Hahahaha, great comment. So true!

Same here my well-read baller.

The Count of Monte Cristo is the BEST book I ever read period.

Here I come with Homer’s Iliad

For me personally, "Notes From Underground" is my favorite.

20000 Leagues

I'm looking into buying it for the first time.

Poetically well put.

I should report you for being a genius!

Morro Treece yes I find even his scratchy baritone voice even adds to the poetic nuance in his pieces! You're right...a poet and you kno it.:-D thanks for commenting. ♥

AssassinLeader17 yeah. Report him to the Nobel board....he's a shoe-in..:-D thx for your words.♥

perfectly well put :)

1400

Indeed.

No problem with the lingo part though :)

Its actually a PhD

Fox Populi I did not know that. Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference? I know it's a dumb question but if I never ask I am not going to know!

blockmasterscott A PhD stands for Doctor of Philosophy in English. The Latin words match up with the acronym. It requires more years of schooling to get than a Master's degree.

Ahhh ok, thanks for the answer!

I need that tune

now wouldn't it be nice if we were older. We are older now. It's been a long long time.

Even longer now

One for the guy who you over, the other one for the other guy who also fucked you over :)

Alejandro Rodriguez Damn straight.

Alejandro Rodriguez That's one way of putting it. But the meaning is a little bit of yourself dies as well.

Paladin Demo Yeah I know, I was just being silly

Alejandro Rodriguez It was still good.

Hi Ethan, very nice comment. I would just like to suggest that Caderousse is much more than a "bystander"; and he certainly is no "friend", even all those years ago. If anything, Edmond is naive--choosing to see people in a positive light even if their actions do not warrant such consideration. Please reread chapters 3-5 (The Catalans-The Plotters-The Betrothal Feast) as you may discover, like I did on my second reading, that Caderousse, prior to becoming too drunk, fans the flames of this conspiracy through his rhetoric. Among other things, he certainly goads Fernand into action. The "diamond" in my estimation, is a "test" of Caderousse's character--which is eventually revealed. This tension on God's will, justice, vengeance etc. that you speak of that exists throughout Dumas's epic work is spot on and certainly something that man grapples with today. Still, a very nice comment--thank you.

Even if Caderousse may have inspired the idea, he for the most part began defending Dantes when he saw that Danglas was taking this joke way too seriously and began to protest the whole idea. However every time he protested, they just got him more and more drunk until he no longer knew what was going on. As a person he may not have been the best of people, but he did give Dantes his first job as he mentions giving him his first piece of silver and seems generally happy at how far Dantes has come since then. What is interesting is that Dantes after escaping jail sees himself as an agent of providence, dishing out charity and revenge as he sees fit. With Caderousse, he gives him a diamond as a test of character but as a result sets of a chain of events that makes things worse. His wife and the jeweler were both killed needlessly and Caderousse went on to become an actual criminal instead of just a coward. You could say that with Danglas' bank going bankrupt, anyone banking with him may be in deep trouble. Villenfort's family are killed after Dantes inspires his wife to kill them after their long talk of poison. The only real death that doesn't seem to bad is Fernand, who kills himself.

I think he knew that giving him that diamond wasn’t something Cad. could handle.

Yeah also that Haydee is the daughter of the royalty Fernand betrayed which is why he is using her as witness to confirm Fernand’s dirt.

Ethan Rummel Monte Cristo at the very end realizes he was foolish to believe that. The topic of revenge is the glue that ties together the themes of happiness in life, and justice. Seeing himself as a divine being was kind of mental gymnastics Dante used to justify his “scorched earth” revenge tactics. For example he quotes the Bible to Mercedes to justify killing Albert. It’s only after he drops the pretense of being god’s instrument that he learns to exact his revenge more appropriately. Nobody can pretend to know what god wants and justifying punishment on many people who did nothing to you by pretending to be a divine conduit is just crazy. After his conversation with Mercedes in which he admits to being mortal is his final revenge on Danglars where he leaves him poor but spares his life, showing his progression as a character.

haha

Anthony Masuskapoe Tru talk tho

Wait him and Mercedes don't get back together? But I thought she only married Fernand because she was pregnant and thought he was dead.

@@Starmadien2019 I think that was just in the movie

The count is LITERALLY the most interesting man in the world

don't say god damn that's a bad word

well fuck

First 200 pages are best when his still in jail!Looooove it

The Count, I mean.

+Nathan Wise interesting take

Nathan Wise a bit more elegant, but yes.

The punisher is a new school Edmond dantès just saying!!! The movie for this was ok but not everything was right l.

Indeed! I'd say though he's more like the 2004 movie version,where he uses misinformation and deceit so his enemies bring their downfall to themselves and violence is only used when necessary

Its not about that!Its Christian book and about forgivenes at the end. Edmond said 'I becamed like Satan himself' cause Edmond think that he can revenge on this people but truth is only God can.We learn that with Edmond at the end of the book! Edmond was in prison in his mind and controled by demons.Later he find freedom in forgivenes.

the book is better

It was a pretty cool anime. I liked the art style.

They are both pretty good, the book lacks action, while the anime includes too many tropes (seriously, Albert as the hapless main character?)

How long is the anime?

tsuyayaka1 I believe it was around 24 episodes that last around 30 minutes. I highly recommend it.

Um no. It most certainly does NOT "read as if it was just written yesterday" get over yourself

Yep, and in most recent iterations that I'm aware of (musical, Guy Pearce film, etc.), it's structured that way for the audience to understand better, because God knows, the book gets extremely complicated! Heck, I don't even think they included Caderousse in them just because his role wasn't significant enough.

+Slowpoke is Happy Yeah, true. I think this is the most faithful adaptation I've seen.

I think it might be because Danglars didn't really have much of a motive, unlike Fernand.

he did in the movie

Not at all. Danglars was the worst offender because the letter of denunciation/plot against Dantes was his idea in the first place. Without him Dantes would never have gone to jail. Also, Danglars was the one of the 4 men who PERSONALLY disliked Dantes. Villefort didn't even know him. Catarousse hated everyone, and Fernand didn't dislike him personally--he was just jealous about Mercedes. It does feel a little weird that Dantes let Danglars off the hook at the end, and he didn't die or go crazy like the others. But on the other hand, he was the only one who apologized/repented at the end. None of the others apologized.

Muad'Dib gonna make it rain!

We can get it crunk and get the place crack-alack-Arrakis up in this joint!

Shai Hulud be bringin the sweet spice juice for all my mind flavors

seconded

Yes, please yes, I love that book more than some people. I'd love to hear what this guys has to say about it.

So reading gets you girls!? *runs to the library*

leaveowits Nah blood, reading gets you women. Big difference homie.

Steven Bishop Truly well spoken.

Because Thug Notes is supposed to be a supplement for the actual reading, rather than a replacement. That'd be like saying that there's no need to watch Star Wars when all I have to do is tell you that Vader is Luke's father, and they beat the Emperor at the end.

Valgaav19 Dude, spoilers. (Kidding. 30 years ago.)

Valgaav19 Yeah I know, just having fun

Plowbeast Yeah, that's one of the few spoilers I feel that I can drop without receiving legitimate backlash. :-P

Alejandro Rodriguez Whoops, sorry. Sometimes I miss jokes when they're in type. :-P