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Personally, I loved the film! I also cried a lot lmao

Although the homage to Chadwick at the beginning and end of the film was beautiful, the plot itself was very weak. Very little character development for characters new and old like Riri and Namour was a poor iteration of the classic character. The motivations of certain characters were very questionable. Plus, for a 2 hr 41 min movie, we didn't get to see the new Black Panther until the very end. I respect the fact that people enjoyed the movie, but to be honest, it wasn't for me.

It's fine movie, soild acting, 7/10 Black Panther Wakanda Forever.

I thought was one of the worst Marvel films I have ever seen.

right? the theatre was dead quiet on that scene and when someone was reminiscing the death

@Oddwolf 799 lol I would rather watch again Black Adam than this sleep fest

@@Loneliw0lf Yes because it was a sad moment but aside from that the movie was mediocre at best

@@incoma6628 It was better than "The Batman"

@@ShadowSonic2 Hey, hey, no fighting.

100% this!! It's a lovely tie to connect her story to T'Challa's - it's a lot of power to take on in such a short time like he had to do and after immediately losing someone.

That is... quite the run-on sentence

@Oddwolf 799 Black Adam entertained me more and had better pacing.

This was so fantastically put. I didn’t really see Shuri’s connection to her brother AND Killmonger until this video and the comments within

Yep, agree. But there are still people screaming that "go woke, go broke" nonsense. What the fuck are they talking about, hahaha

@@Danishmastery they see a black woman and lose their minds 😂

@@Danishmastery after being a superhero fan for years I've learned that those people will never be satisfied. A character could be the most compelling out there and they'd still cry about it. Just gotta let them whine and push others away from them.

Black Adam was surprisingly more woke.

This is exactly how to write a female protagonist. It feels like an origin story for Shuri, and one that actually builds an integral character that we can feel for. Movies that focused too much on writing a female protagonist and did not develop them enough are Captain Marvel and the Star Wars Sequels, but this movie far surpasses those and is probably my favorite MCU movie since Endgame.

That's why it was good and not a lightweight film.

Whats that nois- Oh no. 🫣

He should make a solo Namor movie

Yea the music with the voices were mesmerizing

It was so good right !

Excellent ending to the phase! Best we could've asked for!

Is this a joke?

@@Deathstro It has to be, cause I'm a solid reason as to why it's false.

@@ChridsBop My guy there's a reason I said "most fans" cuz even tho I've seen a lot of negative reactions the majority has been positive so far.. I'm not dismissing ur opinion btw.

@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe I getcha, and I don't dismiss yours either. Reason being is because it's always interesting to see other peoples opinions, for the most part I've only seen the bad, whereas you've seen the good. Very interesting indeed. 👀

@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe “the majority has been positive” L O L, of course people no standards for the films they waste their money on are going to react positively, because most people are fuckin stoopid and will cream themselves for anything with the Marvel logo in the beginning of it

For real! She was like the Riri of the first one and really stepped up here to be the next BP. Looking forward to the future with the character!

@@GeeklyGoodsI’m glad she grows up to be the Black Panther

I think she did give into her anger tho almost killing namor but I think that’s what made her a bet her a better character. She’s not perfect and I’m glad they portrayed that. Characters that are flawed are always the best.

Very very well done. FILM INDEED!!

It was low key amazing and slept on by those who don't see it.

That's good to hear as someone who wasn't a fan of the first movie but was cautiously optimistic about the second.

Exactly it felt like an actual film with purpose on its own rather than something that was just leading into something else or looking forward to some bigger project. This is one of the few marvel films that can be viewed and enjoyed without the support of the universe itself. It tells a great story of grief and recovery which is universal.

Bp1 is good your just racist

@@CasualCat64How is it racist to dislike a movie? I like the character I just think the first movie was boring, villain was bad, and overall it was just forgettable. The most memorable black panther moments are from civil war and avengers.

@@plustico2846 one of the best final battles Killmonger was a dope villain and Micheal B Jordan was hot and it wasn’t forgettable

I guess you like to see your race destroyed.

Wakanda Forever was an exploitation of Boseman's death. Boseman and T'Challah died in the same way. They both died from a mysterious disease and kept it secret from people. The entire movie milked Boseman/T'Challah's death from start to finish, to end credits.

@@sunnysied713100% disagree. Not only the story is well told but having T'chlla dying from disease is nice way to put the characters in the same spot as cast, dealing with the lost of their main hero, with the film whole message being about moving on. which is theme present in Black Panther until now. The story isn't just about Tchalla death but also the effect it has on the character and how Shuri deal with trauma, specially after suffering another loss in the film.

@@alexandrefrauches132 Just because you disagree, that doesn't mean you're right. It's very tasteless to kill a character in the same fashion as the actor. Boseman wouldn't be happy that T'Challah died in the same way as he did. That's very creepy and disrespectful. Also, Boseman would've prefer the T'Challah to continue (recast) or, at a minimum, that T'Challah die a heroic death while fighting for his people and Wakanda. He didn't have a noble death, especially not one befitting of a King, a Protector, or a Superhero Icon. Next, by exploiting the death of Chadwick Boseman, the writers unethically amplified the emotional response of the audience. It was emotional manipulation that depended heavily on outside knowledge of real-life events involving the actor. If the audience never knew that Boseman had died, then they would be absolutely surprised, confused and annoyed with the writing. After Endgame, T'Challah had just returned from the blip, from the dead. He was a triumphant, returning King. Fireworks. Applause. Then he drops dead off-screen, from natural disease, in his sequel movie. Now, he's in a casket. There was no writing set-up to earn an emotional response from the audience (other than he's coding and we can't help him). The audience NEEDED to read the obituary of Boseman. That's a underhanded and dirty writing trick. I never thought Marvel Studios would play so dirty. Profit trumps ethics.

@@sunnysied713 Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean it's right either. I thought was bold move having T'challa dying from disease. Not only prevents them from recasting or using CGI (both ways would feel even more disrespectful) but also gives areality shock to this universe of super heroes: tragedy is unexpect and hits you when you less expect, even super heroes. Not every one has heroic death in battlefield. Sometimes is something out of their control. The characters journey in the film mirrors the state of the cast as well the fans, all having to deal with Boseman death and how the franchise will work without him. They won't recast him but can't ignore T'challa. The conclusion, with the Shuri coming to terms with T'challa death and that while couldn't save T'challa, she can save his legacy, with the memories of her brother inspiring Shuri in the end, is the film giving powerful message to audience, that Boseman may be gone, his legacy shall live on by the actors he inspired as well in memories of his friends, family and his fans. To quote Black Panther "“In my culture, death is not the end. It’s more of a stepping off point."

@@sunnysied713 Oh but When Nolan exploited Heath Ledger dying it was good?

Awe thank you

Agreed! For a moment I got that “no one is safe” feeling like I did watching the walking dead. Lowkey thought she would kick the bucket

Yeah lets hope Phase 5 picks up on some of the great qualities of this and suhers in an even better phase next!

Agreed

Try not to let your image of a perfect film muddy up your lens when watching a film. I think you’re really hindering yourself from enjoying the movie

I agree with you. It felt lacking to me.

Not agreed

THey really did! Namor was so well done, giving him a lot of relatability was the correct choice. Cannot wait to see what they do with the character next!

Too many problems, far from a masterwork. Coogler kinda choked. Wakanda Forever was nowhere near as good as Black Panther.

@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"

@@ShadowSonic2 No. Namor stupidly gives a sample of the vibranium flower to Shuri, a super-scientist, and Wakanda is on the verge of war with Talocan. Shuri is a genius who can easily use the plant to make a poison against the Talocan, strengthen her Wakandan people or revive the heart shaped herb.

@@ShadowSonic2 GTFOH. The Batman shits all over this.

It was soooo well done! Coogler really knows how to world and character build. He'd be great for Secret Wars tbh

You and me both! Wonderful experience, with such a mix of emotions - sadness, comedy, fun, hope, so much. Can't wait for the continuation of this story!

The writing had too many problems. It's not even close to top 5. It's probably middle of the pack, maybe a little bit below.

@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"

​@@ShadowSonic2listen I don't no about that but it is a top 5 mcu film

Don't understand this guy's hype, it's like someone paid him for this review. The best of phase 4? Rather the most boring

100%! Needded that nice button at the end here it was so damn good. Can't wait for Phase 5!

Mannnn that Earth's Mightiest heroes is GOOD!!

Agreed

No way home?

@@TheFightingMan101 what about no way home? It’s good this is better

@@TheFightingMan101 I'd say it is definitely better than NWH, Spidey is my favourite hero and I loved the nostalgia of NHW. But it doesn't hold up well on repeat viewings. I'd say Shang Chi would be a much bigger rival for best film since Endgame

@@LikeGod_ButBetterLooking damn, I chose to watch black Adam over this because I thought the film would be garbage, maybe that was a poor choice.

You were right, it's a banger indeed!! RIP to the king

can't believe Tik Tokers were gatekeeping the movie for the first week

@@zaiffx what u mean?

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Are you referring to Martin Freeman’s part? I think it was just setting up for Thunder Bolts mostly

@@hazeplazs3599 No no, not that part. I mostly meant just the kinda retreading of the same “war against everyone else” kinda thing. It was more overt with Killmonger’s motivations and stuff, Namor did it a lot smoother and I feel he was the better villain, but the overall war like that just felt weird to me? Then again, I’m not the movie’s ideal audience (white teenager XD)

@@wyattrose5511 I’m white and 21 lol I think we fall into the ideal audience😂 BP was my hero too regardless if he was black. Don’t be insecure about being white. Our ancestors have done terrible things and someone another has lived as long as Namor would have seen all of it. We just gotta accept it

@@hazeplazs3599 True, yeah.

He stepped up a lot from the first Black Panther.

But I still think Namor is well acted

STUNNED! I remember before trailers I was so nervous. Ryan Coogler put all that to rest!

Thank you!

Okay

I don't think Boseman would be happy that they killed T'Challah in the same exact way as he died in real-life. Boseman and T'Challah both died from a mysterious disease and they kept it secret. Boseman would've definitely wanted T'Challah to either live on (re-cast) or to die as a triumphant or tragic hero. Nah, T'Challah died from natural disease in the first five minutes of the movie. Lame.

@@sunnysied713 Oh but when Nolan exploited Ledger it was good?

@@ShadowSonic2 Ledgers death wasn't exploited in the Dark Knight trailers or storytelling. But, go ahead, explain your schlocky case. More details please. Did Joker die in the same way as Hedger? Was their a Joker Jr? Was the Dark Knight one long funeral service for Ledger/Joker? No.😌

@@sunnysied713 Ledger's death very much was exploited. Everyone kept saying "Go watch this to honor Ledger". This movie honored Chadwick the right way.

I was worried they were going to have Attuma overthrow Namor and become the final villain and Namor would have to work with Shuri to defeat him. So glad they didn't do that.

​@@ShadowSonic2 Yeah, when his name was first mentioned, my first reaction was "uh oh," but fortunately they're more than likely saving that for a later story.

There were too many writing problems, and the editing was terrible. Black Panther was much better.

@@sunnysied713 I like this much more than the 1st Black Panther but that's just my opinion.

@@TimDaco I'm glad that you like it more, but Wakanda Forever reused a lot of story beats from Black Panther and other movies. T'Challah vowed revenge that he would kill Zemo for murdering his father, but he let him go. Shuri vowed revenge for the murder of her mother, but she let Namor go. Killmonger gets stabbed and begins to die because, hey, it's a serious injury. Shuri gets impaled by a thick spear (all the way through the body) and she's like "Tis but a scratch. Spiderman flippidy flipty time."

@@sunnysied713 It was better than "The Batman"

@@ShadowSonic2 I agree. I love The Batman but I just feel like it's overrated. I like Wakanda Forever way better but that's just my opinion.

Iron Man 1 exists you know

@@literallyvergil1686 Iron Man 1 is just ok.

Well, he did a wonderful job with "JoJo Rabbit" so...

Thank you!