Hahaha absurd numbers

Great video Kim/Faiz!! I'm on the fence, but this really helped

@@shake741 thank you!!

226 miles for a sub $100K EV? 80% charging with less than 200miles capacity plus the utilization of those unreliable CCS…. I Dont know, doesnt seem worth it for a massage chair comfort.

​@@hanselsanjuan8003 I agree... Tesla is just better.

I already ordered my Q8 Sportback. Can't wait 😂

lol, resell value on these have been crazy actually.

And the Tesla qualifies for the 7,500 credit. Which basically flips the price

YES!

In my opinion reliability is the most important in all vehicles. Almost all new EV’s sold in the US have a range in excess of 200 miles. So they meet everyone’s needs almost all the time. The vast majority of charging is done at home, so having a proprietary network is not necessary. My wife and I own a model 3 and a Mach E. The Mach E is now our preferred vehicle.

@@irfanhusein1445 agree! except only on few occasions ie. if we have a power outage...or sometimes do that few road trips...but in general range is so hype up...most people don't drive 2hr commutes to work like me

@@phat_gunpla_etc actually my wife has a 110 mile commute. And in Southern California this would take 3 hours, however EV’s can use the HOV lane so saves about an hour

@@irfanhusein1445 i carpool too also which takes me 1hr each way to work and home...i love my EV and will never go back to ICE cars..jus wished my coworkers and gas owners just don't have the hate comments i hear all the time

But it’s still a $90k car with no rebate. The tesla offers a $7500. I payed $58k for the performance(-$7500 rebate) I’m looking at around $50K? No brainer for me.

Yes, heat pump is standard. As is air suspension.

@@voksic13 gotta give them credit for using air suspension

Exactly! Tesla are known to over-promise on range and Audi are known to under-promise. Audi drivers get more than what's advertised and Tesla drivers get way less than what's advertised.

I'm an e-tron owner and thank you, I agree with your comments. The Tesla Bjorn data shows that the E-tron is still one of the fastest charging larger e-SUVs on the market and - despite being 4 years old now - is very competitive for charging and road tripping. For long drives, MX, iX and E-tron are all within a few minutes of each other: the e-tron's lower range is compensated by its extremely flat and consistent charging curve. TBH, I personally think the iX has currently set the new bar: it's very efficient and has longer real world range than either the MX or the e-tron, and the driving dynamics are the best of the bunch. I also think the iX looks amazing from almost all angles - I will say that the front may take some convincing, but from all other angles it looks awesome. We will see what the new Q8 e-tron brings to the market. My guess is that it still won't touch the iX in terms of overall range, but it's going to be a substantial improvement for a car that's already really popular and one of the best on the market. People forget that Audi has sold something like 160,000 e-trons world wide over the past few years (Tesla has sold less than 60-70K MX in the same time period). The car is wildly succesful and shows that EVs don't need to be all about range. Some people just want a really nice car to drive and the e-tron was the only option until earlier this year. The Q8 e-tron's charging curve is supposed to be even better than the current e-tron and its handling sharpened as well, though early reports still say it's not up to iX levels of handling. Regardless, I'll put my name on the list once they start taking orders. I've had my e-tron for 3 years and can't imaging going to a different vehicle any time soon. A new e-tron that is the same, but more efficient, with longer range and 10-15% faster charginer sounds sick: sign me up!

Good to hear. Dieselgate showed the world where Audi's priorities really were.

Spot on comment! Had this very same Etron S Sportback for one year and didn’t feel any innovation, it was like driving a standard car… Each time I drive my actual Model 3 Long Range, I feel I’m driving a car from the future

Agreed

This is also the first German electric car. From 2018. It was ment to be an ICE. Audi/Porsche's PPE platform will be first proper luxury EV platform. Q4, which is often shown in this video for some reason, is based on very successful, but not briliant, MEB platform. Germans were never great in innovation, but they were always briliant in execution. I don't mind driving 5 years old technology without worrying about basic things.

yet the Porsche Taycan is awesome and has all the features a Porsche driver would want

@WIZE think about that for a moment. An EV that drives like a standard ICE actually takes some engineering. For the same reason I loved my P85+ Model S, I would never let my teenage son or my elderly parents drive it. I wouldn't give it a second thought on the etron S.

Most people never road trip, or rent a car when they do (even gas car owners rent to prevent wear on their own cars). I've driven over 130K miles on EVs since 2019 and none were Tesla. With my experience the extra cost of a Tesla doesn't make sense (I currently have a Kia Niro EV). In the case of the Audi, some people just want a nicer car. I've driven the Model Y Performance and it's an amazing car, but the interior doesn't do anything for me. Tesla is ahead if you road trip regularly or can't charge at home, but for 90% of people who can afford an EV you're battery is full when you wake up and you don't really need even 200 miles of range. I even had a 2019 Nissan Leaf 40 kWh in Minnesota with range loss from cold weather, so I speak from experience.

Their charging network is definitely a competitive advantage. I started to get the Audi but went with the Tesla due to road trip charging options

Audi better u Tesla motherfuckers

Tesla’s infotainment is way ahead. They also make a huge profit on EVs. Something no other manufacturer or Audi can touch right now. The biggest thing for me is the range. Tesla is smoking others on range. That needs to change. Audi may move ahead where Tesla was 2 years ago but we will have to see if Tesla maintains the gap or not.

370 wltp should be roughly 300 miles epa, which is still a big range bump for the e tron

Downhill maybe

WLTP is 600km for Sportback with 19" wheels and special mirrors. US will not see that car since those mirrors are illegal in US.

Not for the Plaid.

I would say that the charging network is the most important thing

@@serlegar I agree. If you have a good CCS charging network (as we have here in most of Europe) even the original e-tron 55 achieves the same long-range speed as a Model X as it charges very fast (you can check this in Tesla Björns 1000km test results).

But the Q8 (ie etron if you go and order it now) has 600km WLTP range. 370 miles.

He also assumes Tesla will stand still on their future range for the Y. I can see Elon smirking already.

370 miles wltp. 290 epa. Def not beating Tesla.

Dog mode?

a lot of cars and SUVs in the price range and even less money have air suspension and been around some years now, not that big a deal. a pump or bag goes bad occasionally. Sure it's more than simple basic independent suspensions, but that basic crap is what you have in cars that ride harsher and louder (and that basic suspension what the Y has which nearly every reviewer on YT complains about being a harsh ride in the Y vs cars with air suspension). Fact is any car in this price range should have air suspension for the money.

NACS would be a large improvement on any vehicle.

What’s ironic about tesla now getting the $7,500 tax credit? The fact that they had it and lost it and now have it again? Kind of wish they still had the $7,500 credit on the higher end models.

yep, it exceeds the price threshold and is not made in America

Ikr finally a correct comment