The Best Ebike Motor 2022 | Brose Vs Bosch Vs Yamaha Vs Shimano

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The Best Ebike Motors 2022 | Brose Vs Bosch Vs Yamaha Vs Shimano
Riders loads of hours of testing has gone into this long term review of all top emtb motors for 2022. I hope you like and as always if you any questions please let me know.
Timestamps:
00:00 The Best Ebike Motors 2022 | Brose Vs Bosch Vs Yamaha Vs Shimano
03:10 Performance of each ebike motor
04:15 How natural do the emtb motors feel
05:02 How noisy are each ebike motors under load
06:54 Range how much vertical meters of climbing can you get from each ebike motor
09:03 appearance which ebike motor looks the best and how the best integration
10:27 Application and connectivity
11:26 how reliable are each Ebike motors
12:50 Price which is the best value for money.
13:57 conclusion
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@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 жыл бұрын

Great Review! Your content has enormous value because you have ridden these bikes-motors yourself, nothing beats personal experience. Thanks! 👍 Sound was weaker than normal but very good nevertheless (and I don't have such good hearing), watched it on my laptop.

@malikridesmtb 2 жыл бұрын

Just Amazing !!!!! A video I was really looking for a long time. The information you provided was priceless!!!! Really appreciate all your videos as they contain lots of information for someone like me whose planning to go for an E Bike as my next bike to my collection. Thanks a lot Sam.... Keep up your good work as always !

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate thanks for the kind words, any questions just ask

@m3drivr 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the summary! I have a Trance E+0 and even with the 625 whr battery, it’s so efficient that I don’t think I need a larger one. I’m getting about 2000ft of climbing with the auto mode on and still have almost 90% battery. The bike itself is just plain awesome and I’m happy that I didn’t t pay the bigger bucks for the Levo.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and yes the range on the trance is very good!

@xtreme3minutevideos887 Жыл бұрын

Great review, helps a lot in deciding my next eMB. Currently I have Shimano e8000 was looking at Bosch/Trek but will go for the Giant with Yamaha motor next for the value for money.

@SoulRollerFIN 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work. Great comparison.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

@beatrizgasco4776 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good on my phone my love. By the way, great video!!!!

@deanfenner1 2 жыл бұрын

Great work Sam, Thanks. !!

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Deano!

@rickbault1221 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@bradsanders6954 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I wonder if the EP8 gets updates thru the year? I just got a Canyon ON CF8 and the motor is awfully quiet, uphill or downhill............none of this clunking I hear about. The thing rips, loves going fast on tight trail.

@porroco 2 жыл бұрын

I came from specialized gen 2 motor 2020 levo, i had to chance twice the motor after that i change my bike for a shimano ep8.

@dominicbegley284 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve just got my crafty r. It’s definitely got a clunk down hill. Wondering if it’s the battery but as it’s fixed so not sure how involved an investigation will be to get the motor off and have a look. Edit! Just remembered I upgraded to rattling xt finned pads. Need them out so I can isolate. 👍🏻

@wgnwheels333 2 жыл бұрын

Cool comparison 😎

@JC-hh6uz 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Sam. I have a gen3 Levo Expert. Does yours make that bee sound while going uphill?

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind works mate, no my motor is pretty silent

@keehotee1357 Жыл бұрын

Dang those prices though! Pretty happy to pick up the Pole Voima delivered for under $8.5K US loaded with high end options.

@_S13_ 2 жыл бұрын

I like these kinds of comparisons! But I do wish that more reviewers would include the dyname 4.0 motor. Just got myself a Rocky mountain altitude, and love it!

@robrider838 2 жыл бұрын

I love it too, but it's tough to get hold of one to review.

@travelingmike40 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I believe it will be my first e bike. If I am going motor- the 4.0 seems to be the best.

@martinbranicky5269 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Sam. Nice video. Have you ever tried KTM bikes? I think that KTM Kapoho Prestige is very interesting bike. In top soec 9000€ with Bosch, 750Wh, XTR, Mullet

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate yes the KTMs are very nice ebikes totally

@justaguywhoplaysgamesalot 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, thanks for all the awesome and super helpful videos you make! I've got a question not really relating to motors, but I'm debating right now between the 2022 Trek rail 7, (so with the same geo as 2021) and the 2022 specialized Turbo levo comp alloy. Which of these do you think handles better? Cheers!

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Gabriel thanks for the kind words! Both the Rail and the Levo are amazing bikes, I personally feel the Levo is more versatile and more capable as stock but the rail can be pimped up like Rob has done! Hard decision out right speed the rail is faster but the Levo is more fun!

@SupperUpper 2 жыл бұрын

Double that the sound is broken. Okay on phone and iPad (but not good), same on Apple TV when sound output is on the tele, but almost completely silent when sound output is on Home Pod Mini. Maybe this helps. It also could be that the KZfaq algorithm put out the vid too early, it’s only 720p. Maybe shit heals itself by tomorrow.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words it really means a lot so much thought and energy goes into these videos so I’m stocked people like them!

@gissla 2 жыл бұрын

Seems that the talking is mono in left speaker, with only a right headphone u can't hear him talk..

@johnherbert5919 7 ай бұрын

The EMTB mode on the Bosch is a game changer for me. Just choose EMTB and the motor give you what you need, if you dont need much it dials it back. BTW I have 3 mates with Specialized bikes, gen 1 2 and 3, all have issues, dead batteries, broken power cables and lattterly dead TCU. The Gen 1 owner has 5 dead batteries in his collection. All have been left stranded.

@MarioGoatse Жыл бұрын

You should do a comparison of the best microphones, but this time don’t coat them in Vaseline! Great video though!

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

Hahaha yes I had a mic problem on this video

@tptrsn 2 жыл бұрын

Sound is fine for me.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Riders really sorry I had to take down this video yesterday because of an audio problem. Please let me know if you have questions.

@tsalesto 2 жыл бұрын

Mate, there is still sound problem.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

@@tsalesto what is the problem? It sounds fine on my laptop and computer? Can you understand what I’m staying how bad is the sound out of 10?

@tsalesto 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes I cannot hear anything you say really, just faint background music. In the beginning and the end the music is ok.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

@@tsalesto that’s so strange it’s totally fine on mine iphone and iMac

@SupperUpper 2 жыл бұрын

@@tsalesto exactly the same if I watch on tele and have the sound put out via an apple home pod mini. Only faint background music.

@wgnwheels333 2 жыл бұрын

I have put a deposit on 2022 trek rail 7 .the shop I deal with is a trek and giant dealer. I like the simpler look of the prion display did a lot of looking on the net.bikes eta mid september

@raphaellima9539 2 жыл бұрын

625 watts or 750 watts ?

@wgnwheels333 2 жыл бұрын

@@raphaellima9539 Alloy frame 625 watts

@petejansen7220 8 ай бұрын

So what did you find had the best reliability with your research

@Accu53Mation Жыл бұрын

Need to remedy your Audio. And what is the problem with no one comparing Dyname or Bafang, to The Top 4 brands? My Bafang M510 with a 700 watt battery, is a powerhouse for climbs and is lightning on city bike paths. Best is the maintenance/component costs. Very maintenance free after six-months of use(straight through a entire Winter season), and no issues. Like all KZfaq bike reviews, they only concentrate on what the top one-percent can actually afford. Us little people, don't mattter.

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

I’m right in the middle of a long term review of the bafang m510 and I just did a review of the Dyname

@michalnowakowski1140 Жыл бұрын

What about Flyon from Haibike ?

@andyarchitect Жыл бұрын

Did something break on this video? There is NO SOUND. I hope it is something that can be fixed as I'd like to hear what you have to say.

@jentfoo Жыл бұрын

Be thankful you can't hear it. The recording is really bad! It's painful to listen to

@bertissobad 2 жыл бұрын

I went through 6 motors on my 2019 Levo never getting more than 900km out of a motor. I have had my Trance for 7 months now riding 1,400km problem free so Giant and Yamaha get my vote. In my opinion Specialized is over rated and over priced. I was so happy the day I sold my Lemon Levo.

@bertissobad 2 жыл бұрын

@@2011buddylee It makes no sense does it, was it my riding style that killed the motors or was my Levo just a lemon? I am riding my Trance harder than I rode my Levo and it does not have a problem. Time will tell I guess.

@ChezzyDirt 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work Sam! Curious on the Levo Brose you've been riding is it the 2.1 or 2.2 motor?

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 2.2 motor

@gazbuck73 9 ай бұрын

Is the 2.2 anygood, looking at the Levo carbon 2023

@ChezzyDirt 9 ай бұрын

@@gazbuck73 Its better that it does not fail as much but it still does fail occasionally. Excellent feel and power.

@madrista666 Жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, there is something wrong with the audio of this movie!

@travelingmike40 2 жыл бұрын

Still no Rocky Mountain 4.0. From what I have read/watched it is the motor.

@gertievreeman9310 2 жыл бұрын

Hallo Sam, why not testing the new motors form BH BIkes???

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

I will try soon

@derb765 Жыл бұрын

Is it just me but I can’t hear you? Just got back ground music.

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

I’m going to upload again

@derb765 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes cheers mate 😊👍🏻

@derb765 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes just seen it works on the Fire Stick but voice sounds like it’s in the back ground. No voice on iPhone.

@danpintal1215 Жыл бұрын

Which motor is the most reliable?

@ajs.productions Жыл бұрын

Your audio is messed up through air pods, i thought they were broken but i watch other videos and they are fine, the audio without airpods is fine but with airpods you cant even hear your voice

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

Yes I know it’s on my list to re do this video

@jurelaure4038 2 жыл бұрын

Sam like you said, the undisputed truth of the last 4 years

@richardseller3733 2 жыл бұрын

When are you gonna get your hands on the SCOR to test out?

@haraldbernhart6243 Жыл бұрын

no voice?

@MrLeo100001 Жыл бұрын

No sound on this video

@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco 2 жыл бұрын

The price level of Giant Bikes exposes the absurd margins other companies use on their pricing. you basically get the same bike for half the price. Then again, even at that level E bikes cost a lot compared to let say a motorbike.

@lachburgers 2 жыл бұрын

Giant is the biggest bike manufacturer in the world…. That would certainly help with them being able to keep their costs down a bit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco 2 жыл бұрын

@@lachburgers OK, didn't know that.

@alxy42GuyFawkes 7 ай бұрын

You can't imagine that secondhand emtb with a medium build has the same price with a brand-new motorbike,the latter contains more components and require more complex way to be manufacture d. let's turn about it and the answer is ridiculous!😢

@andreabancora9334 2 ай бұрын

your right and left audio are out of phase I think

@darrenkupiec5436 2 жыл бұрын

Still a sound problem. Sounds like it’s coming from headphones from a distance.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

What are you watching it on? Laptop iPhone?

@darrenkupiec5436 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes ipad

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrenkupiec5436 well I have zero Idea it seems fine on mine! How strange, is it that bad I should loose the video?

@darrenkupiec5436 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes you can still hear it. Just sounds tinny.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrenkupiec5436 yea kinda sucks when you spend 20 hours a on a video abs you don’t know what you did wrong! Oh well sorry riders

@aleszverca 2 жыл бұрын

FYI On my side the sound is still broken Android phone 🤷‍♂️

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate I did everything I could to fix

@aleszverca 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes hey no problem I know u did, just an update for anyone else having the issue, I tried watching it on the TV and it was fine 🤟✌

@BH-cy9tb 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds fine on my phone not on my ipad

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Yep it’s so strange I’ll need to get it looked out

@BSE75 2 жыл бұрын

Rumors: I saw a picture SRAM is developing a ebike Motor.

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I saw that two! Let’s see, it makes sense they get into it!

@BSE75 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes swap your engine and connect with AXS. This woud be redifne the industry :=)

@fergalmckenna4258 2 жыл бұрын

The sound is bad did not hear a thing Sam

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Yep sorry please try a different device there was something wrong with the sound of some devices

@rirrid5662 2 жыл бұрын

Only sound is music...

@miscel761 2 жыл бұрын

Can't hear anything Mate

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I know try on another device

@Noakin Жыл бұрын

When your audio is this terrible you could've at least turned down the music to avoid it washing out the sound of your voice.

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

Sorry mate there was something wrong with the sound on this video

@akelo77 2 жыл бұрын

Man you have broken micro

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I’m not sure what is going on I need to check it!

@robbrown943 Жыл бұрын

Wtf? No voice, only background music?? 7 months on and it hasnt been fixed...

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

Actually it’s your device try it on your computer

@robbrown943 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes fair enough, ill try that. Why is this the only video ive ever found this? Cheers

@rickrivethead 2 жыл бұрын

Whats happened to your voice?!!?

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate I had a 🎤 problem! I might reshoot it next month

@HenleyHenderson 2 жыл бұрын

You are breaking-up captain... I'm losing you. No sound on my android bummer

@SupperUpper 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Nice! 😂

@gguggu9098 5 ай бұрын

Removing the Motor from the Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Carbon Bike kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aKt1aM6htryZd58.html

@raphaellima9539 2 жыл бұрын

Bad sounds Matte !!!

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate I know try on another device something is wrong 😑 and I’m not sure what

@ohtoriginalhimbeertoni 2 жыл бұрын

Und ist der Berg auch noch so steil, in`s schwitzen komm ich nicht. Mein Motor macht die Arbeit un ich tritt lässig mit....😎 @

@Utahmikew 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you’re speaking into a can.

@klauspeters7434 2 жыл бұрын

All rubbish - the best motor is the TQ (Haibike) … 😁

@SamsBikes 2 жыл бұрын

Really? I have tested it and range is terrible 😣

@klauspeters7434 2 жыл бұрын

@@SamsBikes you are absolutely right, range is really crap - but I love the torque ❤️😁

@hubmonster5559 Жыл бұрын

It's absurd that a so-called expert doesn't understand battery capacity vs power. Battery capacity is measured in watt-hours, not watts which is a measure of power and seldom quoted for batteries except when talking about raw cells. Watt-hours is what you should talk about for ebike batteries just like electric car batteries are quoted in kilowatt-hours.

@SamsBikes Жыл бұрын

Haters going to hate I try my best and a lot of people really like my work I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy this Free content