him shoo horn that in
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegibbskins Then he should have made a movie about it. He clearly wanted to repeat what Watchmen did for the Tulsa riots.
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager he’s been talking about making a movie about it for thirty years but it never came together. He sets a movie in the late 60s in Newark and of course it has to deal with the change in the neighborhood. That change is addressed several times in the show itself. Also the original watchmen movie sucked harder than the mediocre show so I don’t know what you are complaining about
@d100763
@d100763 2 жыл бұрын
Chris' hat at 2:22 needs it's own IMDB page...
@bajorekjon
@bajorekjon Ай бұрын
A canopy on top of a canopy
@jmo2475
@jmo2475 2 жыл бұрын
The most disappointing movie of the year for me.
@ResistanceQuest
@ResistanceQuest 2 жыл бұрын
it's an amazing point you make that Christopher's narration undermines the "cut to black" theme of the show. Really interesting point
@readmore4178
@readmore4178 2 жыл бұрын
We all over rated David Chase.
@royoftheravers8269
@royoftheravers8269 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids!
@porchtime504
@porchtime504 2 жыл бұрын
I keep repeating it but I’m pretty sure I’m right. The Harold role was supposed to be tony and what transpired w him and dickie in his 20s. Then I bet a rewrite kept gandolfini in the film longer and added a diverse role……but made no sense
@TheJadedJames
@TheJadedJames 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a lot of complaints about this movie shared by the video. So I also want to call out how badly the trailers lied framing this as a Tony Sopranos origin movie ... when it clearly isn’t. I might have been okay with that if the movie we still got was good though
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins 2 жыл бұрын
David Chase did do a ton of interviews saying that he didn’t want them to do that but HBO wanted to market it that way for obvious reasons and they paid for it
@Md-ji3qo
@Md-ji3qo 2 жыл бұрын
Well if you watched even 1 of the many interviews with David Chase you would have heard him say it was NOT a Tony Soprano origin story.
@mementomori4591
@mementomori4591 2 жыл бұрын
Offf madone. Great review. I do wonder if I wasnt a Sopranos fan if I would have flat out walked out of the cinema when Ray Liotta appeared again. I was genuinely happy when the first character he was playing got killed as I wouldn't need to see him in any more scenes.
@honeybun432
@honeybun432 2 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@henrychiarkas4415
@henrychiarkas4415 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought Liotta was terrible. Should have saved the money and hired a lesser know actor who could act.
@josephaulisio9281
@josephaulisio9281 2 жыл бұрын
It’s spelled “marone”. JFC.
@mementomori4591
@mementomori4591 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephaulisio9281 pretty sure it's madone but sounds like they're saying marone.
@mementomori4591
@mementomori4591 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrychiarkas4415 Agreed. I don't even think his second role contributed to the overall story, could have just took it out completely.
@xtrordinarygrl15
@xtrordinarygrl15 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is gonna be a part two of this that has more to do with younger Tony and how he rises up with Dickie as his inner influence. But i get where you are coming from even if i don't entirely agree with it.
@acehood9953
@acehood9953 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't awful. Wasn't amazing either. Just slightly below average. Had many good points. Defo needs to become a miniseries to flesh out the actors and themes
@drivernephi2212
@drivernephi2212 2 жыл бұрын
This "movie" was nothing but a meaningless fan service trip and a cuckold fetish for one of the writers. Dickie wasn't anything like he was supposed to be, all of the characters felt like they were just guys in costumes parodying Sopranos characters, there was no story at all and finally Dickie dies for an absolutely ridiculous "reason". What a disaster.
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that this movie proves that David Chase is clueless at what he's doing but I always thought he gets too much credit for how good the show did in terms of Writing specially since I know a couple of the writers that show a lot of the episodes of the show and I'm 99% sure those writers are the reason why the show was so good this movies kinda proves that David Chase is not the main reason for the show's success, it's the writers.
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 2 ай бұрын
Happens all the time
@adamnope4577
@adamnope4577 2 жыл бұрын
It did feel a bit rushed, but it was clearly a misnomer to get you to think it's about Tony, when it's just giving imagery to stories told in the show. I wouldn't be surprised if they wrote it as a miniseries first, it felt like it should've been longer
@razzberrythunder3638
@razzberrythunder3638 2 жыл бұрын
Performances, style and tone were there. Its just suffering from being a movie and not a show.
@rokkstar64
@rokkstar64 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the movie, but also I’m a huge sopranos fan so really anything this far out is nice to see. Did it blow my mind? No. Will I rewatch it when I binge Sopranos? Maybe
@lazyraceace9503
@lazyraceace9503 2 жыл бұрын
2:43 TFS I think now, 🤔 Tony maybe could not reveal to us his flashbacks about Dickie possibly due to the fact that the memory of him was happy or sweetly special, never to be recaptured that sorta love? Aww. 💖
@takerdust
@takerdust 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like you tolerated the movie more than liking it.
@Longenecker1776
@Longenecker1776 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it too. I’m not sure what people expect sometimes, perfection maybe? I didn’t. It’s not quite as good as the Breaking Bad prequel movie, but I was glued 90 percent of the time. The girl getting whacked was unnecessary, I will say that.
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 2 жыл бұрын
I'm bingeing Sopranos now currently in Season 4 - its kinda cool to see them mention some of the stuff you see in the movie. Tony totally lied to Chris about who killed his father - the cop he killed that Tony told him did it had no clue what he was talking about - Tony just made it up to get Christopher to trust him a little more.
@BBeowulf
@BBeowulf Жыл бұрын
@@Longenecker1776another movie that sucked and is hated is your comparison? I think you just have terrible taste in cinema
@honeybun432
@honeybun432 2 жыл бұрын
i totally agree with the race riots. i feel like he had a message that he was trying to convey that clashed with already trying to tell multiple side stories at once. like damn your makin it political now too? i feel like it didnt even showcase how tony became evil / psychopathic. how is THAT the guy you went to hell for, hes just a kid! Yea just not well done at all. really enjoyed your video, i can tell you love the show bc that was the BEST analysis of the ending ive ever heard lol. feel the same way man.
@ale-lx9gp
@ale-lx9gp 2 жыл бұрын
Furio: "I ATTE THS MOVIE".
@MJ-kc9ic
@MJ-kc9ic 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I saw posters of this movie but I had no idea it came out
@zanderzaza4947
@zanderzaza4947 2 жыл бұрын
“The digital cable went out again “
@wolfstealth782
@wolfstealth782 2 жыл бұрын
1:01 Laura Linney and JB I have to acknowledge how cool to see them lol 😆 I appreciate this commentary about TMSON so far.
@ViceHacks
@ViceHacks 2 жыл бұрын
really thought it was gonna be a miniseries and I feel like it would have worked out a lot better
@billyheaning
@billyheaning 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the scenes that displayed just how whittled down the crew had become, nothing brought that image home more than the last scene at Satriale’s, where Tony gives Paulie his last and final promotion from him. It’s just him and Paulie sitting there. From the scene coloring to it just being them two, and then just Paulie…. Everyone is either dead or gone. Compare that to the Columbus episode. So sad.
@dc7981
@dc7981 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically a movie about the NY riots .....that got morphed into a sopranos movie halfway thru
@FoulMouthActual
@FoulMouthActual 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't anyone talk about Paulie Walnuts's character?
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz 2 жыл бұрын
Bc he wasn't developed and kind of just there.....
@dg6099
@dg6099 2 жыл бұрын
Because it was stupid and corny
@vukoric3591
@vukoric3591 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I'm depressed and ashamed
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 жыл бұрын
the best thing about the movie is how Dickie cuts himself off from Tony's life to make Tony's life better but his influence on him is already established and changes nothing and Tony's best friend is a guy who cut him off, that's some serious trauma for a kid.
@Onmysheet
@Onmysheet 2 жыл бұрын
The movie tries way too hard to reference the show. The characters force in their mannerisms like Junior repeatedly saying "Your sisters c**t" and Paulie playing with the wings in his hair. It's trying to point out who these characters are and we wouldn't be able to work it out ourselves.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that they used "grey" and "yellow" filters for the mood.
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, terrible prequel. Very disappointing. Whatever magic the show had, this didn't have it. It's the Sopranos' Godfather 3. And what was up with how dark and gloomy it looked? Even the daylight scenes felt like they were lit with fluorescent bulbs. It's interesting to me that the creators of Deadwood, another HBO show with lots of nuance, expansive subplots, and memorable minor characters, managed to pull off a really good movie that was almost universally well received by critics and fans.
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still confused as to what Chase was attempting to accomplish with this prequel. It felt completely soulless and boring.
@melvert33
@melvert33 2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, really liked the Deadwood film, wrapped things up nicely. Many Saints was terrible film, I was wondering why it was so gloomy, at first I thought it was out of focus or something!
@Phantom042690
@Phantom042690 2 жыл бұрын
@@billsimms2511 for sure. At the end of the day I learned nothing from the movie and still don't know what caused Tony to be Tony. Hell we didn't even see a glimpse of his trajectory. I enjoyed the movie but it was disappointing.
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 2 жыл бұрын
I knew something was wrong when the marketing leaned heavy on Sapranos nostalgia. It felt very Hollywood. Strange for David Chase
@Md-ji3qo
@Md-ji3qo 2 жыл бұрын
David chase didn't want that. That was the Hollywood producers decision. Chase was angry about it. You can hear him say it on the talking sopranos podcast
@cloudbloom
@cloudbloom Жыл бұрын
The reason why this movie fails: David Chase wasn't fully in control of it due to real life things which took him out of the project right when he was about to be taking the bull by the horns
@peterwoods35
@peterwoods35 2 жыл бұрын
Having Gandolfini's son play the young Tony Soprano was a total disaster. Likewise that ridiculous Silvio caricature. What a sh*tshow.
@LB__1
@LB__1 2 жыл бұрын
This film did not follow the timeline. Tony Soprano was born in 1959. The film took place between 1967 and 1971. Tony would have been between the ages of 8 and 12. He was portrayed as a high school student in the movie. Also, Silvio was supposed to be a couple of years older than Tony, yet he was portrayed as being the same age as Paulie.
@ryan4372
@ryan4372 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing they added from sopranos, was the gunshot to livias hair that is told in season 6. Dickies drug problem is touched (such as heroin). I dunno.. it was made by someone who has only ever watched sopranos, once..
@robertparker6280
@robertparker6280 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about it more, it should of been a mini-series.
@costanzauk
@costanzauk 2 жыл бұрын
You sound a bit like the radio host on reservoir dogs - super sounds of the seventies or something. Anyway, even though I haven't seen the film, this was an interesting review, if that makes any sense!
@jeremyneal9192
@jeremyneal9192 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was really disappointing
@kg7219
@kg7219 2 жыл бұрын
i went into it w low expectations and was pleasantly surprised by some of the performances, the cinematography was amazing and the costumes were awesome too. from a technical standpoint the film is decent, but it doesnt feel like the sopranos, and it weirdly required the viewer to have seen the entire show to actually get what was going on. honestly feels like failed fan service. and also sil's actor was FUCKING TRASH lmfao
@dirtlevel
@dirtlevel 2 жыл бұрын
The many spades of newark
@hunterst.hunter9222
@hunterst.hunter9222 2 жыл бұрын
They billed this as The Making Of Tony Soprano but we barely see Tony. Why wasn't there a solid, linear B plot with him getting into trouble? They had every opportunity to do something similar to the AJ B plots, or to even call back to one, but outside of him gambling on the morning announcements... We don't get much. I'm okay with this being about Dickie, truly, and I thought he was a good character... But a lot of what he was bringing to the table was just rehashings of Tony in ways that don't show clear influence (the mommy issues, for example). I also think you're completely right... Most characters felt like impressions in ways that seemed to not take the show itself, or the mafia genre, seriously. Which isn't a topic I'm not going to jump into via a youtube comment but, the source material knew exactly how and when to reguard the topics and people it portrays. Many Saints did not. You can't address racism and police brutality in one scene, and then have the absolute worst silvio impression in the next.
@twinfantasies
@twinfantasies 2 жыл бұрын
whaddya hear whaddya say?? you never disappoint with these vids dude!
@Aivottaja
@Aivottaja 5 ай бұрын
11:44 = They also retconned Silvio's age.
@purplerider2362
@purplerider2362 6 ай бұрын
He wasn’t wacked. Noah punched his lights out!
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, the movie felt like it has no message and that it's not really about anything but not in a good way, just in a meaningless way. the best thing about it was Tony's and Dickie's friendship
@meridian_james5
@meridian_james5 2 жыл бұрын
They should have had Tony missing that fly ball against mountains lakes
@staffsgt.sullivan3833
@staffsgt.sullivan3833 2 жыл бұрын
Junior was afraid to face his friends
@MASKEDMAN712
@MASKEDMAN712 2 жыл бұрын
Giueseppina is Christopher’s biological mother, which is why there’s such a heavy emphasis on her. Joanne couldn’t have a child so Giueseppina would have gotten pregnant with Dickie’s child but they would have said it was Hollywood Dick’s due to the fact that happens around the same time he dies. And on top of that, she probably wouldn’t want to keep the child since she’s Dickie’s gomare & her official story would have been she’s gone back to Italy. Her story makes sense. The stuff with Harold didn’t feel resolved but it would make for a good miniseries, not to mention we get to see what happens to Tony after the fall of Dickie.
@engelperez151
@engelperez151 10 ай бұрын
In the many saints of newark that kid that tony fought, was that jacky April????
@DubDidit
@DubDidit 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt die, dont get me started
@BILLTHORPE
@BILLTHORPE 2 жыл бұрын
This film faded to black 2 mins in......After I turned off the TV
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's at all clear that Tony gets popped. A principal theme of the last part of the show was about how life goes on. You yourself said it: "The finale's just another day in the life." Tony looks up and sees Meadow coming in, they all sit down and have dinner. And on and on it goes...
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
@@tui8674 Lol. "Nobody could possibly disagree with _my_ opinion!"
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
@Leafs20XXChamps That's speculation, like everything else concerning the ending.
@imagine9265
@imagine9265 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest let down... David chase clearly didn't put his skills into making this sad ass sequel
@gkceu8157
@gkceu8157 2 жыл бұрын
David Chase is in talks with HBO about developing another series set in the Sopranos "universe".
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 2 ай бұрын
let me guess, zoomers
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 2 жыл бұрын
If this was planned to be the only movie is a bad, really bad mistake and wasted opportunity. But if is just a pilot for a new series or trilogy of movies this is hella promising
@ryan4372
@ryan4372 2 жыл бұрын
If there's another with Tony in his 20s, it has to be played by domenick lombardozzi. Be absurd even if its his real life son, domenick is literally the opitamy of what Tony would be like in his late 20s/30s
@bluecollarlit
@bluecollarlit Жыл бұрын
epitome
@qqq386
@qqq386 2 жыл бұрын
This was mentioned previously: Dickie character should have been as Ralfie, a charismatic asshole manipulating Tony. Instead they try that half assed redemption with the pills
@robertaguilar919
@robertaguilar919 2 жыл бұрын
“Comare” is more like the feminine sponsor, i.e., co-parent of a child you baptize. By extension, it means trusted female friend, not “Godmother.” Similar to Spanish “comadre.”
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. The words for godfather/godmother in Italian (and Spanish) are padrino/madrina.
@robertaguilar919
@robertaguilar919 2 жыл бұрын
@@valmarsiglia yeah, a decent translation in California urban speech would be “homegirl,” without the Catholic association. If anyone has a similar regional translation into American English, I’d like to know it
@skullduggery3377
@skullduggery3377 6 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the film but i wouldn't mind much if it was thin on plot points and flow for the reward of just seeing the character's in their earlier lives.
@Fnelrbnef
@Fnelrbnef 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Sopranos made David Chase an offer he couldn't refuse.
@conormcateer8305
@conormcateer8305 9 ай бұрын
There is big brain work going on… just like entire final episode of Sopranos, MSON is another of Tony’s dreams. MSON is also an homage to the dreamy Mulholland Drive and it contains elements of meta cinema. Just like Made in America, MSON offers a peak inside Tony’s head… MIA deals with Tony’s final dream as he dies from stress induced heart attack… trust me, that’s correct. MSON is a glimpse inside Tony’s head most likely when under influence of peyote shortly after killing Christopher (Many Saints) Moltisanti. Tony’s MSON dream is based on his (often faulty) childhood and teenage memories… all of Tony’s preoccupations are dealt with. It ends with his realisation that just as Dicky allowed himself to be sucked into the horrors of mob life leading eventually to a bullet in the head, so Tony must accept the same fate as he also has chosen a life of crime… he may not have had the makings of a varsity athlete, but Tony could have gotten out of the mob life at a young age, but instead embraced it and was forced to live with the bloody consequences and the emptiness, loss and lack of joy that are inevitable when evil is deliberately chosen.
@terranman4702
@terranman4702 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, Chrissy. I never 'manuged' to get that many mistakes into one written sentence.
@YungM.D.
@YungM.D. 2 жыл бұрын
I will say, The Sopranos, while grounded and having more “magical realism” or contradictory explanations/“outs” for its ambiguous views as you say, did have some supernatural elements for sure. Pauline and the psychic? There’s literally never an explanation the show provides and it’s very creepy. Not to mention if you take Tony’s coma dream as more literal than dream. But I agree, the narration by Christopher takes away something. Like… the literal Hell exists in this universe? I preferred the more ambiguous and unclear supernatural elements of the show. I did think the Liotta character fit that mold well. Not only was he actually pretty hilarious, but he has that moment where he kinda disappears randomly and you wonder if any of those scenes were real or not.
@user-ij6sc6iq8w
@user-ij6sc6iq8w 2 жыл бұрын
They tried to recreate ‘a bronx story’, but failed drastically
@Whiteboykun
@Whiteboykun 2 жыл бұрын
every -and I mean literally EVERY- piece of advertising for this film focused 110% on a young tony soprano. We got like maybe 40 minutes of tony soprano. Such disingenuous advertising.
@gerbilman204
@gerbilman204 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly would have just preferred a Johnny and Junior Soprano film with some Dicky Moltesanti on the side. Seeing the flashbacks of Johnny in the Sopranos was always fun.
@belina674
@belina674 2 жыл бұрын
am i still from jersey even tho i've nvr watched the sopranos
@dd776
@dd776 2 жыл бұрын
How could they get this wrong? All they had to do was follow the same formula as any of the 86 episodes (each one was more or less a movie). To use the excuse there was no James Gandolfini etc is rubbish. The casting in the Sopranos series was to simply use actors from a succusful mafia film. The story or plot was the worse. No need for shootouts or expensive explosions.Just make it like a Sopranos episode and your halfway there. Its like years of tradition and you then have this pigmy thing. No one even got their finger pricked!
@michaeld8280
@michaeld8280 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't hate the movie but I HATED the ending. It didn't make any sense at all. Junior taking Dickie out just because he laughed at him was petty even for Juniors standards. If Junior was setting Harold up for it why did he get to go off and live happily ever after in the burbs?
@bobouzala
@bobouzala 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh,… Poor Youuuu!
@themeadowshadows
@themeadowshadows 2 жыл бұрын
Also why was Lesley odem juniors character a “non character”?! - his character was a huge deal! And I also thought it was suuuper refreshing to see the sopranos deal with the black American experience in a larger way. I was expecting to watch this and find things I missed which I would then agree with but you need to elaborate more bro
@TheDRODOR
@TheDRODOR 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where Junior falls on his back is directed in such a weird way...so dumb and pointless lol
@yurikendal4868
@yurikendal4868 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I've heard very little about this movie.
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead 2 жыл бұрын
I still couldn't tell you wtf this movie was about
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