It was like a whole new gun. For me it’s amazing.

@@rdrgear i’ve only got about 700ish rounds through the silicone carbide grip with a compact size slide. Think I’m going to buy another with the laser stippling for my full size and get rid of all my other modules. I also forgot to mention I bought it with the offset extended mag release and it is in the perfect position for my hand

I have the Icarus Precision Socom Full and its pretty awesome.

Appreciate the kind words and the watch. 🤙

You and me both

I think it all depends on what you want it spend. The last time I saw the mil overruns they were Triple the civilian price, has that changed? If not I would say the standard pistol. Once you have one, you can always buy parts and build another

I mean the staccatto is marketed as a duty weapon and isn’t far off the weight. Sig making these heavy frames, smith and Wesson making a metal framed gun, the 2011 craze it’s the way the industry is headed I feel.

@@user-cz3dn9nl6j Yup, but it started as a competition gun under STI, and is now trending back in that direction. A lot of elements were streamlined to reduce snagging, but a heavy gun is not always a comp gun, that's simply the trend. Weight just benefits a comp gun more than a duty one. Plus, some folks don't like the feel of polymer. They prefer aluminum or steel, which is naturally more heavy.

@@CalzaTheFoxI removed the grip weight and put an aluminum mag well on mine over the steel. It’s much more balanced now.

It’s one we are working on.

If you like this watch the full review on the Parker mountain Tardigrade. IMO it’s the best comp’d p32O out.

@@rdrgear I can only imagine!

Have you tried it concealed carry. If so how does the carbide feel against the skin does it rub a lot or create any Hotspot? I'm really curious about getting this with carbide but if it's not viable for ccw I may have to go without it

Im curious what drives your thoughts on this statement?

I agree the look awesome. I personally don’t put too much into carry guns. I’m a bit old fashioned in the sense. They have one job. And they don’t have to look pretty doing it. I do love the styling on the full-size frames.

I feel the WC frames are too narrow and too slippery. I don’t think you will regret trying the M1811 frame

@@rdrgear thank you for turning me onto this grip mod. I finally got one about a month ago and now it is my favorite polymer group frame. I think it’s tied with the Icarus agency for my favorite of any kind.

This is a full factory top end from Parker mountain machine called the Tardigrade.

I am a big fan for both owb and IWB. I enjoy it more than the WC.

@@rdrgear how is the silicone carbide on your skin? Worried for my dad belly. Ha ha

To my knowledge there are no laws on the grip module. It’s a non serialized part. You just order one and swap your FCU and use your existing magazines.

Grip angle. The review is about a true 1911 grip angle. The AXG is a great option, at double the cost. 🤙

I’m not a fan.

I think you will he very happy. Send me a follow up message after get some time on it

It is. Grip and and thickness is narrower and straighter than the Wilson module which I used to use

The frame would be a great pairing.

Full dust cover only fits 1 slide length. That’s why these are not made in the full 5”’frame. If you just like the look, the the factory grip is a solid option.

Price is subjective. Some can afford it, and. some cannot.

@@rdrgear there is a difference between affordability and just plain over paying for something. But they can charge whatever they want for their products. Free market will reveal if it was priced correctly. Im just saying in my opinion It’s overpriced and cost prohibitive for someone who’s considering giving it a try. It’s not crazy overpriced, $50-$75 too high for the package I gave as an example.

@@jpk9171jpk ok. What should it be priced at since we ar having this conversation.

Safety notches are indicated on the inside of the frame. Took me less than a min to dremel both sides.

I am working on it. I get a lot of requests for this one. Hopefully coming soon.

Laser engraving? On the frame? I think thats their new laser stippling i do not have that unit.

No need. Sig does not haw one either. If they did you would be stuck with the full size slide all the time.

The trigger Gaurd is a bit different. But it's close.

Compact 3.9 slide yes. BUT NOT the sub compact 3.6 slide

I think you mean the AXG. They are 100% different grip angles. But a comparison video is coming.

I have 9 P320s

Appreciate the watch.

No. Yoh need to use a 3.6" slide to get it flush

Agree 100%

@@faithwindsheimer3038 narrower since the mags are narrower. It’s similar but not exact.

Its a tardigrade by PMM

Yup.

@@rdrgear thanks for the reply

The 3.9 slide. p320 compact. NOT the sub compact. That slide is 3.6”

The grip module works with the standard 3.9” slide. It does not work with the 3.6” slide. It’s easier to talk In slide lengths, since sig has so many dam names for the same length pistol.

Agreed! Appreciate the speedy response, you may or may not know but I was wondering if this would work with the 3.6” slide if I got the 4.3” threaded barrel and combined that with the Herrington arms HC320FL comp that sits flush to put the overall length of the standard x compact slide to that 4.3” length or if the way the grip module is cut just won’t work with what I have in mind. Thanks in advance!

What parts? I’m not sure I’m the best guy for that but I can see what I can do

@@rdrgear I even watched the HK VP9 tactical OR video you did, i'm a fan. I'm talking about the grip, friction, leverage, recoil management. I would really appreciate it. thank you again, for responding.

@@samuelboyer7842 I will see what I can do.

At about 1:39 he says he feels the WC grips are too thin and feel weird in the hand for some

I have both, and the WC was my go to until I got my 1811 grip mod. I have to say that it’s far more comfortable. It has the near perfect grip angle and width for exceptional comfort and ergonomics. This is staying on my M18.

@@CountryTortoise In the comments here he replied to someone asking about grip width compared to other common modules including the WC, and he stated the Brouwer was the slimmest of them all. Seems to be an inconsistency there. Also he states the WC grip is just a more ergonomic version of the stock Sig grips, but I could have sworn the WC grips come with the 1911 grip angle, the higher, longer beavertail, and the higher trigger relief same as the Brouwer. WC's business was built on 1911s so it shouldn't be a huge surprise that they modeled their Sig grip on 'em.

It fits the 3.9 compact slide. I have one

I got a video coming on this very topic should help alot

Silicon carbide grip is great. It is a definite improvement and they didn’t go crazy with it. The texture is great, but not so overdone to that it literally rubs the skin like grip tape.

Not yet, I’m sure it’s on the horizon. If you are running a comp. Grip is your weight.

I would suggest upgrading the Reddot first. Maybe the frame

Me too! Bullets, A shit ton. :) Then another shit ton. THEN decide what to add.

If you carry it, don't change anything. Keep it stock. I pull my glock and sig out. Sig cleared roughly 60 rounds, no malfunction. I kept sig stock.The g43 is not. I changed the side release years ago, and it failed to eject case after 3 rounds twice. It may have been the two year old ammo, though.😅 I also cleared 10 rounds out of my Ar no hick ups

Also not at the same night I pulled them out. This happen the first time in December last year.

If you are asking about safariland yes

Duty style holsters yes. Concealed carry holsters, it’s been 50/50 for me.

What Kind of holster are you looking for

The Wilson is just more ergonomic p320. It does not change the grip angle. The m1811 frame helps with pistol presentation, which allows for the shooter to acquire the dot much faster. The mag well is awesome ad well. I have multiple WC frames as well.

@@theKashConnoisseur you can keep going. They did send some and i bought some. They were slippery not as comfortable stamping the wilson logo on them did not impress me. Your vagina is leaking because i praised a companies product after i bought one to try. Reach out to them And shared by thoughts. They offered to let me try a new model the silicone carbide. It’s not tape, and this tells me what little you know about firearms. Tolls like you spend more time talking shit. Instead of just working at getting better in all aspects of life. Instead you grow a pair of balls because you are on key board. You would not run that cock holster like you are right now. If this was a face to face conversation. Now you are done. You can go back to being q basic nobody.

@@rdrgear thanks for the permission to keep going, but it wasn't required. I don't care if you don't like the Wilson grips, what I care about is you lying and claiming that they aren't 1911 grip angles because it fits your shill. And stop lying man, you already said in the video that they sent you the two grips for free and thanked them as supporters of your channel. It's so obvious you're a paid opinion, just cut the crap already. It's fine to get free stuff, but this bias is insane, and the misinformation you support your biases with is out of line. Since I'm a real man, I'd be happy to say all of this to your face and more. But I guarantee you'd never call me the names your calling now outside of a comments section. Not only are you a small man, you're a weak one. Go back to thinking armed security makes you a gun expert though, since it makes you feel big. You'd think a gun expert would know what a heavy frame helps with for performance, but you obviously don't know. Oh, and a slippery gun? Sounds like you need to work on your grip, and get better/more training.

Well said.

I talk about them in the video

Yeah I figured that out after I watched it again! Haha Do you have any good alternatives for someone with less of a budget for a slide and barrel?

@@EmberIsABrat you can get barrel and comp combos from Parker mountain for your existing 320

Since having both. I like the M1811. The 1911 grip angle just works better for me. And I like the more aggressive texture

Probably would pick a WIlson and take the money I saved and put it towards more training and ammo.

It’s not the grip angle since it’s a double stack mag. The grip angle And the style is 100% 1911

Parker Mountain Machine

Appreciate you. I will be sure to pass this on to brouwer team. Jeff

@@rdrgearMetal versions both Aluminum and Steel would be cool AF too!

How long did you wait I just bought one on backorder just curious thanks man

@@molinamj2007 I got mine early on the release. They have been growing fast. I got mine in a few days

@@rdrgear I see okay I guess I’ll just have to wait and find out

Yes sir!

Honestly i do not know. I would think not. Since its based on the 9mm

Would love to be able to do the same set up to my X 10

it will, but it'll look real dumb unless you have a threaded barrel and a massive compensator

The X carry is a 3.9 inch slide, they make an 1811 for that size. So it will be perfect as is..

PMM Tardigrade

@@etam083 very nice, thanks. I don't see any XTEN options though. Unless I'm missing something. Hopefully it's on the to do list because that would be really great to have

Comes form Brouwers llc they sell it on their site with the frames

On our website 6390rds for the p320. You must put tardigrade in the notes if you have this same pistol as shown. Rdrgear.com

On our website. We offer modified Safariland holsters for a variety of guns Safariland does not support.