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Well said! Personally I prefer the classic looks of the Submariner over the wave dial and helium escape valve of the Omega - but both are solid options either way.

That dude in the restaurant is wearing a super rep and you'll never know

I own this same model Sub and what pople don't realize is the that the build quality is what makes it special. It feels solid beyond any other watch at least that's what I first noticed. There are no gaps between any parts of the watch and nothing jingles or jangles.

I own a Rolex SD43. While it’s a lovely piece and because I also enjoy my Z blue Milgauss, I find myself gravitating towards some of the Breitling Super ocean heritages and special edition (Bond and heritage) Seamasters as a compelling better value diver alternatives (than my SD43). Thanks for the comparisons. God bless.

Loved this video. Resonated so much. Keep up the good work

I have both. 2 tone Submariner and a green Seamaster on the rubber strap. Love both and it's part of my rotation.

Thank you for this video, may I ask what the brand and model of your glasses are please? They look like they fit a narrow head well like 45mm lens.

The best diver watch in the world is what you like, not what others wear.

I bought my Omega for all the reasons you mentioned, Max. I got a Seamaster Diver 300M for its history, quality, value, metas certification, etc., and because I could afford it and the local boutique had plenty to choose from. I get Rolex's following, but my next watch will be another Omega or perhaps a GS.

I owned the Omega Seamaster 300m No Time To Die, which was beautiful to behold in its shades of brown, great comfort with titanium bracelet, and thinner than normal 300m. Alas, it's gone now, as I couldn't read the time in low light conditions( such as my lounge in the evening, or a restaurant) which bugged me over time. Replaced with 14060m Sub, which gives me retro vibes and modern movement. Likely to get me another 300m, but in white on rubber as a beater. To be clear, don't think you will be disappointed owning either.

I love my 62 MAS Seiko, period!

I like the 3/4 zip pullover you’re wearing in this video? Where can I get one?!

Man, if you had to choose one the Sub wins the versatility award. It’s so function built in design it’s hard to say no. However, best for me is always vintage with those. And pre-coaxial Seamasters are a joy to wear. Those cases are so thin and with the SS bezel variations you really have stunning piece. I say 5513 with WG dial markers and an early 2000s Seamaster are gives you joy in every way! Plus ease of servicing ;-) But in modern, it’s so subjective. Both so well… or just table flip and get a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms lololol

I bought a white SMP on rubber as I felt I probably should have one. I kept it in the rotation for just over 18 months during which time a desire for a black watch lead me to the Captain Cook Ceramic from Rado. Despite being a much lower spec watch, the CC moved me in a way that the SMP never really did and so the SMP has left the building while the CC looks set for a long and happy home alongside an Oris Upcycle for those alternative dive duty days. I agree that the Sub now denotes someone wanting to buy a Rolex, rather than wanting to buy a great tool watch, which is a bit of a shame really.

As far as I’m concerned, the biggest problem with Rolex are all the judgmental mouth-breathers who make assumptions when they see someone with a Rolex. I’ve been into the hobby for decades, enjoy many brands, but the Sub is my go-to. No gimmicks, just great quality and classic design.

I went for the SM300 NTTD, it’s so unique and beautiful. And still leave a place in my collection for a more classic Sub later in my life.

I really love omega. Have previously owned the 1861 Speedy and an Aqua Terra... but i really hope they can create a watch similar in proportions to the new black bay 54...a diver which is 37-39mm and around 11mm thick would be incredible... as things stand, many of their watches are just too thick and chunky...i would also love a solid case back with the waves on the back, like the old Bond seamasters... I'll just have to wait! I'm sure one day they release something compact and elegant

Just regulated my Citizen Promaster NY0086 pepsi to +/-2 spd. It is now my favorite dive watch. Especially since I won it in a giveaway from @JustOneMoreWatch . Thanks Jody!

For me it comes down to fit only . Sold the sd43 and bought the stock standard omega 210.30 black wave dial and glad I did and so is my pocket. Each to their own, highly subjective, both

i have the regular blue SMP 300M and absolutely love it. i respect the sub and how timeless/classic it is, but i also find basically all subs boring except for the bluesy. the SMP 300M has a lot more character to it and makes it more fun.

Rolex sub, simple, classic beautiful, iconic design.Looks great on the wrist.

Sir Edmund Hillary wore a Smiths De Luxe when he summited Everest, Tenzing wore a Rolex.

i will go with my heart, i agree on this with you for Omega

Enjoyed this video, good points. But for divers I own Seiko over Rolex and Omega because European cost too much for me.

Any MM300, or any professional tuna.

I would look for a vintage two line no date Sub over a new one. I own 4 Omega SMPs of various colors and metals ... I love the new Bond, but no space in my collection right now. Vintage Sub for my money. Great content.

I love most Omegas, but not the skeleton hands versions. I just can't see what time it is at night due to the lack of lume.

I own an Omega 2531.80 that I recently took in for a full service at Omega, I sometimes gaze at it for several minutes with admiration, it's a total keeper. For the price if I purchased a Rolex Sub I would probably sell it after a while, to plain looking and don't want to get my arm cut if somebody tried to steal it.

I have a sub and love it. I also have multiple Seiko’s, a Grand Seiko, a Casio G-Shock, and a few other watches I wear in rotation. The watch that gets the most comments: Vostok Amphibia. Everyone asks about it, it’s not the norm, in a sea of people wearing Apple Watches and fashion brands at the office, the Vostok does not fit in. I kind of like it that way, it’s just not normal. It also helps its super cheap…😂

I'd love the Omega if they'd ditch the skeleton hands for the Sword hands and thin the case down. I mean, I NEVER look at the back of my watch case while wearing it.. so that means nothing to me personally. Both are great pieces but the NoDate Sub wins in my book.

With the Omega you get that awkward bracket to lug design. Idk, on some vintage models that works, but given it’s modern design aesthetic it just looks cheap (imo of course).

Get what you want. I never wanted a Black Bay. I saw one in a Jewelery store, tried it on and it spoke to me. It was the Black Bezel Heritage 41mm. I fell in love with it and bought it. If it doesn’t speak to you immediately, then look at something else.

Me watching this while waiting for my MM300 to arrive: 👀

I broke the pearl pip off my ceramic submariner recently. I’ve had my submariner for around 5 years in total, I daily wear it as a equipment mechanic. So I brought it in for service and felt naked without a watch which led me to buy a grey and blue omega seamaster 300… ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! Runs about +1 second a day, it’s nice looking, I love the bracelet and the adjustability. For a watch that is a few thousand LESS than my submariner the seamaster punches in pretty high. I’m very happy with it so far BUT I can’t wait to get my sub back, it’s been a part of me for 5 years.

I have a bb58 black dial then buy a sea-master 55th 007 version，both got the vintage look and both can purchase at listed price… i got discount for both 🤗

I would prefer an updated 'Pre-Bond' Seamaster with no release valve, a sapphire crystal, better lume, and a modern movement. Then you have a classic design, authentic 39mm diver. They could even keep the 200m rating!

Hey man ,You need to look at Favre Leuba dive watches..

I have both watches you referenced and I love both. However, I would pic the Sub it is what first drew me to watches, I own the 16610, 16610lv, 16613 and 124060. People hate on Rolex because of AD’s and now it’s trendy.

So who is this San Diego connection? I’m in North County (Carlsbad) and would definitely enjoy meeting some other watch fanatics!

I felt the same way when the AD called me. I felt obligated to buy it... at least I can sell it 😊. I actually like my Marathon GSAR more. Its suits me better.

a bro with a big bonus check.....LOVE IT🤣 that's a Rolex owner

I'm a Bond fan, my first decent watch was the "Goldeneye" Seamaster and the Casino Royale Planet Ocean. At the time (2007) my friend showed me his Sub which I'd always admired, until I felt the bracelet and heard the price differential. I still like the look of a no date sub but would not risk death by a thousand cuts by my wife for spending £10k on a watch, She'd have me committed. Saying that, the No Time To Die Seamaster is now in a similar price Realm. My own grail watch is the Spectre Seamaster 300. I prefer this model for the absence of the helium escape valve. I'd recently texplained the Rolex waiting list/ purchase history thing to my mate. He couldn't believe it. On a recent shopping trip I took him into a large jeweller and expressed interest in a Rolex Explorer. He couldn't believe it when they said they could add me to their " Register Of Interest." However, I could walk out with any Omega they had. Enough said I think.

I own a sub. But the only thing keeping me from buying the Omega is the helium escape valve. It kills me. My friend say's you don't notice it after awhile, but I'm just not buying it.

The Omega isn’t cheaper in the UK, both retail at £7700

I have both the new 41mm sub and a current gen Seamaster. I also had the past gen 40mm sub. I love them both but even for the same price, I would choose the Omega.

I wish the Omega didn't have Crane Fly hands - sword hands and no gimmick animation James Bond thing on the back and this would be the perfect watch.

I like the new SMP, but it is a tad too big for my liking, and the links on the bracelet are longer than on my SMP (Bond quartz 'Goldeneye' model).

I like both. I started this crazy journey of wat collecting in 1992. I will say this, I have never flipped an Omega, but have sold numerous of the other. Now I have around 12 Omega, ranging from the 1930's to today. I have zero Rolex.

I haven't had a desire to pick up a dive watch a couple I like. Then there's one I came across that I like the concept behind it, The brand Relax, The diver is called the substitute instead of the submariner😊 It runs off a Seiko 4r35 movement if I remember correctly.

Get on the list. Do not wait for it. Buy it when you can. Think about anything else later, you are never losing money… And, this watch is great.

Since you show a lot of Matrix scenes in this vid, how about Hamilton Pulsar Matrix Edition in your next video? haha Anyway, both Subbie and Seammie are great, but I would choose Seammie due to price concerns. PS. I did cosplay Trinity once.

I like both so I got both. 😊

For my money, I got the Tudor. Great watch, less price, still says "watch nerd"

This isn’t a fair comparison, the sub in this video is the older model 114060. There is a newer model 124060 with the 3230 Rolex movement with paraflex shock absorbers. That would be an “even” comparison with this Omega.

The diver watch I actually really want is a Sinn U50T

I have both. And tbh, I wear my SMP a lot more.

Fun video, thank you. The best? If you don't measure the quality of the watch by price, "the best", imo is a Scurfa D1, Ti. I own or have owned all three. I still own a well-worn Rolex SD and Sub from the late '80s. Today I wear a Scurfa. I've also bought Rolexes knowing full well I'd flip it for a profit. Sadly, if that is why you bought a Rolex, there is going to be little satisfaction and not much of a watch experience there.

I own the 2531.80 and 2220.80 wave dial Seamaster. It was the 2541.80 (Golden eye) aged 10 that started my collection hobby. I had the 210.90.42 (NTTD) Seamaster but did not ‘bond’ with it at all. Which was a shame as I’m a massive bond fan. I also had the Sub 114060. It was too much on my wrist. It felt soulless and just there. Annoying me at how shiny and glitzy it was. If I was to ever buy another Sub it would hands down be the 14060M 2-liner. I like the new 60th release with the lollipop nod to the Spectre watch, the animated case-back but not the 60 on the bezel. I get it’s the 60th, just not for me. I not long ago purchased the Green Dial Seamaster and I have to say it’s the best watch I’ve ever owned. I absolutely love it. Highly recommend getting hands on with one, it’s sublime. 🤩

The seamaster on the rice 😭 imma swap mine out

Great video. Have the NTTD, looking at a pre ceramic sub, but not sure to go that route or go new. The new sub looks so cold to me.

I have Omega 2222.80. I wouldn't trade it for all the money in the world. (almost). 36mm; CoAxial; yeah I wanted a Bond watch. I pretend the He escape valve is a remote detonator or laser. I do love the dial and hands of the Omega. The scalloped bezel adds character to the watch. I would love a Sub, but I'm not playing that game. If I won the lottery however...

i really love a 40mm no date sub, i just don’t like everything associated with Rolex. I will hopefully still get one tho

I chose the Omega. I have Rolex’s. Just not the common sub

If the Seamaster had a serviceable bezel for diving, there would be no question. The best dive watch is a Seiko, and that is not close.

Omega Seamaster 🤙

My solution has been to own both. 14060M Sub and 2551.80 Seamaster. And a Seiko completes my dive watch collection.

I would go for the Submariner. The 124060 is one of my grails. One of the reasons is that I already own a Seamaster snd I don't have a Rolex in my collection. Also I collect watches to keep them and later pass them on. I don't buy watches to sell them.

Since I could not care less about James Bond, I find difficult to justify the difference in price between this special edition Seamaster 300M and the standard. In other words, my head tells me that it is too expensive. Regarding the Submariner, it was my grail, so when I bought it, it waa my heart taking. 🤣.

More than happy with my BB58.

I went for the pelagos LHD . Neither the Rolex or the Seamaster should be worn with a formal suit they are all extremely nice tool watches although many do . I use my nomos for the odd occasion I can't wear my pelagos .

My friend, you put out some good stuff and I appreciate everything you're doing for the community. You are in it for the rights reasons and I give you mad, mad props for that. What year is your Rolex Sub, Max? And do you own the new Seamaster? Thanks again, buddy.

I’ll take the omega Seamaster professional over the Rolex every time. I’m always gonna want it on a bracelet though, I prefer the omega bracelets over the Rolex, with only the Jubilee, being the exception. I’ve owned both and IMO the omega edges out the Rolex and every category and for half the price.(i’m watching this video for a second time because I’ve decided to purchase the Seamaster professional 300 with the white dial.

Seiko Marinemaster 300 sbdx023 is the obvious title holder.

Why not both?

If you buy sub from AD you will make money for sure but if buying from grey dealer you will also lose around 2K, while if you buy the regular SMP 300 at a good discount 10% -15% you would maybe lose around 500 - 800 dollars if you decide to sell it. By the Omega prices keep increasing (next one is due July 1st)

I’d just buy the omega used. No depreciation

I have quite a lot dive watches, including fifty fathoms, green sub and others. I also have Tudor pelagos 39 and FXD. I would recommend pelagos as most desirable dive watches as pelagos is a more classic, more comfortable and purer dive watch.

I was all about shiny and bling bling... suddenly the nomos and the bb54 changed something in me, I like watches that are ''quiet'' under the radar type. I almost feel stupid getting a watch just so others can see I have a watch... When I got my call for the omega aqua tera I said I'm good, thanks. I can relate to ur friend being kinda ''pissed'' having to spend money with a not so sure feeling about it :D

The Seamaster 300. But not the SMP, the normal 60s looking one.

The seamaster 300M blue with a pinch of sedna gold is my go to watch. If you like money, make it elsewhere, watches are made for our souls to enjoy😊

MM300 is the greatest dive watch ever!!

Tbh I had the recent feeling over a Rolex. It's little to do with the watches but more the whole waitlist rubbish. I got a call after 2 years of waiting and for me if you asked which one I'd keep it's smp300 every day. I love my Rolex but the whole experience and fomo makes it a bad experience for me. It'll be the first and last rolex I'll own.

If you don´t sell the watch, you won´t take the hit. Only enjoyment.

If Rolex became readily available the price would drop so fast.

You helped your friend purchase a watch that he wasn't in love with... nuff said.

I agree with this conclusion. I'm on the waiting list for the sub, but I'm currently in deep, maddening love with my two SMP300s, especially the green one. I'm not even remotely excited about the sub, hardly think about it, and the day I get the call will be just like any other regular Tuesday. I'll likely go get it, but I already feel like it will be sold within 2 months. No hate to the rolex purists, and im sure they have their reasons, but the Omega is more of a conservative flex, and more visually stimulating

Easy! Buy the Sub, wear it, enjoy it, sell it. Then buy an Omega at discount or pre-owned. Invest the difference. Best of both worlds.

Vesper: "Rolex?" Bond: "Omega." Pretty much my choice, too, though not necessarily *that* Omega.

Omega always Omega

Bought a Seaweed a couple of months back, absolutely in love

As much as I love Omega, owning 5 and don't have any Rolex yet, I still gotta give Rolex Sub the best diver watch of all time ... but I buy watches with my heart, so my next aquisition will be an Omega Seamaster 300 older version - caliber 8400 :P

If you judged me and my sub by your criteria, you'd be mistaken. I've had mine since the asteroid hit Chicxulub and it was for diving.🙂 I wouldn't own one for fashion which is why the vast majority of people have them.

The Rolex all day, everyday over that cheesy Omega SMP. The Only Omega that count are first series Planet Oceans (2500 series) and the Speedmaster.

Buy a preowned Omega. Your head and heart both agreed.

I’ll take both please….already own the sub but I really like this 60th bond version of the 300m

Prefer my SM300....the one that "Tells the time" . Far more timeless and classy than either 😉👍🏻

I would choose neither. Have the Gen 1 Planet Ocean, works for me. Thanks for the video Max.

rolex changes very quickly these days compared to two decades ago.

I’ve been through four different Subs and none have satisfied me head wise to the degree where I felt okay keeping that much money parked in one. As for Omega their diver design language doesn’t resonate with me at all heart wise so their lower price point won’t ever attract me as a potential buyer. With AD wait times shrinking I’m going to give a new No Date Sub a try before surrendering to the urge to find an apex diver for my mix from a less prominent maker like Doxa or Blancpain. Thanks for showing clips of the epic backyard party, my sweatshirt makes me easy to spot.