He really was a twisted guy!

Ouch

Exactly.

Snively deserved his fate 💯

To be fair nobody in his family likes him so he's use it it. Even his sister who's very kind straight up slapped him when he genuinely tried to bring her into his world domination plans and said he was a sad little man. Even his name snively is a nickname his father gave him to insult him.

He was for sure a real threat when he wanted to be one and that's what made him such a good villain in the comics for sure!

@@FantasticSamtastic Makes his last line: "Game over Snively. Thanks for playing." A lot more sinister somehow.

Really Robotnik caused the majority of the bad stuff that rippled through Mobius

Same for starline

It was robotnik who enabled snivley good position in the first place. Without the former the latter would be a nobody.

​@@christinekyosimire4680 starline would have probably found something else to obsess about. Either that or he would have just taken eggmans place entirely, just like in the comics.

Oh I actually really like that! Next time I read some I might do that!

Actually I imagine him being voiced by Jim Cummings. Since you know. He's basically Julian after he roboticized himself and uploaded his mind into the Eggman body.

@@warioland523 I guess that works too. 😁👍

It's a pretty tough one tbh. I'm not even sure who I would pick!

Oh easy fleetway robotnik not even a competition fleetway robotnik is basically like robotnik from satam although worse he enslaved Mobians and anyone who defied his rule are straight up killed and badniks who fail to beat sonic are thrown into molten lava *WITH THE MOBIAN STILL INSIDE* . He has torn families apart simply because he wanted a power source for more soldiers , he became god and instead of helping people or making a paradise he simply became a dictator with people in devastation never to even understand the concept of "freedom", and before his death he rid the planet of it's life force using a machine in order to boost his own power. He quite literally made metallix which in of itself was a huge threat. He quite literally after being god and making an alternate universe where sonic never existed informed sonic that since he never existed his greatest companion whom he has been with for almost since the beginning of the comic died because sonic wasn't there to pull him out of a swamp just to fucking get into sonics head and only kept sonic alive so he could get the entertainment of seeing sonic struggle for *65 years* . He is cunning, brutal, and takes pleasure in making sure that all of Mobius never gets the concept of experiencing happiness. The only reason for his motives is just cause he finds the beautiful world of Mobius' peace gross.

@Ultimate Sora alright go off but this wasn't a debate on who was the *Better villain* this was a debate on which has done more *evil* perhaps I was being vague on it and I made the wrong impression, but yeah kinda awkward

I mean, the Archie comics are a spinoff of SATAM, so technically they're almost the same guy

@@cyborgboy3070 i know you already resoloved but as insaind and evil fleetway robotnik is archie pre is a lot more evil becuse of him being a robo robotnik and way more evil as his sonic was blown up by a nuke

if it aint broke dont fix it!

That would make a really terrifying version of Eggman!

Yeah one of these days I'll have to touch on that madness in a video!

Ngl every time I see cubot in the comics I get a cursed vibe lol

I mean that makes sense. Given that we never see him again though it does feel much darker

I mean fair enough but "That Time Eggman Left Sinvely for What Was Assumed To Be His Death Until The Super Genesis Wave Rebooted Everything" doesn't quite have the same ring to it 😛

@@FantasticSamtastic 😂 hmmm 🤔 now that I think of it is a bit too long of a title isn’t it. Anyway In the video you explained it well enough there was a bit were it jogged my memory as I haven’t read that particular comic for almost a few years and the video is brilliant it makes you think. Anyway keep up the good video,s mate I’d like to see one on Eggman’s personality it would be another one to have a good discussion over.

@@FantasticSamtastic a small part of me doesn’t think that Eggman would kill Snivley I think iv anyone discovered what he did such as the iron queen he’d use Snivley as Leverage.

It's a big time bummer. People joke around about how out there the Archie comics got (and with good reason because some stuff was wild) but there was some pretty good story telling (especially near the end)

And including Sonic Universe which is still within the Sonic Archie comics universe.

That is true

That and he *was* baiting Super Sonic directly into a trap to be fair...

I don't blame kid you for reacting that way lol

Agreed!

Comic Eggman is generally scary. Even in the IDW run he unleashed a robot zombie virus that nearly killed the planet and defeated one of his former flunkies so thoroughly and ruthlessly that the flunky had a mental breakdown.

huh yeah I forgot about that. He was actually kinda cool in that game

He truly was a very twisted villain that really felt like a mad genius

​@@FantasticSamtastic They could even pull a nod to Ken penders by making Metal Sonic feel like he's playing second fiddle to Metal Sally

Fleetway Eggman: Am I a joke to you?

@@Rgoid I never read Fleetway. That version looks fine, but I prefer Archie. I also love Boom for how funny he is.

He really is my favourite version of Eggman! He's got so many just really evil moments that set him as a real threat

And much more violent lol

@@FantasticSamtastic and all the real potential eggman is capable of but he don't wanna do it

That would be a fun one! I've got a few topics on the burner but that's for sure one I'll be adding to the list

It would be amazing to see Eggman as a crazed genius like we see him here.

Lol yeah 06 was something else. I wish it was good

Yeah I heard of project 06 in which people made the game good. Btw I just added more my genesis lore. First of mr g isn't just a split personality he is actually the genesis of sonic underground but he died trying to stop robotnik and his soul transfered to genesis. Another thing is that when i previously mentioned that gen.exe was into architecture from marble zone he was also into art as well which resulted in him being kicked out by all of the other exes and of course wipe away his memories. Speaking of gen.exe when he finnaly whent in a universe with sonic.exe he becamed the evolved gen.exe as well as an angel form to represent his goodness.

Have you not played Sonic Adventure 2? He blows up the moon, holds Amy hostage with a gun, and would've successfully killed Sonic if not for the Deus Ex Machina of him being able to use Chaos Control with a fake Chaos Emerald.

Yeah definitely agree 06 could have been better I hope Sega learned from the mistakes they made.

Eggman in the games series isn’t that evil because he isn’t as reckless as he is in the comic universe his constant defeats by the hands of Sonic and the freedom fighters mainly sonic drove him mad he simply couldn’t understand why he was losing even tho at times he came close to winning and having the upper hand to have sonic find a way to turn it around at the last minute. As Snivley said in one of the comics Eggman is a brilliant scientist and engineer he can build almost anything that others would find impossible he can plan and strategise many steps ahead and account for many possibilities. It’s how he was able to conquer mobius in a few short years but none of all he could do could account for sonic the constant defeats at his hands pushed him to be more Vicious and more driven in his cause even making him self sacrificial. In the end on his mind they only thing was crushing sonic by any means necessary.

Eggman really likes to say behold lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9F9hq6WmrapioU.html

@@FantasticSamtastic it's true

You da bomb dot com!

I did love at how dangerous Eggman became, its a very fine line to make him a threat while also keeping fun elements to him

Just crank everyone up to 11 lol

@@FantasticSamtastic forget that! Let's turn it up from 0 to 100! Lol 🤣

Well if he doesn't die he'll surely go mad lol

Thats fair

And he loves you!

me too

lol hes beaten down. I think the pokemon manga might make for some interesting content though!

That might be something worth looking into! I didn't find anything when working on this video but I didn't spend a lot of time on the crossover so I might have actually just missed it

Actually, when you put it that way you make a good point lol

@@FantasticSamtastic In Sonic CD, Sonic traveled through time. How do you fight that?

It is a really dark story and although Snively is bad, to treat him this way is really cruel and inhumane. It reminds us that Eggman is a serious villain here.

@@FantasticSamtastic Yes. I agree. Even though Dr Robotnik is more of a comedicall villain, he had some moments where showed us as children that he can be just as dark, brutal, serious and scary as any other villain.

When Eggman loses it he really loses it. For sure not someone you want to get on the bad side of

@@FantasticSamtastic What makes his short burst of insanity horrifying is that despite his lack of control of his mental state, he completely has control of his calmness and exuding power.

People dying left and right!

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@@FantasticSamtastic Huh… You learn something new everyday.

It actually left me having to do a double take when I read it because it was so grim

I'm a disgrace 😥

Archie???

That would be so cool!

Confidence is key

Not disagreeing but I'm curious as to who you would place above him

Archie Eggman could be a real monster

maybe? It's been forever since I watched the show but I had just remembered that line as being so weird lol

@@FantasticSamtastic He immediately offers a partnership with the villain he said that to after Sonic leaves the area, so I would assume such.

I will say though IDW seems to have a pretty fun direction right now and Frontiers has given me hope for the next games

@@FantasticSamtastic Frontiers was a glorified tech demo from 2009 💀

I think having Sally has more of an impact, it's a real big demoralizing thing to see your former leader turned to the enemy

nope, if we read the comic we can see 3 pages after the metal series is introduced Eggman refers to her as Mecha Sally which shows that that is still Mecha Sally who leads the metal series.

I legit forgot I did that lol

There is no god here, just Eggman 🥚

The original uncut video was over 45min long, there was a lot that I cut out that happens during this arc but isn't relevant to mecha Sally. Also, at the time these videos took me about an hour or more to edit a minute so I spent a minimum of 22 hours editing that video and that's pretty long for me 😂

Lmao