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Hahaha right?!

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

Your living rent free in my brain?

Spot on!

guarantee it.

@@jeremycbarnhart2305 hahah what does that have to do with anything?

@@jeremycbarnhart2305 nah people who want to ban Dr Seuss are the psychos. Control and manipulation.

@@jeremycbarnhart2305 serious, what does that have to do with anything? OP is most likely right. Dude was suffering/struggling with mental health issues, beat and choked his MUCH younger girlfriend (in her teens if you recall) who she herself also had mental health issues and both of them seemingly obsessed with doing vile and unspeakable shit to younger teen girls. In this case, i think its a safe bet that that is exactly how it happened.

@@jeremycbarnhart2305 You weirdo.

I think I read she was in foster care. Her parents were long gone.

@@sarahs2288 Thanks for the information. I was in foster care, and I find myself extra annoyed when foster kids act out. It's like when someone with your name does something super embarrassing. WE DON'T CLAIM HER

I think she was in foster care then went to live with her mom when she was 13. I’m sure that’s what I read in the dad’s book.

Sadly sick things did happen.

@Brandon Stockwell I wasn't lucky. We don't claim her

She’s already out

So sad

sarcastically, of course

Epic pimp skills.

Well it seems more like Nathan's teasing drove her to anorexia, at least that's the impression I got.

Yes, 23 yr old’s can be A-holes too.

that's a good point!

Fucking spoiler alert

@@KenoshaKicker That's why you watch the video first. The purpose of the comment section is for those who watched it to give their thoughts on what they watched.

Who reads a comment section to a crime channel and then complains about spoilers 😂

@@86sineadw plus, it's obviously who was involved by showing their faces and background story

I feel bad for them... Horrible

I think it would depend on her reaction, if she was one of those mums who swear their kid is innocent it would definitely be over

I bet they didn't remain married

@@LindaBarham there’s actually an interview with then both showing that they have remained married. Apparently the crime didn’t affect their commitment to each other. Unsure if they are supportive towards Nathan or have disowned him.

Nice

You made my night better, thanks :)

Shame she had to be resuscitated

hopefully they finish what they started before she gets out.

Murderers should be listed as DNR...

Yeah, you gotta be one sick puppy to be able to carry that out.

For real. Good call. I dont understand how someone can just do that.

Unless you’re a medical student or mortician

*desperation*

Especially when they are you're family

I’m so sorry for your family.

My condolences to you and your family. Mike is always respectful to the victims in these stories and I'm glad to hear he represented everyone in the proper manor. Although justice may not have been rightfully served with Shauna.

I’m so sorry for your loss. Such a senseless crime. She was a beautiful girl.

sorry for your loss

I am sorry for your loss. Best wishes from Oregon, USA.

I used to be the same, it got a bit better but... I am still very grateful when a friend orders my food in a restaurant. I prefer texting to calling and rarely pick up a call at all. I order everything online except of groceries (yet)...

It’s not something I can understand AT ALL. I’m glad I never had a child who suffers from this because I’d probably be impatient and mean to them. I can hear myself screaming “SHAPE UP! GROW UP!! What the hell is the matter with you??” I guess because I was the opposite. Orphaned by 12 and very precocious and independent.

@@ClaireBeatty Please, don’t have children. I feel for them if you do.

@@Johnieboi No worries, I don’t and am way past having any.

Yea, I was institutionalized at 14 for panic attacks, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety and acute depression. I've been on meds ever since. It's really helped a LOT.

Fully agree

I love your comment! So true😁

Yesssssssss

Underrated comment for sure and I fully agree 💯

And everyone outside the US. 😉

He has been disfigured by other inmates who burned his face with boiling butter and sugar. He asked for surgery and it was denied. Also shauna has been beaten twice to almost death. Whilst inside.

@@puccipuu1797 don’t wanna sound like an asshole but they deserve it

@@puccipuu1797 whatttt

Yeah it’s pretty disgusting. True monsters

17 years for murder! What a joke

I think she wanted to self destruct. In a weird way, she was killing her own young, innocent self. She was groomed and victimized too. It’s all a shame. The parents should not have ever allowed their grown son so be with a child. They’re to blame as well.

To be fair if you read the book about this, you will learn that when brought Shaunna home his dad was very upset and would not allow him to bring her into the house or be anywhere near the house untill she was older.

@@brendashorten I think Becky was seen as “the other woman” by her and was always resented by him for being “off limits” (since we know he’s a pedo, is incest really unrealistic?)

@@redwoodtrail great comment

No. is just common sense. The father was an a/hole

no! Its the way of this twisted world..

That poor girl must have been so terrified.

Or jealousy? The younger child sometimes get more attention

Same!

I don't think he ever wanted to teach her anything. He only used that to make himself look "better" I think. Such a sicko.

That is an embedded confession. He wanted her sexually its plainly obvious judging by his "type". If she was not receptive to his advances he would likely take it very hard, being the narc he clearly is. He just didnt like how she treated him with disgust as he was trying to groom her (in my opinion)

Let's not mention him stabbing her 15 times.

Well... he was lying about that part. His only goal was to make her his unwilling sex toy and then murder her. He just made up the rest because he got caught.

@@BunnaySango he

Not that British though, just Southern English. In Northern England it wouldn't be like that at all

I was a bully and was bullied. I've had my head kicked in plenty of times. a lesson to all bullies out there, your gonna get your head kicked in someday somehow and nobody will give a shit! Rightfully so.

Treat others how you wanna be treated. An eye for an eye

@@SlimeBlueMS what about "bad" people?

@@christopherryan6111 you know what they say there's always someone bigger and badder than you. Every dog has his day

@@BosoxPatsfan603 You're damn right but it's more about getting what you deserve. Unfortunately it doesn't always work out that way. World would be a better place if it did.

She's going to be up for parole in a couple of years.

@@nodiggity9472 served 6 years out of 17... quick math says 11 years isn't a couple

It is because of religious nuts that we have this. Also it is because the people as a whole do not speak up against this.

@@PrinceMarcusWilliam your sentence and eligibility for parole aren't the same length, you're able to apply for parole shortly before you've served half your sentence.

@@DeViLzzz2006 not it isnt

Awful stuff

@@Cyanapanasati those European sentences are better for instances where somebody kills someone in a fight or anything that's"heat of the moment". When it's killing a teenage girl because you want to kill a teenage girl; that's one of the only times the US prison system gets it right.

@@Cyanapanasati You should see in Colombia, look up the monster of Cañaduzales, raped and killed like 20 boys and his sentence was a joke.

@@Cyanapanasati oh a lot of UK citizens hate the soft sentences for people like this. It's complicated though. Tbh it may alter after the EU split because often times the EU courts would intercede on behalf of criminals for their rights and whatnot.

@@IggyTheBalrog The UK isn't EU anymore, so what's stopping them now?

Ms Hoare's smirk said a lot

Yup anyone directly involved should get the exact same sentence the only thing that should mitigate it is if they turn themselves in and admit it before being caught. Showing remorse before being caught is the only remorse I believe is real rather than remorse that they're going to prison.

Agree. They sort of remind me of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka wannabes. If they'd have gotten away with this one murder I think there would have been so many more considering she was literally looking for girls to please him. I think it's a possibility they'd have gone on to lure young girls to their home, use them then dispose of them. Sick twisted pair. Rip Becky.

Generally women always get lighter sentences than men. it's just the way the world works.

@@jimmym3352 Well, women don't commit as many horrific crimes as men.

@@Serithe I think he was saying the women who *do* commit the same kind of horrific crimes as men generally get lighter sentences. I've never really looked into it so I don't know either way. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I have suffered social anxiety my whole life… most people will never come close to understanding what it feels like inside.. I hope it gets better for you.. I have learned personally for me it’s how I was born, I can’t change it.. I just try to put my faith in God..

FOS

it's called agoraphobia and I suffer too. I take meds too but rarely travel alone. It starts to get better hun when you're older because then you just don't give a Shiite about what's going on. I'm 54 now and it's getting better. I hope you will one day too. 😘

I have social anxiety too but it really is mind over matter, my brain goes a million miles a minute in public places and I feel anxiety throughout my whole body, but you have to just push through it, you can’t live your life like that, you only get 1 and you don’t know when it’s going to end. I recommend ashwaghanda, absolutely destroys my anxiety and doesn’t have all the negatives of hardcore pharmaceuticals. Also meditation. The best thing I can do is workout hard so my testosterone is high, then cold shower and my brain is entirely present/ no anxious thoughts. Also no fap helped me a lot, seemed like a lot of my symptoms were from watching porn. Just don’t give up and listen to a diagnose, there’s so much you can change and do to feel better

Yeah...you have to be really twisted to do something like that.

Yep, that's because you're a normal person with a normal working brain. You actually have empathy and care for other human beings. Something these two sick freaks who did this horrible crime are completely devoid of. RIP Becky.

Don’t think I could ever sleep again! Horrific!

@The Slap pleasant? somehow you seem to use the word "pleasant" in the wrong context here. A took ache isn't pleasant , falling from your bicycle isn't pleasant, having a sun burn isnt pleasant.. But cutting someone into pieces is on a whole different level then unpleasant buddy. More in the category of, If you can actually take a saw and grind trough the bones/skin/ligaments of a "not so shortly before" living individual (which undoubtable is insanely hard and requires plenty of effort, thus time to constantly be confronted with the horror of it and what you are doing ) and eventually reach the neck and head of someone while looking at it uuuuuGGgghhhhHHHh (just the idea of it somehow reduces my sanity to that of a goldfish) you are next level bat shit crazy bud. But hey there is all sort of full blown mindless, emotionless, no moral nutcase folks out there. So yeah i hear YOU when you say "not so pleasant" and just happy we we are not related ;)

@The Slap Are you kidding me? Do you know what you said!? prior to my reply!? You blatantly divulged that you could not do away with a body unless you ( in your own words) "much better chance if you divide into sections and dispose of slowly over the course of a couple of days. Inconspicuous like." Soooo my response to that is! Why would you even do something like that?? And in that i try and draw to you a picture of how grotesque your "VERY unpleasant" reply to me was if full detail. But like i said you obviously put some thought into it ( it would not even cross my mind, how to get or even get rid of a body) I hope you are aware of what you said at first, and how nonchalant that sounded to us people, who, where the thought of getting rid of a body wouldn't even cross our minds.

Agreed ! Shauna is as sick and twisted as him tho to be fair 🤮

It's sick that the liberals think age is also fluid. A man can be a woman, a 20 year old can be a 14 year old... if they just believe hard enough, that's what they are.... very sick.

@@BornIn1500 No one believes in age-fluidity. That's a smear campaign created by alleged conservatives.

Yep

@@tinamcleod3928 agreed

Sorry to hear that

Doesn't matter what people think my friend

I hope you're doing better now. Good luck in life!

Oh things are much better. I have gotten over my social anxiety for the most part and don't have these issues at all anymore. I am lucky in that I was able to deal with it.

I am extremely shy and avoid large social gatherings. I also don’t talk a lot and people mistake that for me being a jerk.

I’d like this comment again if possible

I’m pretty sure he did one on this case a while ago but it’s not still up. I definitely watched a video about this murder on a similar channel before. They used sleep deprivation on Nathan. He had some disgusting comment about not wanting something about the case to be read. Total narcissist.

I feel like I remember the JCS guy's voice narrating something about the sexual sadism of those two. I think he did make a video and took it down

@@gouchscowl8601 I did it for you. I did know about JCS until your comment. Thank you

If you support JCS on Patreon you can see a very in depth video on this case.

You mean nicer as in abduction to the woods? And that's already the delusional down-played version of his exemplary behavior XD

Someone who is void of compassion, ethics, and decency towards their fellow people. However, they do possess these qualities when it involves their "own" person. These types are in of themselves a paradox.

I also wonder how these personalities don't show one way or another. I mean how the people around them don't see there is a monster living next to them. They don't show any indication, they don't give any clue? I really wonder this.

@@burcua631 Its horrifying

Many "things" have done this. Ever heard of the profession of a "butcher"? Right. There's where your sausages and stakes come from, my friend. Enjoy your meal.

@@oliveryt7168 I sure will. Because I don't think of humans when I eat meat. Do you?

An entitled misogynistic pervert

Lmao

Let’s play a game 💀 😂

😂😂

fr🤣

canada Young offenders act = fresh start clean record once you turn 18.

@@christopheremerson2474 it’s in England

Life in prison is many times not life in prison in these so called civilized nations so what is needed is the death penalty. The religious nuts need to stop protesting against it. I was religious but had enough common sense to know these people need to be rid of so the world is a better place possibly. Heck I am tired of drunk drivers getting away with killing people too. If you know what you did is wrong then you should suffer the ultimate consequence of that. These people here knew what they did was wrong.

@@DeViLzzz2006 in the USA... It's often "anti religious" people that protest the death penalty lol. Funny how it can be totally backwards elsewhere!

@@DeViLzzz2006 I find in the US it's normally people that aren't religious that are against the death penalty. I go back and forth on the death penalty - I think for certain horrendous crimes then ya I want that person to suffer and die, but is that just letting my emotions decide? At the same time, who are we to decide who lives and who dies? Not to mention the number of innocent people that have been put to death on false charges - how many innocent lives are worth it to put some of the guilty to death? Many would say even the loss of one innocent life is reason enough to abolish the death penalty. Also, death row inmates cost tax payers far more than inmates charged with life in prison. It's definitely a complicated topic, and not as simple as "you did bad thing, you get death."

@Nuke Ireland I was thinking about them 2 monsters they used to live across the road from me sick bastards

@Nuke Ireland Sometimes I wonder if evil people leave something of themselves behind in a place, something just waiting to attach itself to the next person who matches them in terms of malice, cruelty and narcissism. Much as one such person will attach themselves to another out of both common ground and the use they have for them.

@@teslagirl1 Well there's a discernable difference in the smell of human sweat whether it's excreted in fear, during fitness, or fornication. Fibromyalgia is a very common PTSD symptom especially for personality types that have a pathological need for control. So the night sweat emitted from someone white-knuckling his own aggressive impulses and physical manifestations of unaddressed trauma would be a pretty heady blend. Add some fevered rage fapping and a constant almost consuming wash of shame, that house would probably leak misery every time someone boiled water like a smoker in a sauna, the toxins just extruding out the pores. It's not evil but maybe evil's trigger smell, sparking an epigenetic memory in the olfactory bulbs, signaling to someone's more lizard-minded ancestor that the world is back in survival mode and every hominid is out for themselves. Or hurt people hurt and if there's any shred of conscience left in them they're begging for an excuse to rid themselves of the uninstructed pain. P.S. Why did Jared Kushner buy 666 Fifth Ave when it had such a grim financial forecast? Is this the megalomaniacal equivalent of a mid-life crisis Porsche? Well at least the devil's gettin it done in Isreal, should have known it'd take a deities scapegoat yearning to become the prodigal son, to get the middle east shaking hands.

@@maebandy wow.. crazy comment.. interesting tho!

@@maebandy 😴

Geez I couldn't imagine the shock on the student's face when that happened.

I wish I could understand their English. Englanders always sound like they have marbles in their mouth.

@@robjohnson8861 then you must not be an east coaster 😂

Poor girl such a beauty and she was shy unbelievable!

@@alaskanwolfmom7196 East coast or North Georgia. Really all southern accents are British accents with a little southern honey in it, lol. But North Georgia sounds just like this, only a little slower.

@@robjohnson8861 I live in London and um I don't think it's well nice to say that

It was an accident that he got caught. Without the “accident” of getting caught he would have gotten away with it. It was all just an “accident “.

I always cringe when I hear ‘they accidentally fell and died. I thought if I called 911 I would be blamed.......so I buried them in the woods.’

They literally go limp before they die. That shit is intentional

Hmmmm you speak as though you have a lot of experience in this area .... lol j/k, but no seriously what aren't you telling us?

@@reignman30 lol no I just know about the human body. If u watch like the BTK serial killer talk in court, he said there were multiple times where he would strangle someone and think they were dead, go to the next person in the house, then he would see that the other person woke up. He's not the only one that has said stuff like that. So yeah, it takes way longer than u would think to strangle someone to death.

Obviously

Just a prank, bro!

🤣

I loved that part too....how in the hell do you accidentally strangle someone... pushing them and they die or hitting them and they die, would be accidental but how do you accidentally strangle someone

Obviously, indeed! Even if he hadn’t planned on killing her, the “lesson” he wanted to teach was undoubtedly that he would hurt her if she didn’t comply with his demands. Classic sexual predator. If he ever gets out, he’ll do it again.

This makes me feel so sad

And where the parents, especially the mother of the murder....

@John Ellis One big reason why I live away from home. My uncle and dad have greatly contributed to my self esteem issues, and resulting depression. It's easier to live away from home, no matter how much they don't like the fact that I only come home every couple of weeks.

I thought Mike said it was kids at school that bullied her about her weight?

@@samanthaohora2396 I vaguely remember this case. I remember them saying the half brother were absolutely awful to her

First stop fat shaming seconds stop murder. I can see what you’re doing, it’s not true, stop trying to make a theory of it

@@RaferJeffersonIII so, basically what you are saying is ...we should just start killing fat people? Idk if I can agree with you on that

@@samanthaohora2396 it was a mixture of both but Mike didn't talk about how he always was awful towards her.

Just like Diane Downes who killed her three children. She is still in prison and still says she did nothing.

Pisses me off

@@elizabethhayward570 At least she was charged with murder. This monster got only 17 years for manslaughter!

Kinda makes you want to hurt her, doesn't it? Let's hope her cellmates feel the same.

Only crying bc she got caught.

be a girl > kill somebody together with a man > cry > get your prison term halved

No kidding, an utter travesty. Second to the fact that, well, THE LACES WERE OUT.

@@daisyjane6478 THE LACES WERE IN

But as we are living in the age of the internet....her sentence is life. In fact.... she'll be more miserable outside the structured "society" of prison than in civvy street. Even for the most mundane jobs you need a DBS check. Her life is over...

Why were they putting words in her mouth?

Hey, accidents happen. Some more severe than others. To be more serious, yeah, how can someone even come up with an excuse like that..

@Cynthia Murphy thank you!! TOTAL lack of a moral compass, ughhh

Me too!!

she was so jealous of Becky.

She’s got Karla homolka vibes, for sure

that really gave me the chills, on all the interviews you see her smirking and smiling most likely at the same time re-living everything in hear head and feeling satisfied

Maaaaad female privilege

It’s disgusting how women commenters want to make Shawna a victim because he was supposedly abusive. Why do my fellow women talk about how strong we are (which we are), how capable we are (which we are), but then we also apparently can’t use our brains to know right from wrong when a 🍆 is involved? Nonsense. She’s just as evil as he is and should have gotten the same as Nathan.

Word

ditto!

Me too!

Same

Yep.

Mike is hands down my favorite True Crime KZfaqr. He is amazing.

I agree! Also, nice pfp :P

😍🥰 Exactly!!!💙

Omg I said exactly the same thing to my husband this week when explaining why Mike is my favourite true crime content creator, it's nice to have the cheeky Irish sense of humour to lighten the content a bit but it's always directed at the guilty never the victim.

@@libbyscrapper720 ok

And cover up after while having a good time in the interviews

Nooooo waaaaaaay. You guys saw the interview. She *very clearly* stated she had nothing to do with it. Just look how hard she was thinking when they asked her if she knew anything about it! Way too genuine to be lying.

@@pink_sock She was practicing deception to me.

@@royhunt3773 And that flew over ya head boi

@@rcket6057 No, what's flying over my head is how she's somehow the victim. It's all about perception though, right? Being totally sarcastic!

I noticed that too

Mmmhm, dead giveaway

Yep, first thing that I noticed too.

Oh yeah! When I saw another documentary on this, I thought the same thing. And she stutters after she says it. It's like, "Hello giant red flag." Xo

This doesn’t mean anything. People key in on past tense words too much lol.

You dun fucked up when you kill a pretty white girl...dont ppl know that by now?

@@Scorch428 why bring race into this? Don't be such an idiot

@@iamgroot6965 Because if she were a black dude that got murdered, no one would care.

@@Scorch428 again, this has literally nothing to do with race Stop bringing race into everything

@@Scorch428 You're just trying to cause drama with that BS

So sad. She'd been through so much, and it looked like she was going to be OK, finally. Such a pointless loss.

@Find Truth you’re embarrassing yourself

@Find Truth yeh i'd stop commenting if i were you, weirdo

@Find Truth you know Jesus is a made up story right? Just stop. You’re making a fool of yourself.

@Find Truth you have one source. And it also has talking snakes in it, so...yea. Good luck with that.

I believe he's irish! i just became addicted to this channel like a week ago i love it

It reminds me of that case in Canada where a woman named Karla Homolka and her boyfriend kidnapped her own sister among other girls and tortured her to death. She got way less time than he did, only 12 years, got out and has a family and children. She has the nerve to complain about being "harrassed." The system is incredibly soft on women.

@@INatalkaI thats disgusting

She is a woman you know

Female privilege

@@What11235 🤫

after stabbing them 15 times too😒👀😒

You can tell us. We’re all friends here. 😆

Yeah, me too! 🙄

@@Willam_J Well friends, if I'm being honest, I think I may have a bit of a problem...🤷‍♀️

Right it takes a little while to actually do it

I call bs. Age is just a number.. Of you're a POS, you're a POS. Only a miracle would make you change.

@@oliveryt7168 Age is not just a number. People can change for better or worse over time. And when it comes to a crime like this age definitely played a major role on both ends.

Mainly the absolute stupidity of the murderers too.

Which channels mock 16-year-old, innocent murder victims?

He did kinda, when he said she was there until she wasn’t.

@@katiemary8075 It’s fine to not know what “mocking” means, but you don’t have to publish the fact.

You can mock me after I died cause I won't really care anymore. Actually I would have exchanged all the bullying in school for that mocking after I died.

Can you prove what you're saying?

@@baconbeatles2790 Why should she,can't bring Becky back anyw.Such a sad case,Becky didn't desverve any of this.And from her own "family"Worse thing about being a mother is the worrying part.BTW I assume the chance of someone who knew her/who she was, already has, or will be watching this is pretty high.I didn't know this girl at all, but she seemed like a sweet,likable girl.May she rest easy & peacefully 🌹🕊️🍃🌠🧚🏼‍♀️

@@baconbeatles2790 can you prove you are not an idiot? What an asinine comment. It’s common knowledge that police will search garbage bins, dumpsters, dumps etc.

Cool story bro.

Why do people feel like anyone has to prove something to them. It's like a case of inflated identity. Anyone that thinks they deserve the time of everyone to show proof to them has an ego a mile long.

Lol they didn’t need to they had all the evidence they needed

No. It. Isnt. Why is Everybody bringing this up? Like in many cases... T It's always somebody who will make such claims... It's just language. We live in a world where people talk all kinds of sh1te and don't even know what words mean..

@@oliveryt7168 It's something investigators have seen as a pattern: the people who refer to the person in the past tense - while everyone is still looking for them - tend to be guilty

Yup, when she said "she was", that was a red flag.

Just because they didn't immediately throw it in her face doesn't mean they didn't notice. There's a subtle art to good police interrogation. We only saw like 30 seconds of their interrogations. They likely did bring it up.

Did she have a different last name?

Thanks for posting

@@brittnienichole6 sounds like she must have...?

Right away I thought of the video game.

@@doperagu8471 kinda weird

She seemed so sweet

Same here but they did "it" better? SICK! and Karla really didn't get punished.

Karla is out living a normal life. Got to love justice eh? There is no real justice until it is a life for a life.

@@DeViLzzz2006 no justice in Canada

Ikr? Fred& Rose West, Ian Brady & Maura Hindley were their serial killing couples ancestors.. apparently it's a thing..but thankfully these days it's almost impossible to get away with multiple murders, cos of CCTV & DNA etc..

And the murderers of dear Tori Stafford.

I'm trying to tell people that this is exactly what the leading forces of our realm feed off of injustice and innocence blood shed. The rulers of the matrix or whatever spell they've casted upon us is relentless, brutal, and goes against everything it means to be human.

Shes a woman so it makes sense 🙄 Aka bullshit

@@SubliminalMessagesTV hooahh a fellow who knows thier stuff! Yes the world has become very soft, even in England, the police are doing atrocious things, the cops in the usa would be jealous...

@@alexhallify I feel like people exaggerate how easy they get off (lol)

@@pandogstudios1512 I see what you did there 😂