Wow that was a really good Buy mate and you never Miss a trick when adding Details to soften them lights was Just Right there a Lot of Detail I dint notice the first time on the train its self very Nice add to your Collection thanks loved it

Hi Graham, that is superb workmanship .... well done, I really like the 4CEP, I have a few of them together with a Class 419 Motor Luggage van which I intended to run as a set, once again ... well done!

Looks really good mate ,you done an excellent job on them will make a good addition to your layout running around

Looks excellent and very much as I remember from the 1960s! I may have only been single figures old but I do recall brown corridors, yellowy light and the route number lights at the back were red!

Lovely Job Graham .

Looks really good really nice set it looks good going around lakeside nice one Graham

Nice work Graham. You have made a big improvement there. 👍

That's a great job you've done on that set.

It looks very good running around Lakeside as the new lighting is a big improvement and the people and repainting all add to the overall look. Cheers Kev

What a transformation Graham I too use the orange translucent paint on street lights

Nice job Graham. I’ve worked on a few of them when at a certain railway works near me 😊

What an improvement!👍

Yes indeed, they had red blinds on the end. Great upgrade Graham. The pillars you mention are excellent...I used to lean on one every day for a homeward nap!! In those days the same groups of commuters would use the same seats everyday and we would make sure any "interlopers" sat elsewhere. There were even card schools and crossword groups!! fun days. Cheers, Bob

That 's a great lighting job Graham , I think the painting has enhanced it as well Top Dollar Graham

Graham, you have taken some great coachs and literally made them brighter. I want to take a trip on that train. Bill from California

Great work. Hi from NZ

great work graham well done mate she looks great its a credit to you keep up the good work

Good job, Graham! The amount of figures you added looks about right to me. Unless it's rush hour, seems like a match for ridership. Your color change on the interior also looks like a winner.

Nice one Graham, I've very much enjoyed following your progress on this model, thanks 🙂

Brilliant job 🎉 looks very real. How about closing the orange curtains to hide the chip and motor? Re the white blinds at the ends. this was the headcode box. Two reds were displayed on the rear of the unit, two whites were an option going forward but more usually any one or two digit number would be displayed as there was also a black option on the two roller blinds

What a difference with the lights make and the passengers you put in Graham you done a great job looks great on your layout

Graham, Good Day.... I have an idea about hiding your motor on this train and I think it would still look good, placing CLOSED curtains over the windows that you want to hide, you would still see everything else in the car except the motor. Also I like the lighting change...

An overall good job on this 4CEP model here graham looked really good going round lakeside, keep up the great work.

Hi Graham. Great job of the 4cep. What a great addition to your lovely layout. The dull lights look so authentic. Don't know what to suggest about the decoder, maybe two people standing at the window having a chat. Even notice your brilliant trucks going round. Well done Graham and thanks for showing us. Stay safe buddy. Pete.

Very nice Graham, and I like the added touch of the passengers inside. Lovely addition to the fleet. All the best.

Brilliant video, thanks Graham. Don’t know if you know, but I’ve just seen a man walking through the woods with fishing tackle going towards the canal 👍🎣😂🎣👍 😂

Great work Graham, you owe yourself a beer ...🎉great work looks fantastic

I think its lovely Graham, the only thing I can think of your window problem is that some windows have white out, I have seen on real trains probably to stop people on the platform from seeing the kitchen on board, or some clear but patterned window film, or maybe some bubble wrap to obscure those windows with the transformer, we will be seeing more of this, its smashing.

Great video Graham. I have obviously got a lot of catching up to do, regarding your layout. I haven’t seen any videos for a few years. The last ones I saw you still had the suspension bridge and you had just completed the terraced houses, church scene and Traction engine display on the village Green. I look forward now to doing some catch up. Keep up the excellent work Graham. Kind regards John.

Great job Graham. They look fabulous!

What a successful purchase/project Graham. Particularly effective on the slow passes.

Great looking loco and it looks like it runs well. Hope you have a nice time running around your layout and it getting a view the lake. Tim

To the best of my knowledge, the centre blind, had red panels to act as the red rear lights , instead of hanging a tail lamp, the white light was used to illuminate the route number. The southern. Region used route numbers, so station staff at places like Clapham, Croydon or London Bridge knew which train was which. I clearly remember the Southern drivers winding the blinds on arrival at Reading from Waterloo. Sorry for possibly stating the obvious. Your modelling skills are fabulous, love the lighting and the realism you have acheived.

Great looking and running EMU Graham, to try and cover the motor in mine I made false seats and sat passengers in near the windows to try and disguise the motor casing. At the rear guard end I placed a figure in the doorway again to hide `looking in`. It is surprising how many passengers you require, I managed about 75% of the seats! Looking at the shots of your platform edge I was wondering how you weathered them, was it powders or a wash as I have concrete edging and need to tone them done, many thanks for sharing regards Barry..

5:00 Red backlight at the rear end and two white. black or train number at the front

Love it... Looks really good and superb attention to detail as usual.. Great addition to Lakeside.. Even has your age on it...

How about closed curtains , a bit of paper painted orange with streaks 😊

Graham, wonderfully done, the unit does look good, looking forward to getting mine on the road. I know you like historical facts, so here goes. The back tail light blinds would have been originally white but the vehicle would also have had a red tail lamp as per other coaching stock, then of the paraffin variety. It was felt in those days that the batteries were not reliable (it was the same on other units and tube stock) When they were found to be reliable the back blinds went to red and tailamps were no longer required. I seem to remember this was in the mid 60s on these units. At about the same time the front headcode numbers were reduced in size.

The lights are a sort of yellow colour. Hopefully, the commuters have enough light to read their papers, as the train leaves London, and travels down through to Lakeside, towards the South Coast, of Sussex on the dark winter evenings.

The lighting looks fantastic, so much better than the original.

That looks great Graham. I do need to get a demu for my new layout

Great conversion. One suggestion for hiding motor, could you print a picture to look like an interior?

Looks great Graham, that lighting is quite superb and really looks the part. I used to travel quite extensively on these trains in the late 70s and into the 80s both before and after their refurbishment so the lighting effect brings back memories of them, particularly in the evening or at night. Incidentally, for the rear blind, have you thought about fitting a red LED for when it’s the rear coach and a white LED for when it’s leading ? Another point, I think Bachmann have got the TCK vehicle wrong (the trailer with 3 windows and four windows). From what I remember, the part of the coach with three windows had three larger compartments than the part of the coach with four windows. I’m pretty sure 1st Class was the three larger compartments. Unless my memory has faded of the years !

Nice job all round Graham. I've just finished installing passengers in my DMUs. Fortunately they're old Lima ones, so taking them apart was a breeze. You've said yourself about masking the motor and decoder with a figure or two. If space is limited, what about a picture of the interior that should be there? You'll only see it fleetingly anyway. Cheers

Hi Graham ,What a great job you have made of the lighting in these coaches .I have had this set of 411,s for a number of years now ,and like yourself and many others the lighting has always been a niggle .I still run DC only so don,t know if i could do the same with mine .Would have loved to see exactly how you managed to do the conversion .Well Done . Regards Les

Wich Tamia paint number did you use Graham ? So that I can do the same on my 4 car set. Bill from w/Australia. Best Regards.

Graham, which type of track do you use? Given the choice of doing it all again which type would you choose now?

Still can't figure out why these run really quiet while the Bachmann MLV and small DMU are noisy. It must be a different motor and gearbox but why I wonder?

How to hide the motor and decoder...pull the curtains closed!