tbh, it's probly take too long for the movie to come around (seeing as how he was almost dead, would probly need to heal), and he'd turn to the chemicals regardless in a desprate attempt Fuck his Agent for what he did, but it was probly going to happen anyways.

​@@xoctavia1418 I mean, he's a Gotham citizen. Whether he died horribly or became a Batman villain, the dude was fucked either way. Plus due to the fact that status quo is God, he probably can't even kill himself (if possible) because Batman loves his Rogues Gallery more than anything, no matter the writer (sometimes).😑

All this could have been avoided if he had not been on the phone while driving

or embrace it like the harley quinn version does

don't think plastic surgery could fix that. it's not a miracle cure for disfigurement

AMOGUS

perhaps the room itself is clayface 🧐

Hopefully there is a scene where they tie a bunch of people to a fucking couch.

@@aglot7665 That would be a cool reveal.

IS THAT THE IMPOSTER FROM AMONGUS?

Idk man the perfect specimen of humanity gigachad batman telling a guy who looks like a burnt pizza to essentially get over it came off as a little ... Douchey?

@@nataliealphonse4634 except that isn’t what he told him. He literally laid out a road to redemption for him but like OP said, the brain damage and traumatic childhood was already done and there was no turning back. Some of y’all find any reason to call Batman a dick

@@ez6888 let me guess you are one of the people that got mad at the "Batman's a fascist joke" lol

@@nataliealphonse4634 what are you even talking about? What does fascism have to do with this? That was the weirdest response

I dont know, man is like it was not like he was a criminal killer or anything.. but Batman just wanted to use the poor basil to "HELP" him to put the only thing that makes this man crippled man become a man again. IF you think about it, probably basil was gonna try to become the best moster he could be in the name of his father and them desapier forever... Like this was his only goal, and is silly ideia to think that Batman was gonna help him with anything.. because Batman even try to help Two faces with the bests plastic surgeons.. (and Two faces is a fucking pysacopath).. but Basil, he only offers redemption to the people tha see him as a monster..... Wow how good of him, go to a man that lost not only his hoke carrier but all that he cares abou and his father for the "great of good"...

Also the numerous other Clayfaces like Matt Hagen and more would be interesting

No we do see and she becomes Mudface

Bet he would have survived DCeased

honestly I would’ve found it hilarious if the chemicals just didn’t do anything due to whatever reason, and she comes out perfectly fine. Revealing that there was only one real monster at that movie studio.

True that, but he’s never been great with the whole “omg you’re disfigured” thing. Literally multiple times, and to his best friend Harvey dent (twoface) when he got acid attacked. He really needs to like get some bedside manner’s fr.

I'm not convinced Batman knew Basil's "deal" when he punched him. He knew he was stealing chemicals from a company, not his identity or anything. To Batman it was just another guy stealing shit. However, if Batman had just stopped, and listened, to this criminal, instead of punching him immediately, he might've been able to reach an understanding. No one in this story made all the right choices. Batman isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. And sometimes those mistakes lead to the creation of a whole new villain.

You missed the part where Basil told Batman he wasn't going to stop from getting the chemicals.

@@yourarchnemesis8453 batman for this instance is being a cunt for a man who can think up many scenario's he knew basil wasnt a criminal just a man struggling but yet didnt intervene to help him but instead fuck him up

Batman didn't want to ruin Basil's career, he was giving Basil a chance to take control of the situation. Testifying and stopping the man that made the chemical that disfigured him, gave him brain damage, and was a danger to more people out there would've made this bad situation lean in Basil's favor in the long run. He lost his role in this movie and was labeled a crook, but helping Batman and Harvey would save his reputation and keep his career somewhat intact

Lets gooooo

Oh boy KaDoSt, haven’t heard that one before

Mullet Man and Internet Pitstop. The best of KZfaq.

Yes dear

That's what the Harley quinn cartoon does. Clayface is just a normal guy

Clayface actually has a thriving acting career because being able to change his appearance literally let's him play every role

Because comics.

I mean, his old face is now the face of a wanted criminal, and the chemical is actively stated to fuck with your brain so probably wouldn't have the same charm as before.

I remember the animated series explained it as when he's shapeshifting he can't maintain it very long. "It's like flexing a muscle. You can hold it for awhile but eventually you have to let go and let it rest" so he could only be normal briefly before becoming Clayface again

Literally his best public prospect would be as the main attraction of a freak show. I like to think that humanity is good at heart but even I know that society accepting him would be idealistic and naive

he could of still starred in horror movies, while it may be degrading there's a few disabled actors who flourished in horror due to their looks and that would of meant a lot to him as one of his big psychological things was being a horror star for his father.

​@@StickySauce101 Yeah, he would likely have had a bunch of walk-on "Creature of the week" roles on TV shows, and done some cameo monster suitwork for a bit before getting back to being the lead monster in the next universal studios monster movie. but his career could have recovered. one of the best horror films of the black and white "talkies" era is arguably Tod Browning's "Freaks", with a cast that is like 75% deformed professional circus freakshow acts. for many of them it wasn't their only role. the dwarf that played "Hans", Harry Earles, was also one of the representatives of the lollipop guild in "The Wizard of Oz", with the woman who played his dwarf wife "Frieda" in Freaks(his sister Daisy) as well as 2 of their other siblings playing various Munchkins in the "Munchkinland" and "follow the yellow brick road" scenes. Johnny Eck, the "amazing half-boy" seen in Freaks, got film roles doing suitwork for creature fx, most notably he was the "Gooney Birds" in 3 tarzan films, Tarzan the Ape Man, Tarzan Escapes, and Tarzan's Secret Treasure. he also worked as a magician's assistant for a magician named Rajah Raboid with his "Normal" fraternal twin brother Robert around 1937, and they had the absolute best "sawing a person in half" illusion, since they could swap Robert for Johnny and a dwarf actor dressed as Johnny's legs, and then have the legs jump out of the box and run around the stage, prompting Johnny to climb out of the box and run after his legs on his hands after the illusion for shock value. perfection. Michael Berryman, the actor best known for playing Pluto in the original "The Hills have Eyes" 1 & 2, wasn't using prosthetic fx makeup in that role, he actually looks like that due to a genetic disorder called hypohidrotic ectodermal dysplasia, and he's had a very prolific career, playing in films such as "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", "Weird Science", "Star Trek IV", "Star trek V", "The Guyver", "The Crow"(deleted scene), "The Devil's Rejects", "Scooby-Doo! Curse of the Lake Monster", as well as TV shows like "Star Trek:The Next Generation", "X-Files", and "Tales from the Crypt". i've always wanted to see him in the lead role in a "Nosferatu" remake, i think he'd absolutely kill it in that role.

And even if he did make a better choice with his life, I expect that Gotham, being the instant killer of happiness, peace, and even sanity, would put him in some incident that would drive Basil to villiany such as being messed with in the head by the joker or something.

@@andrewramlall3560 Freak shows were a good deal for the "Freaks" because they'd get food, housing, friends and money...until the public claimed they were being exploited.

He becane a good guy for a while apparently

I remember hearing a comic where he becomes good just because someone asked him to change. All though that could by The Rhino.

He does.. with Batman. Basil Karlo becomes a member of the Batfamily and works alongside Bruce

@@ez6888 - Yep, and he evens has a special "Clay armor" that he uses in tandem with Batman, to give him a superstrong power suit. Clayface also learns to divide himself into a bunch of "clones" and keep them like that for a long time, even if it's very difficult... I loved his friendship with Cass (Orphan) during these arcs, and the way it ended was heartbreaking. That was cool to see the Batfamily genuinely stand up for him in the end... Batman be really angry at Batwoman for what she did.

Read Gotham Knights rebirth for dat

I’m sure Batman knows that but the man admittedly has issues, I’m sorry that you have to go through that

I want a very muscular man to punch me, unfair 😭😭😭

This is why I love the Harley Quinn cartoon version of clayface. He's making the best of things given his situation, and he's allowed to be hilarious and endearing instead of a monster.

It's body dysmorphia, not dysphoria, but I still get what you mean!

At the time he broke up with her, the chemicals were probably already starting to mess with his brain, so it wasn't really his fault.

You're a sociopath

@@kingofnoobs9728of course it was his fault but I see what you mean.

Clayface pretending to be Hush could be really scary.

Clayface pretending to be Batman while Hush pretends to be Bruce Wayne would be awesome to see. Ruin Bruce's reputation so much that he can't be safe no matter which identity he tries to run and hide in

John Carpenter says hi

funny thing is the Basil Karlo clayface is based on horror Icons Lon Chaney Sr(the "Man of a thousand faces" who played in the original phantom of the opera), Boris Karloff(frankensteins monster/the mummy), and Basil Rathbone(Sherlock Holmes), but the story you reference is very similar to the plot of a later Vincent Price film(Theatre of Blood, 1973.) in which Price plays a traditional shakespearean actor that gets absolutely ripped to shreds by critics for being stale and gets mocked at an award ceremony, later faking his death to murder all the critics who ruined his career by killing them one by one in ways very similar to murder scenes in the season of William Shakespeare's plays that he last performed. Before each murder, he recites the critic's damning review of his performance in the role. this was Vincent's personal favorite role of his career. he really enjoyed the catharsis of basically playing himself and murdering judgmental theatre/film critics, lol. i've always wondered if the film-makers read the comic(Detective Comics #40, if anyone wants to read it)and that's where the inspiration came from. so yeah Basil Karlo is literally an entire Halloween horror movie marathon rolled into one man.

@@gourdguru I forgot about Theatre of Blood. I always compared Price's Madhouse to Karlo's first appearance.

He really is one of the most underutilized villains despite having the most versatility. He's crazy like The Joker, highly charismatic, vastly superhuman, has a healing factor better than Wolverine's, and has multiple exploitable weaknesses that would still allow someone like Batman to beat him. If Clayface had both the intelligence and ambition. He could EASILY be a main antagonist instead of just hired help. Clayface has the potential to be a far more dangerous Hush.

Listen man Ezra is his own super villain idk what dirt he has on those warner executives but it's powerful

Hehe flash backs

don't even get me started on Ezra. idk what irks me more; what he did, the fact the suits are willing to abide in the name of profit, or the fact that society has such collective apathy and short term memory that the audience is ALSO going to abide and the new flash film will see NO negative consequence as a result. i hate people.

@@gourdguru He self-identifies as part of the currently protected Alphabet Group which is why he gets to do just about anything he wants. It's as simple as that.

@@ForeverLaxx oh don't try to blame LGBT people for this shit, moron. Ezra is protected by money and nothing else.

Seeing how there was a short time span as Basil was going to steal again the night after, not sure what you expect him to do.

@@yourarchnemesis8453 He's Batman, he has a supercomputer in his basement.

"hey Batman...STAY COOL!" apologies. i'll just show myself out.

I was looking for this comment. Even in the animated series,Clayface's origin was tragic & the scene at the end of the episode was surreal.

@@muhammadnabil3390 yeh they don't make em like that anymore, and that series was made for kids but it had so much depth it was like watching mini movies. Remember the ventriloquist villain? Brilliant.

@@FightingIsLife Ufff...you just reminded me a wave of episodes of the BAS. Now that you mention it,indeed,the imagery of the Gotham & the cartoon series as a whole was a bit on the darker side & it was ok at that time for the kids.

Yeah Batman really did screw this up

He did exactly that for killer croc, but couldn't for clayface, which is very weird

WhY woUlD KiDs DrIvE ???

…the crowbar could literally be used as a weapon bro

Batman who laughs vs The Spiderman who scowls

Do you mean our regular Batman laughing, or The Batman Who Laughs

@@alchemistofsteel8099 thanks that's way better than the one I made up

You would rob a bank after THE BATMAN told that the path your about to walk on is wrong.

@@mohammadhosseini6675 (・◇・;) ? - ( What? )

​@@mohammadhosseini6675 you'll unfortunately learn that most people are morally weak

@@Supersonicspyro ヾ(゜０゜*)ノ ー( What??? ）

@@Supersonicspyroyes!!! In real life A LOT of people are very morally corrupt and weak, honestly when people get saved and when there’s a good ending it becomes unrealistic but now I’m just being pessimistic lol

It is a really good comedic take on the character.

clayface, when written well, can be amazing. my first "oh snap, i'm straight up sleepin' on this fool" moment with clayface was the new batman adventures episode called "Growing pains", in which a separated chunk of clayface he sent out as a scout disguised as a young girl gains sentience/independence and has no memory of what she is, and robin tries to save/protect her, but ultimately she gets reabsorbed by clayface. before this episode clayface is just a mid level criminal, a thief, hired muscle, etc., but after this, as far as Tim Drake is concerned, Clayface just committed murder.

BTW, do you know what happened to his girlfriend after being splashed by renew?

@@Angelmunoz_19 the comic doesn't show her again. it cuts to the flashback of basil and his dad watching The Wolfman immediately after she gets hit with the chemical, and that flashback is where the story ends. i don't know if any other comic circles back to that, but this story doesn't. EDIT: did some digging for you. so the next time we see her, she's turned into "Mudface", the chemicals gave her the powers of Clayface but none of his control. she joins the Victim Syndicate, a group of people who's lives were ruined by getting caught in the crossfire between batman and his villains. she blames batman, not clayface, for her situation. here's a pic of her: static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/2/2d/Glory_Griffin_%28Prime_Earth%29_0001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161109180558

@@Angelmunoz_19 She probably turned into another Clayface-like being.

Which is?

What did you think it implied?

What is it implying dude?

That they were actually monsters disguised as humans

that’s what i’m trying to find out too 😭 it would make it so much more sad if basil was a victim of child abuse or something else horrible along those lines

yeah. have him use the Renu to change his appearance, use the original origin story as a basis for his criminality and spend the movie having batman dealing with essentially "the thing/invasion of the body snatchers", where literally anyone in the room could be clayface at any time, then end it with the chemical bath, filmed in such a way that if they wanted to try and bring him back as the supernatural shapeshifter later they could, but if they don't think they can pull it off, they can just make that his death scene.

It's possible

Pick up a pencil and start drawing pal. You think comic artists were born good at drawing? They drew. A lot

@@gabrielpinhal8325 Ive been drawing for at least 30 years, thank u very much.

That panel of Basil melting from open fire is one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen with or without context