The Dark Truth When You Reject Mormonism (Eve updates!)

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@caseyjude5472
@caseyjude5472 Ай бұрын
I think the reason these videos are so popular is because Eve is such a wonderful & genuine person who communicates effectively. Being so photogenic doesn’t hurt either.
@joshuaconnelly2415
@joshuaconnelly2415 Ай бұрын
I want something about what the speaker is talking about. She says that there is this great love and friendship, fellowship in the ward family. She said she had this for thirty-three years. She mentioned that losing this genuine love is hard. I’ve been a member for 40 years and have NEVER had fellowship and love save for three friends. I am not white, and that is the reason. This church was built by white people for white people. I was forced into the fringes despite trying desperately for fit in and be accepted. Eventually I accepted my place, grew deeply miserable, then realized that the problem wasn’t me, it’s the church itself, from the top down. So for me, leaving was easy; I had nothing to walk away from. I still cherish my core faith tenets, and we worship at home our way, a way that is meaningful and uplifting. I wish I would have left decades ago, but I’m happy now.
@unicorntamer2207
@unicorntamer2207 Ай бұрын
When I left, no one came looking for me. No "leaving the 99 sheep to go looking for the 1 lost sheep." I was in singles ward at the time. I had 2 visits from my home teachers, 1 visit from my visiting teachers, and that was it. In some ways, it kinda hurt. It showed me how fake the friendships I had were. But I'm kinda glad for it. Less BS to sort through.
@joshuaconnelly2415
@joshuaconnelly2415 Ай бұрын
@unicorntamer2207 , I gave so much to them, and when I left, for nearly 6 months they didn't even notice, and barely flinched when they did. If the love was joyless, the split is painfree!
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 Ай бұрын
I agree. Mormonism never felt like love to me...just duty, discipline, irrationality and unwarranted loyalty.
@richardjohnson4052
@richardjohnson4052 Ай бұрын
When my grandfather died her sons flipped a coin to see who got stuck with grandmother. My father lost. So he brought her to Sedona and built her a Mother-in-Law house in the back yard with a ramp from her house to the main one with daily visits both ways. Later my father's wife died and grandma had to move in with Barney, the mormon son. The entire family tried to convert her and when she refused, they treated her like shit! Her son charged her $650 a month for a bedroom (in the 1980s) plus they charged her for food and laundry. I was in Phoenix and decided to take my kids to meet their grandmother only to find that the entire mormon family had taken off to some church function in another state, leaving her alone. When I arrived, I found she had NO cooked food, just cans she could not open, and her clothes and sheets were dirty (I am being kind as she was sleeping in the same diaper for 3 days. I assigned my kids to play with their great grandmother while my wife washed her clothes and sheets. I found the stove broken and only canned foods on hand with no can opener. I fixed the stove, had my wife make a weeks supply of heat-up meals I managed to open every can she needed, and we labeled each pyrex meal with a magic-marker so she could read the 'how long at what temp' and remained until she fell asleep. A few days later I called my uncle and reamed him out!!!!!! She was his mother and deserved better. His reply was that by rejecting baptism in the church, she had aligned herself with satan and deserved no love or consideration. THAT is the church I grew up with.
@kerrisaint3013
@kerrisaint3013 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but that is horrific.. Breaks my heart knowing how bad church members can inflict harm to others. Christ never harmed anyone.
@llamamama2910
@llamamama2910 Ай бұрын
Did you report him for elder abuse?
@llamamama2910
@llamamama2910 Ай бұрын
Was there a long term solution?
@richardjohnson4052
@richardjohnson4052 Ай бұрын
@@llamamama2910 It was a mormon city with a mormon poice force and a mormon mayor.
@IBNED
@IBNED Ай бұрын
​@@llamamama2910 Yeah....this is NOT standard nor anywhere near Christian behavior. Their Bishop and RS president needs to take care of this at once. If they don't the police need to get involved...
@donnellallan
@donnellallan Ай бұрын
What I miss most having left the church is visiting teachers. Thanks for being my visiting teachers today. 💜
@unicorntamer2207
@unicorntamer2207 Ай бұрын
When I didn't have my visiting teachers knocking on my door to check on me when I became inactive... I realized that relationship was fake. It hurt, but I'm glad I have real friends now. ❤
@CMZIEBARTH
@CMZIEBARTH 15 күн бұрын
​@@unicorntamer2207Yes, it meant those people were not doing their best. But it sounds like you were doing better than them for those you were assigned to.
@CMZIEBARTH
@CMZIEBARTH 15 күн бұрын
You can still be in Relief Society without being a member and have ministering sisters (basically the new term for visiting teacher).
@unicorntamer2207
@unicorntamer2207 15 күн бұрын
@@CMZIEBARTH I feel like the friendship of the members was not genuine. I feel like I have genuine friends now. The idea that members need to compare their services to others just makes it a stupid competition. That's not genuine, either. If someone is only coming to visit you to "minister" to you because the church told them to, that's not real friendship. I hope you find real friends someday.
@donnellallan
@donnellallan 15 күн бұрын
@CMZIEBARTH , that's kind of you to suggest. Thank you. Unfortunately, I have too much trauma associated with the church to be comfortable with such visits anymore. I know there are many kind women in the church. You seem to be one of them. I wish you well. 💜
@user-px2dt6kh9r
@user-px2dt6kh9r Ай бұрын
I miss that community. Thats what took me longer to leave because I didn’t want to loose everybody. My family sucks and it felt like me and my daughter finally had family with the Mormon church. What helped me was a video that I saw that mentioned if you don’t leave, then your children will have to go through this whole leaving process because it is a lie and they are going to know. I would rather struggle with this than my daughter in the future. I’m glad that I left.
@lesgraham7722
@lesgraham7722 11 күн бұрын
I am glad I stayed. I have both family (all inactive) and church community throughout the world. Your loss if you left, but that's your choice.
@CatskillsGrrl
@CatskillsGrrl Ай бұрын
That resonates. I am embarrassed that I was part of a church that claimed to be the One True Church.
@brendaplunkett8659
@brendaplunkett8659 Ай бұрын
Me too. Embarrassing I thought that.
@CatskillsGrrl
@CatskillsGrrl Ай бұрын
@@brendaplunkett8659 this is why I value the ex-Mormon community. A huge chunk of my life - convert at 15 and finally officially resigned only a couple years ago at 63 - was wrapped up in this thinking. So many lovely people, but so much toxicity. Ex-Mormons understand.
@brendaplunkett8659
@brendaplunkett8659 Ай бұрын
Exactly, the people are lovely here. I feel like I found my peeps.
@quacks2much
@quacks2much Ай бұрын
I hear you. I am more than embarrassed to have been a Mormon. I'm absolutely ashamed. I lost all confidence in my judgment. I'm pretty sure I will never be able to fully redeem myself.
@brendaplunkett8659
@brendaplunkett8659 Ай бұрын
@quacks2much Of course you will. The Church does not have a monopoly on spirituality and Jesus. I listen to psychics sometimes and near death experiences. We travel already with a " soul group" so you will always be with your soul group. You came to earth together. The Church does not have a monopoly " family forever" but only asking you to give your power away so the Church can give it back with limits and conditions. You can find God without it. You can keep your power for yourself and your be own compass.
@greg-op2jh
@greg-op2jh Ай бұрын
Found you on mormon stories. I was never Mormon but I grew up in a fundamentalist Evangelicals as a gay man. These stories are so inspirational. Makes you feel like you're not alone dealing with the trauma that you went through. ❤❤ Really glad I found your channel. Also watch the cults the consciousness episode. Y'all are such an inspiration❤
@robynryan7473
@robynryan7473 Ай бұрын
Same here I was brought through many years under the brethren of Christ. Very fundamental very right wing evangelical. I have since found a good healthy church since but such a common thread between their background and the evangelical fundamental trap-hole.
@imustremaincivil2932
@imustremaincivil2932 Ай бұрын
Eve's back! I will always remember her first video and how much it resonated with me at the beginning of my own faith transition.
@mortenle
@mortenle Ай бұрын
Watching the OG Eve podcast was devastating and fabulous. It was like watching myself sagging with the various "truths" of the Mormonism I grew up with that led to me leaving the church, but I had never seen anyone truly listen and absorb and realize hard truths right before my eyes. Eve was very brave. And so was Carah. Brave enough to show us one of the scariest moments in a religious person's life. But it was also a birth, yet birth is no easy thing. Thank you.
@jasonvesmam7044
@jasonvesmam7044 Ай бұрын
Good to hear from Eve again
@SteveSmith-os5bs
@SteveSmith-os5bs Ай бұрын
I watched a short John Delin video that said that the inactivity stats among returned missionaries was at 40%.
@trevanon7450
@trevanon7450 Ай бұрын
That's the stat after only 6 months once they left their mission. I'm assuming the inactivity after several years is higher.
@MrRickb75645
@MrRickb75645 29 күн бұрын
Yes it is . But they mostly come back later. I was one. And as I did, I couldn't find any other church that made any kind of sense . Almost childish were these other churches. I've been to Baptist, Methodist, and even Catholic. I was raised Catholic, and it wasn't till the LDS church that I found love and peace. I was.out of the church for nearly ten years .
@budthebud9108
@budthebud9108 26 күн бұрын
​@MrRickb75645 nobody's coming back unless settled history changes. It's knowledge pulling the members away and that knowledge can't be hidden
@yunglocke3952
@yunglocke3952 Ай бұрын
I was thinking about Eve earlier this week, glad to see her on the channel, let’s give her the most encouragement gang ❤
@Peter-sm5sb
@Peter-sm5sb Ай бұрын
One of the hardest things about leaving the church is about finding purpose. You're given a purpose for life by the church that you work towards your whole life. Having that taken away is difficult. You have to rediscover a purpose whether a different overarching purpose for the world and life. Or a personal chosen purpose for your life and what you want to do. Listening to NDEs personally helped me with reconstructing an overarching purpose. I also found a personal purpose after a long time and it's really empowering to discover what you want to do with your life but it can take a while to discover.
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 Ай бұрын
💯
@karmiahamilton7222
@karmiahamilton7222 Ай бұрын
This morning, I was struggling with motivation and anxiety, and I was asking myself how I used to deal with those feelings. Well, I used to pray to HF for strength and peace every day. It's so hard to realize that all that love, support, and calm actually came from inside myself. Now, I have to learn how to access and believe myself. Not there yet.
@bambie1830
@bambie1830 Ай бұрын
Same situation. I just went back to prayer. It works back then and is a powerful tool that your mind has made. Weather you believe in god or not you have a trained response or access the Devine, it can still work to achieve the desired result.
@hanako4475
@hanako4475 Ай бұрын
Pray to your inner self! Your intuition is part of you that operates on a different level, and was always listening when you prayed to heavenly father. Your subconscious mind can be set on tasks and asked to work on behalf of your conscious self through prayer/meditation. 😊
@TheStoneCoalition
@TheStoneCoalition Ай бұрын
So you went from worshipping and trusting God to worshipping and trusting yourself? Got it.
@llamamama2910
@llamamama2910 Ай бұрын
Everyone needs to respect and desire and believe in a greater GOOD, not necessarily God. And love and respect, trust and believe themselves-not their most anxious or self scolding thoughts-but their true selves-that knows right from wrong, how to keep themselves safe and be kind to the people around them. But not required to forgive or let others push your boundaries.
@llamamama2910
@llamamama2910 Ай бұрын
They didn’t say they worshipped themself. Everyone has to be able to trust their gut and have self confidence and self determination and self actualization. You pushing your agenda on someone else in a comment by giving them words they never said is not logic or debate-it’s nonsense.
@hanako4475
@hanako4475 Ай бұрын
Yaaay Eve!!! I love knowing you're doing well and on your journey!
@energeticremedies
@energeticremedies Ай бұрын
I was SDA and those were some of the best years of my life with my Church Family, until I started asking questions, then it just got weird😢
@LA-sn7qx
@LA-sn7qx Ай бұрын
There are so many similarities between these two churches, but such strong denial within the groups. It's hard when you begin to ask the questions and the answers are not the preordained results.
@bookmedia67
@bookmedia67 Ай бұрын
I knew a nice lady who was SDA. I always thought Adventists were just pretty vanilla Christians that went to church on Saturdays. Then she said she felt inspired to give me some SDA literature, and I was floored. It was almost as intense and severe The Watchtower. There was this whole booklet on how 9/11 was a sign from God, and mind you this was 2017…
@energeticremedies
@energeticremedies Ай бұрын
@@bookmedia67😧 they are twisted for sure I. used to get mad at my self for staying as Long as I did and as involved as I was and the $$ I freely gave 😞 when you know better you do better 😔
@chelitabubb790
@chelitabubb790 Ай бұрын
I grew up SDA (went to school, church, and Pathfinders!), then for some reason, I joined the Mormon church! It's interesting to see similar frameworks, amd lots of cross overs. Both experiences as church family were wonderful. I feel the same- some of the best years of my life. But dig a little deeper into both.... eek. 😢
@energeticremedies
@energeticremedies Ай бұрын
@@chelitabubb790 lol my SIL grew up Mormon and I converter her to SDA, ohh vey,Thank dog we are both Free from the bondage
@jennifersweitzer3472
@jennifersweitzer3472 Ай бұрын
Thank you Eve for bringing us all along in your faith journey!
@antiquemold
@antiquemold Ай бұрын
Eve's nuancehoe ep belongs in the Smithsonian museum. Congrats on making it through, you rock Eve!
@karenclair5004
@karenclair5004 Ай бұрын
Thank you. You are doing a fantastic job with your quick humor and deep insight. Love it
@82566
@82566 Ай бұрын
This was needed today thank you so much Eve n Kara
@suerasley7237
@suerasley7237 Ай бұрын
Yay! I was wondering about Eve the other day and here she is. Eve, you are literally glowing! I'm happy you made a decision that was hard, but the best for you. I love your idea of a flip chart, we all need affirmations in life. Take care and have a blast in Greece.
@joshuawatson1902
@joshuawatson1902 Ай бұрын
Love hearing from Eve!! I would love to see that video of different people bearing testimony from different faiths.
@unnim.s.713
@unnim.s.713 Ай бұрын
Hello from Norway. Greece is fantastic, so I am sure you will get a nice trip
@lotion_laura
@lotion_laura Ай бұрын
Hi, Eve! You both look great. Nice seeing you again. I hope the Greece trip goes well. 🙂
@ProsewithRose
@ProsewithRose Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing even more of your journey, Eve!
@indoors_too_much
@indoors_too_much Ай бұрын
Really lovely to see Eve. It has been beyond interesting to watching this process it has triggered so many thoughts about leaving Catholicism as a child in Ireland and a leaving a spiritual community after 7yrs of scrupulousity. Congrats Nuanceho
@kylaallen822
@kylaallen822 Ай бұрын
Just great to see the update! I hope you get those additional people to join you!
@nuancehoe
@nuancehoe Ай бұрын
I hope so too! 🤟🏻✈️🇬🇷
@aasiyapowell875
@aasiyapowell875 Ай бұрын
All the best Carah and Eve.
@KALAPANAPOCHIHANALEI
@KALAPANAPOCHIHANALEI Ай бұрын
Yay Eve! ILYSM 😘
@joantaylor1271
@joantaylor1271 Ай бұрын
I find these videos so interesting. I became an atheist when I was SEVEN YEARS OLD in Catholic school when I had a HUGE argument with four nuns and three priests! 🤣 They were in shock that a 7 year old could speak to them like an adult and not back down about their stupid beliefs! That was 2 nd grade and I continued to attend that school for 7 more years! 🤣 Hated every minute of it and I didn’t make it easy for them! 🤣 When I left my parents house at 18 I never went inside a church again! My BFF of 30 years is MORMON. She knows I think religion is insane.🤣
@AlisonKenzoland
@AlisonKenzoland Ай бұрын
I heard that 12 years of Catholic school like a prison sentence. I tried to reason with my mother on why I didn't believe in making confession and shouldn't have to make that sacrament. I'm pretty sure that was 3rd grade, didn't end well.
@dougmurphy1777
@dougmurphy1777 Ай бұрын
Tequila is a terrible introduction to alcohol! Eve, if you read this, please try a cocktail - go easy though; despite their pleasant taste, cocktails are quite potent. If I may make some recommendations, my favourites include Mai Thai, Long Island Ice Tea, Caipirinha, Sex on the Beach, Mojito and Whiskey Sour.
@nameunavailable1330
@nameunavailable1330 25 күн бұрын
You two are badasses masquerading as sweethearts!!! Keep on keepin’ on. Praying for you both 🙏✝️🫶
@keriezy
@keriezy Ай бұрын
I don't see all your videos, but the original one with Eve and John was so intriguing. I'm glad to get an update.
@MeganSmith-ly2cl
@MeganSmith-ly2cl Ай бұрын
Good luck getting your trip together! Sounds amazing.
@proffernot5485
@proffernot5485 Ай бұрын
Much respect, Eve. Thank you for your courage. I feel even greater solidarity now. :)
@lindseyhendrix2405
@lindseyhendrix2405 Ай бұрын
Eve, you are an incredible human! I love how genuine you are and you’re truly a reflection of the gospel I believe in. 💛 I hope y’all have a blast in Greece!
@rileyrindlisbacher7335
@rileyrindlisbacher7335 Ай бұрын
We love Eve!
@Sarah-sc9ev
@Sarah-sc9ev Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@China-Clay
@China-Clay Ай бұрын
Classic timing of a toddler!
@athkar9503
@athkar9503 7 күн бұрын
Will be nice to see you here in Greece hope you make a video of the experience ❤❤❤
@marianna-sophiabegaysacaid494
@marianna-sophiabegaysacaid494 Ай бұрын
So good to see Eve this will be a good video
@iveyjane4402
@iveyjane4402 Ай бұрын
Loved this❤ Could we have the link to the Testimony sharing vid that was mentioned?
@TiredasaMama
@TiredasaMama Ай бұрын
I want to go on the trip SO bad!
@DestonieSalazar
@DestonieSalazar Ай бұрын
I’m late to the conversation but you both are so brave. Thank you for speaking the truth.
@SatansRoerhat
@SatansRoerhat Ай бұрын
Eve will always be a beloved fan favourite ♥🏳‍🌈🦄 Sending virtual hugs and thank you for coming back on!
@bodytrainer1crane730
@bodytrainer1crane730 Ай бұрын
I can definitely relate to the familial and existential loneliness. Thank you Eve for sharing.
@VioletShinobi
@VioletShinobi Ай бұрын
Her mormon story was the very first one I watched. And it got me hooked.
@natalieboyack
@natalieboyack Ай бұрын
❤ Great to hear an update! Eve looks great! And looks like she's in a good place and space. I hope you get way more than the two other attendees needed; sounds like I'll be an incredible trip!🎉
@ArtyWeb23
@ArtyWeb23 Ай бұрын
Thanks for being so brave Eve. I sincerely appreciate you
@yeshalloween
@yeshalloween Ай бұрын
I’d consider coming to Greece if I wasn’t pregnant. Please consider forming a group that gets together in person. This is SUCH a lonely journey.
@DonaldTurner
@DonaldTurner Ай бұрын
good luck, ladies! hang in there, Eve. It's hard. but confronting reality, and fighting the urge to retreat to familiar but deceitful old ways, is in fact the honest path. enabling ill-founded notions to persist, only serves those that profit from the perpetuation of bs. and people suffer for that perpetuation. trudge on, knowing, you are helping to break generations of bad cycles, that serve bad things.
@carolloucks7103
@carolloucks7103 Ай бұрын
To the family who helped their abandoned and neglected gramma. I love what you did for her. I hope that you don’t think I am naive in believing that most people are like you in their caring and thinking and actions. I really have a strong need to know there are people like you who take such actions and don’t believe in the judgment and shaming of people who don’t belong to their church. Love one another. Right? Much, much love to you. No “worthiness” need be proven. You just are: good people. ❤️
@sarab2554
@sarab2554 Ай бұрын
22:51 Oh my gosh I felt the exact same way!!
@joegoss30
@joegoss30 Ай бұрын
Since most of the beaches in Greece are topless, I thought the bathing suit question was going in a different direction...
@Supercocono6
@Supercocono6 Ай бұрын
As a non believer I always thought about the freedom I have but seeing eve looking sad about loosing the community is heartbreaking and understandable. I hope she can find a community that fills that loneliness… maybe a shared interest of a hobby like art or dancing or reading or movies or travelling could help her find a community of similar minds and friendships that won’t leave her like her Mormon community did. In the meantime I hope you guys make it to Greece. There’s a big beautiful world out there and I think seeing it will help bring joy and wonderment and fill that missing piece ❤
@zacc9953
@zacc9953 Ай бұрын
Eve, welcome to the world outside the matrix. Wish you the best!
@lionspawfilmandphoto
@lionspawfilmandphoto Ай бұрын
It makes my heart happy to see Eve's journey to freedom.
@virginianielsen3480
@virginianielsen3480 Ай бұрын
If there’s any way you can afford a trip y’all definitely do what you can to make it out! I can’t go because I have a toddler but the extra expenses for a group trip make it so much more memorable and stress free. Solo trips with a group tour are 100% the best way to travel.
@missionledcontent
@missionledcontent Ай бұрын
I really hope you get those spaces filled. I would love to xome but cant go abroad without my kids. Their needs are too high for me to be so far away. It's going to be incredible
@blancau8223
@blancau8223 19 күн бұрын
I love Eve! Watched her journey. My brother became Mormon and I know his four kids suffer depression. One had to end his mission earlier due to that. My other niece didn't want to go to mission. She changed. They drink energy drink that have caffeine when they visit me lol😂and feel happy.
@lisam.3916
@lisam.3916 Ай бұрын
@nuancehoe can we have that video of all the people professing their testimonies?
@Hal_Beep-Boop
@Hal_Beep-Boop 10 күн бұрын
Im proud of you Eve and all yhe other people who followed truth past the walls that people put up in front of you.
@ginamiller6754
@ginamiller6754 Ай бұрын
Eve comes across kind and genuine and super likable!
@China-Clay
@China-Clay Ай бұрын
Give us more Eve!!!😅
@lupieusgirl
@lupieusgirl Ай бұрын
This reminded me of the sister missionaries who taught me the discussions when I was 9 years old... I was a child of record, and was even baptized at the age of 8, but my records were lost so I was rebaptized as a convert. It makes me sad now, knowing that I was indoctrinated and brainwashed at such a young age. I was never allowed to serve a mission for the church, even though I wanted to, so I ended up spending about 15 years of my life writing hundreds of letters to well over 200 missionaries (men and women) serving all over the world. I know for a fact that more than a few of them were shared with mission companions - one companion from Argentina (who served in Uruguay) even started writing me regularly and later proposed to me. I didn't end up converting anyone with my letters, but I tried to offer support and comfort to those serving (well, maybe not those first few years as I was a deeply traumatized and confused teenager :)). I've thought about continuing to write missionaries, but I'm not sure how well that would go over now that I no longer believe in the Church or in God...
@brendaplunkett8659
@brendaplunkett8659 Ай бұрын
Please make your trips a regular thing and I will save up. I would love to hang with you awesome women.
@emjunker
@emjunker Ай бұрын
My gaaaawwwdd, would love to go to Greece and get wee tipsy with you two, fellow exmogurrrrls...😆😆
@libertycan6959
@libertycan6959 Ай бұрын
Masterful performance....the entire crew far and wide.
@Geoplanetjane
@Geoplanetjane Ай бұрын
Remember, Carah, while you’re in MA, go to Northampton and visit Smith College, to look into the Ada Comstock Program. You would be perfect for that program.
@slconley
@slconley Ай бұрын
Welcome to the other side!!!
@xochitlkitty
@xochitlkitty Ай бұрын
Things might be different now, but I went to Greece a long time ago, and the people were very friendly. The food was delicious. Have fun!
@redhatbear1135
@redhatbear1135 Ай бұрын
I’ve never consider the LDS was a cult, but as I sit here thinking I have Mormon friend that we have other things in common and friends that don’t share the same political views either so I started wondering why can’t you be friends with friends in different churches or in your old church? And there it was there are restrictions within the church that require you Mormon friends to put effort into you rejoining! The strongest driver in most converts is indeed crisis, not all but enough to make fanatics.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow Ай бұрын
The reason it's a cult is because it checks off almost every box in the BITE Model for High Demand Religions. And because of what it took to get out. A decade of mental gymnastics and studying to make sure I wasn't leaving the one true church. I'm Crystal clear on it now, but yeah, it's really easy to tell it's a cult after you get out. 👍🏼
@rebeccazeman9309
@rebeccazeman9309 Ай бұрын
If i had the money to go to Greece with you ladies i would! I'm a never mo but i actually covered the back rent for my niece's father so she would have a roof over her head(i would take her in any time but obviously don't want to uproot her life) and he is not paying me back very quickly so I'm out about 6 or 7k right now. I'm so bummed. I really want to go! I just can't.
@katschneidermusic6745
@katschneidermusic6745 26 күн бұрын
It’s true! Eve is the epitome of a loving, compassionate, intelligent person. Regardless of her religious beliefs, I think she’s great.
@michellesass5070
@michellesass5070 Ай бұрын
I'm trying to figure out the removing of my records without letting my whole family know! I'm the only one who is fully exmo but they still think talking to me will bring me back. Yeah, no. I want zero connection and no more missionaries at my door, ever. They literally follow you between address changes
@daniprado-castro3695
@daniprado-castro3695 16 күн бұрын
Eve has fuuuuuully glowed up 🎉
@cameronvansant2108
@cameronvansant2108 Ай бұрын
"Parasocial relationships are all we have right now though!!" why did I feel this so deeply in my soul 🥲 I moved in 2022 to a new state and making friends is so hard, especially when you're kinda broke and don't always have 10-40 extra bucks to spend on gas and a coffee or a meal out, let alone up front costs to some kind of event... I'm still trying to get out there, but I do get too much of my "social need" fulfilled from listening to KZfaqrs and podcasters, ha ha.
@LZona-xc3oq
@LZona-xc3oq 16 күн бұрын
In the decades after leaving the Catholic Church, I’ve formed many friendships with people of so many different backgrounds. I have also maintained cordial relationships with practicing Catholics. (Catholicism is weird in its own way, but in the USA at least, it isn’t nearly as demanding as Mormonism). But there is nothing quite so special as my friendships and discussions with my fellow ex-Catholics. We just “get” each other. Especially if they went to Catholic school. And this special understanding is something I sense in your discussions with Eve, John and Alyssa. Good luck to all of you.
@InNoSenceNonsence
@InNoSenceNonsence Ай бұрын
Indeed. I feel I am obligated to go back to Germany on a "forgive me please" mission. Though practically everyone I talked to was already wise enough to not take me seriously.
@coryhorton5837
@coryhorton5837 29 күн бұрын
Gotta plug Brittney Hartley’s, “No-nonsense Spirituality,” as someone who speaks the same Mormon faith language through reconstruction. It’s so good.
@LazarWolf07
@LazarWolf07 25 күн бұрын
Sorry Carah, I also forgot Eve’s debut was not on MSP but I remember that now and won’t forget it! P.S. That was a significantly important episode for a ton of folks and I love that it has helped so many people. Party on.
@holeika
@holeika Ай бұрын
I would love toto go but my hubby and I can't afford anything extra. But maybe next time. I think it would be a lot of fun
@trevanon7450
@trevanon7450 Ай бұрын
About 24:20 for those who don't know, the video is called Spiritual Witness by a channel Lehoria 1. (Can't post a link here.)
@LilithsErrand
@LilithsErrand 22 күн бұрын
Former Mormon -- I've found a classicist and philologist who uses his expertise of pharmacology of that time period I think EVERY former Mormon needs to watch. TRUST ME: Lady Babylon ... literally everything will begin to make sense... and it's ALL SCIENCE...just here to spread awareness... would make an excellent series, Nuance
@ruthsweeney1117
@ruthsweeney1117 Ай бұрын
I want to GOOOO!
@Lovethisguy-kf1ku
@Lovethisguy-kf1ku Ай бұрын
I used to be apathetic toward the church when I stoped going years ago. After listening to your channel I NOW HATE THE EVERY MORMON.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow Ай бұрын
What video??? Can someone please tell me where to look? I missed it.
@jaylarsen67
@jaylarsen67 Ай бұрын
So the forbidden fruit was apple? Is that why Steve Jobs put a bite out his apple icon?
@codyironworks307
@codyironworks307 Ай бұрын
The person most likely to get poisoned by a Mormon i feel like I'd be on that list 😂
@jessicac6787
@jessicac6787 24 күн бұрын
It's incredibly sad that mormonism ruins God for some people I left, and now i'm a born-again christian. I feel closer to God than I ever have! If anybody reads this comment and you want to get closer to God, start with reading his word the bible in a translation you can understand. ❤
@acatnamedm4529
@acatnamedm4529 Ай бұрын
@belkyhernandez8281
@belkyhernandez8281 Ай бұрын
In person conversations are not backwards. It is the most powerful tool in persuasion. It's used in religion, but also in politics and in sales. Don't underestimate it.
@tamalthor697
@tamalthor697 Ай бұрын
22:00 taking my name out of the church was cathartic. However, there were stories (at the time anyway) of records people from the church telling family when someone had their names removed. Be safe :)
@budthebud9108
@budthebud9108 26 күн бұрын
I kept god, just ditched the church. Now i get a loving god and 10% raise.
@John-jh9ud
@John-jh9ud Ай бұрын
For anyone who is still a member, if your gospel experience stops at "beliefs" seek the Lord until you KNOW. "[Our] first and foremost duty [is] to seek the Lord until we open the path of communication from God to our own soul.” Brigham Young
@twinnish
@twinnish Ай бұрын
Cara and Eve: you both need to get together with your husbands and write a will about the people that you want to have guardianship of your children if something happens to you because unless you do that they will automatically go to your relatives who are mostly Mormon .
@PyrrhicPax
@PyrrhicPax Ай бұрын
I've had the missionary who converted me try to contact me a number of times since I left, but I haven't responded because I feel like he deceived me during my conversion. It doesn't help that we didn't really speak outside of his mission, and the fact that our lives have gone in dramatically different directions since then. He comes from a wealthy family and went to BYU to fulfill his dream of being a successful businessman; I come from below the poverty line and have given up multiple job opportunities to uphold my former obligations to the church, and have since developed a resentment for both the church, and businessmen. But after hearing this woman speak about her desire to go on a "Second Mission" to deconvert the people she preached to, I wonder if he is trying to do the same.
@Geoplanetjane
@Geoplanetjane Ай бұрын
Ostracism was a big thing, even while we were in the church. I was a well educated and well spoken single mother of two beautiful little boys. There weee people in our ward who preferred to have their kids play with kids from fundamentalist baptist home schooler families instead of with my boys who needed friends in the church and we were always held at arm’s length. I was so insulted and if anything, am even more insulted now. I joined originally with my first husband because I thought it would save my marriage. It didn’t. I stuck around for awhile but ultimately left after we could no longer stomach how we were being treated. I tried again later on and actually married again, this time in the Boston Temple. But we both left when Salt Lake came out with all the anti-gay nonsense and supported Proposition 8. I left in a cloud of dust, never to darken their doors again.
@lesgraham7722
@lesgraham7722 11 күн бұрын
My siblings rejected the church and we are all still fine as a family. I am the only active one now that our mum died. There is no dark side for my siblings, they are friendly to the members and vice versa, but then we are international LDS. A lot of the radicals seem to be in the usa, maybe its a cultural problem!!!
@Nosnehp
@Nosnehp Ай бұрын
If you want a shocking story read about the “Mountain Meadows Massacre” on September 11, 1857.
@nuancehoe
@nuancehoe Ай бұрын
Like this? 💫 kzfaq.info/sun/PLuy6o0h_53STgD42r0-uwKL4GMZQKE6b8
@Nosnehp
@Nosnehp Ай бұрын
@@nuancehoe I see you have it covered. How about the incorrectly translated Egyptian papyri in the book of Abraham? Courtesy of the false profit Joseph Smith.
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