Phumi was very disrespectful. She would never ask Steenhuisen, Mazzone or Malema about what they know about organograms or who gave them authority. Secondly, 3 months is hardly enough time to do something meaningful in office. Her behaviour throughout that interview was simply disgusting.

This interview has solidified my vote for the PA. Ons baiza nie.

This host and the lady clearly had a personal vendetta against Ashley and it miserably backfired. The more she opened her mouth ,the more she proofed how ignorant she is. Was unnecessary and immature of the host to mention how he made financial contributions to the PA ,just to take a snap at Ashley.

53:18 That was Einstein: Einstein is quoted as having said, “If I had an hour to solve a problem I'd spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem and five minutes thinking about solutions.” Sorry Phumi, but you owe him an apology

Well done Ashley,you where really a professional,in the hateful interview.

Ashley you took Phumi to the cleaners bro. Salute masekind

Gareth and Phumi were extremely hostile to Ashley.....but thanx for not breaking MMC, ons baiza nie....👌💯

The hosts are patronising and only hear what they want to hear. This was never going to be an informative engagement. Common guys, do better

Not a fan of Phumi......too arrogant and interjecting with nonsensical comeback. Oom Biza owned the stage. Well done MMC IN WAITING

I’m deleting the CliffCentral app

Yall just got owned... 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣....

Things that we could have learnt about but couldn't because the hosts were hostile and so hung up on the agreement issue: The PA's relationship with the ANC. If there is a choice between DA or ANC come 2024, who would they side with? How did their voters respond to them leaving the coalition and the constant changing of local governments? Aren't they worried that they won't be able to win over coloured voters in the Cape because of their relationship with the ANC? Their leader has said that they have a national agreement with the ANC, what is that and what does it entail? Would they join back with the DA's Joburg coalition if the position of speaker was given to the IFP now or are they stuck with the ANC's coalition? What does he think about what's happening in EKhuruleni? Why did he choose MMC of Transport with the ANC led coalition instead of continuing with his role as the MMC of health, would it not have been better if he continued with the same job? ... I understand that you guys don't like the PA, but if you are interviewing politicians, we need to get more value instead of this semantics back and forth and Phumi rolling her eyes at guests. We missed out a lot and could have gotten some deeper insights on coalition politics in SA, which is a new phenomenon in SA. Instead, we got more value talking about the U.S midterms more than talking with a local government leader. Anyway, love the show, just some constructive critique.

Phumi failed... was very rude, didn't get her facts right! I think Gareth & Phumi was very hostile and I feel they attacked him from the get go, not sure whether because he dialled in late but clearly would never have attacked a Jaco, Johnny or Julius like this. I think he did well standing up, I would've attacked them as well. They failed and did not provoke him but disrespected him question his abilityand cv... so me another they did this to _ it's a setup for failure _ disagree with me? 🙈💥

Would love to see a debate between Gareth, the petty socialist and Ashley.....

After this disrespectful interview of Phumi and Gareth , I will respectfully put my vote next to th Patriotic Alliance and Ashley.

We could have gotten so much more out of this, but the hosts were too hostile, especially Phumi. The Indian dude was the most reasonable. I understand you don't agree with someone, I'm also not a PA fan, I'd rather vote for ActionSA, but man, learn how to engage with people you disagree with. Phumi was out there giggling and rolling here eyes, you can't have an informative discussion with such hosts. Shout out to the Indian dude for being hospitable

Phumi get your facts, you embarrassing yourself!

Well done on pushing back as well as you all did today

Woza 2024...PA Move🙌

Phumi and Gareth got this completely wrong at every turn especially cutting him off like that was very uncouth. Shout out to Mr. Pillay with the debt-free flex 🔥🔥🔥

Ashley: Catapulted too early 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That girl got all her facts wrong and had the audacity to roll her eyes and laugh at Ashley. Imagine asking how as an MMC of health you can talk with such authority and know nothing about health. What authority do you have to ask him about politics when you know nothing about politics? Plus how many MMC's actually know anything about medicine? Do you even know what the function of an MMC is? 😂 Yal could've had the interview without Ashley coz yal weren't interested in a word he had to say. Completely biased, hostile and very condescending. Yal would never interview a DA member like that never.

Just wow

Gareth and Mpumi were extremely disrespectful and biased and like that - very unprofessional and just showed you how ignorant you really are I will never listen to this show again I’m disgusted Were you guys paid to show such bias 😡

I was gonna Sub, but no thank you! Bye.

Really now Phumi doing background check on Ashley omw...how many much many we have of your people with zero knowledge in the positions they are in... Secondly how do you xpect work from in him 3months...others are in their jobs for 20+ years and even they have nothing to show...

Ashley 🙌🏾

If dumb dumb was a person that guy takes it all

Ashley is a true politician - talks a lot about nothing.

This woman is soooo rude 😮 condescending

This guy is so frustrating, haybo! 🙆

Thy are biased ND thy intent is not constructive.... U are disrespectful especially the ignorant lady... She should never have... this platform... Gareth also biased

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Wow 😮 look peeps... look and learn. This is how you conduct an interview if you're used to the "mobbing" mentality. Well done Ashley for standing your ground with two extremely arrogant and biased interviewers. They should be ashamed of their biased attitudes. Yes, mr Cliff and his factually incorrect lady friend are indeed stunned at the brilliance of a brown man!!! Sorry to say.... Cliff & Co - 0 Ashley Sauls 10/10