The Benefit of Installing Multiple Well Pressure Tanks

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Liberty DIY

Liberty DIY

7 жыл бұрын

Tanks found on Craigslist tested and working. Flotec and Teal 20 gallon tanks. Goulds jet pump 20 gallon tank combo. Installed with 3/4" copper and 18" 3/4" Sharkbite hoses, 1" stainless steel and PVC

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@hemimataele6954
@hemimataele6954 5 жыл бұрын
Can you add a step by step video on adding additional tanks? And how would you add an additional tank to an outside well water housing?
@shyamdevadas6099
@shyamdevadas6099 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful video. Your narration is very clear and coherent.
@Hollywood4Fun
@Hollywood4Fun 8 ай бұрын
Are you using those extra tanks just as reservoirs? I see motors on top of them are those hooked up too?
@aarondoerschel1039
@aarondoerschel1039 Жыл бұрын
I sure wish every do-it-yourself video on KZfaq was as clear and well thought out as this one. Well done! Could I please ask you a question regarding a two-party well and the relationship with pressure tanks? I have a 72 ft well that puts out 12 gallons per minute and my neighbor and I intend to use that to supply both of our homes. In this setup, would we have a very large tank before the water tees off to each house or would there be a separate tank on each system? Neither of our homes are built yet, I have a nice 4' x 6' pump house constructed right next to the well and his house will be approximately 270 ft from the well and mine will be 60 ft from the well. Both of our homes, as well as the pump house, will all be at the same elevation. Thank you so much in advance!
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
Thank you. In theory you could have a large tank in the pump house and tanks in the homes as well if you want more capacity on hand.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 7 жыл бұрын
For the purposes of this video only one pump is in use, the but all three tanks are in parallel so they act as one large tank, filling and draining together. I lost some tank capacity by running the pump with a 15 psi spread (40 on 55 off). A 20 psi spread would allow me to use more of the tanks capacity but then the pressure in the house would spend more time below 40psi which is not ideal for the R/O drinking water system. More of this is explained in my well pump switch video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL-nlpt3tpa8hHU.html Not long ago I changed the system again by adding a rain water barrel and dedicating one pump and one tank to the R/O drinking water system kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q5NnYKdot7PHk40.html
@thebranch983
@thebranch983 3 ай бұрын
What about,im wanting to add a tank on the roof of my cabin,so i can gather heat for preheater for my water heater ,cause my water temp is super cold coming from my well,soon as water hits the heater it has to kick on everytime
@Galaxieman
@Galaxieman 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and really nice setup of your water system. I noticed the flexible hose you have from pump discharge to tank system. What size is it and what type of fittings on each end. I am trying to do a similar hookup but cannot find stainless flex hose with NPT couplings on each end. My pump has 1 inch discharge. Thanks
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I reduced from 1" to 3/4 and used a 3/4 sharkbite hose from Supplyhouse.com. Would something like this work for you? www.supplyhouse.com/SharkBite-U3086FLEX24LF-3-4-Sharkbite-x-1-FIP-Water-Softener-Hose-24-Lead-Free
@Galaxieman
@Galaxieman 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to maintain the full 1 inch opening from the pump to the storage tank, so 3/4 SharkBite lines are too small. Any idea where I could get a full 1 inch dia flexible connection?
@mitchdenner9743
@mitchdenner9743 5 жыл бұрын
@@Galaxieman grainger
@wyattsouth2085
@wyattsouth2085 3 жыл бұрын
Hey quick question I’m replacing my well pump and went ahead and upgraded my pressure tank to a larger one but nothing was wrong with my old tank my question is can I run dual pressure tanks if they aren’t the same size thanks.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
Yes you can, as long as the air pressure is set the same on both tanks or close
@mikeches7992
@mikeches7992 4 жыл бұрын
If I want to add one more pressurerised tant to my existing 86 Gal. Tank does it have to be the same amount of gallons ?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
Yes you can mix different sizes as long as you set the air pressure the same or close.
@arnoldromppai5395
@arnoldromppai5395 3 жыл бұрын
i know this is an old video. and most likely no one even responds to it, i see the OP has not responded to anyone.. , but, i was given a fairly new big tank in like new shap, it stands about 5.5 feet tall. my main tank one about 3 feet tall. with all my live stock, my pump down in the drilled well was starting and stopping all the time, so i though i would just set this big tank next to my other tank and tee into out outlet pipe off the manifold, and connected a peace of 3/4" pex pipe from the tee, into a fitting in the bottom of the big tank, i checked the bladder presser in both tanks, draining my main tank to get the right bladder presser, i set the bladder presser in both tanks to the same presser of 6Lbs, my presser switch is set to 40/60, i put a ball valve in the line going to the big tank,, i started the pump back up and open the ball valve, my main small tank filled up and cut out at 60psi, but to my surprise nothing went in to the big tank at all, they been hooked up over a year now, and the big tank has never filled, why is this, ? it should in my mind, but not the case
@mitchdenner9743
@mitchdenner9743 3 жыл бұрын
Pressure in tanks should be set 2 to 3 psi lower than your cut in pressure. If your cut in and cut out pressures are 40 and 60, then your tank pressure needs to be set at 37 to 38 psi in both tanks.
@MrHemi4spd
@MrHemi4spd 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing went into it? It has some obstruction then.
@stevebutrimas9972
@stevebutrimas9972 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t explain how the extra tanks work to provide for less pump on time or whatever they do.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 10 ай бұрын
You can get higher pressure and less pump cycling
@bexler531
@bexler531 6 жыл бұрын
I want to add an extra pressure tank. Do I have to add an additional pump or can I just use one pump for both tanks and do the tanks needs to be close together or can I put them 100 ft a part one for my main house and one for my garage in back of my property?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
ACLC Houston you do not need a second pump and yes you can put them far apart from each other. You just have to make sure your pump can achieve the cut off pressure with the tank that far away and you're good
@bexler531
@bexler531 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks do I put 2nd tank in line with first pressure tank or do I run a T split so one pvc pipe goes to tank a and another pvc pipe to tank b and if so does tank b also need a pressure gauge.
@kelvinjohnson8939
@kelvinjohnson8939 6 жыл бұрын
ACLC Houston m
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
ACLC Houston you can put the tank anywhere you want in the plumbing system and it will be in parallel with the other tank. No need for a separate pressure gauge, it will equalize throughout the entire system when the pump kicks off
@MichiganPeatMoss
@MichiganPeatMoss 5 жыл бұрын
What's the optimal goal? Reduce motor cycles on the pump to extend life? Other benefits for the mechanicals? I have one tank and would like to add a 2nd. In a smaller cottage the noise of the pump even in a crawlspace is a little annoying as well even after dampening the supply line with a rubber hose. thx - 2019-08-27.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about having two tanks is I can go with a narrower pressure range of 15 psi instead of 20 psi and still have pretty good capacity. For example I could run 40/55 PSI.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 5 жыл бұрын
I try to reduce the number of objects that I cant handle by myself and it's much easier to handle 20 gallon tanks than 45 gallon tanks. People make fun of me but I have a bunch of mini fridges instead of one big fridge LOL
@TonyDiscenza
@TonyDiscenza 4 жыл бұрын
Parallel tanks of equal capacity should reduce cycling by 50%, no? Also, should one tank fail (e.g., bladder rupture) I assume the system will remain functional, albeit shorter cycles.
@TonyDiscenza
@TonyDiscenza 4 жыл бұрын
@@LibertyDIY I'm curious: why wouldn't you want the full 20 PSI range (40 > 60)?
@howardredder3582
@howardredder3582 Жыл бұрын
My pump kicks on at 30psi...and my bladder tank is set at 35. Explain what you said about pressure will drop real quick.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
The way you are set up, the air pressure will collapse the bladder before the pump kicks on. So you would get a sudden drop in water pressure each time before the pump kicks on.
@kristadearing8473
@kristadearing8473 Жыл бұрын
Looking for some factual knowledge please. Our system of 60 homes on 2 wells has 60k gallons of storage but all running thru one bladder tank. And these parts are at elevation X, along with say 6 homes. The rest of the homes are sprinkled at elevations on down to 200 ft lower than X, and maybe a half mile away. We every few months get complaints from the higher homeowners that water pressure has fallen very low, apparently when someone elsewhere is doing something like filling their pool. Q- would a 2nd and maybe 3rd bladder tank help significantly reduce the pressure drop at these highest homes during these circumstances? Thank you. Dwight
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
Yes you can think of each bladder tank as a battery in parallel and you can locate them strategically to address pressure issues. 200 ft of elevation change is enough to make pressure of its own, so that might complicate your situation.
@zeautees924
@zeautees924 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question. Can a pressure tank work without a pump?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can add a pressure tank up if you have municipal water. It will not increase pressure on its own but it can reduce the pressure drop during showers etc. If you need to increase pressure you can add a booster pump with the tank.
@masterplumber9471
@masterplumber9471 2 жыл бұрын
How did you hook the two tanks together off the tank to the right from your well You ran it from your well over to your two pressure tanks how did you time them together
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the air pressure is set the same inside both tanks, they should reach empty approximately the same time.
@masterplumber9471
@masterplumber9471 2 жыл бұрын
@@LibertyDIY Thank you.
@bp6992
@bp6992 4 жыл бұрын
Do the tanks have to be the same size?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
You can mix sizes
@bexler531
@bexler531 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have to put on each tank a water pressure gauge or just on the first one?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
ACLC Houston you can put a pressure gauges anywhere in the system you want to check, usually before and after filters is a good place
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
ACLC Houston but if you mean pressure relief valve, that also could be anywhere in the system and it would serve all the tanks because they are in parallel
@bexler531
@bexler531 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fast reply. I am confused about lined up in series and parallel. It is my understanding that tank should be lined in series or lined up one after another on the same pvc/copper water flow line?
@mitchdenner9743
@mitchdenner9743 3 жыл бұрын
@@bexler531 in one tank out to the next, and repeat. Install a tee on each tank and connect them all together. Check valve ( oneway) valve before first tank, gauges any where downstream. Drain valve and overpressure valve any where downstream.
@RoarToTheShore
@RoarToTheShore 6 жыл бұрын
Question for you. I have a 2 gallon pressure tank on my well for my sprinkler system. I tried to run an outdoor shower from the well, but with the shower head, I dont seem to get enough water flow and the pump kicks on and off, which I know is not good ( I run a hose on the lawn while using the shower to keep the pump on). My question is, would a larger pressure tank solve my problem? Or is it a lot more complicated to make my shower work off my well? Thank you for any help. Kenney D
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
You might be able to remove a water saver from inside the shower head to increase flow and keep the pump on that way. My pump does stay on during the entire shower even though I currently have 2 pressure tanks hooked up. Not a big problem if pump kicks on and off a few times though.
@RoarToTheShore
@RoarToTheShore 6 жыл бұрын
I removed the restrictor, but still not enough flow.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
You could put a ball valve between the pump and tank and use that to restrict the flow there, so the tank fills more slowly the pump will stay on during the shower.
@RoarToTheShore
@RoarToTheShore 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help
@zairelbico8071
@zairelbico8071 Жыл бұрын
Hi, whats the Best air pressure for this tank?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
I have my well pump switch set for 40/55 psi so the tank air pressure is set at 38 psi
@TylerFrancetich
@TylerFrancetich Жыл бұрын
How is the electrical done?
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY Жыл бұрын
You set the air pressure in each tank about 2 PSI below the cut on pressure of your switch. So if it's a 30/50 pressure switch, the air pressure in each tank (empty the tank k water first) would be 28 psi. If you want to increase the cut on pressure of your pressure switch then you would have to increase the air pressure in each tank also but as long as there's the same psi, they will basically act as one big tank
@FlexPVC
@FlexPVC 2 жыл бұрын
You should know that standard pressure tanks are not designed for RO water systems. They will eventually fail. It's very hard to find RO rated tanks over 40 gal. rated, so you'll end up going with multiple small tanks. That junk you are finding in your tank is not right. That is probably iron from your pump and any steel fittings on your std pressure tanks. Just advising you now. Hopefully these have not failed yet.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
I don't use these tanks for RO water I'm just using them to pressurize water before the RO system
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
But they are being filled with rain water pulled directly from the rain barrel which is about 5 tds
@FlexPVC
@FlexPVC 2 жыл бұрын
@@LibertyDIY TDS is not the issue. pH is the issue. RO water is acidic. That causes the steel fittings to rust/corrode over time. If your pH is 7 or above you are okay.
@jeffreyjohnson9268
@jeffreyjohnson9268 4 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a centrifugal pump to provide constant pressure. It would dramatically reduce the the amount of fittings, switches etc
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to cycle stop valve? I looked into that quite a bit and even experimented with a valve on the output side of my pump to measure wattage. The wattage did not decrease with flow so it would increase the electric cost and pump noise in that area of the basement. My pump runs nonstop during showers anyway so it's not cycling often. On top of all that the cost of the cycle stop valve itself was more than a used pump and tank. So I ruled that out but if someone is very limited on space I can see how a CSV would help in that situation.
@truth6600
@truth6600 2 жыл бұрын
Stagnation of the water.
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, if air pressure is too low, it will leave a lot of water in the bladder each pump cycle.
@oakvue45
@oakvue45 6 жыл бұрын
Multiple pressure tanks are a great idea...but to go through all this nice work and install old tanks is not worth it...new tanks that size are only a couple hundred bucks
@LibertyDIY
@LibertyDIY 6 жыл бұрын
You have a point there. Part of my plan was to be able to swap tanks in and out easily when/if they need service or to test other tanks. You can get a brand new "20 gallon" tank for $130. These 3 Craigslist tanks are still serving me well though.
@PaintSlinger99
@PaintSlinger99 5 жыл бұрын
The new takes are cheap because they are garbage and made poorly. Some of the older models outlive the new ones.
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