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As a proud African; I can’t it reconcile Christianity. But hey, it could be just me. I refuse to propagate the faith of the oppressors

You guys have got to invite the brother GoBlack2Africa for part 2, we need conversations like this!

The problem is not black ppl who believe in the bible. There is plenty of evidence that shows biblical events did and are still occurring. The real problem is black ppl believe in religions more than the bible. And all these religions are purposed to lead you away from the truth. The trick is, all these religions in some form, use the bible to validate themselves. However none of them actually follow the bible completely (modern Christianity included). The greatest lies are always a distortion of the truth. Because an effective lie needs to give you a good reason to believe it.

DJ Maintain, my son. It is brave to stand up for common sense. I grew up in Trinidad 1964 to 1984 (went to UK). The bible did not sit with me 'naturally' from about age 6. My home (mother mainly) was very progressive. She 'let me' go to with the neighbours around that age. I suspect now they noticed my family didn't go and asked to take me. After going about twice, I said I didn't want to go, she said "okay" and didn't force it. Other than that, my mother was very strict (a Catholic school teacher her entire work life). Mind you about a year later I gave up on Santa Claus went I found the bike my parents had hidden away for me for Xmas. And I love Jesus (and Muhammad) as men for different reasons. I think Jesus lived like a Rastaman and I respect that. I don't see enough of "what would jesus do ? in the Christian religion particularly (where is the tolerance? where is trashing the temple when it used as a base for exploitation?. Basically and in my humble opinion, something (I don't know exactly what) about the bible seems to enable the worst of oppressors to, simultaneously contradict and 'use' it as a moral code to oppress people. I CANNOT FOLLOW THE MORAL CODE OF MY OPPRESSOR. I am not stupid.

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Seth Adams said, "The Bible made me talk like an idiot." So much truth in that statement.

South Africans have a quote “ Before we had the land and the whites had the Bible , Now we have the Bible and the whites have the land “

Thanks guys, it was enlighting, Come again in part 2, please

My opinion this is one of the best episodes. This is a very important issue in East Africa that needs to be talked about.

This Aunty was on fire. Please bring her on a regular basis. She is spitting hot fire

That was a good question oshay, I have been around white Christian’s for a long time now, and I can tell you they don’t interpret the Bible the same way Africans do

It's very interesting to me that after all this time black people collectively have not returned to the spiritual practices of our ancestors that were around thousands of years before organized religion. Organized religion is a tool to control our minds and our behavior. Start reading about the various different creation stories and deities from different countries in Africa. We can never liberate ourselves from those that oppress us if we are not willing to reject religion that was imposed on us to begin with.

Part 2 is very much needed

Paul wasn't Jewish he was an Israelite from the tribe of Benjamin

I'm shocked that he's blown away when told that the Caribbean literally had to pay out reparations to their enslaver. I assume that he doesn't know that had happen as well beer in the US after the civil war the enslavers what paid out reparations. As well as Haiti paid out millions to France which crippled the economy till this very day.🌄🦍

Outstanding Conversation Great Video.

We got ourselves a grown up conversation going on hear!!! Well done oshay duke X.

Have you ever seen a kid tell another child an altered version of something an adult said? Then the adult reveals they never said it like that? That's my take on what Europeans have done to the bible. The Ethiopian bible is 800 years older than the KJV of the bible.

I feel like i can share something with these. Smart guys big up ba dear

Great discussion!

A much needed conversation

Excellent video!

Prosperity comes about through hard work not through religion.

We turn back to Yahawah Yahawashi for the sins of our ancestors and now ourselves in certain idols, etcccc.. Yessssssss!!!We our Great people that must believe in the Most High and our brothers and Sisters!!! Look up and live!!!

I originally came to this section to speak on what you said about the religion issue and how Blacks use it; but, you already said it. You surprised me Oshay! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 My sentiments exactly!👍🏾 *Oh, and Maintain (DJ), you're gettn there, broz. It's exactly as you said it, it's the people not the words! Remember that. 🙌🏾

Very interesting topic.

This was a good discussion. I'd love to hear an expert on traditional African religions and the history of Christianity in Uganda and Kenya respond to some of the questions posed in the discussion. What does Christianity offer that the local traditional spiritual system does not?

Why would one still call themselves “Christian “ even after they discover that the book that defines Christianity is badly corrupted by their oppressor?

Do black people not realize every since Christianity and Muslim religion entered our lives it's been hell for us.

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English?!! Nga we lost ourselves?!! Nze tombulira, it's so sad nga we can't write a full sentence in our mothers tongues

It’s oppressive and have put a blanket upon us and have stagnated our ability to develop our dreams and our gifts.

Oshay took us to church. Preach, brother.

Part 2 please.

The brother on the end looks like John David Washington, the actor.

This happened to my and cousins just wanted to visit our friend to be active and we were told to leave like come on our friend can’t invite us over to be active? Smh

Great discussion

Part 2. Continue the conversation.

Part 2 please..tks

Great topic. If the religion does not empower what is the use of it, part 2.

Big facts

Africans should know better since the Europeans introduced it to them and now the Africans have the Bible and the Europeans have the land , they know that’s the white mans religion, or should know or do they know

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Part 2 please

But it makes me STRONG!!!!

cholly’s absolutely most potent tool against the 9th Ether Originals! STOP PRAYIN’ T’ brad!

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Man, Oshay. Your words at the end about seeing Jesus as yourself in terms of racial/cultural progression was powerful.

Dr. Juliet, you're a Yahshua Follower like me, not a "Christian"... I'll like you to continue what you're doing as part of our YF Community. You're blessed. Please, contact me through the website as well. Jesus ( Yahshua ) is Lord And Savior.

To have a fair part 2, invite back Dr. Juliet with A) Dr. Ray Hagins B) Mutabaruka C) Sara Lena

Not the Bible, but secular philosophy being combined with Western “Christianity” is what weakens not just the so called “Black” Christian, but a majority of American Christians also.

Facts. No lies detected.

As long as ANYONE subscribes to THEIR RELIGION THAT BOOK still in slavery

Part 2!

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I love history, and I really lo e ancient history. When it comes to ancient Africa, it's hard to get info. Especially parts where Islam is king. I really want to learn about original African worship/religions and cultures. Like Ethiopia and somilia. There's so many unbelievable ancient unexplained things there. That have no explanation, and the people there can't even explain them smh. There's unexplained super old art, advanced buildings/structures, evidence of odd rituals, and huge pictures drawn in the desert areas you can only see from waaay up in the sky. Pretty much anything you look up is all about when Christianity or Islam was introduced smh. I don't want to see that crap. In somalia, I don't care about no Arab crap. I want to learn about punt. I want to hear about ancient somali culture and language. Ethiopia, screw Jesus! Tell me about the queen of Shiba. Ethiopian culture pre Christianity/islam. Ethiopians and Egyptians were known in the ancient world as master builders. I want to learn about those pre historic, amazing structures all over Ethiopia just sitting there. There's unexplained ancient stuff in Uganda as well. The people there don't even know anything about it. Outside of some vague folklore. After being colonized or taking on new religions. They seem to have cast it all aside and forgot about it smh.

Why didn’t Joanita say anything!? We wanna hear from you queen lol tell us your experience in the next episode!

These are some of the reasons that reparations of African Americans and African Caribbean’s.

You can't give truth to someone who believes dead people come back.

As an African American/ African born in America i left Christianity for our indigenous faith or the faith my lineage practice before being indoctrinated. As for me it was more of a deeper connection than just how corrupt and horrid Christianity turnt into over the centuries. Our ppl had a faith, traditions that are beautiful that the new religion took and made us hate everything about us. So so much more but I'll keep it short. Good job by the way. Like you all topics

Bible isn’t the problem as much as the doctrine/teaching of organized religion is. It so happens Christianity/ Catholicism/ Protestant use the Book.

It always baffles me when I see people who have no idea that the Bible is the saving grace of the Blackman. The Bible condems the WM , exposes what he has done and will redeem the BM!! If you need the scriptures just ask for them I got you.

They flipped the book on us and gave us there version of the Bible

Facts

They were already weak. If they weren't then slavery and colonialism would have never happened.

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I was agreeing with what the Dr had said until she mentioned the so-called good things that came out of slavery and colonization. I would have liked to ask her if she ever thought of what Africans and africa would have been if not for slavery.

Hi my rich aunty please tell your boss from California that papa dock didn't liberate Haiti it was a Jamaican by the name of book man plus that lady knows her history I just don't understand how she join a religion

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That’s a foolish statement I pray the father have mercy on you in that hour REPENT for the kingdom of heaven is at hand

1 Peter 4:12-16 KJV [12] Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: [13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. [14] If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye ; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. [15] But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. [16] Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

Say it brother, Kabakja Mwanga was very right

Boss..Kabaka mwanga was used to burn those pipo because Europeans were more advanced in propaganda..they are the ones that burnt uganda martyrs and blamed Mwanga...those days Ugandans had no idea who pink(whites)pipo were ideologically,.....so i think its time to undo all those bogus propaganda...

Brother Saying JESUS was black am not saying this as idolatry or creating another JESUS for myself . But that's the truth brother that's how His Word talks about Him so that's the way it is . Part 2

20:35 I love Neil Degrasse Tyson. One of the few black Scientists

We need part two. Africa will only progress religion is replaced by African/Kemetic spirituality.

@Oshay you do know slave owners in America got reparations also when slavery was abolished

May I correct one of your guest. Christian religion is not from a western country, however during the Roman empire they cleverly took the history of this Middle eastern/African religion and rewrite it to their advantage. Hence most books and prophets are missing in today's western and Eastern bible.

It’s true. Black people read the weak verses like love your enemy and other people read the verses about ruling the world and controlling the people.

I think we all agree. Both Christianity and Islam. Are born from the Old Testament "Judaism". Literature from one group of people during the "Bronze age". A fairly weak group of people amongst many others. With their own religious beliefs. My question is when you study the history of the Bible? And understand its origins. How can you believe or have faith? In any of the previously mentioned religions.

Great, great topic! And eff that, Kenganda! I agree with the title! Christianity has DEFINITELY made us weak! I used to be part of the Hebrew Israelite community. I studied the Bible in its entirety for almost 4 years, and I still study it to this day. Although I know they are a controversial group, the one thing that drew a lot of blacks in the Diaspora to them because we believed in a Christ that looked like us based on certain scriptures they pulled. When you see yourself in a religion, you learn to love yourself and your race that much more. Whether its Christianity or Muslims, neither have a black face as their mascots, so to speak. It plays a huge role in the African psyche and how we treat each other.

Invite an Isrealite camp to the show for a part 2

Sighs...our people don't realize that the Bibls itself address our issues of being lost people and what's disconcerting is that our people will criticize their own book but will turn around and accept the Quran and the slavery of Islam.

You watched false prophits use manipulation for their own personal gain and just decided that "God" is wrong! What does God have to do with the anti-Christ? People who choose to do wickedly.

We still have to remember, we were not colonized or our land taken because of the bible , it was accomplished through the new weapon of gun powder,. The computer in it self is not bad but people use it for good and evil , the bible is a great book , people use it for good and evil, it's not the world that is bad it's they that live in it..

Reading the bible can be like reading a university physics book. But pastors will lie to you more than a professor

Holy Book of Deuteronomy : Chapter 28 Explains when my people were sent into slavery : Blessings & Curses!!!

I don't think Christianity is the answer. It's not an empowering religion. It tells you to put everything on Jesus. It tells you that you're born less than. It tells you to just pray. There is nothing uplifting about any of that.

I grew up in a Christian family when i was ten years i lost my mother who was and still is the only biological parent i know and my auntie took me and raised me and she later started her own church and i was raised to be a pastor i did it all preaching house to house street to street city to city age of 16 i accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savor baptised but all this while i always had a problem with the religion but i just couldn't place my hand on what was the problem later i moved from Port Elizabeth to cape town later while in cape town i joined the Rastafari movement but still had the same problem the movement felt more like the Christian religion the defferent was Christians worship Jesus Christ who for many years has been white and later became olive and now he has no color coz all of a sudden no one knows what color he was and his name does not matter on the other hand Rastafari movement worship Haile Silasie I as God in flesh some say he is the second coming of Jesus Christ they worship a black man So i then sat and looked at both of them and there was some truth on the Rastafari movement but the problem was they were only thinking outside the box now the thing is there is actually no defferent between someone who think inside the box and the one who thinks outside the box they both have the box the one who thinks inside the box his thinking is only measured by the box and the one who thinks outside the box his thinking is not measured by the box but as long as the box is still there he will always make reference to the box what does the box say am i in line with the box that is the Rastafari movement problem so i kept on searching asking questions controversial questions read the scripture search history coz i came to overstanding that to overstand scripture you need to learn history And i realized that actually we've been played One the scripture is black man history but they took it and made it thier history and called it the holy bible the characters in the scripture were black people from Adam to the Messiah YAHAWAHSHI HAMASHIAK whom they also changed to Jesus Christ all of them were black people the three sons of Noah were all black Japhet was black shem was black ham was black they should tell people the truth of how the white race came to be coz the Most High did not create the white man scripture say he made man from the ground show me a white ground and he said let us make man in our image according to our likeness the most high is black the Messiah is black the children of YAHSHAR AL/ISRAEL are black people now not all black people are YAHSHAR AL/ISRAEL some are just Shemites some Hebrew and some from the line of ham so even when you hear them say blacks also sold blacks know that not all blacks were meant to go into slavery it was specifically for the children of Ya'acab/Jacob for it is through them all Nations kindred and tongue will be saved but that does not include the white race if you think im being racist or what read the book of Obadiah, you see Esau mixed himself with the fallen angels the serpents and him and the seed of the fallen angels which also includes his seed met the descendents of Japhet in Greece and whited them out the scripture tells us the Greecians/Japhet and the Edomites/Edom/Esau became one kingdom in Greece the book of Obadiah tells us that Edom/ Esau for the violence he persecuted against his brother shall all be destroyed and none shall remain for his seed

THE VOODOO IS OPPRESSING HAITI RIGHT NOW!!

Those bold Boers are still being pushed off the land so a lot of good it did them.

Damn you dear not tell the typical African (US, UK, Caribbean, European based) that religion both Isalm and Christianity is a man made manipulative tool.

Joanita your looking good girl

The old testament itself or the words on the page are just as anti African as the folks who gave us the bookl

I see alot of people state that Christianity is a European religion when it is not. The first church came into existence in Egypt not Israel or Europe. Ethiopia is not the the only place in Africa that practiced christianity in ancient times the kingdoms of Makuria and Nobadia in present day Sudan. Also other North African kingdoms all practiced Christianity before the incursion of islam. That was centuries before the Byzantine empire adopted(hijacked) it and it spread to Europe. The whole foundation of Christianity that is practiced today by the Church comes from St. Augustine a North African( that doesn't mean he was white either. The only picture's you'll will see of were made after his death). So Christianity is essentially African. Yall never heard of St. Moses or St. Maurice? They were both black from Egypt and gave their lives for it. There are others to. The white Jesus you see today is a Italian man named Cesar Borgia who lived way after the fact. So if you worship that picture your not worshipping Jesus. The people in power knew that europeans would not worship someone who did not look like them so they created a white Jesus. Oshay was right in what he was saying about a Jesus that looks like you even though there is a verse in bible about graven images but if it would empower you to do better go for it because the bible also says faith without works is dead. You cant just pray, go to church, and expect God to change things for you. You have to do the work for God to bless you.

It sure does make Christians weak, and makes grown men cry like babies . As for the Israelites, Hell no!

This conversation is 🤯🤢🤮 how can an african say 'do not throw the baby with the bathwater' see we speak 'english' wth did i just listen to?