The Biggest Scandal in Chess History: The Full Story

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The BIGGEST Chess Cheating Scandal Ever? From the current world chess champion Magnus Carlsen resigning in protest and incredulous "beads" conspiracies to the 100 Million Dollar lawsuits against the largest chess companies in the world - Andrea Botez will cover the whole story from start to finish in this video.
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00:00 The Chess Cheating Scandal
01:26 Hans Niemann vs Magnus Carlsen
03:13 Sinquefield Cup
05:53 Cheating Accusations
07:56 Hans' Online Cheating
09:30 Magnus Resigns
10:12 Magnus' Statement
11:15 $100 Million Defamation Lawsuit

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@GothamChess
@GothamChess Жыл бұрын
The craziest chess story is actually you avoiding a chessboxing match against me
@pazecs
@pazecs Жыл бұрын
haha lol
@Tejoz
@Tejoz Жыл бұрын
😂
@robertfisher9588
@robertfisher9588 Жыл бұрын
Alas, bad backs speak for themselves too.
@loganharrie8220
@loganharrie8220 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@daanreehoorn3403
@daanreehoorn3403 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha fr
@ToddHughlett
@ToddHughlett Жыл бұрын
“No one has got away with (cheating) at a high level”. BUT if they had got away with it, you wouldn’t know, would you….? 🤔
@thecurliest_fry
@thecurliest_fry Жыл бұрын
Lol, I scrolled down right after I heard that line.
@rasicule
@rasicule Жыл бұрын
@@thecurliest_fry haha same
@johannezz93
@johannezz93 Жыл бұрын
DUN DUN DUUUN
@vlrginizer927
@vlrginizer927 Жыл бұрын
I think its a joke but when you win a tournament and confess years later you technically got away with cheating
@RB0087
@RB0087 Жыл бұрын
(the opponents of) Borislav Ivanov would beg to differ... I guess he didn't completely get away with it since he got a ban for a while, but no one uncovered hard proof of how he did it. Officials just saw an FM suddenly playing 100% perfect games every game. Then he moved on from chess and ran an ID counterfeiting ring before going to prison. What a guy.
@manakin5
@manakin5 Жыл бұрын
I just started hearing about this whole thing (I'm not really a chess player, but just someone who likes the game and watches educational videos now and then). I'm so glad to have come across this video, I was only getting bits and pieces of the story here and there beforehand. Thank you, very well done! With some nice comedic touches :)
@JasperKloek
@JasperKloek Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@petea6904
@petea6904 Жыл бұрын
Start doing mini expose type pieces like this outside of chess, grow your brand...you tell a story very well, I would tune in for other stories but do it just like this
@King6d9
@King6d9 Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer’s peak rating is 2895 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Garry Kasparov’s peak rating is 2856 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Hans Niemann’s peak rating is 2688 - and he has had 10 games with 100% accuracy. One of those games was 42 consecutive perfect moves, and it was not a blowout type of game either. Doing that is pretty much impossible. Hans is 19 years old with 10 perfect games already, Magnus (peak rating 2882) is 31 and has had only 2 perfect games in his whole career. People that don’t think this is at least credible evidence are incredibly naive.
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@Chando No one is talking about comparisons for the court though. This is a social issue. We treat social justice different than court justice. Evidence is treated differently in social situations. I think you know this. For example, Say you have a friend / girlfriend that frequents your house. Whenever they come over, you notice that things are suddenly missing. One day it's a phone charger, another day it's some money you left out on your desk in your room. You confront them about it and ask them, they deny it. They say I did not steal and you have no 'evidence' to believe I did do it. In this world (the world you're laying out in your comment) you have no moral justification in taking action in protecting your belongings from this person. Would you just say 'oh I guess so, you're right I don't have any evidence..' and move on? Would you go and buy cameras and put them all around your house so you can get evidence? Would you continue to allow them to steal your stuff? What happens when cameras can't solve this dilemma? What I would say to someone in such a situation is I don't need HARD evidence to confront you about it, and stop allowing you into my house. The circumstances surrounding my stuff going missing and you coming over happens way too often. Without a shadow of a doubt? This means zero in social situations. We take probability over 'without a shadow of a doubt'. Of course there's a chance the stuff was not stolen by the friend/girlfriend. But that's kind of irrelevant. I hope you're following this example, my point is the circumstances surrounding Hans is way too much of a 'coincidence' (having a cheater be his mentor, the accuracy of the games, PLUS the opinions of the GMs who closely observe the situation) to just be brushed off by someone like you as 'without a shadow of a doubt'. In social issues, we can take action even if its not 100%.
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx Жыл бұрын
@@saiyansfizz it's not a social issue, it's in the courts now.
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx It is a social issue. The 'court' issue that rose from it is irrelevant to what I was talking about. Just because something ends up in the court doesn't mean its not a social issue. Hans is taking Magnus to court for defamation ... not the other way around. Magnus is not taking Hans to court for cheating. My comment was talking about the validity of the view that Hans is a cheater That would be like the friend taking you to court over saying to other people that they're a thief... ( see my example ) ... it is a social issue still
@saiyansfizz
@saiyansfizz Жыл бұрын
@Chando Ok well I'm glad you admitted that you don't care about it. Us in the chess community do, as it's affecting the integrity of the game & sport in general. If you have been a part of chess for a long time (as I have) then you would care. So if you don't care, please just take a step back and don't just say things without any backing. If someone were to be cheating in baseball, basketball or any other spectator sport does this matter? Well it does for the people who invest the time and effort to follow these things. Social issue disingenuous? Not really. The original comment that you replied to was talking about 'credible evidence' in the terms of whether or not YOU should consider Hans a cheater. Nothing about 'the courts'. You were the one who brought up the courts (which is irrelevant because we're talking about a social issue) Even if we were talking about the court case, Hans is taking MAGNUS to court for DEFAMATION. not the other way around. I could understand if Magnus was taking Hans to court and then you label it a court issue. But it's not that way.
@sleuth2077
@sleuth2077 Жыл бұрын
@@chando1603 it's circumstantial evidence and people have most definitely been convicted by juries on circumstantial evidence alone. Where there's smoke there's fire is a popular saying for a reason.
@onemorejoe1
@onemorejoe1 Жыл бұрын
This was so funny. “This was not the only thing Hikaru said”. Had me laughing quite hard, this whole satirical telling haha. Two thumbs up
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
Hikaru is not lacking for words on anything,
@oosmanbeekawoo
@oosmanbeekawoo Жыл бұрын
(You have to give _three_ thumbs up!)
@swyxTV
@swyxTV Жыл бұрын
*sips tea*
@RabbitConfirmed
@RabbitConfirmed Жыл бұрын
@@toriless he happens to be a streamer that plays chess at this point💀
@andrewdinns1746
@andrewdinns1746 Жыл бұрын
4:34 the fake accent cracks me up everytime.
@john-carlosynostroza
@john-carlosynostroza 7 ай бұрын
I'm a full-time professional magician/Illusionist, mind reader. I am also chess player. Cheating in a high-security tournament would be easy for me and my friends at the top of the magic business. Just sayin... the chess groups should hire us to watch over live tournaments. They are definitely missing potential technologies for passing data. In fact, wow there are numerous methods to use technology there are also brick-and-mortar methods combined with technology that are almost invisible to just about everybody other than absolute experts in the magic industry. ( I'm totally serious. So if somebody to reach out to discuss this further would be glad to)
@luisandraschnik3001
@luisandraschnik3001 3 ай бұрын
Yes!! I was an amateur magician year ago . Paranormal claims and cheats vanishing when a competent magician is present. I love the story of James Randy's Alpha Project.
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all Ай бұрын
make a video doing so, record before you do it, record during the tournament and afterwards give your remarks, learn how to edit videos or get someone to edit them really well for you, then post on many chess boards and watch your video go viral. In no time you'll be getting phone calls to work for the big tournaments..
@uns33n
@uns33n Ай бұрын
@@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all I don't think a member of the public would have the access required to find and document the potential methods.
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all Ай бұрын
@@uns33n wtf does that even mean a member of the public? make enough money to buy a camera and a computer to edit the video, search up chess tournaments, cheat, don't accept the money if its a cash tournament, then edit it and upload it, not that hard
@grandpatzer
@grandpatzer Жыл бұрын
Good job Andrea for showcasing this story in such a way that won't get you sued!
@michaelwalmsley7668
@michaelwalmsley7668 Жыл бұрын
Or at least not for more than a million or two.
@jasonknight9679
@jasonknight9679 Жыл бұрын
She could say anything she wants about Niemann and she wouldn't get sued. He is going after people and institutions that actually have some money.
@George_Jacob
@George_Jacob Жыл бұрын
You use "THEY SAID" or "ITS IS RUMORED" and nobody can sue you.
@yousuck6222
@yousuck6222 Жыл бұрын
Tthe good thing about being poor is no-one can sue you for anything.
@jaysea142857
@jaysea142857 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, AB. Thanks.
@garretthorner
@garretthorner Жыл бұрын
Andrea sarcastically sipping the tea is comedy gold 😂
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
I imply NOTHING, I was just thirsty.
@quill444
@quill444 Жыл бұрын
We desperately need a _Chess Tea and Analysis Moment with Andrea Botez_ . . . your weekly bedtime story show -- make it happen! ☕ 🍩 💚 - j q t -
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is always comedy gold. Even without her sister. She's such a ham.
@ElEcodelTren
@ElEcodelTren Жыл бұрын
yes
@DoobieFerguson
@DoobieFerguson Жыл бұрын
@@quill444 Did you sign a KZfaq comment? wtf
@projectmo1352
@projectmo1352 10 ай бұрын
Did Hans cheat? - yes Do we have a proof - no
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth Ай бұрын
Who would want to touch that _proof_ though 😂
@jhudson_tiedye
@jhudson_tiedye Ай бұрын
he actually admitted it, and was caught on multiple occasions
@screamityeah
@screamityeah 13 күн бұрын
If there is no proof then how do you know he cheated in real tournaments?
@screamityeah
@screamityeah 13 күн бұрын
​@@jhudson_tiedyeOnline not in real life tournaments
@projectmo1352
@projectmo1352 13 күн бұрын
@@screamityeah he doesn't have a proper explaination of doing the best engine move
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 9 ай бұрын
Long story short: we don't know if he cheated but everything points toward that.
@obscurity3027
@obscurity3027 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic breakdown of exactly what happened step-by-step. A lot of news outlets don’t quite understand all the nuance of the story like you do because you’re in the chess community, you personally know these guys, and you understand the details. Really well done, Andrea!
@electricpaisy6045
@electricpaisy6045 Жыл бұрын
I still missed the part about the plug though
@peterjames232
@peterjames232 Жыл бұрын
Hans played chess with Andrea and tried a date after the game.
@spartanAXA
@spartanAXA Жыл бұрын
News outlets don't know about chess as much as Andrea
@jacobmarroquin9522
@jacobmarroquin9522 Жыл бұрын
What details!! besides a step a step… how is Hans cheating??!?!? Where’s anyone’s evidence?? all she did was telling these people are in twitter war!
@mrkiky
@mrkiky Жыл бұрын
Yes she was personally hit on by Hans Nieman, quite awkwardly I might add. Also, I dunno what's been happening to Hans, but he looks like he aged 20 years in the last 2 years. He's younger than Andrea but she looks like she could be his daughter 😂
@rickygrenadier6303
@rickygrenadier6303 Жыл бұрын
This is truly one of the chess stories in the history of chess.
@felixal
@felixal Жыл бұрын
thhis is a test DId they block me 1 2 3 test
@fredouz
@fredouz Жыл бұрын
@@felixal no
@Zobokolobozo
@Zobokolobozo 9 ай бұрын
Idk Hans really is 2 suspicious of a character to be believed tbh. The fact that you speak 1 language ur entire life and then for no reason you turn into a 2 year into speaking english russian accent is way 2 crazy. That alone makes me think he is guilty.
@ubberJakerz
@ubberJakerz Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly well shot, edited, and delivered. Please give us more content like this! The end was hilarious 🤣
@amcds2867
@amcds2867 Жыл бұрын
it makes sense he would take this to court seeing that apparently there is no concrete evidence to justify the decision to ban him and he's taking advantage of that, though i suspect foul play. i hope the truth comes out, whatever it is.
@speederbrad95
@speederbrad95 Жыл бұрын
Andrea should host a chess news show.
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz Жыл бұрын
Alex and Andrea should.
@gundarsmiks4889
@gundarsmiks4889 Жыл бұрын
Chess mews! Yes!
@Keatsounet
@Keatsounet Жыл бұрын
Not enough news in chess ^^
@johningle1
@johningle1 Жыл бұрын
In lingerie.
@erohtarrath7549
@erohtarrath7549 Жыл бұрын
@@johningle1 if you want to wear lingerie you can bro, embrace it
@satyakibiswas5315
@satyakibiswas5315 Жыл бұрын
Andrea rejected Hans Hans - enters into villan arc
@alanramos5322
@alanramos5322 Жыл бұрын
Did she, tho
@theclutch19
@theclutch19 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Hans winning ten perfect games is not beyond the realm of possibility will win him the lawsuit. Without proof, they all defamed him.
@31acruz
@31acruz Жыл бұрын
Andrea, you did a great job covering this. You are a natural broadcaster, that was professional quality that people twice your age can't pull off sometimes, well done! great job!
@luc1drats
@luc1drats Жыл бұрын
I was worried that this would be a bad look for Andrea because of her knowing Hans personally and all, but I loved how concise , to the point and fun it was to watch this. I think she should do more video commentaries, it suits her!
@YouTubeCensorsFreeSpeech
@YouTubeCensorsFreeSpeech Жыл бұрын
Uh… not
@chriskeith5742
@chriskeith5742 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Jump, this was 12 mins wasted. In essence she just retold the timeline that has been reported all across the internet. Added absolutely nothing in regards.
@dougadams8057
@dougadams8057 Жыл бұрын
Burner confirmed
@chriskeith5742
@chriskeith5742 Жыл бұрын
@@dougadams8057You just gave yourself away, Luc
@elite3221
@elite3221 Жыл бұрын
She also knows Magnus. So it's fair. Also this video is unbiased. Just showing what happened
@MrRyanxdavey
@MrRyanxdavey Жыл бұрын
Andrea is so much better like this than her hyper crazy antics. This is a fantastic format for her.
@peterjames232
@peterjames232 Жыл бұрын
It's funny, we know she is loud, and suddenly she surprise us with this format, I like it.
@codevii9063
@codevii9063 Жыл бұрын
I kind of like her hyper crazy antics, but yes, this was great too.
@noone-gf5op
@noone-gf5op Жыл бұрын
why not both? I think people naturally have more than one constant way of being. depending on mood, who we're with, what we do... I really liked this video and her concise story telling because it fits. I also think her hyper loud self is fun and fitting in more casual videos. if anything I find Botez content to be top tier because these two really know how to exist in both plains and do it right. so many influencers try to keep up a branded personality, but real people have a spectrum
@kev_mclernon_family_channe4745
@kev_mclernon_family_channe4745 Жыл бұрын
You often like to be silly in videos, but I think this presentation indicates that you have on-screen talents that can lead where you seek success, whether as a chess commentator or broadcast news. Cool stuff, I've followed this since the beginning since I followed the tournaments - but I was looking for a video I could share with my non-chess-playing friends, and you are the one, Thank you so much!! kev
@user-hi9jy5wy1m
@user-hi9jy5wy1m 2 ай бұрын
Dude, she's never going to sleep with you. Stop embarrassing yourself.
@vinayaktripathi8307
@vinayaktripathi8307 2 ай бұрын
just shut up dude. she is not going to read this bs
@felixchien1664
@felixchien1664 Жыл бұрын
Someone did an experiment with a chip being in a shoe. It was actually confirmed that a chip in a shoe can be undetected by metal detectors. Makes sense why airports require you to take off your shoes.
@SixPathz
@SixPathz Жыл бұрын
Hans going out on a date with Andrea speaks for itself.
@LeqsoMaisuradze
@LeqsoMaisuradze Жыл бұрын
ahhaha
@pradiptosensarma1672
@pradiptosensarma1672 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Karadjanov
@Karadjanov Жыл бұрын
She's half right. Cheating is difficult to prove. But the security measures are so behind that we don't even know how easy it may be to cheat on most tournaments.
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
That and a lot of these tournaments have serious prize money. Imagine being able to guarantee yourself a top 3 spot a few tournaments throughout the year, could be a couple hundred thousand $. Everything about Hans is a red flag he’s definitely cheated OTB and recently. Imo if you take the time to get creative and find a way to do it I don’t even think it’d be that difficult. Way too much technology for me to think it isn’t 100% possible in probably dozens of ways
@Karadjanov
@Karadjanov Жыл бұрын
@@case6189 That is absolutely correct! And what many people have pointed out is that these people (Hans in particular) are already very good at chess they do not need to cheat at every move. All it takes is 1 moment of outside help at the right time and he can win a game against a better player. The security measures need to be drastically updated and improved. I also hope that Hans burns his money and reputation in these lawsuits that he started. He had the chance to quit chess while it was still unclear and many people defended him and use the created controversy to his advantage and make a lot of money and have a good life but he is an egoistical and greedy sob and he deserves the worst
@molikeur
@molikeur Жыл бұрын
​@@case6189 But a part from the beads that would imply him making noise in a quiet room and learning some sort of morse code for the 64 squares and the pieces, what else is p r o b a b l e ?
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
@@molikeur why don’t you explain why a long time cheater and liar deserves the benefit of the doubt over the world champion
@case6189
@case6189 Жыл бұрын
@@molikeur like I said there’s probably dozens of ways to cheat if you really wanted to. We can start with banning known cheaters and then decide how to run future tournaments. Doubt either will happen anytime soon
@jovannysanchez
@jovannysanchez Жыл бұрын
I need to watch the next stream immedialy. Andrea being this calm for a whole 12 minutes is.... Please stream soon lmao XD
@loganb452
@loganb452 Жыл бұрын
This was very professionally created and presented, better than most newscasters! I hope we see more of these short 'reporting the important news from chess' in the future!
@Fauxkuhila
@Fauxkuhila Жыл бұрын
This was great. You should do more breakdowns like this. Current chess drama, historical chess drama...it would be great.
@teemupulkkinen5382
@teemupulkkinen5382 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is the chess journalist that we don’t deserve but the one we need. :) The ending of the video was excellent!
@sanchi1337
@sanchi1337 Жыл бұрын
yeah with informations other youtubers already brought out 2 weeks ago lmao
@Bear8Photo
@Bear8Photo Жыл бұрын
@@sanchi1337 ya dam drama frog! 🐸
@sanchi1337
@sanchi1337 Жыл бұрын
@@Bear8Photo im just beeing honest and realistic
@mariogk90
@mariogk90 Жыл бұрын
Simp
@ThaiOdessy
@ThaiOdessy Жыл бұрын
@@sanchi1337 To those who don't play chess, this was an interesting and entertaining news presentation (plus it made you smile at the end).
@fyru_zero6344
@fyru_zero6344 Жыл бұрын
bro i dont understand, how do you use a cheat engine in a boardgame(irl), like how does it works? vibrating when sees a good move? i dont understand pls tell me
@vaishnavsuresh7043
@vaishnavsuresh7043 2 ай бұрын
Apparently vibrates in morse code
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube Жыл бұрын
When people say Hans says he hasn't cheated since he was 16, they should provide the context that he's still only 19. It's not like it was ages ago.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
Ages 16, 17, 18, and now 19. It _was_ ages ago :D
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
Andrea is always funny but she's well spoken as well.
@MrJungle123
@MrJungle123 Жыл бұрын
Dude, she's averagely spoken.
@bolts3catch
@bolts3catch Жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda wish I was listening to Alex tbh
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
You clowns can always go to other channels. Nobody here will miss you. Looks like many people agree with my statement. Yours, not so much.
@buymore6288
@buymore6288 Жыл бұрын
Andrea speaks for itself
@TheCodeGuy12
@TheCodeGuy12 Жыл бұрын
But she can't pronounce "defamation" correctly. SMH
@ThatguyJoshman
@ThatguyJoshman 4 ай бұрын
Needed this summary... Great job!
@DonCron
@DonCron Жыл бұрын
hm a good wrap up about the situation in a pretty short time. Well done!
@SB737
@SB737 Жыл бұрын
This nicely summed the whole story up, saves me watching 20 videos to know everything now :)
@iiWongv
@iiWongv Жыл бұрын
yoo didn't expect to find you here keep up the hardcore!
@YellowDuckTheReal
@YellowDuckTheReal Жыл бұрын
Yoo SB i didn't expect you to be here lol wanna play a game of chess??
@oscarw1060
@oscarw1060 Жыл бұрын
SB737!!!
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577 9 ай бұрын
Sb what is your elo
@hypertommy8851
@hypertommy8851 8 ай бұрын
Lol last place I expected to find you
@AR-mu2rz
@AR-mu2rz Жыл бұрын
$100 million dollar lawsuit...A Million for Each Time he was caught Cheating LOL
@spectator5144
@spectator5144 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johannesincalifornia
@johannesincalifornia 9 ай бұрын
You cheat once, you're a cheater. Reputation gone by character judgement. Even if you don't cheat later, no-one believes you.
@user-so8kx7uj2x
@user-so8kx7uj2x Жыл бұрын
I'm sure that he cheated. No way he managed to play 100%accuracy with so much stress involved, when the two greatest players of all time never managed to. He's not even at Kasparov's level!!!
@chali8762
@chali8762 Жыл бұрын
True, true
@tardenov2968
@tardenov2968 Жыл бұрын
100% accuracy? He and Andrea said reasone he won is that magnus played poorly in the game he played only about 40% top engine moves and that is small for a world champion it just wasnt his day it happens i have days when i play so poorly peoppe that are rated 300 points behind me can beat me and days when i go into god mode i had a tournament where i played poorly against weaker players one week later i went to another tournament and every player i played there was stronger than me and i was in 5th out of 50 il
@Erebus369
@Erebus369 Жыл бұрын
His rapid rise in ranking makes me question his abilities and how it came to be. I'm not a chess player but it piqued my interest in playing.
@HYPERC666
@HYPERC666 Жыл бұрын
I just started learning chess a week ago from seeing your Lex interview. I'm getting annhilated every single go. But i'm addicted and i love it.
@FFadeaway
@FFadeaway Жыл бұрын
Keep trucking on, it gets better.
@HYPERC666
@HYPERC666 Жыл бұрын
@@FFadeaway reminds me of when i started jiu jitsu. Being wrapped up like a sandwhich, not knowing what is happening
@anderslarsen4412
@anderslarsen4412 Жыл бұрын
Don't give up! Chess is amazing! Think about it like this: You're not playing to win against the opponent, as much as you're playing to improve your game. The best players in the world still lose almost 50% of their games! (because they play opponents who have same skill). Everyone loses a lot in the beginning. But only some choose to fight and learn until they become good players!
@audisuresgameplay5686
@audisuresgameplay5686 Жыл бұрын
6:03 The Special one does end up appearing everywhere doesn't he? 🤣🤣
@adilshekh8879
@adilshekh8879 11 ай бұрын
11:24 "My lawsuit speaks for itself". 😂 what a legend
@luciabotez3251
@luciabotez3251 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Andrea! Informing, funny and good pace!
@douglasnelson4117
@douglasnelson4117 Жыл бұрын
Pace. Keep the FACE
@dxnce7593
@dxnce7593 Жыл бұрын
I like How Andrea stayed unbiased here even tho she know Hans for ages & his friend! And She know Magnus too but still stayed unbiased
@lokolb
@lokolb Жыл бұрын
Andrea should do an in depth investigative video showing if and how those beads could work
@jasonbuksh2958
@jasonbuksh2958 8 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure - but the way that he talked through the game, not being specific and being very abstracted and vague - just shouts 'CHEAT"
@currywhiskers
@currywhiskers Жыл бұрын
The most professionalism I've seen from Andrea. Jokes aside, this was a great summary.
@nathanbaker7603
@nathanbaker7603 Жыл бұрын
What joke lol
@OIP_1
@OIP_1 Жыл бұрын
i feel like i've read and seen *way* too much about this story already but i still watched this, great storytelling andrea
@H0LYSM0KES
@H0LYSM0KES Жыл бұрын
2:01 dude thinks he's a main character in an anime 🤣
@joediditde
@joediditde Жыл бұрын
All beads aside, isn't Hans still owed a date with Andrea?
@mikezaloznyy5613
@mikezaloznyy5613 Жыл бұрын
I am very impressed by how objective, concise and informative this video is. Great job!!!
@mlinxl9090
@mlinxl9090 Жыл бұрын
@teflontelefon yes that is objective it would seem
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 Жыл бұрын
Andrea's voice sounds very nice when she is not yelling :D
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
but she usually is
@mlukman7036
@mlukman7036 Жыл бұрын
how it can be marked as "cheating scandal" if we are not even able to prove it 🤨
@DreamerHCF
@DreamerHCF Жыл бұрын
I mean he did cheat only therefore the title is not wrong
@pradyumna25
@pradyumna25 8 ай бұрын
When you can't win, just destroy the opponent 😆😆
@utkarshdubey282
@utkarshdubey282 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that date with Hans went quite serious. Anyways brilliantly uncovered the story with least amount of bias, someone needed to make this kind of video.
@siddhaarthanad479
@siddhaarthanad479 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to know what the full story is about this issue, and this is exactly what i needed :P
@petrucci22
@petrucci22 Жыл бұрын
Having suspiciously perfect accurate games, without having the ability to explain your moves to an interviewer is more than enough to me… and for Magnus for that matter. Hans is a criminal mastermind who is able to cheat over the board bypassing all security measures… but he’s certainly cheating for the aforementioned reason above.
@robertwilson3866
@robertwilson3866 Жыл бұрын
He admitted cheating in the past twice . Why stop then? That is all you need to know really. Most people who are gifted at chess wouldn't even bother cheating. You need to a be a particular type of person with no morals or empathy to do it
@Odium47
@Odium47 Жыл бұрын
once a cheater, always a cheater
@lucinema
@lucinema Жыл бұрын
Do more things like this, Andrea, I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this as you for some reason like to have your inside voice set to 100. But a calm and collected Andrea, Absolutely Fantastic
@betadecay6503
@betadecay6503 6 ай бұрын
Why do so many people like you feel the need to insult her while pretending to compliment her? She is who she is, she's not gonna change just because some loser on KZfaq gave her a backhanded compliment. "I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this..." Seriously? Why are you like this?
@lucinema
@lucinema 6 ай бұрын
@@betadecay6503 ahhh I don't believe I was giving her a backhanded compliment, do you even watch the Botez sisters? Andrea has always been a very hyper active and loud individual and we love her for that and this was a new style of content that she released that was a delightful surprise as we had not seen her in this light. Me asking for more content like this was out of appreciation of how amazing of a job she did in this video. Sorry if my words came across negative that was not my intention :P
@betadecay6503
@betadecay6503 6 ай бұрын
@@lucinema Fair enough if it wasn't your intention but I don't see how this is not a backhanded compliment. You literally told her you didn't think she was capable of being serious. I'd argue that if you didn't know Andrea was capable of this then you do not watch her enough. She's good at everything she puts her mind to...except protecting her queen.
@DanielBoonelight
@DanielBoonelight 2 ай бұрын
@@lucinema good gracious the world is so full of males voicing that females are *too much* and should be *less than* what they most naturally are. props to andrea for not making herself smaller to fit in anyone's boring a*% boxes.
@justinwilliams2381
@justinwilliams2381 Жыл бұрын
7:04-7:30 I knew Andrea's response was coming, but it was still hilarious 😂
@toriless
@toriless Жыл бұрын
It felt shorter than most of their videos but I doubt it was.
@ludomirsteinbruck9376
@ludomirsteinbruck9376 Жыл бұрын
@@toriless If hikaru says he is only saying one thing, we all know he is going on and and on
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Жыл бұрын
Unsurprisingly, you have a cunning way of mixing in some humor to this very serious story. Thanks for the summary and I hope you do updates.
@KeithCarunida
@KeithCarunida Жыл бұрын
What's up with the faux camera-shake in the punch-ins?
@martinberit3558
@martinberit3558 Жыл бұрын
Well spoken, well structured.. you are getting serious, Andrea. Thanks
@davidreim4609
@davidreim4609 Жыл бұрын
As someone on the very outer fringes of chess, I would like to say that that was very informative and very well done.
@Spironic
@Spironic Жыл бұрын
1:19 “To this day, no one has gotten away with it at the top level.” A bit tautological, no? If we knew someone had ‘gotten away with it’, they wouldn’t have gotten away with it?
@avc2803
@avc2803 Жыл бұрын
Jose Mourinho in between made it more funnier
@seamus9305
@seamus9305 Жыл бұрын
This story is the best. I knew all that stuff but Andrea did such a good, concise, compelling job that I had to listen again.
@demetsentvrk
@demetsentvrk Жыл бұрын
Andrea you need to make more videos like this hahaha so good!
@spidaman0112
@spidaman0112 Жыл бұрын
His comments on looking at an opening before a game then it coming up happens often..
@robertwilson3866
@robertwilson3866 Жыл бұрын
That Wesley guy is defending his name "Wesley...SO?!"
@spencerhorne5627
@spencerhorne5627 Жыл бұрын
The defaymation case speaks for itself
@Godsecution
@Godsecution Жыл бұрын
They know who they are, they can speak for themselves.
@adrianioancucuiet346
@adrianioancucuiet346 Жыл бұрын
OMG i love the way you present things, i think you would be a great presenter!!!
@lancecosmo8039
@lancecosmo8039 Жыл бұрын
The craziest chess story is him beating you and you ghosting him for the date
@nedruss7040
@nedruss7040 11 ай бұрын
I am not familiar with this game. However, as a scientist, I believe it is the obligation of the one proposing the hypothesis to prove it. First, no one (to the date of this video) has shown how Niemann is supposed to have cheated. There was mention in the video of using an "engine", presumably some form of AI to provide optimum moves. How he was using an engine while sitting at a table in full public view after going through tighter body searches than at airports on Sept 12, 2001 is never explained. Maybe somebody has some ideas, however, nothing came up in the video nor the comments that I've seen. The narrator says that Carlsen had a bad game (for a grand master). To me, this looks like a game between the Bengals and the Chiefs. The Chiefs are a better team, but played badly that day, so the Bengals won. Some days you just lose because you didn't play well. It is peculiar how Niemann qualified his answer to the cheating question, though. He has never cheated in an "over the board" game? So, has he cheated online? That's like saying I've never cheated on my wife with a blonde.
@zachowland
@zachowland Жыл бұрын
I think you meant "5 championship matches in a row", not "5 years in a row".
@AnaCristinaG
@AnaCristinaG Жыл бұрын
No new information for me. I really loved that you didn’t “ forgot” any detail, because, details really matters. You we’re honest and not bias to any side. Good job Andrea! Loved every second! ( the one thing I don’t understand on this all storyline is, if Magnus thought that Hans was a cheater in Saint Luis how didn’t he had the same point of view 10 days earlier in Miami and played him like nothing is wrong!??? Can someone please have a theory!????? I’m dying here!!!!)
@Factacious
@Factacious Жыл бұрын
A quote from Hikaru that sound like a good explanation. "Probably when he saw Hans’s play in Miami, and on the beach…it didn’t match with the level of the play in the actual event, when you combine it with the long-existing rumours, Magnus became convinced something was off". I will say that it is a case of enough is enough. Personally, I think the evidence is overwhelming. I hope you survive and prosper :)
@bl8896
@bl8896 Жыл бұрын
Money... my best guess is that whole beach fiasco was to give the public what they wanted and they probably offered too much $ to turn down, why else would they do it
@stvcolwill
@stvcolwill Жыл бұрын
to my knowledge, Magnus has never intimated that Hans actually cheated AT the Sinqfield. This very well could have been an extension of his disagreement (along with others) of allowing him to even play as a sub in in the tourney in the first place. Given Hans' history as a cheater which most high level players new about, it's very plausible that Magnus didn't even want to be across the board from a known cheater (phyche mess). It's hard mind-bendingly enough to play in a legendary tourney at that level, let alone with the added (tons of) weight of facing a known cheater over the board. This whole thing quite well may have been a zero-tolerance stance on cheaters by Magnus.
@HFBeep
@HFBeep Жыл бұрын
The reason no one has been documented to get away with cheating at the top level is bcuz they weren’t caught 💀
@HFBeep
@HFBeep Жыл бұрын
Btw by saying this I am not saying the top players are cheaters, just to clarify.
@edoson01
@edoson01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for presenting the story end-2-end so clearly!
@anjangaki
@anjangaki Жыл бұрын
There's an inaccuracy in the beginning of the video. In the FTX crypto cup it's true that Hans didn't score a single point but he also beat every single player in that tournament except Alireza. So, he didn't exactly get thrashed and he's perfectly capable of beating super grandmasters in a game.
@spnhm34
@spnhm34 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how it is we know that no one has cheated in over the board games and got away with it. Head hurts.
@herimusiclass
@herimusiclass 8 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see them play chess boxing against pro boxers. Pro boxers vs GMs
@diosdadoapias
@diosdadoapias Жыл бұрын
It is not how perfect your move is but your tactics or strategy. War in the board could be liken to a war in a battlefield where there may be wrong places for the right unit or wrong unit for the right places but does not affect the total out come of the battle because most of the tactical or strategic moves are in right places hence some blunders may be compensated by a strong move or tactics. In Chess a Tal-like sacrifice could be imprecise but it does the work or purpose still.
@RickBrown1975
@RickBrown1975 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I love these non Chess playing videos , I hope you keep doing more!
@r.griesche3052
@r.griesche3052 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Much more valuable than the usual trash talk blitz recordings.
@ErickRiga01
@ErickRiga01 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info my dear
@faisalghalayini3133
@faisalghalayini3133 Жыл бұрын
1:25 maybe they have how would you know💀
@bryantheawesome
@bryantheawesome Жыл бұрын
If Hans is legit I hope he wins, but if he's not, I hope he loses EVERYTHING.
@LoganNagol
@LoganNagol Жыл бұрын
Ball don’t lie
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Жыл бұрын
No shit. The case is figuring out whether or not he is legit.
@dronel1637
@dronel1637 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was actually a brilliant video. full of relevant information, presented well, some lighthearted jokes that were fitting, to be completely honest, i did not expect this. most recent videos on your channel (i'm just telling my personal view and dont want to offend) lean heavily into the clickbait/look at this girl niche, but this was great. thank you.
@elliottFamily2
@elliottFamily2 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your keeping this PG. Great video.
@musicvideoadmin6960
@musicvideoadmin6960 Жыл бұрын
I love how Andrea just pauses after a sentence and takes a sip of tea.
@alexking2599
@alexking2599 Жыл бұрын
The $100 mil dollar figure is meaningless. You can sue for $1bil, but if you can't prove that your damages were in that range, then you won't get awarded the full amount if you win the lawsuit. The most he can expect to win would be the sum of all tournament winnings that he could've won from any tournaments he has been banned from, possibly revenue from publicity, and maybe income he might be able to claim from hikaru from exploiting and profitting off the defamation. Side note, I would love to watch more journalist videos from andrea, this was great!
@DownfallHitlerParody
@DownfallHitlerParody Жыл бұрын
Tell that to Alex Jones - no way were his conspiracy theories worth $1 billion in damages but a biased judge still ordered him to pay. Not saying that will happen in this particular case but it does happen at times.
@toryspelling7737
@toryspelling7737 Жыл бұрын
I've followed the whole scandal but the commentary here is just great. Very witty and entertaining!
@miv_cleric
@miv_cleric 11 ай бұрын
How can the chess world be literally on fire?
@sirloock8360
@sirloock8360 Жыл бұрын
its distracting me that she won't turn her head towards the camera
@adityathapa3070
@adityathapa3070 13 күн бұрын
It's a planned production move to find the best angle for the face
@aliawada1126
@aliawada1126 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the best summary we got from all chess creators
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 Жыл бұрын
1:00 OMG "The chess world is LITERALLY on fire!" That is far worse than any cheating scandal. These people are on fire, or their boards are at least. Is no one going to put them out???
@mattlambert3118
@mattlambert3118 Жыл бұрын
How would you know if no one has gotten away with cheating at the top level? If they got away with it, you wouldn't know they cheated.
@rkm237
@rkm237 Жыл бұрын
Your 30sec videos are great and entertaining. Your LONGER videos are truly AWESOME, though, so keep them coming. :)
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz Жыл бұрын
This is a good summary from Andrea, you can tell that the script is super careful to not say anything that they could get surf for, but to me, while the mathematical tools that show how insanely improbable so many of these events were and how not only has a boy with little sign of prodigy, after being coached by a known cheat, and cheating online regularly (believed to be around 100+ times) leaps to performing better than any person in history. Many games are at a level exceeding any player in history. Also, strangely, apart from an insane leap in performance during the few years since, unlike any other player at this level, he fails to continue to improve at all. Eg if you stack all players in history that are at that level we're prodigies at a very young age, showed genius and beating masters while under 10, then dedicated decades to gradually improving and even improving after hitting international level. Vs a known cheater, of mdoerate ability, skipping all prize games for 6 months and comes back as the best in the world and never improves since. Also, the post match interview showed an extreme lack of memory for the game just played and numerous statements of plays he considered, and most of those were losing options and he seemed to have zero awareness of this. Also, His gameplay over the board is highly erratic, dropping to his pre "miracle" level and then far exceeding the best players in the world. Also, he stated that he had prepped that particular extremely rare opening the day before in a miracle of luck. This open is so utterly rare, and Magnus has only ever played that open 1 time, when he was 7 years old. Many of his interviews also seem to contain very strange and mismatched / guilty sounding replies. The new accent. The cheating, then lying about it being only 2 games... I have been open to both options and if its a miracle - amazing. But just looking at this from a mathematical probability perspective, on balance I feel comfy that he is cheating. And I base that on the maths of the games. The chess speaks for itself.
@user-hi9jy5wy1m
@user-hi9jy5wy1m 2 ай бұрын
One thing is clear from all of his interviews: Hans is an average player at best and doesn't know much about the game.
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz 2 ай бұрын
@@user-hi9jy5wy1m Agreed. And we have some months of that same person, mathematically, playing better than any human who has ever played, happening after he was known to be cheating, and also after being coached my a famous cheater. I feel comfortable that this points to cheating. If it wasn't cheating, it is statistically as unlikely as his insane change of form.
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