​@Marko Milivojević Rust Because we know very little about the early Anglo Saxon kings. Most of the things that are known is either based on archeology or from documentation written more than 2 centuries later. There is very little contemporary documentation of this period

You mean English history. There ws no Britain or British till the 1700s.

@@GhostsOfTheAngelcynn Actually I mean Britain which is the name of the island. The term Britain pre dates the name England and I was also including Scottish (which I find most interesting due to the amount of different people groups there) and welsh history.

Agreed, but I'd go further and say British history from 10,000 bc to around 1000 ad gets nowhere near enough attention.

@@SgtSteel1 exactly people seem to think the Natives of pre Roman Britain were savages when in fact there was an advanced culture with mass farming and trade in materials and objects that went to and came from as far as Egypt.

Oh same here lol ! 😅

That movie sucked compared to the series

Honestly the Anglo-Saxon era is one of the most interesting sections of English history. The Anglo-Saxons arrived in England, in much the same way as the Vikings later would, and from roughly the same geographic region. They can be seen as a first wave of Germanic invasions into the British isles, with the Vikings being the second wave. They became slightly more civilized and organized it seems, with the introduction of Christianity, but remained very warlike nonetheless. When Athelstan died, it marked the end of three powerful Anglo-Saxon (English) kings from the house of Wessex, who had transformed the political landscape and carved out an English “empire”. History can be cruel however, and it seemed that all of their efforts were undone by the weak king Ethelred the Unready’s erratic reign. The northmen returned in great strength during this time. Despite his successor Edmund Ironside’s valiant efforts, the Danish king Cnut was victorious and became the king of England. Cnut was the head of what was effectively a powerful Danish Empire which had much of Scandinavia under its banner, and adding England to that was immense. Cnut could not hold it all together however, and focused on the wealthy English kingdom, letting bits of his Scandinavian realm fall from his grasp. Luckily for the English, Cnut turned out to be a wise and fair king, largely ruling England in much of the Anglo-Saxon tradition. His son Harthacnut was ineffective, and his half brother Edward the Confessor became king. Edward the Confessor was a very pious man, who did not covet warfare. He had a mixed heritage, and spent a great deal of his life in exile in Normandy, but is considered to be the second last Anglo-Saxon king before Harold Godwinson, who died at the Battle of Hastings. Here, the era of Anglo-Saxon England ended, giving way to the Norman period. The Norman invasion would irreparably change England’s history from that point forward. Even the English language would feel the new cultural influence of the French speaking Normans. I have heard it said that the English language would sound closer to Icelandic or Dutch today, if the Normans had not conquered England in and after 1066.

​@@Jason-gg4lmthe books are amazing

We have to learn about everyone else's aboriginal cultures, as a part of pushing the lefty "White is evil" agenda. The lefty educational establishment in the UK doesn't want to publicise that we ourselves suffered our own cultural apocalypse from outsiders, who slaughtered and enslaved us.... We can't have young impressionable minds feeling sympathy for Britain can we?

What you talking about? All I remember about history was ww2 and Chinese men building rail Roads. History is non existent.

476-1066

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would make people too patriotic, has to be nazis, slavery and henry the 8th

History Time Yeah he really is. I don't really know who he is. I've heard of Alfred the Great and Ethelred the unready but tbh from Alfred to Edward the Confessor I don't really know the kings and exploits between that

Whenever a coffee shop asks for my name for my order, I answer "the same as the first king of England". Guess how many times anyone has known what it is?

RS2Russ r/iamverysmart

Manuel Migoya ha was thinking the exact same

Aethelstan is the most underrated English ruler of all time, imo.

Yep reminds me of Friday night after a pub crawl.

Faceless Man no cavalry?

Typical of the Dark Ages. A decent Greek or Roman general would trash these morons!!!

@Terry Blanton lol I just saw it. damned auto correct

@@gerardjagroo Yes. But there were none of those there. All that counts is who wins on the day.

@ And first millenium Britain was not?! There were Angles, Danes, Saxons, Norvegians, Celts, Picts, and the lot. And I'm missing many more.

Also we The English have Lost are native Anglo Saxon Tongue! A Beautiful language in its self....

Bro the Anglo Saxon’s where invaders. The native britons fought them after the Roman’s left and where bushes to Cornwall wales and Brittany. King Arthur’s legend originates with him a Briton fighting Saxon invaders

@@michaelferrell7924 So there was nobody in the land before the Britons?

@@marypetrie930 the culture that developed from the Britain’s where descended predominantly from the islands original settlers who moved up from Gaul

dont forget kings and generals :)

Thanks for the call out on that channel. Never heard of it and now have already watched 2 vids and will be watching a few more tonight. Great channel.

Fenniks al three are boss lol awesome #fall of Pompey LOLOLOLOLOL sorry I acted drunk there

to be fair, England has over 1000 years of history, with only the last 200 or so having details.

@@SantomPh There is an absolute goldmine of details concerning the period if one can be bothered to look. It is a combination of cultural amnesia and downright laziness on the part of our so-called educators that have allowed this dismissal of seven plus centuries of our history.

White people have no culture or history

@@torinjones3221 stop trolling loser

No we have to learn about black history month every month

History Gaming Verified Bruh I will pay you to never say that again.

Patreon will probably launch at the end of the month so keep that thought in mind. ;)

Yass is a meme? Maybe I am too old for this, I just used it as a Germanized yes...as in Germany we would say Ja. :P Also, my wife is partially Scottish.

Well, in Germany we do...^^

pathetic pandering

Lel XD

You mean the bastard

the bastard* "Hey Willie, how is your father!?" -I, i never knew him very well

@Adam Defibaugh Grow up child.

@kane benjamite ok boomer

king of england not britain (also not england quite but nearly) the video doesn't mention that the battle resulted in the end of his overlordship of the scottish kingdoms. it was a victory militarily for him but in reality it was a political victory for the scottish nations who ensured there independence as a result of the battle. finally a not on the inaccuracies of the video, i know he has to take sides in order to present a compelling narrative but doing so limits the perspective and causes some quite frequent and silly inaccuracies and misunderstandings such as the above. also silly things like there was no alba at this point it formally became scotland when constatine (cant spell his name sorry) took the throne being describes as the first king of scotland and even then it was only one king that was described as being a king of alba that being his predecessor before him they where the kings ofthe pics.

One wonders if King Aethelstan had any part to play in the deaths of his brother and king of north of umbria

@@jamesmcabla1772also I figure at this point, 'England' and 'Scotland' weren't anywhere near the fixed concepts they are today. So it can be confusing to make too much of big thing over whether this marked the birth of the kingdoms of either England or Scotland. A pivotal moment between the two crowns for sure, but geographically there was much still to be decided. Aethelstan's 'England' included Edinburgh, since it had been part of the kingdom of Northumbria, but not Carlisle which was part of the kingdom of Strathclyde.

he was the king of a unified Anglo Saxon realm. England itself has not been formalized yet and neither was Scotland, with Cornwall still being a fief outside of Saxon reckoning. As for the battle, it was a literal meat grinder since both forces were really similar. A cavalry unit here or there could have changed the situation greatly.

@@SantomPh *Maybe*. It depends on whether the ground and setting were suitable for cavalry and flanking. The battlefield seems to be bounded by forest on both sides. No good for flanking attacks. But who knows?

Ikr!lol

The books version of uhtred wasn't a real person. He is a fictional character in a somewhat non fiction story. He does have some roots in a different part of history since he is based on a lord during the 11th century, but uhtred nevee fought for king alfred, he didn't fight in the great heathen invasion and he wasn't even alive for those events.

@@daltonevans3412 I know. It was a joke. Hence "historical records" in quotation marks. And the two "smiley faces".

Great books though

@@daltonevans3412 true, i think he fought for Edmund Ironsides prior to Canutes(Knut) reign, Edmonds son went into exile and his son Edgar Atheling returned to England and had a fascinating life which is hardly mention in history lessons, you could rigth 10 books on him, his sister Margeret married the king of Scotland and later became a saint and her grand daughter was the Empress Matilda, Henry Plantagenate married her and her son Henry II became king after King Stephen technically bringing back the Wessex line to the throne.

previously. Local folk lore suggests the battle occurred a few miles to the West around modern Brombrough / Brakenwood, on the River Mersey side of the Peninsular. Wirral today has many Norwegian Viking place names. Wirral was one of the three forests of Cheshire as recorded a few years later in the Domesday Book - Delamere and Knutsford being the others. It is not known if any of the Wirral Vikings, from the North of Wirral participated for either side.

@@williamanderson5437 they certainly had form...Ingismund and his warband after their expulsion from Dublin, were granted land on the wirral by Aethelflaed the lady of Mercia in 902 ??...to show their gratitude they attacked Chester, but Athelflaed was forewarned and even persuaded Ingismund, s Irish confederates to switch sides...

Burnley on the river Brun.

This isn't British medieval history!!! The term British wouldn't be a thing for several hundred years later. Couldn't you see for your self in the video that the people and nations of the what would become known as Britain were all still separate?! Please use the correct terminology for the time period.

This is the dark ages not medieval

This period is, in my opinion, far more interesting than the Middle Ages in Britain post William the Conquerer

@lvan Big Nob No...the term British is wrongly applied to the Britons. The term British didn't exist until the formation of the United Kingdom. Which since has gone onto be used as interchangeable with English.

@Pneumonocolvocanomicroscopicsilicolvocano-coniosis Yes....Geographically! But you cant use it as it wasn't being applied in that time period. It confuses people If you use wrong terminalogy for a certain time period. As I stated....The term British wouldn't be applied until the formation of the political union of the Countries on The island of Britain.

I believe Bromborough is seen as the most likely place, which I'm guessing Baz here has used, but also there are other contenders, it's one of those great historical mysteries, like 'where are the Catalaunian Fields?

@@mcallisterwill yea I remember watching time team a while ago on the same subject and they were in Bromborough itself but did say that it could be the right place but not 100% sure .

just you wait untill the triangles join the fray... bloody slaughter!

It was in bromborough in New Chester road

It's now believed the location is Bromborough Golf Course

Is there any news on when this will be published?

@@663lotty maybe a quiet word with the Wirral archeologists...best wishes from a quiet Wirralian..

I work at the Council, so will do that. Thanks.

Visigoth Runs Far I know right? I've only started watching this series a few months ago and love it , a little iffy on the "modern " stuff but still enjoyable series

it gets me drooling ;-)

And I think the Cuerdale hoard was buried on the escape back north. I imagine it was weighing them down and slowing them too much so they buried it somewhere they'd remember. It probably started out as booty to pay a now dead army, but for whatever reason they never got round to coming back for it. Seems if you're on the Wirral and you're trying to get back to Scotland ASAP you'd most likely ford the Ribble about there cause at low tide there are parts you can walk across. I can see from my window where that hoard was found and it seems the most likely route from A to B and why it found its way there.

I don't think they'll do what you want when you seem so desperate. By this I mean you stating the number of attempts. This is just sad.

i dont know, they've done some pretty fucking out there battles, like the battle of visby or battle of miyajima

You seem to have a chip on you're shoulder, relax bro. If they don't want to do it then they can ignore me.

i believe so. i haven't been actively asking, but i've been super hyped for any Battle of Towton videos that may eventually come

Guys don't worry kings and generals will cover Towton in their series on the Wars of the Roses.

History teaching has changed in England in the last 40 years, Anglo Saxon and Viking history is on the primary school curriculum. However, because of the lack of sources other periods of history are studied in more detail.

Cheshire born and bred. My family have been here since well before 1066 and a few places are named after us. The golf course should be dug up, there are too many of the things infesting Cheshire.

I thought it was a rusty 5 iron in the trap

Alan Thomas Wirral Merseyside

I do doubt it, if they actually thought it was there they could dig it up and confirm. 15000 dead bodies don't just vanish

@@ste2442 CH postcode mate, Its Wirral, Cheshire. Plus its not rumoured to be under Bromborough golf course it was meant to be on Bebington Common which is now around the acorn pub all the way down to the croft business park thats about 3 to 4 miles.

To understand a battle you have to know the larger context in which it took place. And anyway give them a break, they didn't fight the damn battle.

There was a long period where a lot of battles were like this

Agreed. Not an exciting battle, but really interesting politics leading up to it so I'm good with it

Trygve Plaustrum actually handreds of battles were fought like this throughout Asia but they weren't documented well

Show some appreciation to people that creates such amazing historical content.

I came, I saw, I liked, I commented, I subscribed, I turned on notifications.

The church I built became a mosque

Indeed...

soapbaxter92 Michael Wood disagrees! Have you ever read the Saxon battle poem on Brunanburh - lots of blood, guts and Anglo-Saxon gloating!

@@Wombat1916 post Bernard Cornwell, s series of Uhtred novels, opinion has swung over to the wirral peninsula, Wirral archeologists even presented Bernard Cornwell with a dagger retrieved from the battle site ,which he referenced in his last novel...best wishes from the wirral

The anglo saxons and vikings did not use archers nor cavalry by that time. The shieldwall was their way

*Their Kingdom. Your statement might confuse some idiots into thinking "The United Kingdom". Cause let's be honest....they are out there.

Was a Scottish king that got the English throne to make the union

i agree with the two comments above me plus this battle actually resulted in the end of English over lordship of the Scottish kingdoms so actually did the complete opposite of unite the kingdom as might be misunderstood

@@jamesmcabla1772 This video is nonsense mate...He states that the Welsh were almost subservient to the English in this period. The Kingdom of England (after being conquered themselves by the same people, The Normans) wouldn't have control over parts of Wales for another 200 years! Or so.

@@taffyducks544 i know its takes a very Anglo-centric approach to this and as a result leaves people with a half arsed understanding of the topic normally simply for narrative value

why don't you do them yourselves you ungrateful shit

@Matharox, chill bro. He's just making a suggestion.

Matharox go see a doctor boy

Matharox dude stfu he's making a suggestion

It's a shame but the Byzantine empire rarely appears in history shows. My entire schooling from K-12 never even mentioned the Eastern Roman Empire other then "The Byzantine Emperor called the Pope for help which kicked off the Crusades". It's like we have a complete blindspot when it comes to one of the greatest empires in history :/

Unfortunately they are always changing what they teach about every 10 years. When I went to school we did learn about the vikings and we covered king Alfred but that it

Wist Man he was a Saxon. But as I said they change what they teach every ten years. I am friends with someone who works in a school. And they change what they teacher every ten years in things like history, English, religious studies,physical education.

Wist Man as a child I was taught about early Saxon England. Then most of the Norman period. Then things like tudors, Victorian times , then as you beg to secondary school you do more stuff on the word wars and we did a lot of subjects on hitler and now he came to power.

Under the golf course, I'm reliably informed!... various places claim the battle, but to me, logic implies the Wirral., convenient for the Viking ships from Dublin also a sea route from Straethclud!

@@alanthomas2064 Tom Sleman a local author has written extensively about the hauntings around the battle site, he has a weekly column in the Wirral Globe available online...

Thanks Eamonn, l will look the author up!

Only they lied about the Welsh being subjugated in this time period! Wouldn't happen for another 300 years or so.

I hate how they always take the credit away from Saxons and hand it over to a made up “Viking helper” character.

@@guccifer764 Yes, and ole Uhtred would have been 70 - 80 when he finally won back his precious home. bah.

@@anglishbookcraft1516 Uhtred is a Saxon that was raised by Danes. also did you not watch any of the last kingdom all the Saxons like Alfred,Edward,Beocca, are all badass. if anything it is the danes that are the wumps in the series which makes sense seeing as in actual history Alfred the great spent his entire reign kicking the danes asses up and down england. the last kingdom simply gives us an inside fictional look into how he was able to achieve this.

Top DLC that. Have you got the Brytenwalda mod as well? I hope the mod/dev team for them make something for Bannerlord too.

Because Hastings signalled a significant change in the ruling elite. That's a pretty big deal. But I agree, these earlier battles are the reason England exists, so should be a bigger deal really.

Lee Walton I believe he's just a lone knight with a humble squire ;)