The Batman: TRAUMA

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Implicitly Pretentious

Implicitly Pretentious

Күн бұрын

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0:00 - "Young angry Batman"
2:18 - Act 1: Defining trauma (lol)
3:52 - Act 2: Batman is a jerk
5:45 - Act 3: Batman is hope
8:33 - Obligatory music tribute (Won't you wait for me by Go for Howell)
10:50 - Credits/ update on channel
|| mystery song of the day ||
I never meant to cause you any sorrow
I never meant to cause you any pain
I only wanted to one time to see you laughing
I only wanted to see you
Laughing in the purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
I only wanted to see you
Bathing in the purple rain
I never wanted to be your weekend lover
I only wanted to be some kind of friend (hey)
Baby, I could never steal you from another
It's such a shame our friendship had to end
Purple rain, purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
I only wanted to see you
Underneath the purple rain
Honey, I know, I know
I know times are changing
It's time we all reach out
For something new, that means you too
You say you want a leader
But you can't seem to make up your mind
I think you better close it
And let me guide you to the purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
Purple rain, purple rain
If you know what I'm singing about up here
C'mon, raise your hand
Purple rain, purple rain
I only want to see you
Only want to see you
In the purple rain

Пікірлер: 159
@daddylonglegs8712
@daddylonglegs8712 2 жыл бұрын
All the people who hated on Robert Pattinson for Twilight and ignored the rest of his filmography looked really stupid right now.
@thevoid99
@thevoid99 2 жыл бұрын
i was someone that didn't take pattinson seriously at all because of "twilight" but after seeing him in "maps to the stars", "the lost city of z", and "queen of the desert". i was like "ok, i was wrong". dude can go. i'm glad he and kristen stewart have taken risks but also have some fun along the way. they're going to get their oscars.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he doesn’t really act different from Edward tbh, his personality is near same actually, but his other films are different
@thefilmrookie3099
@thefilmrookie3099 2 жыл бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 not really. Edward and Bruce are awkward and shy. But Bruce is a lot more reserved, intelligent, and not a simp.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefilmrookie3099 what do you think he was in this film? Going after Selina and stalking her like that, it’s NO different from Edward
@CM-pf1xc
@CM-pf1xc 2 жыл бұрын
No the point problem is they ignored him in twilight too-he was the same actor there too! It’s just sexism that discounted twilight as a franchise. Now T had its problems but actors were fine
@toganium4175
@toganium4175 2 жыл бұрын
This really was the story of Vengeance learning to be better than Vengeance.
@TimGildersleeve
@TimGildersleeve 2 жыл бұрын
Channeling that vengeance towards preventing further.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
This is all what Batman should be, it felt like a response to all the years where the character was misunderstood as a purely grim, hopeless and dark in different media.
@dizon8629
@dizon8629 Жыл бұрын
Iii
@yurineri2227
@yurineri2227 2 жыл бұрын
a vehemently disagree with the idea that because batman mastered various martial art philosophies he should have his trauma under control, just ask someone who teaches martial arts classes, just because someone knows the theory doesn't mean they internalized that philosophy, it makes sense that bruce was so dead set on a goal that he could only start healing when he actually started his crusade and wasn't with vengeance and training on his mind constantly
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing this. There's a comic called The Man Who Falls that shows Bruce training years and it highlights this very point, how he'd go from master to master but would leave them relatively quickly when they'd ask he stay for more years to embrace their way of life or the moment he disagreed with their methods, because Bruce is just that stubborn. Young Bruce never wished for peace of mind, he wanted to acquire the necessary skills so he can wage his vengeful crusade on criminals and so portrayals like Arkham Origins or The Batman feels more authentic to me than having him come back from training fully-formed with virtues of patience and stoicism like Bale's Batman was.
@thechad4485
@thechad4485 2 жыл бұрын
@@themadtitan7603 Exactly! I remember in the anthology series, Batman: Gotham Knight, there’s an episode called “Working Through The Pain” where Bruce studies with a woman that teaches him to ignore physical pain. She also wants him to learn her philosophies about ignoring criminals (in this case, specifically the ones that constantly assault and mock her because women aren’t allowed to practice their cultural martial arts in their eyes), and letting the evil of the world wash past you without reacting. He outright refuses. Once he’s learned what he wanted, he violently beats up her attackers. Disappointed, she rejects him as a student. Having what he needed from her, he moves on to the next master.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
@@thechad4485 I think it was a movie. But yeah you're still right, that was a great look into Bruce's psychology that imo TDK trilogy didn't look into much other Begins, ironic considering Gotham Knight supposedly ties into it.
@barrydelight
@barrydelight 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't read this comic but it is from Grant Morrison's Batman run. Bruce's anger or self-control changes depend on the writer. But we all know that Grant Morrison just want to be meta. After all, they created Bat-God.
@betuna9487
@betuna9487 Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter. Love you...
@maxhydekyle2425
@maxhydekyle2425 2 жыл бұрын
"Batman is a virgin" Just making him more relatable.
@jipillow1
@jipillow1 2 жыл бұрын
Heath ledger taught me to never judge an actor before seeing how they bring a character to life
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 6 ай бұрын
That is such an excellent point because people were outraged that this “RomCom pretty boy” was about to bring the clown prince of crime to the big screen?! Outrageous, they said! What are they thinking?! They said. And then the advertising campaign started, the posters dropped, the trailers dropped, and people started losing their minds in anticipation to see whether the whole film could possibly hold up to expectations. And I don’t really think there’s been a better performance of any preexisting character ever brought to film. He just fuckin knocked it out of the park. RIP Heath
@zeke8921
@zeke8921 2 жыл бұрын
I adore the idea of Bruce re-traumatising himself every single night, completely freezing himself in that one moment in crime alley forever
@TimGildersleeve
@TimGildersleeve 2 жыл бұрын
I was neutral about this film until release, but left happily surprised. A Batman film with growth that doesn’t have Lego in the title? Sign me up! Zoe Kravitz absolutely understanding the assignment? Even better! Jeffrey Wright as the definitive Jim Gordon? You spoil us! But seriously, it’s as simple as Bruce starting the movie as “the darkness” and learning to become a literal light in the darkness by the end. Bless and protect R.Batz.
@TimGildersleeve
@TimGildersleeve 2 жыл бұрын
Also, would be fascinated to see you dissect The Lego Batman Movie. Which until here, was the best to understand the character.
@joshheralal8758
@joshheralal8758 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimGildersleeve Also Mask of the Phantasm.
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 Жыл бұрын
@@TimGildersleeve wait no fucking way, is this a joke or legit? I passed up on lego batman, but is it honestly good?
@jason6433
@jason6433 Жыл бұрын
@@d4s0n282 yes
@icedcapplord710
@icedcapplord710 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I finally have a film I can use as an example for why I understand what BvS Batman was trying to do but never fully subscribed to it It felt like this film's critique of Bruce's endless obsession with basically trying to stitch up the unhealed wounds of his parents' demise went way deeper than just having Alfred talk him out of his predicament. Batman in this film is basically a product of Gotham's corruption and he spent the film teetering on the edge of succumbing to its more seductive qualities, especially emphasized by his family background as a blood relative to the Arkham family. When he ends his arc having received clarity on how he directly inspires the corruption in his city through people like Edward Nashton, it felt like the film had really been centered around Bruce being in the metamorphosis stage to becoming the Batman that we know, and could be why he is almost never referred to by that name over the course of the film. It was by that point that he actually learned to embrace his humanity and compassion again and it was exceptionally executed.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
Expertly put, completely summed up my appreciation for the film. I viewed the film as almost a response to last several years of Batman media (particularly the films) that glorified the hopeless, cold and dark traits of Batman and inflated it to being his "real" nature. Nevermind, all the years of authorship that depicted the character as the personification of hope and turning your pain and trauma as a force that can help guide you and others in the darkness that is Gotham City's perpetually crime ridden state in Neil Adams and Denis O'Neil runs across the 70s/80s, Batman: The Animated Series, Batman: Ego and even to lesser extent, the Batman Arkham Series. Matt Reeves' The Batman is a return to that, a rejection of all the last 15 years of a cold and ruthless vigilante and a comic-book faithful emotional portrait of a traumatized, scared and sad young man who refuels all his years of angst and anger into a force of hope, not to continue the cycle of vengeance but trying to end it. This is a Batman that I could see adopting Dick Grayson and even if he doesn't know how to be openly emotional with him, he'll love and cherish him and help guide him away from the path of vengeance that he walked down once. He'll teach Robin to be better than him.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis!
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
I'm copying this comment,thanks for an amazing pov
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
This Batman realised his quest for revenge had backfired and unintentionally inspired psychos like Riddler and his followers so he knew he needed to be better and become a symbol of hope and justice. In the DCEU however he's stopped from killIng Superman by their mothers having the same name and you're apparently just supposed to accept that he's a good guy now and ignore all the branding and gunning everyone down.
@kr1spness
@kr1spness 2 жыл бұрын
BvS is a movie where Batman slides back into his old, failure of a symbol.... but we get little context (a reminder of Jason), and we see him still trying to be a symbol when he should be seen as beaten and weak, but Zack props him up as badass regardless.
@Astartes-6969
@Astartes-6969 2 жыл бұрын
I like the analysis you made about Bruce looking for a father figure in this film. I'd like it if the sequel would explore Bruce looking for a mother figure, cuz usually Martha is always set aside (The Nolan Trilogy is guilty of doing this) This would work well with Mr.Freeze as the Villain, Freeze wanting to save his wife, the love of his life, he wants to save her cuz he doesn't want to lose her like he did with his Mother. Maybe have Poison Ivy as a secondary Villain who is a corrupted version of the Mother figure, like how Falcone is the corrupted Father Figure of this film. Have Ivy manipulate Freeze. I think Anya Taylor-Joy would make a great Poison Ivy.
@SathishKumar-sk8fe
@SathishKumar-sk8fe 2 жыл бұрын
Well considering that they referenced Martha was in Arkham, this does really sets up new ways explore Bruce's psychology and what he might have inherited from his mother.
@gunnersraptor10
@gunnersraptor10 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree that you can study multiple martial arts and internalize their philosophy's. Exhibit A, the MMA.
@slade6959
@slade6959 2 жыл бұрын
True also this Batman did not travel the world and train with monks and shit. He never went through any enlightenment he just became a traumatic vengeful hermit after parents death
@jojothebard6687
@jojothebard6687 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, man. Glad that I’m not the only one who thinks this way. Despite it being a exceptionally dark movie, The Batman feels so oddly hopeful compared to its contemporaries. This movie, I think, *nailed* Batman’s morality and psychology, maybe even more so than the Nolan Trilogy.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's Matt Reeves what has been fundamentally misconstrued in other media which is that he's a completely brutal and grim character. With every other reboot and adaptation seemingly trying to outdo the last in how serious it can be The Batman instead, rejects that in favor addressing the darkness of this world but bringing back a lately neglected (but integral) trait of Batman which is his empathy and hope he represents to Gotham.
@suburbangoat7550
@suburbangoat7550 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the simplicity of his arc in the movie! It was so fitting, and perfectly illustrated a young Batman and what anger and rage from trauma can do to someone!
@dynaguy3
@dynaguy3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Alfred actually mentioned Riddler's Spanish isn't perfect when he decoded the message about "el rata" but Bruce ignored him. He only started paying close attention to Alfred once he almost lost him
@steampunk1610
@steampunk1610 2 жыл бұрын
This Movie got me to like batman again At least a batman that isn't a unlikable douche
@TimGildersleeve
@TimGildersleeve 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and it doesn’t star licensed toys or anything. Weird.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
To me, an untouchable, very human Batman is who the character is supposed to be. It's only when misconstrued or poorly written that Batman instead becomes this self-insert fantasy where he defeats superpowered beings, knows every move any DC character is about pull off at any time and is untouchable thanks to his inflated prep-time.
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
@@themadtitan7603 batman is human,green arrow is also a human,blue beetle,green lantern honestly most dc characters are relatable and complex that some of their background you can sympathize with
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
@@barry2349 Agreed, I never got this idea that DC is about these untouchable super-beings trying to relate weak earthlings or whatever when a large chunk of them are either fairly usual human beings or flawed aliens who struggle with everyday mental and emotional trials and tribulations.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 жыл бұрын
Utterly beautiful analysis, the first point of yours that I instantly strongly agreed with was the one about how Reeves portrays The Batman as a surreal and inherently illogical concept and runs with it by framing the film from this first person character-study angle. One major thing about Nolan's Batman films was that they were very focused on "rationalizing" each aspect of Batman and his existence in that role under some logical mechanism as to how someone could take on such a crusade. That certainly worked for the direction of that trilogy, but The Batman's presentation of his psyche and thought process as JUST IS and an obsession he holds onto because it's the last thread he's holding onto so he's not completely overtaken by trauma feels more true to the characters and the source material to me personally. People talk about the lack of playboy persona but that was never Bruce Wayne imo, it's a theatrical projection he hides behind when in the public just like Batman is when he's out there fighting crime. But between those personas is Bruce, the scared boy still traumatized by the death of his parents and brooding in the batcave; The Batman didn't neglect Bruce, it showed the real him unfiltered. And that's why I believe that this is the most sincere live-action adaptation of the character.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
Woah.. That's a beautiful analysis too!
@mohammedazam6562
@mohammedazam6562 2 жыл бұрын
I swear this dude and Super Frame never disappoint
@dynaguy3
@dynaguy3 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they pronounced Falcone that way to make the (falcon-rat with wings) connection clearer
@the0thersyde725
@the0thersyde725 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was honestly THE Batman film I've been waiting for, for years. I've always had some sort of personal issue with every previous live action version of batman always feeling like they ignored, misunderstood or were missing certain aspects of the character and his world. But this movie did everything and included everything I've wanted a Batman movie to include for years. From the detective aspects, to a Gotham that feels like a character to itself, to the deep character study on bruce and an actual understanding that Batman is a hero to gotham not just a vigilante who beats up criminals. I'm definitely of the mindset that Batman should be able to do two opposite things. 1. Be Scary enough to criminals that they are terrified of the idea of encountering him and 2. despite that still be able to comfort a random scared child on a personal level. Batman TAS/Justice League cartoon understood this, and this movie also does. (SPOILER ALERT) You cannot imagine how happy I was at the movie opening with the mere idea of him terrifying criminals around the city and then towards the end this random woman clings onto him out of safety and he has to reassures her that it's safe to go with the paramedics.
@TheBatman39
@TheBatman39 2 жыл бұрын
This movie brings a new light on what Batman actually means as a person; beyond the "mentally insane rich white guy who beats the poor into a pulp and is an incompetent vigilante who should kill the villains", now the people who are always hating on the character can see the movie with a more open mind and see that Batman can be just as if not more inspiring and hopeful than Superman or other characters.
@Lsd1021
@Lsd1021 2 жыл бұрын
Man I've been so looking forward on your talking about this movie. Absolutely loved the film
@Maikigai
@Maikigai 2 жыл бұрын
Though based loosely on The Long Halloween, The Batman reminds me more of Batman: Earth One.
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn... That music tribute was just amazing! Also looking forward to your future videos!
@suto5704
@suto5704 2 жыл бұрын
I like how even though he was already in year two it still felt he became batman. Like he was vengeance for the first 2 years now he's actually Batman.
@jpyanity443
@jpyanity443 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to my favorite film psychology fix, this channel has also become by source of songs that I love and somehow have never heard before
@kr1spness
@kr1spness 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of people who came out of The Batman and said they just watched a man accomplish nothing really shows the lack of even the slightest media literacy. They find the intro edgy, great, he is off his rocker, but then they find the outtro pointless because Riddler still set off his bombs. Sad they missed how purposeful it all was, he was stuck and he had a great revelation. I can't even say the Hero's journey became metaphorical towards the end, he literally almost died, revived himself, verbalizes his change and returned home, and people still miss it.
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 Жыл бұрын
The mass audience is scarily blunt and simple when it comes to these things. They want boom boom and that's all
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 2 жыл бұрын
After watching Moon Knight Episode 5 I know that trauma episode for it is going to be phenomenal already
@RSRye
@RSRye 2 жыл бұрын
With regards to ur comments at 11:33 , im sure that many others like myself would like to hear these thoughts in follow up vids. Thanks for ur work as always, cuz this was another banger of a vid
@spacepug4465
@spacepug4465 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this! Always looking forward to your video essays
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 2 жыл бұрын
Falling asleep to your videos is always soothing then the lengthy music parts come in and I get confused if some music video just started playing
@robertdennys8994
@robertdennys8994 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the better IP essays. Combining informed theoretical perspectives with relatable elements of popular storytelling, in a concise and not-too-dense format.
@phivrl2074
@phivrl2074 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible montage at the end, cool analysis before that. Cool video, thanks
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 Жыл бұрын
There’s something hilarious about a “total virgin” Bruce Wayne as you put it😂 And the fact that Selina is SO much for him to handle kind of explains his chasteness with her. He doesn’t know what to do with…all that. Haha. And just in general, I mean, depending on which universe we’re talking about, Bruce is still never quite the ladykiller the public persona plays him as; he can’t be. His worst habit is sleeping with other people’s S.O.s. 😂 But in general he’s only had a handful of real loves and people who have known his secret. Almost all of his emotional capacity is sublimated into a violent expression, leaving almost no room for anything else. Batman never really has time for love.
@KaisShadow-e5d
@KaisShadow-e5d Жыл бұрын
This movie to me is such an amazing early Batman movie with him actually having to learn what it truly means to be Batman which I feel so many movies and interpretations stumble over because he isn’t just pure rage amd vengeance he needs to be able to provide support give hope and help others especially with that opening scene where he terrified the man he just saved from muggers a stark contrast to the end where he actively works as a sort of beacon guiding and trying to help others
@dudetheman3
@dudetheman3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always!
@pauljohnson271
@pauljohnson271 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always
@craigharvey-gurr337
@craigharvey-gurr337 Жыл бұрын
For the next major villains that I think would be perfect for this Batman universe would be Deacon Blackfire, Wrath, Azrael, Hush, and Lady Arkham.
@kyleco9149
@kyleco9149 2 жыл бұрын
Yess a banger vid.
@MJ-98
@MJ-98 2 жыл бұрын
This was quite lovely
@LeethLee1
@LeethLee1 2 жыл бұрын
duuude amazing
@purpleplanetary
@purpleplanetary 2 жыл бұрын
That music tribute was so good :)
@3athlete
@3athlete 2 жыл бұрын
whoa. shit. the last music vid montage was what got me to post this comment. thank you for the effort.
@flightlessagbsls
@flightlessagbsls 2 жыл бұрын
I love the music tributes
@PeterHSPeter
@PeterHSPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, man!
@jettspyder
@jettspyder 2 жыл бұрын
oh hell yeah I already know this video'll be good
@suto5704
@suto5704 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@edgonlo17
@edgonlo17 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you already!
@bornimusic
@bornimusic Жыл бұрын
Editing on this was god mode
@shawnoleary6031
@shawnoleary6031 Жыл бұрын
Very good. The Batman is my favorite Batman movie to date. Brought the Detective back in Detective Comics, and showed a new Batman new at his game. I loved the video montage with the music at the end. Did you know that the movie was based on Batman Year One and No Man's Land?
@TheMrGiannisgr
@TheMrGiannisgr 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great video to celebrate the announcement of THE BATMAN’s sequel. 🥳
@christianyoung9808
@christianyoung9808 2 жыл бұрын
You brought up an excellent point about Reeves take on Batman. That being someone whom is initially laughed upon by those who come across him until his drive make them begin to believe. It sort of mirrors how I, and probably others, felt about this batman initially. I remember seeing the screen test for the first time and thinking “ah man, really?” After what I felt was the excellent visualization of Batman in the Snyder films, this seemed like a downgrade. However when I saw more and more of Pattinson in the cowl, I slowly but surely came around to it. This is why I think Pattinson might be the one that shines above others who’ve donned the cowl. His physical performance alone gives so much presence to this Batman that I truly believe in him as the character in a way I felt most of the other actors weren’t given the chance to. Mostly due to the limitations of the earlier suits. However to give credit, those limitations did, in a way, give those Batman a distinct body language that defined him in live action for a long time (bat turn). Bale particularly used his first suit’s limitations to create an animalistic edge. He got headaches in it and channeled it to make his Batman fierce. Unfortunately, to me, that was lost with his second suit and he just kinda walked around like a guy in a rubber suit most of the time. Pattinson however had the most comfort and flexibility while still developing a physical performance. Sure his costume is kinda rudimentary compared to the rest of the bat suits, but the filmmaking and Rob Pat really make you look past that. Long post, sorry
@KittMcKay
@KittMcKay 3 ай бұрын
This film was Bruce's journey from being the Bat - a mythical monster that preys on those it's convinced are collectively and intrinsically responsible for his parents' death - to being the Man; coming out of the shadows and into the light, to bring hope back to a city he feels responsible for destroying, even if indirectly
@nikczemna_symulakra
@nikczemna_symulakra 2 жыл бұрын
5:56< oh my rhetorical god!, i know and adore that sound :] It is to find as "Dial-up sound 700% slower (Creepy)" Love it especially on rainy nights and followed by "Walking in the rain" by Flash and the Pan👌😎
@Infamous-K
@Infamous-K 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fantastic video! All hail the Algorithm
@takenname8053
@takenname8053 10 ай бұрын
Super Nice
@TheAcrelicGem
@TheAcrelicGem 3 ай бұрын
It’s really hard to believe the Batman was almost two years ago.
@abiyyufh1566
@abiyyufh1566 Жыл бұрын
11:03 show me your soul🎵
@TheMrGiannisgr
@TheMrGiannisgr 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to Matt Reeves the GOAT!
@kayagoksoy
@kayagoksoy 2 жыл бұрын
Also this Batman hasn't gone on a journey to learn martial arts etc. Alfred taught him.
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын
The real vengeance was the friends he made along the way, awww! (....I just realized I'm surprisingly serious about this joke.)
@suto5704
@suto5704 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm
@arezlopez6021
@arezlopez6021 Жыл бұрын
Riddler in prison looking like vector😭😭😭
@Fegixottero
@Fegixottero Жыл бұрын
i have yet to see the video but to answering the start yeah realistically someone who traveled the world to learn martial arts should have learned to control his anger and let the past die but that’s also what i love about first years batman he’s so angry about what happened to him that all the training he got was just a mean to an end, not the bigger picture he learned all but in his first years he didn’t care about the mind training, only the physical one it embrace the fact that batman stubbornness is not just for how he was trained but also from who he is he is that much stubborn (at least at young age) to assimilate only the stuff he needs in the moment to fight crime and not the bigger lesson about martial arts
@SkatKat
@SkatKat 2 жыл бұрын
Man, your video essay making has improved so much yet still stays essentially you. Hope you are finding it easier.
@masterpig5s
@masterpig5s 2 жыл бұрын
There it is again. Another thing. First it’s Fantastic Four’s “[Problem 101] Solve everything” and now “optimal human”. My brain needs to stop liking stuff like that
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I wanted to talk to about this before you put out of hope. The things that really gets me about you as you see the world as I did. But this is not just the mirror of the riddler and Batman but it’s their very personal context they bring and how that contexts blinds them. As we take the blind assumption that we are watching the riddler and not one of his followers: or partners. He is not physical and sees Batman as the ultimate precision in fear and focused violence. He thought he had found a kindered spirit in bruce. If you take a step back there are some logical decisions discrepancies that suggests he wasn’t trying to kill bruce. Indulge me for a second. 1. The plan, it’s execution, and his level of his disappointment… when his plan to kill bruce Wayne fails. Start with the inconsistent motivations of building up bruce as the most important kill, then only sending a letter prolly dropped by a follower with no one behind to actually make sure bruce got the letter?! 1a. This letter being dropped off was timed, to when Edward sent Batman to the orphanage for more context. This gives a hint that he may know his identity, but the bigger issue is if edward didn’t want to threaten Batman and bruce then why was his not to Batman read “see you in hell” now we are supposed to belief that Edward did not know that was a phrase used to threaten people. See you in hell, the like saying goodbye bc the next time you see each other, you would both be dead. We have to buy that Edward didn’t know that phrase despite his strength in bringing people to his cause. Sorry but he wanted Batman to know he figured out his identity. Not to show him up but to impress him. The logic behind going after bruce Wayne has its own set of rules. No other corrupt person , had such strict crimes. Falcone prolly should answer for his fathers sins as well which were actually crimes. But thomas Wayne didn’t keep his promise bc he was dead at the time!!! So it’s my belief that no one can become a millionaire in Gotham without getting your hands dirty and Alfred is still keeping a lot from bruce. Alfred didn’t go well trained combat intelligence to being a nanny. The Wayne’s needed stronger protection and would still be friendly and give the cartels their piece of the pie. 2.the way bruce and Edward got through their traumas were different completely. Edward was right, Bruce’s money did protect him but also it isolated him from the world. He only understood if he wanted change he had to fight for it himself. Vengeance was his fight to save his parents every night he goes out as Batman. Edward understood you survive through your family and community. So vengeance to him, meant exposing the truth and enacting change. This story never says Edwards a villian. His intentions are more noble then Batman’s. When he says babies died bc of the cold, he gives the impression that he and other orphans kept each other warm through those cold winters. 3. Saying bruce Wayne 4@3 times slowly while wholly focused on Batman’s reaction. He lets him off bc he can see like we do that he cracking. So he lets him off, not to use later but bc that wasn’t the point. He wanted to be friends and revealing his identity doesn’t help that goal. Unfortunately, bruce is not a mature Batman and doesn’t cleverly see this as an opurtunity to find and stop the bombs. Bruce is in a place that’s broken and starts yelling all his thoughts and insecurities about himself. I believe he is projecting and this is his darkest hour. He also rejects Edward who fear of abandonment is triggered . The end up hating each other bc of the mirror shows them they are hypocrites. All in all, it tackles the truth of someone who watched his parents die and how it still eats at him. Best Batman movie so far. The man of steel treatment is exactly the Batman needed. Even El rata lada, honestly sounds like a bat then anything to do with a falcon Good video if you want answer To any point ask here
@ericmiller93
@ericmiller93 Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of performances from this film are being lauded and rightly so, but can I just say John Turturro was magnificent. The mob always plays a large role in early Batman stories, but none of the movies have ever portrayed the ruthlessness of organized crime like Turturro did in this movie. I left the theater thinking Turturro could’ve been Whitey Bulger in another life.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
Riddler not knowing that Bruce is Batman because he believes Bruce is a selfish rich guy who docan't care about Gotham is similar to Vicki Vale in the Telltale Batman game. If you reveal your identity to Vicki to save Alfred she can't reconcile Bruce being the city's hero Batman with her idea that he's as evil as his dad who had her parents murdered causing her to end up with the abusive Vales who only fostered kids for the money.
@shreddhead23
@shreddhead23 Жыл бұрын
🙏💯
@maddenboseroy4074
@maddenboseroy4074 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now you can do a "Comparing Batmen" series.
@Joshua-uw7wm
@Joshua-uw7wm Жыл бұрын
Soooooo true if you find a real master and not a fraud you will learn how to become a better person and the best version of yourself.
@rhylin26
@rhylin26 2 жыл бұрын
Was that a Mass Effect tease?! 🤔
@alcidesbeyond
@alcidesbeyond 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video but was curious about your use of music.. don't you ever get copyright claims? Does it fall under fair use?
@kr1spness
@kr1spness 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really like Batman angry, but I think he should be early on. Although I never thought about his travels having enlightened him, it makes sense; but Batman shouldn't return to Gotham still wanting to use fear as a weapon and having no journey left in his story. I think quintessential Batman should fail his final test in his travels, be unable to have that last lesson click and be frustrated that he was told he hasn't succeeded. I think Batman's journey should conclude when he is Batman, snapping when challenged as Batman, but figuring out to detach himself from vengeance by fighting crime in Gotham. It would be good to see him fail in his travels to give context to his self-actualization, but I do agree that his anger should be moved past early on. He should finish his arc (like Pattinson did, but maybe with more context to his journey) and then have a flat character arc where he doesn't change, but changes others around him (healing/redeeming Robin, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, etc.), like I hope happens in the sequel.
@itscarlitosway696
@itscarlitosway696 Жыл бұрын
😂 man that was a good song regardless of the r.kelly part
@laserbeamlightning
@laserbeamlightning 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you talked about the use of something in the way
@gusmatchain7299
@gusmatchain7299 2 жыл бұрын
Is this you singing?? Sounds great.
@Sly_Cooper-1408
@Sly_Cooper-1408 2 жыл бұрын
6:46 Can someone please explain to me where the pronunciation (Falcone - e) came from? I swear in everything, The Batman, the Gotham TV show, the long Halloween, year one, all the other animated movies it’s always been Falcone, no extra e and then all these youtubeers keep pronouncing it as Falconeeee
@lordbritannic
@lordbritannic Жыл бұрын
Batmans dad didn't commit any sins. A doctor is not responsible for what the people he saves do.
@allisonfernandes4958
@allisonfernandes4958 2 жыл бұрын
He’s vengeance, he’s Gotham’s daddy.
@_Zarick_
@_Zarick_ 2 жыл бұрын
Contrast
@tombrennan7333
@tombrennan7333 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the song used in the tribute section is called? Thank you
@DaniG._.German
@DaniG._.German 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Reeves' Batman is Nate Diaz in a Bat-suit
@user-tu2er2co3w
@user-tu2er2co3w Жыл бұрын
Batinnson takes 5 hits to beat down one random zoomer out in Gotham metro Arkham Batman takes 5 hits to beat down 10 high-skill trained mercenaries. Most soyjak batman ever so far. His plot armor, when criminals with guns are shooting him into chest, but can't aim in head while he stood still is a truly masterpiece. So it's his batsuit's design - bulletproof armor everywhere, except head, which is covered with a rubber mask. The Batman movie is my favorite movie so far, especially when El Rata-Al Lada said "It's batting time"
@littleredruri
@littleredruri 2 жыл бұрын
I'd honestly still like to hear your comparison of this film to others, but like, separately from this video.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын
This movie isn’t perfect and it definitely would’ve worked better as a 6 episode miniseries but the themes are strong with the movie
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
The movie was almost per so I don't what your talking about
@wwalton
@wwalton 5 ай бұрын
The ONLY thing i disagree with is that Orgins take
@emmanueluzobuife8035
@emmanueluzobuife8035 2 жыл бұрын
what was the instrumental playing at the beginning?
@kaioken654
@kaioken654 4 ай бұрын
Fuk that movie was good and refreshing
@emmittaraguz6186
@emmittaraguz6186 Жыл бұрын
Song?
@holbvgbbbbkfz
@holbvgbbbbkfz 2 жыл бұрын
The grant Morrison version of Bruce Wayne is wrong or at least something I don't agree with and you would get it fi you watched Gotham knights or so I think it's called in this animated movie connected to the Nolanverse we follow Bruce on his search for enlightenment in the end he is chased away because he gains the skill and not the philosophy . Batman might be a 6.5 beast of a man but beneath that he is just a kid in an the dark crime filled streets watching his mom's bloody pearls fall to the ground Batman's training is a story of getting your wants and non of your needs
@bclr6843
@bclr6843 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I haven’t got to watch this yet …. I know you don’t touch on it often but any chance this could have some trauma?
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why the batman worked and bvs batman failed
@lityfity4197
@lityfity4197 Жыл бұрын
vbruh yah
@kva7922046
@kva7922046 2 жыл бұрын
FIRST!
@thedoctor2871
@thedoctor2871 2 жыл бұрын
Pattinson's Batman's still a virgin?
@asura7915
@asura7915 2 жыл бұрын
its was just a joke
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын
I see he would be, he’s too reclusive
@d11asian
@d11asian 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. He probably thinks pussy distracts from time he could be spending beating the shit out of criminals
@ethanpickett3000
@ethanpickett3000 10 ай бұрын
I disagree with your take on young angry Batman. It definitely makes sense for his journey through his early years. While being a master of many different fighting styles, and many other arts at his core he's still an 8 year old boy who lost his parents. The soul reason he did all that training is because of his trauma. He makes it his life's mission to become something for criminals to fear. But as he grows he internalizes his anger and he is outwardly emotionless except towards those he cares for.
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your your first point,just becoz you mastered MMa does not mean you can control your dark side
@Meddling_Mage
@Meddling_Mage 2 жыл бұрын
22ND
@corazonenalmibar
@corazonenalmibar 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on second 51 and I've gotta say, there's a worrying absence of something in the way mmmmmmm in this video, dislike
@alinapetrova6359
@alinapetrova6359 2 жыл бұрын
Hermosa eleccion 3😍 PORNTINDER.Uno de mejor siempre en mi corazónl mañas no se la.🌹🤩💜 Son unos de los mejores conciertos.
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