The Dangers Of Watch Winders - How To Buy & Use Them Properly - GIAJ#4

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The Urban Gentry

The Urban Gentry

5 жыл бұрын

In today’s episode of Gentry In a Jiffy, I talk about watch winders. Why do watchmakers hate them? What are the dangers? Which winders should you refrain from buying, and how do you use them properly to avoid damaging your watches?
I also share my opinion on why WOLF winders are the best on the market. Before you consider putting your watches on a winder or risk wasting money on the wrong one, watch this video today!
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@konsept011
@konsept011 5 жыл бұрын
I put my Seiko in my watch winder, now it’s a Rolex.
@gelmibson883
@gelmibson883 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@patrickdehaan3670
@patrickdehaan3670 5 жыл бұрын
Powered by green moon cheese, right?
@konsept011
@konsept011 5 жыл бұрын
Patrick De Haan of course
@MegaRichardHoward
@MegaRichardHoward 5 жыл бұрын
Must be a WOLF winder then 😁😁 - if you say WOLF 25 times in a video you get a free one.
@johnmichel1570
@johnmichel1570 5 жыл бұрын
Why that's a downgrade my poor chap
@wirdy1
@wirdy1 5 жыл бұрын
A bit misleading. Let's face it, a movement is wearing out all the time it's running. Modern automatics cannot be 'over-wound', the mainspring is carefully designed to slip in the barrel once fully wound. An inexpensive winder that has selectable rotation and timer will cause no more appreciable wear than wearing the watch. A watch that's rested will wear less since the movement will be dormant, but setting the time & date regularly will put wear onto the day/date ratchets & pawls & the drivetrain clutches. So you're trading wear on some items for wear on other items. In general, the autowind mechanism is designed to be more resilient/tolerant to wear than the setting mechanisms. Daily wear is the ideal, however, given the choice of a winder or manually resetting the watch every few days, the winder gets my vote.
@jakeizlove
@jakeizlove 11 күн бұрын
I know the thread is 5 years old, but I wanted to thank you for such a well-considered and informative response.
@rolo84
@rolo84 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the very thorough and thoughtful comment-very helpful!
@Menruleall
@Menruleall 4 күн бұрын
​@@jakeizloveIndeed.
@Menruleall
@Menruleall 4 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I just received my very first watch winder today. It's a swinging pendulum style winder. No motors, no belts. Just a plastic scaffolding with the watch bracket on top, and a long pendulum with a magnet at its end, over an electromagnetic base. Very simple. Very effective. I've read loads today about how a winder will prematurely wear out the winding mechanism, but all day I've been questioning, "how is the winder any different than simply wearing the watch?" The only difference I can see is wearing the watch will subject it to much harsher shock and wear.
@nakazatotakeshi4286
@nakazatotakeshi4286 5 жыл бұрын
Hello tgv, im 14 and i got into Watches because of you, in fact, you made a video about danger of overprice fashion watches and made me start my collections on Orient Three Stars and i could not be happy than this, and bought Casio Databank DBC611, And Orient Mako II, and i just want to say, Thank You
@nakazatotakeshi4286
@nakazatotakeshi4286 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryno Project thank you!
@benb1131
@benb1131 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 15 and recently purchased a seiko 5 (snk807). For €30 bidding of eBay. It even came with a one piece nylon strap
@josephdyball3166
@josephdyball3166 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my first seiko 5 (a snzf17) at the age of 12 and now two years later I’m buying an skx009, it’s nice to know there are others interested in the hobby.
@waldenswonderfulworldofwat3129
@waldenswonderfulworldofwat3129 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 14 and you also helped guide me in the world of watches. I bought a Hamilton Khaki King a year ago because of your review.
@dogez1
@dogez1 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some really classy choices for a young whipper snapper! I like orient too. My bambino get as much wrist time as any of my watches and it’s nearly my cheapest. Keep up the good choices young man!
@jonmy357
@jonmy357 5 жыл бұрын
First I get three hearts on my comments, now one is actually featured in a video.... nothing like a creator that engages with the community. Thank you for your time!
@llANNIHILATORll
@llANNIHILATORll Жыл бұрын
My wife used this video to buy me a watch winder for Christmas and I am over the moon. Big thank you TGV for your good work as it has landed me a Wolf and somehow added to the insane amount of love I have for my wife.
@ryanjofre
@ryanjofre 8 ай бұрын
Blessed man, kick ass wife!
@owentreadgold8658
@owentreadgold8658 5 жыл бұрын
You have got to admit, a whole wall of watch winders does look pretty cool though
@34979Charlie
@34979Charlie 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.... no it doesn´t
@NCHobbies
@NCHobbies 4 жыл бұрын
Or a drawer full of them like the wardrobe from Dr. Strange.
@ethanwilliamson782
@ethanwilliamson782 3 жыл бұрын
N.C. Exactly what made me want one😂
@TheWeardale1
@TheWeardale1 3 жыл бұрын
it does to the burglars...
@owentreadgold8658
@owentreadgold8658 3 жыл бұрын
TheWeardale1 that’s why you have them built into a safe
@mightbesherwood1313
@mightbesherwood1313 5 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it, if you put a G-Shock in one of these things, it will release the nanobots inside...
@patrickdehaan3670
@patrickdehaan3670 5 жыл бұрын
Mightbe Sherwood: LOL 😆
@jasonwhiteside5517
@jasonwhiteside5517 4 жыл бұрын
thought they were just breaking them, aggressively.
@pete5668
@pete5668 4 жыл бұрын
...and the nanobots will laugh hysterically.
@davidstrange6759
@davidstrange6759 4 жыл бұрын
Do you want the borg, because that's how you get the borg
@mbh3929
@mbh3929 3 жыл бұрын
4:05 the way he smiles when he speaks about his watches u know he’s in love with them!!
@macaronijones1
@macaronijones1 5 жыл бұрын
Made my Friday in a jiffy! Thanks for another outstanding video, sir.
@steve69chevy
@steve69chevy 5 жыл бұрын
Power your automatic with electronics ! Now it's basically like a Quartz ., but with more hassle.
@JuvoII
@JuvoII 4 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory Rottweilers were bred to carry the medieval business mans purse around it's neck, so why not his watch.
@steve69chevy
@steve69chevy 4 жыл бұрын
Ya., I’ve thought about putting a watch on the dog., but it might get more activity in a drawer.
@steve69chevy
@steve69chevy 4 жыл бұрын
My dog might find a way to ingest the watch ..,
@steve69chevy
@steve69chevy 4 жыл бұрын
JuvoII I should train my dog to carry my booze ., like those Saint Bernards in the Alps
@Phafanapolis
@Phafanapolis 4 жыл бұрын
Winders are for dorks who 1) are over thinking their watches and 2) have unwieldy and large collections. A perpetual calendar is the only reasonable use case.
@chrislj2890
@chrislj2890 5 жыл бұрын
I've had my Wolf Designs Meridian winder for over four years and it works just as well now as it did when new. Thanks for the informative video.
@bobbarker14
@bobbarker14 5 жыл бұрын
I use Versa winders from Amazon for my 4 automatics. They have four different TPD settings - 350, 650, 850, 1050. All of my watches require 650 TPD for continued use. I use my Orient power reserve watch to give a loose approximation of how wound the other watches that I haven't been wearing are. When power reserve is at or close to max I switch all of my winders down to 350 TPD. When it's down to 25% power reserve, I switch them back to 650 TPD. It's not much work and I enjoy actively engaging them every couple of days, they never need to be reset and they are not continually maxed out on winding. I'm not endorsing Versa, BTW. I've had mine for a little less than a year and so far they haven't broken. No idea how long they'll last beyond that.
@nevahenuf
@nevahenuf 5 жыл бұрын
So my drill and zip ties should just be used for interrogations and not winding watches?
@joninawhitecoat
@joninawhitecoat 5 жыл бұрын
It's fine, just take it steady
@nathanwalker6360
@nathanwalker6360 5 жыл бұрын
Name, Rank n number Soldier!!
@nobody46820
@nobody46820 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer a weed wacker.
@grandmasterotis
@grandmasterotis 4 жыл бұрын
@@nobody46820 Bolol!!!
@Niko-xz5lk
@Niko-xz5lk 4 жыл бұрын
Literally laughed out laud reading that 😆
@snakepitsam
@snakepitsam 5 жыл бұрын
i put my casio f91w in a watchwinder, now its a richard mille
@LuckyTaze
@LuckyTaze 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always! Very helpful especially for someone young like me trying to understand this passion just that bit better!
@kristiantangen9563
@kristiantangen9563 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for (yet) a very helpful video. I was just about to buy a relatively cheap winder, but now I think I’ll leave it all together. Thumbs up!
@wikster6630
@wikster6630 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Wolf Heritage 270402 a month ago before coming across this video. It has extra storage on top for additional watches or straps. Glad I made the choice based on your recommendation in this video. I believe it has 900 turns a day along with an alternate direction setting and a 12 hour delay option as well. Always have it set with the 12 hour delay. Seiko Sarb033 and Citizen NB3010-52A currently. Love your channel and thanks for all the advice you pass along!
@mwade6982
@mwade6982 Жыл бұрын
Great advice. My son got me a Wolf for Christmas 2 years ago and I haven’t appreciated how good they are until now.
@jonathanl2748
@jonathanl2748 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video with real usable info for the watch enthusiast. I’m certain that most folks can learn something from this video. Thank you!
@tonyphillips8726
@tonyphillips8726 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video answered all of my questions.
@craigbrady73
@craigbrady73 6 ай бұрын
That's just told me exactly what I needed to know in one short video. Thanks. Great channel by the way, love your style of videos. 👍
@CJinSoCal
@CJinSoCal 5 жыл бұрын
very informative 😊 thanks for making a video about this! not too many people think sharing the importance of a good watch winder
@freddie8354
@freddie8354 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, was thinking myself of asking about your watch winder and if it is recommended or not. As always great informative video.
@roberthiers5606
@roberthiers5606 5 жыл бұрын
TGV, I have six Wolf double winders. I agree with you they are the best. (quiet, use both batteries and electrical, rotate both directions, and look great.) The reason for double is that allows me to stack them in my safe for a week at a time, running on batteries. Especially when I am gone for an extended period of time. Since most of my collection are annual and perpetual calendars(As you see me wearing a Patek 5205R-001) it behooves me not to let any one of them stop. From most of my research, there is no evidence that quality watch winders wear watches out quicker or extend the life of the watch.
@robertjschroff6307
@robertjschroff6307 5 жыл бұрын
Hello TGV! Great to see you again! Thanks for sharing your advices about such an important subject like this. I haven’t used any watch - winder yet. Once my watches stop, I manually set and wind them before use them again and actually have been trying to keep them work mostly, however that can easily happen, they stop once or twice a week. Best regards, Robert 🤝🙂✋
@pyeclam
@pyeclam 5 жыл бұрын
While I would like to get Wolf watch winder, it costs more than most of my watches.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly true, but sometimes, like a good pair of dress shoes or a suit, a little more can last a life time. Or go with a cheap winder and just be sure not to let the watch sit on it too long. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@xnxn-dr5lz
@xnxn-dr5lz 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video. Thanks.
@ussling
@ussling 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen comments on other anti-winder videos comparing a constantly running watch to a car that is never turned off. The mechanical forces inside the watch are so light all the moving parts can be stopped with the tip of a toothpick. The forces inside a car motor and transmission are so tremendous and need constant lubrication. Quartz watches have gears to move the hands, and those watches run constantly for years until the battery runs out. I have a Timex that is still going since I bought it in 2011, stopping long enough to have the battery changed every few years. I bought a 2007 Breitling SuperOcean six months ago. I did not know the history of the watch. It had to go back to the watch shop for a problem. The watch was sent to Breitling Connecticut for repair, and while there it received a complete service. All this was covered under the watch shop's warranty, so now I have a new old watch. I learned the watch is wound in both directions. My Breitling goes into an inexpensive but well-built winder at night, and rotates clockwise for four minutes, rests for twenty six, rotates counter clockwise for four minutes, rests for twenty six, etc. until I take the watch out in the morning. The Breitling is happy.
@joshuabudd622
@joshuabudd622 5 жыл бұрын
This is great video, I've been looking for a watch winder and now I know which to get :)
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear I could could help. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@chlorophyllthirdy2238
@chlorophyllthirdy2238 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video quality, TGV. More videos on tips !!! How should one store their several watches ?
@scorerbreaker
@scorerbreaker 5 жыл бұрын
Love this series, keep it coming sir! Onward and upward!! HWU
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you HWU, so glad to hear that and from you, it means a lot. I hope you are well sir! Best regards, TGV
@TomReinerDE
@TomReinerDE 5 жыл бұрын
They make sense if you have complications such as moonphase or eternal calendars, when it takes you a long time to get them dialed in correctly after the watch has stopped.
@ironmic9244
@ironmic9244 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have that issue. But I just wind them up 10-20 turns at the end of the night. It's a practice now that is also very therapeutic.
@nikouai
@nikouai 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that unscrewing the crown every night to wind the watch is what bothers me. Most of my watches are dive watches so it’s inevitable. That’s the only reason I’m checking out watch winders
@beluwuga
@beluwuga 3 жыл бұрын
you meant perpetual.
@tw2210
@tw2210 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always!
@Hamburgerdad
@Hamburgerdad 5 жыл бұрын
I got myself a cheap watchwinder a couple years ago. Lasted about 2 months before it failed. I didn't have any problems with overwinding as I was able to set the amount of turns per hour, but it is well worth getting a nice one like the one you recommend instead. Having a plastic one that dies after 2 months is just not worth it! Thanks for the overview!
@jeremyletran5386
@jeremyletran5386 5 жыл бұрын
TGV...I was about to ask you about watch winders and how you maintain all your automatic watches but you answered them here. Thank you very much! Love your channels! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@Jacob-he9hb
@Jacob-he9hb 5 жыл бұрын
Bought a Spaceview from your recommended Ebay seller and i have to say its now my favorite watch of my small collection! Keep up the amazing work my friend!
@PowerControl
@PowerControl 5 жыл бұрын
I tried to find out who this seller is...
@stevenc8054
@stevenc8054 5 жыл бұрын
I am my watch winder .., How do I know if I'm high-end .?
@SkilfulLeader1
@SkilfulLeader1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks TGV, perfect timing because this has been a big mine field for me. Just getting into ever so addictive hobby and wanting to look after my few automatics but didn’t want to get stung with huge brand costs so used the old faithful amazon, over researched and found something that seems to be working perfectly with alternate rotating 6m then 26m rest an repeat. I have some Hamilton’s & certina’s with different calibre movement but by no means crazy expensive and hopefully this wont over work the mechanics, but to be sure I’ll only use them for small periods and still allow the watch to rest.. all the best an keep up the great work sir. 👍
@macauleyroman2311
@macauleyroman2311 Жыл бұрын
Link??
@peacemaker514
@peacemaker514 4 жыл бұрын
this has helped me a lot. i wasn't really sure what i should get for a winder. so thank you
@kindface
@kindface 4 ай бұрын
Nice tip. Thanks !
@AirbusWHU
@AirbusWHU 5 жыл бұрын
Evening TGV - always been interested in the concept of watch winders. Cheers for this!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@samkowalski392
@samkowalski392 5 жыл бұрын
Bought a stowa marine 36 for my first watch after watching your unboxing and I love it! Thank you for sharing it helping me find such a beautiful watch.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Wunderbar! As they would say, I will wear mine tomorrow in your honor. Thank you Sam, enjoy it. Best regards, TGV
@joeplatz7289
@joeplatz7289 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I would say though that there are many other decent winders than Wolf and even cheap winders can be used safely. The key to to find out the watch's ideal turns per day (TPD) and use the winders built in settings and/or a timer so as not to wind beyond that number.
@hiyukelavie2396
@hiyukelavie2396 4 жыл бұрын
Paused the video to comment this, about watch winders over winding your watch Hang on, if a watch winder can over wind your mechanical watch, does that mean wearing your watch the whole day when it's already fully wound also over winds it? Because it's essentially the same thing isn't it? The watch winder winds your watch by moving it, and when you wear your watch you are also winding it by moving it
@Csibu89
@Csibu89 3 жыл бұрын
but you aren't moving it constantly 24hours a day. that's the point of the video. you rest, just like your watch. not every winder considers this fact, hence they aren't as good as for example the Wolf one that TGV recommended.
@caseywai
@caseywai 5 жыл бұрын
Very short sweet and easy to understand. Thanks TGV
@ricardochaveste7367
@ricardochaveste7367 5 жыл бұрын
I don't own watch winder so I'm safe, I like to wind them my self every time I wear them, so like you said a won't damage the watch, Thank you my friend great advice 👍✌🤟 have a wonderful weekend love the explorer nice piece...
@ants1516
@ants1516 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video TGV, I salute you
@jeffm6100
@jeffm6100 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the tips. Leads me to a conclusion that if a watch is in your rotation you should have a good idea of it’s power reserve and know to wind it when needed. If it’s not in your rotation, store it and plan to reset it when you’re ready to wear it again.
@rumporridge1
@rumporridge1 5 жыл бұрын
Was told by a very reputable NYC watchmaker (affiliated with Sotheby’s Auctions) not to use winders. Just occasionally wind your watch when not in use. However was told to use an appropriate winder for perpetual annual calendar watches.
@cwb8047
@cwb8047 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all that you do. I really do appreciate your calm level headed approach to Horology. Watches are such a personal and dear item to those of use that collect them. To me it doesn't matter what you collect, only that you love what you collect. Mine make me happy, I care so much about them. They represent the most valuable thing we all have which is time. It's more precious than Gold, Diamonds or Jewels. You can buy more of it at any price. So to me a device that keeps me aware of my time and how it goes by me, is priceless. Thank you again Craig
@adamdavis2132
@adamdavis2132 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so very pleased to have found this channel.
@christophertrapp4195
@christophertrapp4195 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you on a Wolf Designs winder. The module 2.0 is absolutely brilliant. The only watch I'm hesitant to put on it is my early 50's Omega Seamaster with the cal. 342 bumper movement. In order to wind properly, it needs an oscillating or swinging motion rather than the perfect spin of a winder. Parts are so scarce and the pendulum action is so violent, it's probably for the best that it gets rest when I'm not wearing it.
@alexm2113
@alexm2113 5 жыл бұрын
Love the GIAJ series! Also the sound quality with your new mic is vastly improved TGV!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! I EQ-ed the hell out of it. My old engineering skills came back to help I guess. Best regards, TGV
@alexm2113
@alexm2113 5 жыл бұрын
@@theurbangentry Old? Do you not do sound anymore as your day-job? I think a "Get to know TGV" video is due! I miss the days when you'd talk about your job, workout routines, etc.
@jpzro3158
@jpzro3158 5 жыл бұрын
Always informative.
@Leidernes
@Leidernes 5 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one that absolutely loves the Chronoswiss shown in the watchwinder? This one is just pure class. And Chronoswiss is one of the first brands i really knew because my dad owns a Chronoswiss Lunar for over 10 years. Juts glad to see one in your video!
@16hamberth
@16hamberth 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your advice. I have a watch winder which rotates clockwise and anticlockwise but also making stops regularly. Additionally, I am available to set the speed or turns per minute. What should be the best rotation speed?
@nickbyrne1962
@nickbyrne1962 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative - thank you ))
@rkillalea6706
@rkillalea6706 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video, was gona buy a 2 watch winder on gear best, thought they all did the same job.. keep up the good work governor
@omax1023
@omax1023 5 жыл бұрын
Wind your watch before bedtime, and change your mind about what to wear the following morning! Lol.... I'm my watch winder and keeper, I will let it die out on my watch!!! Lol, great video!
@ENCwwe
@ENCwwe 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this before buying a watch winder. Really like this new series.
@allsportsexpert
@allsportsexpert 4 жыл бұрын
How he stretches a 1-minute video into a 7:24 is nothing short of amazing. Rambling after rambling and then more rambling.
@sturmvogel6830
@sturmvogel6830 6 ай бұрын
The video is very useful. Thank you. Now you got a new subscriber 🤝
@crispytheone88
@crispytheone88 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to all of this, and have a few automatics, Seiko's mostly, that said one of the first pieces of advice I got was to let your watch wind down and rest, it does not take to much time to do the Seiko shake and set the time, and your watch will last longer. Good video.
@TimMSUK
@TimMSUK 5 жыл бұрын
Not just Wolf, if you're in the UK have a look at Barrington winders. Love my 2 watch winder, you can program various amounts of turns per day and change the direction of rotation and even lighting from a remote control or the unit itself. Very nearly totally silent too.
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 5 жыл бұрын
For some unknown reason they followed me on instagram last week lol
@lanceuppercut7436
@lanceuppercut7436 5 жыл бұрын
Hi TGV. You’re looking very well. I considered purchasing a watch winder, but then I realised, I really enjoy not only wearing and admiring my watches, but I also really enjoy the process of setting and winding them too. Whether it be using the ‘Seiko shuffle’ or a bit of a hand wind to get them going, it’s all enjoyable interaction with my treasured time pieces, so I decided against a winder. Onwards and upwards to the Gentry.
@mattfinish2196
@mattfinish2196 5 жыл бұрын
Good info. AND I LOVED THAT ENDING!!!!!
@tonypower9315
@tonypower9315 3 жыл бұрын
I got one for you if you ever see this. As a noob I thought a watch winder just replaced you/ your arm in keeping the watch moving naturally so it didn’t stop. Which now asks two questions. Either , 1 watch winders are crap and over wind you watch and potentially lead to failure or a shortened life. I mean who would put there watch in a spinning washing machine! Or 2, watch winders are ok like the one you mentioned and are the same as real time on the wrist. Which means the watch makers are pulling one over us as the watches are gonna break and fail under normal use anyway even the ridiculously over priced Rolex!!! Which is it? Your on the spot new fella....haha you started it!
@savvylifestrategies9445
@savvylifestrategies9445 5 жыл бұрын
I like your short videos that focus on specific topics. With regard to watch winders, I have one but don't use it. If I'm in a hurry, I grab my Apple watch or a quartz watch. When I want to wear one of my automatics, I just wind it and set it off of my phone. it takes about a minute :-)
@edwingomez9308
@edwingomez9308 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode. THANK YOU !! I was about to make the wrong purchase. Thanks again !!
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 5 жыл бұрын
Don't automatics have a "clutch" to prevent over-winding? I thought you didn't even have to worry about hand winding an auto due to its ability to slip.
@mosfet500
@mosfet500 5 жыл бұрын
@gjaddajgYou're wrong. Nothing significantly happens to the watch once it is wound to a specific point, the winder simply can't create the forces to wind the mainspring any further. The benefit is that the watch, on the wrist, is always optimally wound and has less effect from isochronism. Which watchmakers hate winders?
@archibaldthearcher
@archibaldthearcher 5 жыл бұрын
@@mosfet500 As you said, clutch will prevent it from overwinding so maybe some very cheap and old automatic watches can be damaged by being overwind by winder (need to open my soviet watches to check if they got clutch). The only real damage caused by winders can be done to rotor bearing. Its the heftiest bearing in the watch but it is still designed for certain lifespan, having in mind specific amount of rotations. If your winder rotates all day long it will surely rotate rotor more times than it would by average amount of movement done by hands for 10-18 hours a day. If its double the amount you will roughly cut your bearing lifespan by half and so on
@mosfet500
@mosfet500 5 жыл бұрын
​@@archibaldthearcher Watches don't have clutches. Even in a modern manual watch the main spring isn't physically attached to the barrel. When the watch gets to a specific point the mainspring slips in the barrel preventing over winding. Automatic watches have this too but, again, the winder never creates enough force to reach that point. The beauty is that the watch is always wound optimally, in fact I think Rolex even said that once in their advertising. As far as bearings, under these stresses they just don't wear out. Tesla says their motor bearings, under considerable stress, will last over a million miles. Ball bearings are ridiculously durable products, they changed the machine world and it's no surprise that we bombed Germany's ball bearing factories during WWII. I've never seen worn out autowinder bearings.
@TheOwlGuy777
@TheOwlGuy777 5 жыл бұрын
The mainspring is just friction fit in the barrel and constant winding will cause it to drag around the edge and wear the barrel out. The spring isn't allowed to unwind either.
@SuperBeemerGuy
@SuperBeemerGuy 4 жыл бұрын
If you are a bit obsessed about “over-winding” your watch, plug the winder into a clock-timer which can be set to turn the winder on and off at any interval you feel is appropriate. I feel this is analogous to a float charger I keep connected to my car or motorcycle lead-acid batteries when those vehicles are in storage. A float charger by nature is supposed to only keep the battery “topped off”, but never over charge which can boil away the electrolyte. Those household clock-timers are an inexpensive enhancement to several kinds of battery storage solutions, and definitely extend the useful life of vehicle batteries.
@The01t
@The01t 5 жыл бұрын
TGV you are a legend, I always seek your advice first regarding watches I always wondered about watch winders and now I've seen this video. All quality stuff.
@The01t
@The01t 5 жыл бұрын
@gjaddajg It's a difficult one if you have more than one automatic especially expensive ones. Damaging over time sucks but you also can't just keep wearing each to wind it. When a automatic stops ticking does it damage it or is it ok to keep it inactive?
@christfollower1768
@christfollower1768 3 жыл бұрын
I see it as an excellent investment especially since one winder can serve all of your watches ..... a small percentage of one watch to get a high end single winder is a no brainer used appropriately ...... Excellent video 👊🇺🇸😎
@danielburke9980
@danielburke9980 Жыл бұрын
Getting a wolf watchwinder thrown in with my green Seamaster later. Wasn’t sure whether I should use it…this video has been so helpful!
@davidmichienzi101
@davidmichienzi101 5 жыл бұрын
TGV, I have never owned a watch winder. I like to wear my watches for a while then let them relax. Great video Sir 👍🇮🇹😊⌚😉
@CyberSammael
@CyberSammael 2 жыл бұрын
Same with me. I let my watches rest when I dont wear them. It seems the only real advantage to a winder is not having to set the time/date each morning, but I enjoy that so I dont think I will ever need a winder.
@freesneaky
@freesneaky 5 жыл бұрын
Good advice here TGV. I think watch winders could be very useful for watches with moonphase and calendar complications. My moonphase and calendar watches are basically time only watched with pretty looking dial since I only set the time when I wear them.
@DarktroopX
@DarktroopX 5 жыл бұрын
I have a cheap winder from Amazon. You can select both rotation directions, or alternating option. I can also select between 4 different settings - number of rotations per day, 350, 650, 850 and 1050, plus an option to turn on light during its function. It was around 90 USD and for that price I think it is a steal. I use to wind-up my "work watch", because I am using it only couple of days in the week.
@miaafz
@miaafz 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there always love to watch tour videos, very informative and very well shot. I have 4 automatic watches. Longines hydro conquest, oris aquis, tissot visodate and a new omega seamaster planet ocean 600m. Which watch winder would you recommend and are they reliable as I don't want to damage the watches.
@donnybnyc
@donnybnyc 5 жыл бұрын
My winder is programmable re rotations/minute and also alternates rotation direction. Brand is "Paul Design"
@IglooGaming1775
@IglooGaming1775 5 жыл бұрын
This video is much appreciated TGV as I have been pondering whether or not to pull the trigger on a watch winder. I believe I wear my Seiko SNXS77 often enough so I don’t think I’ll be getting one anytime soon but maybe when I get another automatic I’ll take that leap.
@heikowallauer
@heikowallauer 5 жыл бұрын
Hello TGV, I dig the Colareb strap on your Explorer. How does it wear in warmer weather? Can you recommend it as a alternativ to leather for the coming summer?
@kjeldpedersen666
@kjeldpedersen666 5 жыл бұрын
Hi TGV Didn’t know about this problem with over winding. Logical if you think about it... I also have just a couple of watches in use at a time - one for work purposes and another for my spare time. The others are resting - after all you are wearing the movement when you use the watch. But it’s important to have them up & running every now and then, keeping the oils floating. Keep up the good work👍
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely my friend. You sound very much like me in that regard. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
@mrg1911
@mrg1911 5 жыл бұрын
Wearing an Explorer 214270 here as I view your great video. Great stuff, thanks!
@M.Hashem01
@M.Hashem01 3 жыл бұрын
I personally never use winders. A lot of people feel they do no damage, but as you said, there is the potential of over winding. But I always view a movement for what it is, a machine. And like all machines we will never escape wear and tear. When not in motion, it can’t create wear🍻
@joekelsch8366
@joekelsch8366 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could over wind a watch! Really appreciate this information.
@ricksousa9480
@ricksousa9480 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously I had no idea, Thank you a ton.
@geomancer6371
@geomancer6371 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. If you wear your watch everyday, isn't that overwinding it?
@joekelsch8366
@joekelsch8366 5 жыл бұрын
@@geomancer6371 lol I had that same thought! But we all sleep eventually. So that's some inactivity
@FirstLast-lz6cu
@FirstLast-lz6cu 5 жыл бұрын
You can't really. All modern automatic watches have a clutch that prevents overwinding. Nonetheless, if you're not wearing a watch for a long period, you're still better off letting it sit still because the gears will have wear from being in constant motion (the same amount of wear if you wore the watch daily) Edit: still though, if you're going to get a winder, get one that has a timer. The clutch that prevents over winding is meant more for wrist use and could still wear out faster if it is winding 24/7
@josepha5
@josepha5 5 жыл бұрын
Great reviews, Great channel. Hope all ia well. Have you ever purchased a watch from Creation watches? Just curious to see how they are... Thx
@alexlevy
@alexlevy 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a Boxy and I’m very happy with it so far. Whisper quiet and dozens of different settings for rotations per day and it’s bi-directional. Do you have any experience with it? I’m using it for my Zenith El-Primero Open.
@JP-qb6mp
@JP-qb6mp Жыл бұрын
Hello , quick question pls , I have an Oris GMT and Hamilton Khaki Aviation Xwind , both automatic,reading manuals apparently you cannot overwind them , what is your opinion , is it ok for me to stick it in the watch winder with a rest setting on? Automatic mechanism apparently you cannot overwind , am I getting this right ? Please advise ,thanks for your feedback
@sharon.d7291
@sharon.d7291 2 жыл бұрын
I love watches, I currently have a diamond Dior a Diamond Tag formula 1 and a Tag Carrera, I’m now purchasing the Breitling diamond Chronomat 36 which brought me here reviewing the Wolf winder, thanks for the upload some great information!
@watchbrocephus
@watchbrocephus 5 жыл бұрын
Very Good! Great information on winders. That wall of winders is a bit much lol! Whatever floats one's boat :) Best Regards Stuart
@masterdad-zf9po
@masterdad-zf9po 2 күн бұрын
Wolf winders 👍🏻. I’ve used them for a decade or more on my watches. I’ve never had an issue with them. I rotate my watches generally once a week so absent a winder I’d be resetting my watches every time I change them (not a huge issue for watches with few complications, but a big deal for watches with many complications). It’s great to just be able to switch out
@supercrazysane
@supercrazysane 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid and just answered my question re winder or no winder and also was considering Wolf. My pride is perhaps the AP Royal Oak 15300ST would you have any recommendations on a specific model of wolf winder for the 3120 movement ?? 🙏
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same orange Wolf winder you have, and it's nice to know it was money well spent. It's also surprisingly quiet, I can have it on my desk perhaps 2 meters away from me as I sleep and not hear it.
@dapoppa2256
@dapoppa2256 5 жыл бұрын
SO TRUE!! I find it is better to keep them in rotation and just wear them more frequently.
@Ghost5vw
@Ghost5vw 5 жыл бұрын
Cristal clear as usual. Thanks.
@saleendriver
@saleendriver 5 жыл бұрын
My collection it split literally down the middle......1/2 are on winders, half in two storage boxes. The ones in the boxes get daily attention, while the winder watches I give a visual inspection....once a week they come out and are adjusted and checked. Been doing this for several years with no failure to the watches. I use only winders from JQueen. They have variable speeds, quiet motors, alternate direction, and are of very good build quality. Price is quite reasonable. Both my father and I uses these winders with great success. And while I won't go into detail about his collection, lets just say ain't no cheap watches there.....and all are on winders. And he has no issues either. Like anything else in watches and in life, if you do something and do it intelligently and pay attention, you'll be rewarded with positive results.
@mrbacchus6127
@mrbacchus6127 5 жыл бұрын
1/2 are on winders? Are these just the Zelos watches? Lol
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you are well and agree with everything you said there TGV. And loving the Explorer/strap combo. Might try that on my 1016 Explorer.
@chandansahoo638
@chandansahoo638 4 жыл бұрын
I have recently purchased my first automatic (Seiko SARY 053 - JDM). Since I do not wear it quite often, it usually stops after 2 days approx. But I am equally skeptical about using a watch winder. Is it okay to keep the automatics at rest and without winding for 10-15 days at a stretch? Genuine suggestions would be appreciated. TIA. ;)
@chriswilson4757
@chriswilson4757 5 жыл бұрын
Hey TGV! Love your vids!!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, you inspire me :D Onwards and upwards, Best regards, TGV
@saijinkai
@saijinkai 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info. I didn’t know and almost bought a cheap one.
@thivolen2061
@thivolen2061 5 жыл бұрын
U deserve a lot more subs for the caliber of content you produce
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