The Biggest Scandals in Destiny History: A Retrospective

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Shadow Destiny 2

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This video covers the most absurd scandals and drama that we've witnessed over the past 10 years in the Destiny community. From the times that streamers got caught cheating to the KZfaqr who got banned and sued for $7.6 million, these events are pretty wild. You may have heard of some of these stories in the past, but this video puts them all together in one place, and provides updates on how the stories have developed over time. I hope you enjoy the video.
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Sections:
0:00 Start
0:28 KZfaqr gets Caught Cheating (Baken)
3:07 Player Banned and Sued $500k for Sending Pizza to Bungie
4:34 XP Throttling Scam Fiasco
7:08 Content Creator Banned After Leaking Bungie Summit
9:43 The Infamous Starter Pack
10:47 Reboots
11:36 Bungie Bans The Speedrunning Community
13:04 People Getting Wrongly Banned (e.g. D2Gunsmith)
14:21 Sunsetting, Weapon Retirement, and its REVERSAL
15:33 Bungie Bans KZfaqr & Sues Him for $7,600,000
19:20 G1
21:25 2017 Woes & Scuffed launch
23:18 Activision Dissatisfied with Forsaken
23:49 Monetization & Microtransaction Drama
24:53 Mass Layoffs
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@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
Subscribe so we can reach 100k on the 2nd channel :) And I recommend watching this next: The UNWRITTEN Rules of Destiny 2: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5aBpbWZ3rO4hac.html
@deepakl9819
@deepakl9819 Ай бұрын
No you weren't
@sekris4768
@sekris4768 Ай бұрын
you really shouldve included the Cruz ban situation
@Sheylan_
@Sheylan_ Ай бұрын
Hey, just a thing nothing to do with this video but it’s a fun fact if you want for a next video. Since the beginning of destiny 2 we can now about the witness. When you spawn a the tower and look at the left of the hangar entrance u can see the traveler with the triangle spray on the wall. So I mean, is the end of the game is already hide somewhere ?🤔
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
that symbol has been around for a long time and has nothing to do with the traveler or the witness (just a coincidence)
@ericx6969
@ericx6969 Ай бұрын
i have not seen insight terminus nightfall or strike in forever lol
@naskosokurov1815
@naskosokurov1815 Ай бұрын
"I used to walk in a store and find a game. Now I open a game and find a store". That still hits REALLY hard, not just for D2. Edit: wow, I wasn't expecting so many likes, thank you guys!
@chefbennyj
@chefbennyj Ай бұрын
Oh! This is priceless! It should be on a t shirt! 😂 Very clever!
@naskosokurov1815
@naskosokurov1815 Ай бұрын
@@chefbennyj That's not me, that's Aztecross in his infamous video which was mentioned
@Arctis326
@Arctis326 Ай бұрын
Boohoo
@cheredonlanz5443
@cheredonlanz5443 Ай бұрын
😂😂soo true
@Exio407
@Exio407 Ай бұрын
You don’t have to thank people for likes
@firedell1031
@firedell1031 Ай бұрын
Not showing up to court when you know you're being sued for $500k is craaazy
@luk4aaaa
@luk4aaaa 29 күн бұрын
Peak mental illness
@cyphi1
@cyphi1 24 күн бұрын
IMO it's the only reasonable thing to do
@Ediicius
@Ediicius 5 күн бұрын
he wasnt beating bungies legal team so... yeah lol
@LuckyJay817
@LuckyJay817 4 күн бұрын
He just gonna file for bankruptcy at the end ​@@Ediicius
@alltimenative
@alltimenative 3 күн бұрын
"yea i aint paying dat"
@LifelessTooth
@LifelessTooth Ай бұрын
The funniest thing about the Ekeugan scandal is that Bungie never outright revealed who the leaker was, and it was EK's own reaction to his ban that confirmed it.
@exxy9931
@exxy9931 Ай бұрын
I mean. It’s not like you couldn’t piece it together if he didn’t reveal himself. His livelihood is as a content creator and playing Destiny constantly to never again after a public announcement sends up red flags. Either way, it would’ve came back to him. The only difference is that he tried to save himself from the ban; considering both sides were “trust me bro,” on it, the stupidity was on full display for both sides. The only thing is if Bungie had multiple years of evidence like they said, why was he banned only then instead of at least being black-listed from returning. At best, negligence on Bungie’s end. At worst, he was a scapegoat or free publicity for upcoming content.
@orangesoda51414
@orangesoda51414 Ай бұрын
@@exxy9931 more than likely they wanted enough evidence to be absolutely certain he couldn't try to claim defamation or some other crazy thing, and prior to the sony acquisition they prob weren't really all that worried about the leaks so they just didn't do anything about it and then sony prob cracked down on them after the poor lightfall performance and continued leaks
@mattf8779
@mattf8779 Ай бұрын
@@exxy9931 Because it takes a long time to try and find a mole. These summits can often involve a large amount of content creators and so trying to find the specific person leaking requires time. You have to look at all the leaks and trace them back to specific summits. Then look at everyone who was invited and see if there is a person who happened to be at all the summits that had info leaked from. The problem is that the same creators get invited back again and again so there were probably a handful of creators that were going to all the summits that had leaks.
@LifelessTooth
@LifelessTooth Ай бұрын
Bungie's main reason for not sharing the evidence with the community was to prevent others from learning how to avoid detection, much like when they talk about how they implement anti-cheat stuff. That's why they never even mentioned the well-known taskbar thing in their official post. Also when they said they had collected evidence going back years, it doesn't mean they found the leaker years ago and just waited to ban them lmao. It means the evidence they found during the investigation was FROM years back.
@JoJoDaFox
@JoJoDaFox Ай бұрын
They had ZERO EVIDENCE, I know for a fact it was not EK that leaked, The reason they did not say his name is because they have no evidence at all which in court would not hold up IF THEY HAD NAMED HIM. I could do the same thing to any of the big content creators and have already proved to more than a few that what they consider evidence is BULLSHIT. This community is so blinded, They bitch about Bungie and then want to give them a reach around... To many pay for services and they are at the mercy of those they hire to do the work on their rigs. " fps gains, setting up obs & and the list goes on" Now what would be the best way to get into someone's rig, offer service that sounds viable knowing there are more sinister things that will happen in the background. This can happen over years and is still happening to creators, and when you have community managers like Hippy and the other trashcan that got fired for their bullshit DRAMA crap pushing narratives to the community with nothing but a word for evidence. Which than trash-talked the same company they worked for "Bungie" saying how bad it was why would you even believe them. The fact is Bungie went out of their way to make a patsy out of EK wouldn't name him cause they knew that would go to court and they would lose. I have sent multiple emails and reached out to countless on the matter explaining and actually showing them how this could happen without the owner knowing. Over a 3-year period EK's PC was remote into 38 different times, He hired someone to give his PC more FPS. The person who installed Teamviewer "remote software " enabled it at startup, Hid it from task bar, and set a password for themselves. Every time EK booted this person had access to his desktop, with that sort of access the sky is the limit. Let me just say after reaching out more than a few Creators have reset their whole setups. EK offered for Bungie to take his PC and cell phone along with anything else they wanted, yet you didn't hear shit about that. A you were hearing was what the multiple community managers were saying " directed by Bungie" The same people that the community shit on multiple time for other reasons somehow become the light of truth ?????? WTF is that about.... Don't be so Blind this goes for everyone playing the game. >I< ZERO GAP
@Emeowy
@Emeowy Ай бұрын
I was expecting the Baken incident lmao
@johnpaulcross424
@johnpaulcross424 Ай бұрын
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
@ilysaud
@ilysaud Ай бұрын
@@johnpaulcross424 word
@progenitor_amborella
@progenitor_amborella Ай бұрын
This was the first one I expected lmao
@whitehuayra
@whitehuayra Ай бұрын
Baken was the first one mentioned in the video 😅
@phelan8385
@phelan8385 Ай бұрын
That's crazy, I watched him a long time ago, stopped playing for a long time and this is my first time hearing of any of this.
@majora919
@majora919 Ай бұрын
Baken still plays the game to this day under the name "Emperor of Japan" somehow he hasn't been banned in over a year
@gmanking19
@gmanking19 Ай бұрын
@@krookedkrewCheaters a cheater. Get them out the game
@MrTavrosNitram
@MrTavrosNitram Ай бұрын
@@krookedkrew cheater glazer
@kfossa344
@kfossa344 Ай бұрын
@@krookedkrew Snitch lmao. Fuck all the cheaters. Every. Single. One of them.
@Official_Golden
@Official_Golden Ай бұрын
@@krookedkrew Nah cheater is a cheater, get that goof outta here
@cell9899
@cell9899 Ай бұрын
Is he any good without cheating??
@EdibleClown
@EdibleClown Ай бұрын
I remember the fraudulent copyright claims also hit Byf's MASSIVE EFFORT Dynasty video. I felt so bad for him because of how much time he spent on that video.
@mggaming968
@mggaming968 Ай бұрын
It hit my favourite music channel, Promethean, Archival Mind, who lost more or less 90% of his audio database because of it. A ton of that music was in removed parts of the game and he didn't have the original files archived, so it was just gone.
@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698
@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 Ай бұрын
​@@mggaming968 Yeah 😢, one of my favorite IO variant songs is now gone forever because of the whole false suing
@dominikdoom
@dominikdoom Ай бұрын
@@annoyingnessbeginswithme5698 Two other channels called "Last City Radio" and "Destiny Music Archive" have (re)uploaded a lot of it after the issue was resolved, might be worth taking a look. Especially LCR has most vaulted songs.
@fomori2
@fomori2 Ай бұрын
Considering false DMCA claims are criminal PERJURY, I am surprised no criminal action has been taken. It could be the perpetrator is not a US citizen, but I would hope they were still charged with the crimes.
@EdibleRockingChair
@EdibleRockingChair Ай бұрын
I like your name
@ArchivalMind
@ArchivalMind Ай бұрын
Hi, personally impacted person by the Nazo incident here. While I definitely don't speak for everyone, the biggest hit taken for me was the betrayal. This man straight-up made a Discord group, invited all the Destiny music archivists in it, and pretended to not know what was happening. It was all a big mistake on his end, one born from one of CSC's legitimate ban waves the month prior, and I understand that frustration, but the lies and deception towards US, his supposed friends, made an already bad situation a dozen times worse. To put it bluntly, shit sucked.
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
Sorry you were impacted, that whole situation was just awful.
@JabeRaddle
@JabeRaddle Ай бұрын
The pizza thing is way worse than you make it out. It was a way of showing the community manager that he knew where he lived and therefore could send other more dangerous things or SWAT or doxx him.
@metpach
@metpach Ай бұрын
You left out the part where DMG continually would gaslight this individual. And even "bet" that he had no idea where he was located.
@digizilla164
@digizilla164 Ай бұрын
​@@metpach yeah no and yoy dont know what gaslighting is.
@metpach
@metpach Ай бұрын
@@digizilla164 DMG would consistently go on Reddit and consistently put ppl down for having different opinions. Not only that, but would block ppl on Twitter for asking about crucible maps. DMG would consistently poke at disgruntled players, and then when they clapped back, he would play the victim. He ended up costing Bungie money, so they didn't renew his contract. Eventually they fired all the other cms. Why? Because of DMG. They don't need CMs and they definitely don't need him.
@jesseritchie9282
@jesseritchie9282 Ай бұрын
​@@metpach Absolutely correct
@isellfreemoney9899
@isellfreemoney9899 Ай бұрын
@@metpachso you think he deserved getting doxxed and harassed?
@BinNurEmma
@BinNurEmma Ай бұрын
A friend of mine got banned because he unknowingly played with a cheater. He found someone through a lfg discord to play trials with when it first came out in destiny 2. The person was playing really, really good and he even got suspicious one time, but they promised him that it was 100% legit... Yeah, he got banned a few days later.
@Rimuru-nt1cu
@Rimuru-nt1cu 12 күн бұрын
Was it a permaban or a temporary ban?
@BinNurEmma
@BinNurEmma 12 күн бұрын
@@Rimuru-nt1cu perma ban
@vanessacannon393
@vanessacannon393 8 күн бұрын
@@BinNurEmma Yeah, that rule can backfire.
@SynthwaveCrusader
@SynthwaveCrusader Ай бұрын
The most amusing thing about Baken is that if he hadn't ego challenged dmg and just quietly made a new account he could have probably flown under the radar and kept things rolling with his channel.
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын
That’s the thing with cheaters, they think they can mess around irl like in the game but then get hit with a reality check
@Official_Golden
@Official_Golden Ай бұрын
Thats the problem with cheaters, they have a big ego and end up just digging their own hole lmao
@myuutosan
@myuutosan Ай бұрын
That's the thing with cheaters, they suck BBC
@troudbalos333
@troudbalos333 27 күн бұрын
Well if dmg didnt also have an ego, the situation would have been dealt in dms and baken would have silently disapeared until he made a new account that is. Instead we have the situation becoming mainstream and an other reason to hate dmg.
@callmeriggy
@callmeriggy 25 күн бұрын
@@troudbalos333 tbh, the clap back from DMG was 100% warranted. he gave the customer service response the first time, and the cheater pushed it. Baken deserved to get clowned.
@mlgrocket
@mlgrocket Ай бұрын
biggest drama for me? removing content you paid for under the pretense "sorry, file size too big", they could have made it all optional downloads, but nope, they decided it had to be completely deleted from the game. we're apparently sueing ubisoft for shutting down a dead game, but we do nothing to bungie when they do the same thing to a very much alive game? it doesn't make sense.
@theonlyLoneWolf_
@theonlyLoneWolf_ Ай бұрын
Completely agree but it's apples to oranges. Even in places with incredibly strong consumer protection laws, it generally boils down to "Is game still playable?" If yes, nothing can be done. If no, you've got a long uphill fight to get restitution as no clear legislation leaves a lot of legal grey area that needs to be traversed to reach a positive outcome for gamers. Also, outcomes heavily depend on a corporations own country's consumer protection laws. Bungie being based in the US means they basically have a free ride to do whatever as US consumer protection laws aren't great. They can just tweak regional specific things where necessary to avoid breaking laws in other countries. Ubisoft being based in France/EU though is literally the golden goose egg of opportunities as EU has some of the strongest consumer protection laws around.
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын
Yep. It's literal theft and made Bungie one of the biggest evils in all of gaming.
@equakecs8119
@equakecs8119 Ай бұрын
Funny thing is there are larger games, bungie just doesn't want to pay the PS and xbox fees for large updates and installs. The larger the updates the more they have to pay sony and Microsoft. I still think it's bullshit we lost old content with no discounts or free dlc. Bungie should be sued by the player base to make the new dlc free
@brandaohimself
@brandaohimself 24 күн бұрын
EULA
@mlgrocket
@mlgrocket 24 күн бұрын
@@brandaohimself so that ubisoft lawsuit will go nowhere then
@StewardRuss
@StewardRuss Ай бұрын
One thing that really pissed me off is the dungeon keys, why do I have to buy a season pass and then as well a dungeon key?
@scp_049_the_soul_doctor
@scp_049_the_soul_doctor Ай бұрын
For real.. cant they include it in a dlc pre order for a future dlc and make the old dungeon keys free to everyone and also make the current dungeon key be unlockable by owning the season pass? Bungie is so greedy for this
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын
Because Bungie is the most anti-consumer company in all of gaming. They just want your money, and sadly so many of you will mindlessly give it to them after they've stolen half of your game.
@vortex_1911
@vortex_1911 Ай бұрын
It’s the one huge thing I still despise because it didn’t use to be that way. At least Into The Light is amazing.
@designerpsycho9640
@designerpsycho9640 29 күн бұрын
My sibling and I used to split our deluxe purchases for dlcs and pay on one account until seasons and dungeons weren't available for both of us anymore. Edit our reason was it's a game we both played and we'd split the cost on on games we both wanted to play on our Playstations
@ime4rth434
@ime4rth434 19 күн бұрын
And when i bought the game i owned it, but now i have to pay 20 bucks for each dungeon i already owned? Ridiculous..
@itsreapernecrosis2215
@itsreapernecrosis2215 Ай бұрын
Always surprised that no one ever talks about the Saltegreppo's world's first raid team has had two of its members banned for cheats. Surprised the rest of the teams worlds firsts haven't come into question at this point.
@martinprovo2389
@martinprovo2389 Ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know about the first one. Between that and being behind in one of the raids, not even top 5 at that point but magically coming from behind and winning by a few minutes in combination with viewers watching other streamers and then telling them mechanics they were stuck on, I really don't get the clout or revere they're given by so many in tbe community. Not to mention the constant complaining just because they find it boring despite playing it probably 60% more than normal people.
@MrAhds
@MrAhds Ай бұрын
1 ban was for for recovs and the other was for running a software that cant really do anything to D2 but is used for other games. First one was deserved but not cheating and 2nd was probably deserved aswell because it is technically against TOS but a lifetime ban for that is insane. Bungie also wouldnt send the belts if the world first had any reason to believe its cheated so the world firsts were obtained legit
@MrPatpuc
@MrPatpuc Ай бұрын
false information.
@syd6654
@syd6654 Ай бұрын
Womp Womp don’t have cheats open when you launch an online game
@itsreapernecrosis2215
@itsreapernecrosis2215 Ай бұрын
@MrAhds Yah every cheater always denies or plays it off like it was something else or they weren't cheating, until bungie lights their ass up. I know he got banned for using cheats for "another game" and having the software open. But like you said, perma ban seems alittle extreme for that if that's the case. You figured he'd fight them for just a temporary one or atleast being able to play a different account. But he didn't put up a fight at all. Personally I think he knew bungie would light his ass up with some other stuff they didn't announce cuz they were trying to keep it civil. 1 time it's a fluke. Twice is quite the coincidence. I've watched alot of stuff about cheaters and how they cheat. And this stuff reeks of it.
@Shihai-sha
@Shihai-sha Ай бұрын
Dont forget the infamous 7/29/2020 "Gahlran Cosplay" Incident (In all seriousness, epic video, brought back quite a few memories.)
@thunderchief7256
@thunderchief7256 Ай бұрын
Tell me more
@Shihai-sha
@Shihai-sha Ай бұрын
@@thunderchief7256 A man, a plan, a cosplay, DCJ. Don't look it up or you'll see something you don't want to.
@kefnettheuseless7627
@kefnettheuseless7627 Ай бұрын
That incident was wild. A national holiday for DCJ lol
@RiptidePhoenix
@RiptidePhoenix Ай бұрын
gahlr
@hue_lord_4208
@hue_lord_4208 Ай бұрын
@@thunderchief7256 "DCJ" refers to the reddit sub r/destinycirclejerk and the famous "ghalran cosplay" was when a person took an image of their penis with an image of ghalran's face on their tip and posted it to the sub. The sub had to make some serious revisions to their rules after that, lmao. As a bonus, since you had to wait 6 days for an actual answer, in the sub r/destinyfashion somebody posted a shaxx cosplay of them fully nude on the toilet with nothing but a shaxx helmet on. I was actually there for that one and it was wild, lmao.
@siphonedshisui5667
@siphonedshisui5667 Ай бұрын
you didn't mention one of the worst scandal Bungie ever did to the players: The Destiny Content Vault, where Bungie made Destiny 2 "free" and deleted at least 1/3 of content for the players to never see again, despite having paid money for such content.
@nonsenseconfidence1850
@nonsenseconfidence1850 Ай бұрын
exactly, I quit that game when bungie cowards stole my paid content, losers thieves, should be suied
@phelan8385
@phelan8385 Ай бұрын
And then added the steaming pile of sh!t titled Beyond Light
@aaronball4700
@aaronball4700 Ай бұрын
@@phelan8385The only reason to get beyond light was so you wouldn’t be gimped not having stasis in pvp, nowadays stasis seems ass.
@phelan8385
@phelan8385 Ай бұрын
@@aaronball4700 well you needed it to have any up to date content. They removed so much and added so little it was pretty much essential
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын
That's what I expected when clicking on this video. All of Bungie's controversies as the worst developer in gaming.
@annamuller9457
@annamuller9457 Ай бұрын
Thank you again dear shadow for your awesome content, i'm always excited when i see that a new vid of you is out, every single one is a masterpiece❤
@thebapslaps
@thebapslaps Ай бұрын
Fun Fact about the speedrunners being banned: there are quite a few speedrunners that actively promote cheats and or use them.
@TheShahkulu
@TheShahkulu Ай бұрын
Currently, the overwhelming majority of top 100 on speedrun leaderboards are net limiters.
@Shoegaze-
@Shoegaze- Ай бұрын
@@TheShahkuluwhich isn’t even remotely a bad thing if I’m being honest it just leads to more optimization, doesn’t take any skill out of the game, and is completely harmless. Best example I can think of is limiting motes in garden which makes it a bit easier and saves time which really adds up when you’re doing it dozens of times. I know people will probably disagree though because speenrunner bad! And cheating is cheating! Ringing on the other hand is horrible for the game and should lead to bans.
@Shoegaze-
@Shoegaze- Ай бұрын
comparing limiting in pve to aimbot and wallhacks in pvp😭😭. “Cheats”
@xartherthefaerian1519
@xartherthefaerian1519 Ай бұрын
Speedrunning is not bad by any means, but glitch hunting is a thing, while abusing third party software is on a whole different plane of existence
@FortisT-T
@FortisT-T Ай бұрын
Man you put so much effort into your videos thx. I love your content
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
thanks!
@agoldenmuffin1944
@agoldenmuffin1944 Ай бұрын
Very entertaining video, bringing back a lot of memories from the past. I would’ve loved to hear again about BombSquadKitten’s case. I remember wanting to join their clan, but then hearing they split up, to then hear further about all the SA on women they did
@pixelomega3042
@pixelomega3042 Ай бұрын
I know that it’s not the biggest deal here, but Salvatori being gone is a loss I think we’re gonna feel greatly with whatever come after TFS
@S3Cs4uN8
@S3Cs4uN8 Ай бұрын
I'm honestly not sure it's going to be that huge of a deal as he wasn't the only person on Bungie's music team, just the biggest name of the bunch, and many of them have been around for ages at this point.
@rebcommando587
@rebcommando587 Ай бұрын
Destiny 2 has that music I leave on mute
@pixelomega3042
@pixelomega3042 Ай бұрын
@@rebcommando587 then you’re missing out on a large part of the experience
@pixelomega3042
@pixelomega3042 Ай бұрын
@@S3Cs4uN8 I hope you’re right, but also he was the one that put pen to paper for most if not all of the major themes that we’ve seen across the game
@djnone8137
@djnone8137 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure tfs is the last hurrah. Him being let go is an ode that all recordings have been finalized
@TheBlackOpsHawk
@TheBlackOpsHawk Ай бұрын
The XP throttling made me quit the game from Curse of Osiris until Forsaken.
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 Ай бұрын
I sincerely hope that you quit after Beyond Light. Or at least after Lightfall.
@kkangpae346
@kkangpae346 Ай бұрын
the sunsetting gimmick reallly had me questioning. shortly after i didnt bother logging back in. didnt vault clean, glad i didnt, but still no real reason to come back as of yet..
@Art2D2
@Art2D2 8 күн бұрын
They recently reversed Sunsetting and said they'll never do that again. So I'm back and playing with my favorite hard earned items. But it's really up to the person if they want to come back. I'm just here to finish the story I started years ago. Here to experience The Final Shape expansion, and then afterwards idk.
@idlovetohaveabeerwith4354
@idlovetohaveabeerwith4354 5 күн бұрын
Great video! So much drama!
@mmoVSmmo
@mmoVSmmo Ай бұрын
Expecting the "Say No to Rage" story in this vid. But it had nuggets of info I completely forgot.
@delguin5447
@delguin5447 Ай бұрын
Sadly, it just seems to be completely ignored most of the time.
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын
It’s because nobody gives a shit about him. His content was mid and even if he’s was somehow innocent, nobody wants to talk about him because his whipped simping fanbase will hunt you down for not defending him
@delguin5447
@delguin5447 Ай бұрын
@@JPOG7TV You must be fun at parties.
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq Ай бұрын
@@JPOG7TV bro are you OK? That man was probably one of the few that gave actual in-depth updates on the game and he was innocent It was proven all over Twitter I don’t like the guy has an ego problem but you shouldn’t go this hard for Destiny lmfao nobody really cares if you succeed or fail in this game
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq Ай бұрын
@@delguin5447 because it’s old drama most of the people involved don’t even play the game anymore
@Zamperlikecheese
@Zamperlikecheese Ай бұрын
What's really funny about the destiny starter pack is that if they had just put it in the eververse with just the sparrow ship and ghost for 1500 silver no one would of batted an eye
@daxitron
@daxitron Ай бұрын
The title could also be "Things that remind me WHY I quit Destiny, and why I don't regret it"
@eliasmarx92
@eliasmarx92 Ай бұрын
It was pritty interesting. Thx for the Video
@superblahman
@superblahman Ай бұрын
Speaking of Pay to win... remember when Chaperone had an ornament that extended the barrel and actually effected the range of the shotgun, giving it even more range?
@thealldayspecial
@thealldayspecial Ай бұрын
Panama Ravine, wasn't silver only and I think you could even get it from the Prismatic Matrix when that was still a thing, but yeah a rarer scenario where the ornament actually made a huge difference.
@asphyxxia
@asphyxxia Ай бұрын
That ornament was "fixed" 2 times already, last I checked it after most recent fix, it still increases range lol
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 20 күн бұрын
This happens a lot with many ornaments, especially those that change the weapon model drastically. Not only can you get a "less bulky" skin for your exotic, or one with cleaner sights, but you can also end up with one that extends/shrinks the barrel and impacts its effective range because the game calculates damage falloff from the end of the barrel instead of from a fixed point. Bungie cares more about cranking out these skins than they do maintaining balance. There's no way these were intentionally P2W. Bungie doesn't plan that far ahead.
@coltsfan354
@coltsfan354 Ай бұрын
It's always wild to me when I see people at any point in the last few years say that the game is in a worse state than vanilla D2. People forget how incredibly bad the game was. Snipers and shottys in the heavy slot, 6 total subclass options with no customization whatsoever, fixed rolls on every gun, effectively no endgame, NO SPARROW FOR THE FIRST 15 HOURS OF THE GAME! I wouldn't be surprised if we get Destiny 3 in the next two years, but never forget how big of a miracle it is that the series managed to pull out of that big of a rut.
@willard73
@willard73 Ай бұрын
You forgot the Say No To Rage / Lonnie scandal it was juicy.
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq Ай бұрын
That wasn’t juicy, bro that was a female lying and trying to destroy a man’s career
@S1ick865
@S1ick865 Ай бұрын
it wasnt tho, it was a group of ppl who thought they were this super powerful person attacking a guy bc they was mad at him for being "weird" he did nothing to her at all, and you see anyone other then goth still streaming? nope goth was set before this he was always gonna be ok, but they took food out of that mans families mouths and ruinied his carrer i wasnt a fan of saynotorage but he built chjannel on his own and was doing welll and they didnt like that
@JohnJohn-bz1lq
@JohnJohn-bz1lq Ай бұрын
lol comment was deleted
@S1ick865
@S1ick865 Ай бұрын
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq I didnt see it
@lubbyLB
@lubbyLB Ай бұрын
@@S1ick865 friend of yours? lol
@spencerhuckins8197
@spencerhuckins8197 Ай бұрын
I have played destiny since the very first open beta for destiny 1 way back in 2014. I took a break between year one of D2 and Forsaken, but I did come back when Forsaken was anounced, and I caught up before it released. Destiny has been an absolute rollercoaster. Its wild to go back over all the BS and crazy stuff that has happened over the last decade because I remember all this stuff. I kept up with all of it the entire time. The only in game event that I missed was the spring one where arbalest was introduced. I played through every season, every pvp meta, every raid, almost every controversy. It has been an absolutely wild journey with so many ups and downs, but ultimatwly it has been a source of joy in my life. I treat it like an rpg now. I really like to immerse myself in the world, play my build like I really would if I was actually a guardian myself. There have always been ups and downs. The lows are LOW, but the highs are like nothing else in videogame history. The worst thing about it for me right now is the community itself honestly. Even after all the crap that happens behind the scenes and all the scandals and stuff, I find that the general player-base might be what really gets me to quit for good, if I ever do. I just have a hard time finding decent players who are generally more positive to interact with than negative. At the end of the day, I just want to rollplay a space wizard who slays alien gods with space magic and future weapons, and I dont want to get yelled at, or have slurs hurled at me, or have someone tell me to adjust my build, or adjust my fashion. I just wanna chill out and do raids and have a fun time. Why is that so hard nowadays in destiny?
@eldeliciosomagnifico6503
@eldeliciosomagnifico6503 Ай бұрын
Couldn’t help but notice the situation where Bungie was under fire for treating their female employees like shit wasn’t brought up.
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын
Yeah he left out the IGN story of the horrible allegations of Bungie mistreating employees
@GhostRydr1172
@GhostRydr1172 Ай бұрын
And then there's the recent layoffs. Economy and Sony reqs be damned, you have to be cesspool dwelling scum to layoff some of the vets that were removed that day, such as Michael Salvatori.
@chaskcryaotic1037
@chaskcryaotic1037 Ай бұрын
From what ive gathered is the creator of this video is a bungie boot licker and white knights bungie as he sticks by their side on banning people who have been banned without actual proof and was banned on a guess or just because bungie felt to lazy to look into it more
@yellowcard8100
@yellowcard8100 Ай бұрын
then why not you make a video about it?
@eldeliciosomagnifico6503
@eldeliciosomagnifico6503 Ай бұрын
@@yellowcard8100 Brother, the title literally says “Biggest Scandals in Destiny history” and didn’t include arguably Bungie’s biggest scandal. It’s called pointing something out. I don’t need to make a video about it.
@TheInfii
@TheInfii Ай бұрын
16:50 thought you had a healing nade huh? Happens to me all the damn time! 😂
@weirdeurasianboy8091
@weirdeurasianboy8091 Ай бұрын
😠😠😠
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Ай бұрын
Lord Nazo seemed like the kind of guy who wanted to watch the world burn.
@lubbyLB
@lubbyLB Ай бұрын
Let's not feed his ego by making him seem like some anti-hero badass
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Ай бұрын
@@lubbyLB the line referring to what Alfred said in The Dark Knight didn’t mean people like that were cool anti-heroes. They are just evil pieces of shit at their core. Nazo fits that description.
@Palayedeuhm
@Palayedeuhm Ай бұрын
Thanks for the story time shadow
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@torvasdh
@torvasdh Ай бұрын
3:44 I know what happened is bad but that onocking part is hilarious lmao
@carlstephens4
@carlstephens4 Ай бұрын
Wow I totally forgot about the xp throttle . And then the doubling
@joshuapatrick4887
@joshuapatrick4887 Ай бұрын
I know another small controversy that happened was for the World's First clear of Prestige Leviathan. Redeem cleared it(As was the style at the time), but one of the members used the old Wardcliff Coil barricade glitch to essentially get infinite ammo, which lead to controversy. I think Bungie solved the issue by listing out all of the streams that cleared the raid closest to World's First and told players to make their own conclusion on who the winner was.
@SavvyMon4
@SavvyMon4 Ай бұрын
If the bug was known that’s on Bungie to either disable the weapon or flat out state if using a glitch such as that would discredit a run
@joshuapatrick4887
@joshuapatrick4887 Ай бұрын
@@SavvyMon4 As far as I recall, they didn't have the ability to disable exotics on the fly back then like they do now.
@Exhalted1
@Exhalted1 Ай бұрын
Baken slamming the desk thinking the incident was forgotten
@OutlawOrbit
@OutlawOrbit 29 күн бұрын
The Baken Incident will forever be one of the funniest I've had the pleasure of being there for.
@johnprice6271
@johnprice6271 Ай бұрын
The lawsuit one was warranted. They more or less attacked both other KZfaqrs and Bungie themselves all out of pettiness, and set the entire community into a hellfire.
@doktorsmiles2034
@doktorsmiles2034 Ай бұрын
Imagine your doing something wrong, get rightfully punished and then try to ruin lifes of people who didnt do anything to you... But the money hes now owing should be in part payed to the creators who got messed with I dont know if they get any money, but it wouldnt only be fair. This dude is probably the biggest catsynonyme the community ever had. Cheaters are little kiddos with no balls, sure. But they do not try to come after your job and ruin your life. This dude crossed a line
@djrosette
@djrosette 16 күн бұрын
Who was the guy cause I never heard of the person and why did the guy go after the Destiny community or other KZfaqrs 🤔
@ShadowStorm8855
@ShadowStorm8855 Ай бұрын
While the starter pack was rightfully removed, I lowkey wished that bungie would put the sparrow and ship in the eververse store. F1 sparrow is cool as heck as an F1 fan myself
@rebcommando587
@rebcommando587 Ай бұрын
Hoverboard is the only thing you're gonna want
@ShadowStorm8855
@ShadowStorm8855 Ай бұрын
​@rebcommando587 After bungie fixed the infinite boost bug, the hoverboard kinda lost its flair for me.🤷🏻‍♂️ Unless they make an F1 themed overboard
@scrotumscratcher2474
@scrotumscratcher2474 Ай бұрын
@@ShadowStorm8855bro you deadass can skip entire mechanics with the thing In GMs. That alone is worth it. Why do the race track in hyper net when you can just look to the right and hover over the gap
@weirdeurasianboy8091
@weirdeurasianboy8091 Ай бұрын
😠😠😠
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 20 күн бұрын
@@rebcommando587 The forced cooldown that prevents you from jumping off (not to mention the fact you'll die while riding one if you fall far enough to take damage, unlike on a Sparrow) is what stops me from using it. Well, that and because it goes with zero of my transmogs.
@ShinigamiNoZycon
@ShinigamiNoZycon Ай бұрын
I can’t wait to get my hands back on a subtle calamity
@carsenvillegas7259
@carsenvillegas7259 Ай бұрын
Great video
@bennygerow
@bennygerow Ай бұрын
If Lono being witch hunted and banned isn't on here it's not telling a massive scandal Bungie can't fully sweep under the rug. 12:36 the worst part of this was Bungie stated that they would not sunset guns and reissue them, which they immediately did. They also never acknowledged that sunsetting guns versus armor made no sense at all. There was no reason to ever sunset armor since newer armor would just objectively be better IF players grinded for new god rolls.
@ExpressoPie
@ExpressoPie Ай бұрын
Who’s lono?
@bennygerow
@bennygerow Ай бұрын
@@ExpressoPie he now goes by @reforgegaming and if you look back a couple years, he's got multiple vids of him going through the scandal. At first he was confused, then he felt terrible because he didn't know that he hurt people, then he started to see that it was all a coordinated effort to take him down. And yes, he showed the proof in great detail. And guess what the response was? Crickets. They already got what they wanted so suddenly nobody had an issue with him. Funny how that works when you're the top Destiny PVE streamer one day, and all of a sudden your accusers are all in the top ten for a while. Mind you, their stories not only changed, which he goes over, but nobody stood up for him and called it out. Everybody was against him because "believe all women".
@bennygerow
@bennygerow Ай бұрын
@@ExpressoPie @reforgegamimg
@Ahnock
@Ahnock Ай бұрын
armor sunsetting happened because of armor mods like charged with light and warmind cells, and they even stated later when deleting warmind cells from the game that the whole reason they made those systems was because they were only ever planned to be temporary, and thus would not be a constant factor in game balance. i dont agree with it, but thats the reason they sunset armor. we didnt used to have universal armor mods, you could slot seasonal mods in on armor from one season before and after and that was it.
@bennygerow
@bennygerow Ай бұрын
@@Ahnock no, I know that, but it's just not true that they had to sunset armor when they have the ability to deprecate items like the old mods (which I still have on the right page of my inventory).
@MstrJediKyle
@MstrJediKyle Ай бұрын
D2 vanilla launch was rough. It was so bad, I uninstalled and didn't come back until Shadowkeep.
@davidzrescalante503
@davidzrescalante503 Ай бұрын
I didn't come back until crota was re-released. 9/10/2023
@DustiestBoar734
@DustiestBoar734 Ай бұрын
not the best time to come back lol
@phelan8385
@phelan8385 Ай бұрын
​@@DustiestBoar734I played throughout Curse of Osiris and Warmind and it was not fun 😎
@cgpxae2119
@cgpxae2119 28 күн бұрын
Shadowkeep? Rough return
@itachi4alltime
@itachi4alltime Ай бұрын
You forgot the the whole DoS attacks after the crafting apocalypse that made the game unplayable for weeks
@keskeyy
@keskeyy 18 күн бұрын
'Done and dusted, out of this world' is a reference to foodiechina and their very unique outro
@akuma_saint
@akuma_saint Ай бұрын
That second one is the one I will bring up whenever Bungie clams up. I get it, people get mad or don't agree with what they do with this game - people have the right to disagree and voice that disagreement but not like that. Never like that.
@MaestroEspada
@MaestroEspada Ай бұрын
To this day still believe 100% the Eukegan controversy was true. The timing of his videos talking about leaks and getting most if not everything right, adds up with the fact as soon got outed by Bungie all of those videos vanished suddenly after it. Had to be more than just coincidence
@spacecowboy421
@spacecowboy421 22 күн бұрын
Casually left out of the video was the picture of the release timeline for Destiny 2 from a summit and it was taken from where he was sitting.
@goattrees227
@goattrees227 5 күн бұрын
We've power crept so much that any weapon that was unsunset will never be good again
@seanmcclure
@seanmcclure Ай бұрын
The entire sunset debacle was frustrating.
@gen8901
@gen8901 Ай бұрын
Cya in a month ShadowDestiny2🫡
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
I've posted 3x this month! :D
@meshman4236
@meshman4236 Ай бұрын
​@@ShadowDestiny2 interesting.....anyway see you next month
@ShadowDestiny2
@ShadowDestiny2 Ай бұрын
I will post again this month
@gen8901
@gen8901 Ай бұрын
@@ShadowDestiny2My bad I thought I was watching your main channel for the previous uploads haha. Cya a week or two then😂
@twistedgale
@twistedgale Ай бұрын
@@ShadowDestiny2no you won’t
@koriuk5032
@koriuk5032 25 күн бұрын
bungie having no way to contact youtube... poetic justice
@ProtoMario
@ProtoMario Ай бұрын
Baken was destroyed so hard he was deleted from the universe.
@SlyRocko
@SlyRocko Ай бұрын
I sometimes wish that Bungie would be as open as the Warframe devs, but then I'm reminded of the pizza incident.
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын
You can’t be open these days as a game dev. Fans and communities are the most hostile they have ever been for gaming.
@Asgaardiangatekeeper
@Asgaardiangatekeeper Ай бұрын
​@@JPOG7TVGaming companies have also been the most blatantly underhanded and anti consumer than they have ever been though. Bungie isn't squeaky clean by any stretch of imagination.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 20 күн бұрын
@@JPOG7TV When you start catering to the mainstream, lowest common denominator while spitting on everyone along the way, that's what happens.
@primodragoneitaliano
@primodragoneitaliano 3 сағат бұрын
Unfortunatrl IIRC Rebb also got a stalking incidebt so alas even DE got hit by that. They still remain vastly more open than the overwhelming majority of studios around though, that's for sure.
@James26285
@James26285 5 күн бұрын
Omg I completely forgot about the Bright Engram scam!
@Doofunator
@Doofunator 10 күн бұрын
What shaders are you running at 13:01?! Would love to know. Thanks!
@AppleGuy256
@AppleGuy256 Ай бұрын
Wait what, I was falsely banned and had to wait a month before getting unbanned. Where's my $45 of silver?
@WeaponsComplex
@WeaponsComplex Ай бұрын
Was it a constant weasel error code? Did it say BAN or RESTRICTED?
@AppleGuy256
@AppleGuy256 Ай бұрын
@@WeaponsComplex It was a total permanent ban (Not So Fast!), Bungie got back a month later and said "your account had been inadvertently flagged as having tampered with the game client" whatever that means. No error codes or warnings I was just chilling in the tower then bam
@WeaponsComplex
@WeaponsComplex Ай бұрын
@@AppleGuy256 yeah that tends to happen to PC tagalongs and programs/cheats they don't close from other games. "If an application designed to read and modify the memory of other applications at runtime was detected targeting the Destiny 2 game client directly. This is, at minimum, a violation of Bungie's policies against runtime analysis. It is the responsibility of each player to understand what software is running on their device and how it interacts with other applications."
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 20 күн бұрын
@@AppleGuy256 You know exactly why you weren't compensated. You have to be a content creator or do Bungie's work for free to get any kind of positive interaction out of them.
@torfaro9075
@torfaro9075 Ай бұрын
it makes me sad about the microtransactions. especially the expansions. i got into Destiny 2 last weekend and absolutely loved it. until i hit the soft cap. i was about to buy an expansion and saw how expensive it was, then sadly uninstalled the game
@jaytheman6436
@jaytheman6436 Ай бұрын
Did you get the chest from Shaxx?
@torfaro9075
@torfaro9075 Ай бұрын
​@jaytheman6436 yeah I did, I got a whole bunch of power level 1810 gear
@yamiangelous
@yamiangelous Ай бұрын
So your at the power cap being at 1810. Now here's the thing about the 'microtransactions' that people complain about. 1. You can usually find great deals on like humble bundle or sales that make it alot cheaper to get the expansions. 2. Alot of people blow the microtransactions for cosmetics out of proportions. The game is ftp once you buy it bam! You have it no sub fee no nothing....so how do they keep people employed? Not like there's a couple thousand players paying 15 bucks a month to play...all the money to keep the lights on and people paid is thru the store.
@smallss7197
@smallss7197 Ай бұрын
I will say, the dlc are expensive but they all are like 5-10 hours of story content each. The cosmetics do cost money but you can either get lucky with bright engrams or wait for when they sale for bright dust. There is also still a bit of content for ftp players.
@WanderingRogue1
@WanderingRogue1 Ай бұрын
​@yamiangelous And that's just story. I got 1200 hours in the game and only played casually during forsaken and started for real mid witch queen, aka did not play before Forsaken.
@anotherkenlon
@anotherkenlon Ай бұрын
DMG annihilating Baken is still one of the funniest things.
@kalem6298
@kalem6298 3 күн бұрын
I remember getting my prosecutor, revoked, recluse, and grinding for them all. And then it got sunset I think the next season, and then I came back a year or two later and it turns out it’s back and I had trouble trying to get them back. It was really disheartening when I’ve played for the last 10 years with only a real break from between 2020- to late 2022.
@Sheikah_Architect
@Sheikah_Architect Ай бұрын
I'm not surprised Bungie wrongly banned people here. Back when they made Halo Reach, they had safe zones in Firefight that players could use to hide from enemies, then they later reset the ranks of people suspected of using the zones they put in the game. Very weird type of ego trip there. Seems they still haven't changed
@doktorsmiles2034
@doktorsmiles2034 Ай бұрын
Activision thought forsaken didnt meet expectations while it literally changed everything and made everything great Lightfall sold 1m+ copies and was 45% below expectation The people in charge need to get their crap together and reign in their expectations ffs. Greed kills everything. From friendships to love, our hobbys, the games we love and in the end hunanity in its entirity...
@grippygecko6843
@grippygecko6843 Ай бұрын
Yeah. They overinflated their projections to benefit the share price.
@sindeviltrigger9268
@sindeviltrigger9268 Ай бұрын
That SBI stench is what's ruining Destiny
@DisDatK9
@DisDatK9 Ай бұрын
So, in the corporate leadership sphere they WANT to massively overproject success and strong returns. They will make their analysis staff use bloated data to put on a front that this release will be incredibly successful in order to drive up share prices and get investors and shareholders excited. They use this time to offload some shares and pocket a strong return. Its a Win-Win situation for them. Either the product fails and they make cuts on the ground floor where it doesn't affect their bottom line OR it's a strong success and they get praise and a good bonus at the end of the FY. Either way, they make a good amount of cash up front, with no downsides and only the potential to make more money. That's corporate leadership right there, and why they will never make conservative sales estimates. The top of the ladder isn't a group of leaders, it's a bunch of individuals trying to make as much money for themselves as humanly possible.
@TrippyTimesTwo
@TrippyTimesTwo Ай бұрын
God I don’t miss the public event grinding days. D2 was really something back then. Shoutout to Origin Story for hauling ass in Crucible, Nightwatch for carrying me through Leviathan, and Merciless being top tier heavy DPS.
@antwonmartinez8520
@antwonmartinez8520 2 күн бұрын
It’s funny as hell that rifle gaming went from a destiny youtuber to a fallout 76 youtuber
@mojojojo993
@mojojojo993 Ай бұрын
that pizza one's crazy. imagine paying $500,000 for a pizza.
@weirdeurasianboy8091
@weirdeurasianboy8091 Ай бұрын
Venezuela probably sells them at that price 🤷🏻‍♂️
@xperr7
@xperr7 Ай бұрын
Going to be honest, regarding the Baken one, he honestly was not that good without cheats. Played against him prior to the ban where my friends and I (1 average, 2 above average players) just ran over him using Rat King on Widows Court
@majora919
@majora919 Ай бұрын
He still plays the game to this day
@ButteLicher
@ButteLicher Ай бұрын
yeah i faced off against him one day in a duo with elon musk and baken couldn't even touch us lmao. we fucked his girlfriend afterwards too.
@angryaustralian8909
@angryaustralian8909 Ай бұрын
16:48 you thought I’d let that attempted heal nade slide.
@PubRunner
@PubRunner Ай бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video
@NathanStin
@NathanStin Ай бұрын
Sending a pizza to the CM is a veiled threat and you downplay it like crazy. They are showing him they know where he lives.
@xbotLife
@xbotLife Ай бұрын
Not a big deal
@tgr8576
@tgr8576 Ай бұрын
@@xbotLifenot a big deal that they know where he lives?
@channelhasbeensuspended3986
@channelhasbeensuspended3986 Ай бұрын
​@@tgr8576 and that they're not afraid to send something to said address? Yeah, totally "not a big deal"
@NathanStin
@NathanStin Ай бұрын
@@xbotLife It is though. Gamers are no stranger to doxxing, swatting, death threats etc because a video game changed something they dislike.
@LauraLovesHugs
@LauraLovesHugs Ай бұрын
@@xbotLife that is absolutely meant as a threat
@dixon137
@dixon137 Ай бұрын
that lono shit rubbed me the wrong way
@SuperSigite
@SuperSigite Ай бұрын
He didn’t do anything wrong either
@jesseritchie9282
@jesseritchie9282 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the lady was with a Bungie employee who was in the management department
@SuperSigite
@SuperSigite Ай бұрын
@@jesseritchie9282 Christopher Barrett. Sarah Daniels has always been a scummy person, she screams equality but body shames men all the time
@MrPatpuc
@MrPatpuc Ай бұрын
I remember you would be absolutely flamed on twitter/reddit for defending him at all.
@mackncheese1683
@mackncheese1683 Ай бұрын
I used to follow him and it was a very unfortunate situation. Only stopped watching for his recent astronomically bad takes.
@thealldayspecial
@thealldayspecial Ай бұрын
Honestly surprised you didn't mention the 2500 Iron Burden Defeats boosting lobby drama where Sneakybeaver and Ekugen, as well as others got caught boosting for the emblem and Bungie didn't do anything about it(probably because of what clan Sneak's in) but all sorts of community people ran a witch hunt to get Cheeseforever banned off various things because he made a video bringing light to the situation, something he actively only kept on youtube. So basically getting in trouble because somebody else posted his video.
@xxenthusedgames1540
@xxenthusedgames1540 Ай бұрын
Strike specific loot is something that should have never been removed. It's crazy that we're like 7 years in and we still haven't gotten that
@cryptopsyrin4425
@cryptopsyrin4425 Ай бұрын
"Bungies anti-cheat is 99.9% effective" he says in the same video where he shows complaints of cheaters running wild for months
@jonneiluhub6109
@jonneiluhub6109 Ай бұрын
I still remember the divinity drama. My take on that fiasco was that sure, div might have been too strong, but saltagreppo had the wrong argument when he said he was bored of using it to get world’s first
@tarrabah5775
@tarrabah5775 Ай бұрын
His Argument was that it was a must use in every Bossfight due to the linear Meta... Would be fine today with Rocket and gl
@makingacomment
@makingacomment Ай бұрын
Yeah the stupidity of his issue about divinity, was no one was forcing you to use that weapon. Make the game fun for yourself and use different strategies or play styles. It’s bs that the top 1% control everything for everyone else. No one else had an issue with it besides him and they followed through with his issue/fix.
@Bidniss.
@Bidniss. Ай бұрын
@@makingacomment Nah, it was an issue for everyone else too. Not only was Div the strongest debuff AND made a massive crit spot, it was also extremely boring to use. Now we actually get to think about what debuff to use since they all have tradeoffs... and the alternatives are much funner than knowing someone is going to have to just shoot div during dps. Your tether hunter, tractor cannon user or weaken provider can still have fun doing regular damage. Also the "just use other stuff lol" argument is completely invalid. Do you really expect people competing for a world's first title to not use the best thing available? If a pro basketball player is complaining about being bored in the finals, would you tell them to play blindfolded? Such a silly argument.
@makingacomment
@makingacomment Ай бұрын
@@Bidniss. The divinity was the same 30% global debuff as tether and tractor before the nerf so arguing it was the “Strongest Debuff” is a front faced half researched counter argument. Yeah it created a big crit cage. But that’s your thing dude if it was “too boring to use”. The only enemies it was actually beneficial that it made it an easier target was bosses like the Ghost of the Deep Final Boss, IR Yut and Atraks from Deep Stone Crypt. Every other single enemy in the game was big enough to use a tractor cannon or tether and have the same results. Sure you are making your team add more variables for consistent debuffs. At that point having to shoot tractor or having 2-3 Hunters with tether reapply a debuff every 20 seconds or a 8 seconds on tractor cannon is a laziness issue. Look it the set up for the strongest dps class in the game. Talking Titan with one to punch Syntho/Wormgod and tractor. Same concept. You have a decent amount of setup. But that’s the issue with people in this community. They all have their own stance on what is casual, broken or needs to be buffed. No one will ever be able to fully agree on anything. Going back to applying a debuff every 8-20 seconds between Hunter Tether and Tractor Cannon. You can argue that same point and say after you get use to the setup and how to consistently use it. “It’s too easy it needs a nerf 🤓😭” If you genuinely are playing that much and get bored or want everything tweaked you’re ruining it for the general community or casual player base it’s an elitist perspective problem. People want/need options. That partially is/isn’t the case now after the nerf. I’ll explain that in a bit. No one has a gun to your head forcing you to use that setup. Your argument about “if a pro basketball player is bored have him blindfold himself.” That just proved my argument. This isn’t a competition or a sport. It’s a video game. That counter argument doesn’t carry the fullest validity as you think. YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD AND WHAT ISN’T. IM IMAGINING YOU’VE PLAYED THE GAME LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU CAN USE. You sit there and act like I’m telling you to forget everything you know and go full cave man and not play the game with guns or the way it was meant to be played. But making the exotic not an exotic and ruining that sense of the power fantasy and chase behind the weapon is what wasted how many of peoples time. Now I hope you realize just because it’s nerfed this whole conversation is MUTE. Because: The strongest debuff takes president in a given situation. What does this mean? If you apply a tether which is ALMOST always the case for boss dps phases for fireteam stacks. That tether will supersede that DIVINITY you use with it. Again you can boast that it’s too much setup and blindfolding you but that’s pathetic or that “you have to actually think about what debuff to use” is wild. 90% or more of fireteams you operate with have that setup even in raids/nightfalls etc. sure some Hunters don’t always run NightStalker in casual content for obvious reasons. So a lot of them running Golden Gun. But in GMs and Raids that’s majority of the cases hence why I said 90%. So to say “it’s too much setup!! or a handicap” is a lazy argument. You don’t see people as titan mains begging for nerfs of builds/setups to those highest dps classes saying “It’s too boring!” They just move to something else. Like solar bonk, strand or stasis and that’s it. Lastly you’ve literally backed what I’ve stated about hunters or tractor so…. To come back and go back on that you exemplified that yourself. So you’re open to the idea or running it and not having an issue. Partially assuming there.
@makingacomment
@makingacomment Ай бұрын
@@Bidniss. Last point. You said that it was boring standing there shooting a crit cage. When literally every boss in the you setup your buff debuff then stand still and do damage. Surprised you got bored of the bubble debuff shooting and not bored of standing still for 7 plus years and doing damage. Crazy. That whole pro basketball blindfold argument we aren’t running around. Sure to setup for dps or to go through mechanics. But that’s it, you have to do the thing to get to do the thing. You’re shooting free throws objectively.
@AzeerMe
@AzeerMe Ай бұрын
great vid
@frost2094
@frost2094 Ай бұрын
bakan's aim is too good to be human, unsurprising
@CronusChronicles
@CronusChronicles Ай бұрын
My Immortal SMG anti-recoil video didnt make the list? Sadness
@bewarned8236
@bewarned8236 Ай бұрын
because youre not special. Everyone and their mothers use it.
@CronusChronicles
@CronusChronicles Ай бұрын
@@bewarned8236 Pretty sure I AM special. Like, super special. A wonderful and unique snowflake.....just like every one else.....so very special
@TheShahkulu
@TheShahkulu Ай бұрын
Honestly, you could make a part 2 and 3 to this video with the amount of controversies in D2, e.g. the multiple cases of SA and inappropriate contact with minors perpetuated by community members which even promoted Bungie to include a statement in the TWAB, Esoterickk cheating on and then gaslighting his wife for some e-girl, the disgusting schnell incident that came up recently.
@thephoenixlord2355
@thephoenixlord2355 Ай бұрын
I was one of the people that got randomly ban. No reason given and I tried to reach out to content creators to get some help and I was just left in the dark after sending in a ticket and getting no response for well over 2 months before finally being unbanned and given about $50 worth of silver. It was such a spit in the face, ever since then my mood for destiny has died down to similar levels as to when I stopped playing back in Shadowkeep
@EnergiserX
@EnergiserX Ай бұрын
4:34 - my 15 minutes of 'Internet Fame'. Love randomly coming across it every now and then :) It was a fun time trying to figure out what was happening. Massively anxiety inducing posting that massive wall of text on reddit - had no idea what was going to come of the whole thing.
@furen4962
@furen4962 Ай бұрын
Honestly, biggest one was the SNTR/Lono drama. Bunch of false allegations, Chris Barrett and his wife being bitches, loads of content creators getting in on it and making up stuff. It was an is still an insane topic to talk about
@yungcrisisactor
@yungcrisisactor Ай бұрын
That whole situation was insane
@henryyoho1742
@henryyoho1742 Ай бұрын
SNTR is a disgusting person who does not have a place in the destiny community. He openly admitted in his apology to sexual assault and his ban/the drama surrounding him was 100% justified.
@horizontide568
@horizontide568 Ай бұрын
I decided to go see how his channel was doing since you reminded me of that whole situation. His SNTR channel doesn't exist and he's rebranded. His new YT channel isn't doing very well though he might still be streaming. Idk I don't use Twitch anymore and haven't for a long time. That was a messy situation. It sounds like he flirted with a couple of girls from the Destiny community and they decided to ruin his career over it. A little bit of truth mixed with a whole lot of lies seems to be how that unfolded.
@vernonhowell4070
@vernonhowell4070 Ай бұрын
That scumbag Paul Tassi got his start because of Lono and he threw him under the bus with everyone else when Barrets wife was the one being a whore in his DMs. Snaps or whatever she called herself had well known mental issues and they believed her even crazier.
@laggers54
@laggers54 Ай бұрын
Hahaha, I think he was right to avoid it. He would have been completely ostracised if he mentioned that serval prominent destiny figures made false claims.
@serballista
@serballista Ай бұрын
Bungie: You did bad thing, banned! Banned Player: No I didn't? Please explain & prove it. Bungie: No Community: Wow Bungie, you guys are great! Good job!
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV Ай бұрын
Exceptions are not the rule
@Cagon415
@Cagon415 Ай бұрын
I haven't touched d2 in years. Thank you for reminding me why.
@thev1p3r
@thev1p3r 10 сағат бұрын
Bungie: "We issued out a couple bans. If you got banned, get fucked." Community: "Explain the reason for my ban." Bungie: "We decided there doesn't have to be a reason."
@DenethorDurrandir
@DenethorDurrandir Ай бұрын
Bungle: "We double-triple review our bans" Also Bungle: "Oops, guess we accidentally banned all speedrunners, tee-hee"
@delguin5447
@delguin5447 Ай бұрын
You know, one of the biggest false bans that never gets mentioned is what happened to Say no to rage ( a youtuber who got falsely accused of multiple different things and despite having proof he didnt actually do what he was accused of ) was developer banned ( and he literally cant appeal as the ban due to the appeal system not recognizing the ban ). It never gets mentioned despite it being pretty blatantly a false ban.
@henryyoho1742
@henryyoho1742 Ай бұрын
He was not falsely accused, he had SEVERAL women accuse him of sexual assault/harassment and was punished by bungie accordingly. People like him don’t belong In this community.
@loquek
@loquek Ай бұрын
I dunno about that, his apology video is still up somewhere and he still doing his content in his unique way that really isn't for me or many people. honestly I think the man needs some help (don't we all).
@delguin5447
@delguin5447 Ай бұрын
@@loquek What?
@loquek
@loquek Ай бұрын
@@delguin5447 He apologised for inappropriate behaviour towards women at a conference
@loquek
@loquek Ай бұрын
@@delguin5447 go look up SayNoToRage "An Apology" Video (Re-upload) if you want to see him admit and apologise to inappropriate behaviour...
@LordHollow
@LordHollow 29 күн бұрын
I left on ir around Osiris. Good to see I didn't miss anything.
@SpooktubeDeluxe
@SpooktubeDeluxe 21 күн бұрын
"Didn't show up to court", He's the type of dude to think everything is a joke.
@jyapp4489
@jyapp4489 Ай бұрын
The DMG Pizza incident made me *livid*. Dude already has to deal with lots of BS from the community, and then the Pizza incident happened. I still follow him on LinkedIn because he just seems like a cool dude, but man do I feel freaking awful for him and his family.
@jesseritchie9282
@jesseritchie9282 Ай бұрын
Lono definitely was screwed
@yungcrisisactor
@yungcrisisactor Ай бұрын
Amen 🙌
@nappuru
@nappuru Ай бұрын
19:58 glad someone spoke about this, so many talented players and editors screwed over. real ones knew g1 wasnt all that when the best members of the prior team were missing. SoaR, Exile, Solve and Revere bled passion, teams have always been small appealing to a minority, but man.. it was so fun.
@Jhoz3
@Jhoz3 22 күн бұрын
Rifle leaving was almost unbelievable
@djenjoi6436
@djenjoi6436 Ай бұрын
i can relate to the yter beeing falsely banned, my first d2 acc got banned for beeing in a strike with a cheater (i was afk so i didnt even know) appealed and denied (1252 hours gone) made a 2nd acc saw a cheater madly flying around in pvp, reported him, I got banned ig for that cuz theres no other reason, appealed and denied again (another 1450 hours gone) im on my third fucking acc now and a lil over hundred hours in, its js so painful to get banned for doing nothing js to appeal and getting denied by a fking bot ig so i fr lost 2702 hours of my life and multiple hundred euros js bc other ppl were cheating gg bungie EDIT nvm i cant relate to him since apparently he did cheat, i did never nor do i nor will i ever ppl who cheat have accomplished nothing in life
@heramaaroricon4738
@heramaaroricon4738 Ай бұрын
Your experiences must be rare exceptions, because the last time I did see a cheater was when Fallout Plays posted his Trials cheater video in 2018(?)
@mggaming968
@mggaming968 Ай бұрын
i do not trust the anti cheat detection as two of my friends got banned over the years, one of which hadn't set foot into crucible in 3 years at that point and quite frankly, was literally just "a guy" in terms of PVE accomplishments, barely raided. The other was an unironic god in PVE and PVE with an unreal level of game knowledge. Managed to coach me and several clanmates to getting our first Lighthouse runs and flawless raids. Not carried by him. His coaching alone was enough for that. So yeah. I am inclined to believe ppl when they get banned and claim they didn't cheat
@bound882
@bound882 Ай бұрын
They have a weird anti cheat then wtf? I’ve played 2 cheaters ever in crucible(literally flying around with aimbot) and never been banned. Reported them and even stayed the whole match. Yet like you said there’s people who get banned by matching against a cheater
@Kyubii01
@Kyubii01 Ай бұрын
Destiny’s whole existence is a controversy
@kalomandastra
@kalomandastra 17 күн бұрын
Funny thing, that ban wave where d2 gunsmith guy got banned, I also got banned and then later unbanned. They said they were going to reach out to everyone affected, but they never did... They also denied all of my appeals, but unbanned me anyway. I'm still upset about it almost two years later.
@robertetchingham7337
@robertetchingham7337 Ай бұрын
15:43 dude this is a straight up villain arc! He went scorched earth on Destiny 🤣🤣
@missionredsea2261
@missionredsea2261 Ай бұрын
I personally think that Destiny 3 will be the next content after The Final Shape, but I'm finished after The Final Shape. Only sticking around because I'm invested in the story, but the company and game, with the content sunsetting, predatory microtransactions, and ignoring the player base has soured me completely on Bungie. Sigh, I miss the Red War. What an amazing start to a game...
@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398
@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 Ай бұрын
Destiny 3 isn't happening.
@DragonShinobi
@DragonShinobi Ай бұрын
@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 Destiny 3 is all but confirmed at this point. there's no way bungie would give up their biggest cash cow. That's like saying Rockstar is going to take out shark cards in GTA6.
@ivankyselov2030
@ivankyselov2030 Ай бұрын
There will be no D3, devs said that...
@Alckee6904
@Alckee6904 Ай бұрын
@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 leaks from trusted sources for the past half decade say otherwise. You're mooore then welcome to prove said leakers like liz wrong. Go ahead
@Alckee6904
@Alckee6904 Ай бұрын
@@ivankyselov2030 leaks froom trusted sources said otherwise
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