when you realise dr eggman is snivelys uncle it makes it 10x more sad because snivelys basically being belittled by his own family member
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He really was a twisted guy!
@mr.t6863 Жыл бұрын
Ouch
@WhiteFireTheDragon Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@retardwithconviction10 ай бұрын
Snively deserved his fate 💯
@vesthegame14304 ай бұрын
To be fair nobody in his family likes him so he's use it it. Even his sister who's very kind straight up slapped him when he genuinely tried to bring her into his world domination plans and said he was a sad little man. Even his name snively is a nickname his father gave him to insult him.
@Avatarbee Жыл бұрын
What I really liked about Archie Eggman was that he was constantly playing russian roulette type games with everyone. With Snively, his officers and even the freedom fighters to a degree. It added a layer of menace knowing that some of the horrid and nice stuff he was doing he was only doing for shits and giggles.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He was for sure a real threat when he wanted to be one and that's what made him such a good villain in the comics for sure!
@Avatarbee Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Makes his last line: "Game over Snively. Thanks for playing." A lot more sinister somehow.
@justinw7323 Жыл бұрын
You cannot help but feel sorry for Snively. He would have had a happy/sane life if it wasn't for Robotnik.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Really Robotnik caused the majority of the bad stuff that rippled through Mobius
@christinekyosimire4680 Жыл бұрын
Same for starline
@miniaturejayhawk870211 ай бұрын
It was robotnik who enabled snivley good position in the first place. Without the former the latter would be a nobody.
@miniaturejayhawk870211 ай бұрын
@@christinekyosimire4680 starline would have probably found something else to obsess about. Either that or he would have just taken eggmans place entirely, just like in the comics.
@goodsonicfan50162 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine Mark Hamill voicing Archie’s Dr. Eggman every time I read the comics.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Oh I actually really like that! Next time I read some I might do that!
@warioland5233 ай бұрын
Actually I imagine him being voiced by Jim Cummings. Since you know. He's basically Julian after he roboticized himself and uploaded his mind into the Eggman body.
@goodsonicfan50163 ай бұрын
@@warioland523 I guess that works too. 😁👍
@austria-hungary4981 Жыл бұрын
I don't know which Robotnik is the *true evil* rather than the pesky villain. 1. Robotnik from the SATAM where he rules over Mobius 2. Fleetway Robotnik who also ruled over Mobius, ruined many lives, became a God at one point. 3. Archie Robotnik who loses it after being defeated by Sonic too many times
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
It's a pretty tough one tbh. I'm not even sure who I would pick!
@cyborgboy3070 Жыл бұрын
Oh easy fleetway robotnik not even a competition fleetway robotnik is basically like robotnik from satam although worse he enslaved Mobians and anyone who defied his rule are straight up killed and badniks who fail to beat sonic are thrown into molten lava *WITH THE MOBIAN STILL INSIDE* . He has torn families apart simply because he wanted a power source for more soldiers , he became god and instead of helping people or making a paradise he simply became a dictator with people in devastation never to even understand the concept of "freedom", and before his death he rid the planet of it's life force using a machine in order to boost his own power. He quite literally made metallix which in of itself was a huge threat. He quite literally after being god and making an alternate universe where sonic never existed informed sonic that since he never existed his greatest companion whom he has been with for almost since the beginning of the comic died because sonic wasn't there to pull him out of a swamp just to fucking get into sonics head and only kept sonic alive so he could get the entertainment of seeing sonic struggle for *65 years* . He is cunning, brutal, and takes pleasure in making sure that all of Mobius never gets the concept of experiencing happiness. The only reason for his motives is just cause he finds the beautiful world of Mobius' peace gross.
@cyborgboy3070 Жыл бұрын
@Ultimate Sora alright go off but this wasn't a debate on who was the *Better villain* this was a debate on which has done more *evil* perhaps I was being vague on it and I made the wrong impression, but yeah kinda awkward
@PyroGothNerd Жыл бұрын
I mean, the Archie comics are a spinoff of SATAM, so technically they're almost the same guy
@myheroandmadaralover2372 Жыл бұрын
@@cyborgboy3070 i know you already resoloved but as insaind and evil fleetway robotnik is archie pre is a lot more evil becuse of him being a robo robotnik and way more evil as his sonic was blown up by a nuke
@TheIcyPanda Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Heihachi Mishima style: locking people up up in the basement and starving them to death. Can't beat the classics!
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
if it aint broke dont fix it!
@m3tr0id86 Жыл бұрын
Imagine someone swing Satam Robotnik doing the voice in this comic. That idea makes him sound terrifying.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That would make a really terrifying version of Eggman!
@Lemmy-prod Жыл бұрын
It’s also sad due to eggman going insane in issue #200 as he just breaks. It is just sad the way snivley said that bassically he had to take care of robotnik which is just down right horrifying, just how he went to insanity was crazy due to the metapropolis fight after that he went to madness
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Yeah one of these days I'll have to touch on that madness in a video!
@dissonanceparadiddle Жыл бұрын
It's so cursed to see cubot and Sally in the same comic
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Ngl every time I see cubot in the comics I get a cursed vibe lol
@bowserbreaker2515 Жыл бұрын
Ian Flynn said Snively didn't die, because he was planned to come back eventually, just not for a while.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I mean that makes sense. Given that we never see him again though it does feel much darker
@bluekel6155 ай бұрын
3:12 I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT WAS A SNIVELY BOT, I JUST THOUGHT EGGMAN TOOK HIM AWAY TO THE CAPSULE IN HIS SLEEP OR SOMETHING THE NEXT PANEL HOLY-
@Skyfish932 ай бұрын
Can't believe Starscream betrayed Megatron and ACTUALLY got his just desserts.
@roadrunner3672 Жыл бұрын
The title is a bit misleading Eggman doesn’t kill Snivley he replaces him with a robotic duplicate of the real one and locks the real Snivley away in a prison cell you just don’t see anything more of what happens to him because the universe gets reset by the Genesis wave.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I mean fair enough but "That Time Eggman Left Sinvely for What Was Assumed To Be His Death Until The Super Genesis Wave Rebooted Everything" doesn't quite have the same ring to it 😛
@roadrunner3672 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic 😂 hmmm 🤔 now that I think of it is a bit too long of a title isn’t it. Anyway In the video you explained it well enough there was a bit were it jogged my memory as I haven’t read that particular comic for almost a few years and the video is brilliant it makes you think. Anyway keep up the good video,s mate I’d like to see one on Eggman’s personality it would be another one to have a good discussion over.
@roadrunner3672 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic a small part of me doesn’t think that Eggman would kill Snivley I think iv anyone discovered what he did such as the iron queen he’d use Snivley as Leverage.
@Sonicmid2 жыл бұрын
I wish we got to see a lot of the plots continue in Archie Sonic it really the whole universe got delete.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
It's a big time bummer. People joke around about how out there the Archie comics got (and with good reason because some stuff was wild) but there was some pretty good story telling (especially near the end)
@amarikristopher8409 Жыл бұрын
And including Sonic Universe which is still within the Sonic Archie comics universe.
@riley-dv8eu Жыл бұрын
4:03 I mean the context here kind of fits, as here eggman is infront of super sonic, who is all powerful so he gers on his knees and begs him to spare him even after all the stuff he did to him
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That is true
@SpectroliteDSАй бұрын
That and he *was* baiting Super Sonic directly into a trap to be fair...
@thegreatmysterys Жыл бұрын
I read that chapter as a kid, and it messed with me for my entire life
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I don't blame kid you for reacting that way lol
@FallenHalfWingedWolf2 жыл бұрын
Goodness Archie Eggman is scary
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Avatarbee Жыл бұрын
Comic Eggman is generally scary. Even in the IDW run he unleashed a robot zombie virus that nearly killed the planet and defeated one of his former flunkies so thoroughly and ruthlessly that the flunky had a mental breakdown.
@KainuTrash Жыл бұрын
I mean there was that one bit in lost world where he wanted to just go straight to genocide, which I think was the only time I heard a sonic VA say "genocide" in the game.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
huh yeah I forgot about that. He was actually kinda cool in that game
@bowserbreaker2515 Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason as to why Archie Eggman is the best version.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He truly was a very twisted villain that really felt like a mad genius
@moacirpatricio5718 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic They could even pull a nod to Ken penders by making Metal Sonic feel like he's playing second fiddle to Metal Sally
@Rgoid11 ай бұрын
Fleetway Eggman: Am I a joke to you?
@bowserbreaker251511 ай бұрын
@@Rgoid I never read Fleetway. That version looks fine, but I prefer Archie. I also love Boom for how funny he is.
@lloydbagby8355 Жыл бұрын
This is the reson I love archie eggman pre and post wave he very sadistic and very cruel plus he knew when to be funny but not kill his own theat level
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He really is my favourite version of Eggman! He's got so many just really evil moments that set him as a real threat
@eljereaumartiena747 Жыл бұрын
Archie eggman is not the eggman we know he's still doctor pingas but with a new body that have plot armor
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
And much more violent lol
@eljereaumartiena747 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic and all the real potential eggman is capable of but he don't wanna do it
@urdeadnotbigsuprise74392 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, can we get a video about Eggbosses? They seem pretty interesting on PGW Archie Sonic Comics and I don't see anyone really making videos about them.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun one! I've got a few topics on the burner but that's for sure one I'll be adding to the list
@SoranotRoxas10 ай бұрын
*This Eggman was dangerous... would love for Sega to bring back this version! It would be insane dude* 👌
@FantasticSamtastic10 ай бұрын
It would be amazing to see Eggman as a crazed genius like we see him here.
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
Eggman in this universe is way messed up and more evil than his game universe in which he wasn't that evil apart from the time from unleashed which he basically summoned an evil God and some of the events of 06 but he tried to fix that (even mentioning that game just makes me want to forget it).
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah 06 was something else. I wish it was good
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
Yeah I heard of project 06 in which people made the game good. Btw I just added more my genesis lore. First of mr g isn't just a split personality he is actually the genesis of sonic underground but he died trying to stop robotnik and his soul transfered to genesis. Another thing is that when i previously mentioned that gen.exe was into architecture from marble zone he was also into art as well which resulted in him being kicked out by all of the other exes and of course wipe away his memories. Speaking of gen.exe when he finnaly whent in a universe with sonic.exe he becamed the evolved gen.exe as well as an angel form to represent his goodness.
@FwendlyMushwoom2 жыл бұрын
Have you not played Sonic Adventure 2? He blows up the moon, holds Amy hostage with a gun, and would've successfully killed Sonic if not for the Deus Ex Machina of him being able to use Chaos Control with a fake Chaos Emerald.
@roadrunner3672 Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely agree 06 could have been better I hope Sega learned from the mistakes they made.
@roadrunner3672 Жыл бұрын
Eggman in the games series isn’t that evil because he isn’t as reckless as he is in the comic universe his constant defeats by the hands of Sonic and the freedom fighters mainly sonic drove him mad he simply couldn’t understand why he was losing even tho at times he came close to winning and having the upper hand to have sonic find a way to turn it around at the last minute. As Snivley said in one of the comics Eggman is a brilliant scientist and engineer he can build almost anything that others would find impossible he can plan and strategise many steps ahead and account for many possibilities. It’s how he was able to conquer mobius in a few short years but none of all he could do could account for sonic the constant defeats at his hands pushed him to be more Vicious and more driven in his cause even making him self sacrificial. In the end on his mind they only thing was crushing sonic by any means necessary.
@jamestolbert185623 күн бұрын
4:07 as much as I love Sonic being lighthearted but I appreciate it for also being dark and mature for a while
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Eggman be like: behold My evil
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Eggman really likes to say behold lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9F9hq6WmrapioU.html
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic it's true
@anthonysmith34152 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the Mecha Sally video now watching this one
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
You da bomb dot com!
@myheroandmadaralover2372 Жыл бұрын
i do miss the old archie comic when flynn took over eggman being a threat while still being being eggman plus glad to see snivey get destoryed by eggman i mean the man destoryed the old note hole the only resona snivey got far was eggaman when insaine
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I did love at how dangerous Eggman became, its a very fine line to make him a threat while also keeping fun elements to him
@TheEggPaladin10 ай бұрын
This is why i love the Archie sonic comics. They take well know sonic characters and adapt them into something dark and twisted but fun lol 😂
@FantasticSamtastic10 ай бұрын
Just crank everyone up to 11 lol
@TheEggPaladin10 ай бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic forget that! Let's turn it up from 0 to 100! Lol 🤣
@DangerHost Жыл бұрын
snively isnt going to starve, iirc eggcapsules are borderline stasis tech which is why using them to harness energy from animals is worthwhile on top of being just mean to do, Snively is going to be on solitary for a VERY long time THEN maybe starve to death
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Well if he doesn't die he'll surely go mad lol
@RedTygon Жыл бұрын
I mean this was, you know, before Sega decided they were going to market their product to just kids.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Thats fair
@Pika-Chu642 жыл бұрын
I love snively. ❤️
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
And he loves you!
@trollanlord852 жыл бұрын
me too
@jamestolbert185623 күн бұрын
I feel really bad for Snively! This shows just how pure evil Dr Eggman is!
@LazyPirate8 Жыл бұрын
1:01 Antuan dying like Yamcha lmfao. For real though and I though the pokemon adventures manga was this dark!
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
lol hes beaten down. I think the pokemon manga might make for some interesting content though!
@CobiaCrossink Жыл бұрын
Didn't we see Snively again caged next to Dr. Light in the Sonic/Megaman Crossover? Can't remember what issue it was.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That might be something worth looking into! I didn't find anything when working on this video but I didn't spend a lot of time on the crossover so I might have actually just missed it
@Supperdude910 ай бұрын
>I'm not pushing my luck Considering that Sonic breaks the laws of physics and reality, getting two major wins in a row is actually pretty good. Actually is a smart play by Eggman.
@FantasticSamtastic10 ай бұрын
Actually, when you put it that way you make a good point lol
@Supperdude910 ай бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic In Sonic CD, Sonic traveled through time. How do you fight that?
@LordChrome3752 ай бұрын
This is the Eggman I prefer. I love what we have now but every now and again. We need to see this level of evil. Eggman was horrifying in Archie.
@kalinaribic6383 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Sonic? Dr. Robotnik? Am I a bad person for feeling bad for Svinley? I don't know why, but I feel awfull for him? Am I in the wrong for feeling so?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
It is a really dark story and although Snively is bad, to treat him this way is really cruel and inhumane. It reminds us that Eggman is a serious villain here.
@kalinaribic6383 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Yes. I agree. Even though Dr Robotnik is more of a comedicall villain, he had some moments where showed us as children that he can be just as dark, brutal, serious and scary as any other villain.
@solonsaturngaming3727Ай бұрын
all I can imagine is in Robotnik's Basement he had some bot that held him down there, and then when he went down there just Beats the crud out of him like Rocky did to the meat slab in the Freezer seen and when he was all done just breaking him down both mentally showing him he'll never see his love at all, or that he can feel her touch, and keeps telling him No one knows where the Real him is over and over again while he just tortures him. after all the anger that Eggman subsided for a bit he just in the end just put's him in a Animal Capsule but looking at it is designed that nothing he can try Snively is forever trapped in there and only One person can free him and that is Uncle who wants him good as dead now, makes me wonder how long he just broke his own family member and did what they do the Highly Dangerous Convicts in the US and made sure he see's no light and no human contact till he's dead.
@TheKoopaKingBowser Жыл бұрын
Archie Eggman is like Bowser but more insane. Not saying Bowser isn't insane though, the fucker was more then willing to destroy quadrillions of lives in Dream Team just to get the dream stone. But Eggman is more, batshit, mentally toying with people, insane. While having the charm that bowser exudes, which is why i like when they collab in the olympic games, albeit bowser is way more goofy and off topic. But of them have their time to shine, especially when Bowser is actually serious, of which he's the biggest menace, and when Eggman is just being batshit insane.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
When Eggman loses it he really loses it. For sure not someone you want to get on the bad side of
@TheKoopaKingBowser Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic What makes his short burst of insanity horrifying is that despite his lack of control of his mental state, he completely has control of his calmness and exuding power.
@kyleveers7 ай бұрын
Snivley and Dimitri both got locked into boxes and left to die
@FantasticSamtastic6 ай бұрын
People dying left and right!
@DylonBridsonАй бұрын
Even with just seeing SatAm, I know Snively deserves this
@SupremeMetalOverlord7 ай бұрын
"Mein Kampf Quote in Knuckles 23." What? Someone check that up.
@FantasticSamtastic7 ай бұрын
I've got you homie, I already have a video on the topic :P kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNV1e6qCxrvZnGQ.html
@SupremeMetalOverlord7 ай бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Huh… You learn something new everyday.
@LordMetalSonic1987Ай бұрын
If you think this version of Eggman is bad, then you shoukd check out Fleetway Sonic the Comic's incarnation of Dr. Robotnik. That mofo is the sickest and most evilly twisted version of the character in the entire Sonic metaverse.
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo082 жыл бұрын
That's so messed up
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
It actually left me having to do a double take when I read it because it was so grim
@switcheruby2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you'd say the A word
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I'm a disgrace 😥
@anthonysmith34152 жыл бұрын
Archie???
@wicked.a95011 ай бұрын
I hope we get to see Sage in the comics
@FantasticSamtastic11 ай бұрын
That would be so cool!
@EnsembleVGM6 ай бұрын
how did snively pull bro
@FantasticSamtastic6 ай бұрын
Confidence is key
@mr.t6863 Жыл бұрын
A menace to society is correct, but he still isn’t on that true ultimate menace. Since there’s a lot more worse things then this guy
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Not disagreeing but I'm curious as to who you would place above him
@Kira22558 Жыл бұрын
Scary
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Archie Eggman could be a real monster
@carnage0685 Жыл бұрын
wasn't the "THAT'S GOING TOO FAR" thing in Sonic X just Eggman being a manipulative asshole and faking it?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
maybe? It's been forever since I watched the show but I had just remembered that line as being so weird lol
@carnage0685 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic He immediately offers a partnership with the villain he said that to after Sonic leaves the area, so I would assume such.
@ClashCrash-rz9nrАй бұрын
Snivley doesn't die infact he shows up post reboot with his own plan of some kind all the while he has a job in the gaurdian units of the nations
@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Жыл бұрын
I miss eggman actually being evil. Sonic not being an oblivious moron. Shadow actually helping others and not being an edgelord. Etcetc The current state of sonics sad as hell
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I will say though IDW seems to have a pretty fun direction right now and Frontiers has given me hope for the next games
@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Frontiers was a glorified tech demo from 2009 💀
@uneditg6848 Жыл бұрын
i feel like metal sonic shoudlve been the leader
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I think having Sally has more of an impact, it's a real big demoralizing thing to see your former leader turned to the enemy
@damonsolomon228 Жыл бұрын
Bro he says it's the metal series of robots meaning that's metal Sally not Mecha sally
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
nope, if we read the comic we can see 3 pages after the metal series is introduced Eggman refers to her as Mecha Sally which shows that that is still Mecha Sally who leads the metal series.
@Soap-Face6 ай бұрын
0:28
@FantasticSamtastic6 ай бұрын
I legit forgot I did that lol
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
My god
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
There is no god here, just Eggman 🥚
@simonsanous268511 ай бұрын
22 minutes ain't that long
@FantasticSamtastic11 ай бұрын
The original uncut video was over 45min long, there was a lot that I cut out that happens during this arc but isn't relevant to mecha Sally. Also, at the time these videos took me about an hour or more to edit a minute so I spent a minimum of 22 hours editing that video and that's pretty long for me 😂