The Death of John Ford

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When the Pictures Got Bigger

When the Pictures Got Bigger

Күн бұрын

For a director whose career is as vast as John Ford’s is, even another 45-minute video covering it may not suffice. From Stagecoach to The Searchers to The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, join me on this mammoth career retrospective of the films (and death) of John “Pappy” Ford…
For those of you who missed Part 1 - The Legend of John Ford:
• The Legend of John Ford
00:00 Introduction
00:57: 1939
06:23 The Horizon
13:20 The War is Over
26:28 Seven Masterpieces, One Decade.
36:50 Ford’s Final Years
44:52 The Legend Dies
Sources Used
(1) The Carey Family in the John Ford Western Universe, classic film obsessions blog, 2016.
(2) Carey, Harry Jr. Company of Heroes -- my Life as an Actor in the John Ford Stock Company. Taylor Publishing, 2013.
(3) Eyman, Scott, Print the Legend: The Life and Times of John Ford, Simon & Schuster, 1999.
(4) Bogdanovich, Peter, 'Directed by John Ford', documentary from 1971.
(5) Kitses, Jim, Horizons West, British Film Institute Publishing, 2004.
(6) Warshow, Robert, "The Westerner" in The Immediate Experience, Harvard University Press, latest edition 2001.
(7) Various authors, Wikipedia.
(8) Anderson, Lindsay. About John Ford. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1981.
(9) Anobile, Richard. John Ford’s Stagecoach. New York: Darien House, 1975.
(10) Baxter, John. The Cinema of John Ford. New York: A. S. Barnes, 1971.
(11) Buscombe, Edward. Stagecoach. London: British Film Institute, 1992.
(12) Carey Jr., Harry. Company of Heroes. Metuchen: Scarecrow Press, 1994.
(13) Darby, William. John Ford’s Westerns. Jefferson: McFarland, 1996.
(14) Davis, Ronald L. John Ford: Hollywood’s Old Master. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1995.
(15) Dunne, Philip. How Green Was My Valley: The Screenplay. Santa Barbara: Santa Teresa California Press, 1998.
(16) Ford, Dan. Pappy: The Life of John Ford. Englewood Cliffs: Prentice-Hall, 1979.
(17) French, Warren. Filmguide to The Grapes of Wrath. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1973.
(18) Gallagher, Tag. John Ford: The Man and His Films. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1986.
(19) McBride, Joseph, and Michael Wilmington. John Ford. New York: Da Capo, 1975.
(20) Place, J. A. The Non-Western Films of John Ford. Seacaucus: Citadel Press, 1979.
(21) Place, J. A. The Western Films of John Ford. Seacaucus: Citadel Press, 1974.
(22) Sarris, Andrew. The John Ford Movie Mystery. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1975.
(23) Sinclair, Andrew. John Ford. New York: Dial, 1979.
(24) Zolotow, Maurice. Shooting Star. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1974.
(25) Podmeifyoucan, Ford at Fox Box Set Unboxing. • Ford At Fox Box Set Un...
(26) Spielberg, Steven, 'The Fabelmans', film from 2022 with David Lynch as Ford.

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@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 8 ай бұрын
Regrettably, this video was just hit with two copyright claims. My options were to delete the video or to delete those copyrighted segments. I chose the latter option, and so that’s why the video might seem choppy now. Hopefully one day I can re-edit the entire thing, including my How the West Was Won video too perhaps, in some sort of John Ford Redux video. Let me know if anyone would have any interest in that. I’m sorry about this and for the diminished content. Hopefully everyone can understand and still enjoy the video in its current state. Thank you :)
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 22 күн бұрын
Of course we understand. Those copyright strikes can be brutal and are frequently making the news headlines these days, a year since you published this video, in the way they’re both used and abused. It’s sad that strikes tend to be done automatically by algorithms now, rather than thinking people who might see that your use is fair, transformative and justified. And that it helps, not hurts, these companies. Studios sometimes act like the very people a John Ford hero would take down. I made an offer in the part 1 Ford video, under your thread, which was completely sincere. I hope you see it and let me know? It would be a small thing for me, but not so much for you. And it would make me very happy to help you in this small way, if you’ll accept? No strings, I promise.
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 22 күн бұрын
P.S. Your number 5 pick wound up completely expiated. Now, I’m left wondering what it was?
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 19 күн бұрын
@@ashroskell I saw your offer and it made my year! I can’t believe that, it would be the kindest thing anyone has ever done for me, and would inspire me greatly as I continue to make videos. Thank you thank you thank you!!! I hope you see my other reply and email me, I’m eagerly checking my inbox 🥹 Thank you Ash, from the bottom of my heart. And to answer your question, number 5 was The Quiet Man!! Which is also the movie I’ve talked most about on this channel haha, it’s come up in 4 separate videos!
@sun131089
@sun131089 3 ай бұрын
Nothing like a John Ford film the more time passes by the more he will be celebrated …..such absolute shattering poetry in every story he told ❤
@sarahrozaner3494
@sarahrozaner3494 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this video! Ford really made every film he did into art and his legend will live on forever in the film industry. This was such a great documentary. Thank you
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!! I completely agree and I’m glad to have viewers like you too :)
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
In case you missed it, this is part 2 of a 2-part Ford series! The first part, The Legend of John Ford, can be found here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mteReKeizavGlGg.html
@anthonypile395
@anthonypile395 11 күн бұрын
The director is everything. No coincidence that Ford, Huston, Hitchcock, Wilder, Spielberg never made a bad movie. They all share the unique ability to make you feel something for every character while surrounding it all with great action.
@vanpelt2321
@vanpelt2321 Жыл бұрын
A shame you didn't stretch it out to three episodes in which case it would've been your Ford Trilogy. Devoured this directly after watching your first installment. Yes, would dearly love to have an entire episode about the magnificent "How The West Was Won", the scenes between Grant and Sherman being a reboot of the "Colter Craven" episode of "Wagon Train" that Pappy directed in 1960 with Duke credited as "Michael Morris". Please keep us posted.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
I would love to do an episode on “How the West Was Won,” and all of the Cinerama films. Your comment made me move that idea high on the priority list! Thank you again for your kind words and knowledge, I’ve loved having you here and hope you’ll enjoy my future classic Hollywood content :)
@jupiterkansas
@jupiterkansas Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary. Surprising that there's still a ton of John Ford movies I haven't seen yet. I thought I'd mention a few non-Ford films: I saw Wagon Master after watching Westward the Women. Very similar stories but Westward the Women is phenomenal. Wagon Master was nice but paled in comparison. And if you want to see the classic western transition in to the spaghetti western, check out Man of the West.
@eddie12454
@eddie12454 8 ай бұрын
Wagonmaster was just Ford poetry and wasn't one of his great profitable Westerns but Ben Johnson stands out. Such a natural cowboy actor.
@sun131089
@sun131089 3 ай бұрын
I love the husband wife relationship in the long gray line John Ford ❤
@stignielsen1169
@stignielsen1169 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for making these videos! John Ford is my all-time favorite filmmaker and certainly one of the greatest American poets who ever lived. My personal top 30 would probably look like this: 1. The Searchers 2. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 3. My Darling Clementine 4. The Grapes of Wrath 5. Stagecoach 6. Fort Apache 7. How Green Was My Valley 8. The Informer 9. The Quiet Man 10. The Long Voyage Home 11. Young Mr. Lincoln 12. She Wore a Yellow Ribbon 13. They Were Expendable 14. Mister Roberts 15. Seven Women 16. The Prisoner of Shark Island 17. Wagon Master 18. Rio Grande 19. Drums Along the Mohawk 20. Steamboat Around the Bend 21. Sergeant Rutledge 22. Pilgrimage 23. 3 Godfathers 24. The Horse Soldiers 25. Wee Willie Winkie 26. The Hurricane 27. Donovan's Reef 28. Cheyenne Autumn 29. 3 Bad Men 30. The Iron Horse
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 3 ай бұрын
You have excellent taste!! I especially applaud you for having The Informer in your top 10, even if I’d personally switch The Long Voyage Home and Young Mr. Lincoln (the latter has to be top 10 for me!). Thanks for watching these videos, I’m honored that you did and happy that you enjoyed them!
@stignielsen1169
@stignielsen1169 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Such a list is always a compromise. ‘Young Mr. Lincoln’ is pure poetry and mythic beauty, but the poignancy of ‘The Informer’ always moved me. Most people regard ‘She Wore a Yellow Ribbon’ as the greatest of the cavalry films, but with all its beauty I still find ‘Fort Apache’ to be a SO much stronger film.
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 22 күн бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that Three Godfathers was the template for many copies, including Leonard Nimoy’s smash hit movie, Three Men And A Baby. Nimoy was not shy about acknowledging the film’s inspiration, and several subsequent movies (internationally as well as Hollywood) thought they were copying Nimoy’s without realising they owed their debt to Ford.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 19 күн бұрын
@@ashroskell that’s a great fun fact, thank you :) I can see how Three Godfathers could be such a great template, it’s fantastically simple and perfectly paced.
@allanalogmusicat78rpm
@allanalogmusicat78rpm Жыл бұрын
36:20 Re: Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry, Gene was comparing his show's concept with that of the successful and long-running Western TV series WAGON TRAIN. WAGON TRAIN had a core group of regulars, but each episode focused more on the characters who made up, or those who encounter the wagon train. An anthology series, not one with a season-wide plot or even multi-episode arcs, is what Roddenberry was proposing. That, and Gene wanted to use a TV hit favorite, as a point of comparison.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the added context, I wasn’t sure exactly why Roddenberry made the comparison but your explanation is very informative :) Wagon Train is actually a tv adaptation of the Ford film Wagon Master, as I understand it.
@btraven7681
@btraven7681 8 ай бұрын
...and when you consider that Ward Bond was the star of "Wagon Train"@@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@63DW89A
@63DW89A Жыл бұрын
The BEST documentary on John Ford ever. You, Sir, have gained a subscriber. SUPERBLY put together. I wish you the best. If your videos continue at the masterful level of these two on John Ford, you will rapidly gain subscribers. In any list of the top ten Directors of All time, there are only positions 4 to 10 to fill. Because the top three, are John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford, to paraphrase Orson Wells!
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
This comment made my week!! Thank you so much for your support :) These videos take a lot of work but it’s all worth it for comments like this, and if even one person walks away from my channel learning something new about classic Hollywood, then I’ll be thrilled :D Thank you so, so much!!
@CMC050
@CMC050 7 ай бұрын
I memorized that quote by heart. When asked about who Welles favorite directors were he simply stated: “Well I prefer the old masters. By which I mean John Ford, John Ford and John Ford. He’s a poet and a comedian. With Ford at his best, you get a sense for what the Earth is made of.” Chills
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 22 күн бұрын
Gideon’s Day was the last movie I ever watched with my dad, while visiting him from Scotland, down in England. We were as fascinated by Ford’s take on our British culture, at a time that my dad was old enough to remember distinctly, since he was 14 when the war ended. It’s an oddity, since its humour is pervasive, if rather understated, but the bank robbery scene is brutally violent and quite jarring in this context of an otherwise rather cerebral detective thriller with gentle (and gentlemanly) humour in it. The villains are deliciously diabolical. Far from one of Fords best, or even one of his more memorable movies, but an elegant collectors item with charming performances and a decent script nevertheless, not to be overlooked by the Ford connoisseur.
@Michaela1942
@Michaela1942 2 ай бұрын
I've always loved, loved, loved Wagon Master. So glad you like it, too. Fabulous film.
@CliffBronson1212
@CliffBronson1212 Ай бұрын
Well done 👏 My Darling Clementine ...Grapes Of Wrath ...remarkable films 🎥 💚
@schaffermatt
@schaffermatt 4 ай бұрын
John Wayne and William Holden got along great on “The Horse Soldiers,” according to both Scott Eyman and Stephanie Powers. They even bonded over their shared opposition to Ford’s ‘no drinking’ policy on this shoot. What is your source for your contention that they couldn’t stand each other?
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s spooky, the facial resemblance between Ford and David Lynch.
@jubalcalif9100
@jubalcalif9100 28 күн бұрын
As Snagglepuss would say, "Indubitably!"
@noneofyourbusiness1114
@noneofyourbusiness1114 6 ай бұрын
Undoubtfully John ford is the goat of film making tbh. He’s inspired nearly every great director to this very day whether directly or indirectly.
@sillypenta
@sillypenta Жыл бұрын
Really loving your videos; incredible for a small channel
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! That’s so kind of you to say :) I’ll continue to work really hard on my content and output.
@Duketributechannel
@Duketributechannel 8 ай бұрын
I congratulate you on your video. I've seen many videos, I've seen I think about twenty-five of Pappy's films and I love him very much as a director together with our Sergio Leone. I noticed in your video a very pleasant flow, a rightly unconcealed enthusiasm and I really liked recognizing myself in many things you said. I think How green was my valley is an absolute masterpiece that is very difficult to surpass and I will look at it again and again for as long as I live....Ah last thing... a piece of the video is missing or you didn't mention the quiet man? I don't think I was distracted, I think it's a very good film. Well done and thank you!
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 8 ай бұрын
Good morning and thank you for your kind words! They really put a smile on my face :) I adore The Quiet Man but unfortunately the segment of the video where I talked about it (it was about 3-4 minutes long) had a copyright claim and I had to decide between editing out that segment or deleting the whole video. As much as it pains me to not talk about The Quiet Man in my Ford doc, luckily I have talked about it two other times now on this channel, so if you’re interested in my thoughts on it you could check out these videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaujgJiJ0Jm2Z2g.htmlsi=suJLCAhHfIj3XUM2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5-onMyDzJfRdqs.htmlsi=FZ6BAJmrGz3pkZ1F Cheers and thank you again for your kind comment. Have a great day!
@nickbenton4881
@nickbenton4881 Жыл бұрын
Again absolutely incredible documentary work!
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick!! I really appreciate your support on both videos here :)
@mzjamm2
@mzjamm2 16 күн бұрын
I just LOVE Stagecoach. It's just such a fascinating movie.❤
@theboldfurriskey
@theboldfurriskey 6 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable tribute. Many thanks.
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Ай бұрын
Ford got along well with Ava Gardner (who was an Irish American, of both Catholic and Protestant heritage). She was a better actress than she ever got credit for. Lincoln Theodore Monroe Andrew Perry (Stepin Fetchet) and Ford were close friends. (Both were devout Catholics).
@acdragonrider
@acdragonrider 5 ай бұрын
I saw the documentary five came back recently and they placed a great deal of emphasis on They Were expendable including many anecdotes. Hoping to see it soon.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 5 ай бұрын
Hey AC, yeah that’s a great one! I watched it as well, and really wanted to make a video on Ford at War, covering his wartime PSAs and the movie They Were Expendable, and a few others. That may come eventually! But that’s why I kind of glossed over those productions in this video
@daniellajones2188
@daniellajones2188 Жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe that man directed 140 films, that’s amazing! These past two videos were super informative and entertaining! The amount of work you put into each one of your videos always blows me away 🤩
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for always watching and all your kind comments!! Yeah, Ford was very prolific!
@allanalogmusicat78rpm
@allanalogmusicat78rpm Жыл бұрын
I think over half of his films were silent films made before 1928. It includes a lot of two reel (20 minute) Westerns.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 6 ай бұрын
@@allanalogmusicat78rpm Many are lost sadly.
@ryanclark1124
@ryanclark1124 3 ай бұрын
Bravo! Many thanks for this thorough look at Ford!
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate you watching :)
@shuaigege12345
@shuaigege12345 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid kid. Nice channel too. Keep it coming )))
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m really glad you enjoyed it :) This comment made my morning!
@user-fn5xw7if9t
@user-fn5xw7if9t Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of your 2 video essays on Ford. He is one of my favorite filmmakers along with Hitchcock in that they used cinema in visual terms. Visual storytelling at its finest. Just curious, but what is your #2 Ford film as you mentioned The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance being #1, Wagon Master being #3. Any plans to do one on Hitchcock as well?
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I go back and forth but I’d probably say The Grapes of Wrath. The top 7 or so would be Liberty Valance, Grapes of Wrath, Wagon Master, The Long Gray Line, Young Mr. Lincoln, The Searchers, and My Darling Clementine. But there’s so, so many that I love. And yes! I think a big Hitchcock video in this vein will be something I release in the beginning of 2024 to kick off a “Season 2” of the channel :) Thanks for your support! I really appreciate it.
@user-fn5xw7if9t
@user-fn5xw7if9t Жыл бұрын
@@whenthepicturesgotbigger Anytime and that sounds awesome. Kudos to the best video essay on Ford. Looking forward to checking that out. Your editing skills are fantastic and as a result your video essays have the potential to turn anyone interested. I just had a hunch that you might do one on Hitchcock. Your profile pic gave it away lol
@johnmulvey5121
@johnmulvey5121 8 ай бұрын
No criticism! Great videos,thanks
@CliffBronson1212
@CliffBronson1212 Ай бұрын
Remarkable career 👏 #JohnFord ...to put it lightly
@OldmovieMike
@OldmovieMike 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I subbed!! woohoo!!
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad to have you as part of the community!!
@geertdecoster5301
@geertdecoster5301 13 күн бұрын
Life is but a world made up of shadows. The shadow that John Ford still casts is large and broath
@PeterOHalloran-hf2ho
@PeterOHalloran-hf2ho Күн бұрын
His parents emigrated from the west of Ireland not far from where I live ❤
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Ай бұрын
I liked parts of What Price Glory? It is one of the better films about the pre-World War II USMC . . . .
@prerna_padma
@prerna_padma Жыл бұрын
Frickin awesome!!!
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Ай бұрын
The documentary about Louie Puller was partially filmed at VMI, Puller's alma mater . . . .
@scottgwelch6904
@scottgwelch6904 Ай бұрын
General Lewis B. Puller.
@acdragonrider
@acdragonrider Жыл бұрын
(Will watch this in full soon but wanted to mention this first) How do you rationalize the problematic themes and aspects of his westerns that people critique nowadays and how we can make Viewers more accepting ? I know people who absolutely will not watch Searchers. I even TA’d a class this year (*clears throat* at AFI) where the students protested the showing of it to a man and petitioned the Dean to stop the class lecture before it could happen without fully understanding the teacher’s reasons for using it for the lesson. 🤦🏻 I can’t help noticing some of the issues and getting slightly triggered say in Searchers. I also never liked Wayne’s acting and persona as much as most. I don’t know I just find him wooden and feel he’s very ego driven. I prefer other western actors such as Gary Cooper or James Stewart. High Noon is my favorite western. But I still saw the film Searchers, unlike those students, and found some things to appreciate.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you so much for your comment! I hope when you’re able to finish the video that you like the rationalizations of the problematic themes, but in short the thesis of this video is simply that Ford was a lot more liberal than people realize. Especially after World War 2, which of course includes The Searchers, I find a lot of Ford films to be surprisingly empathetic and anti-prejudice. For The Searchers, I note how Ethan Edwards is possibly more “savage” than any of the Native American characters, and in the pseudo-sequel to The Searchers (Two Rode Together), Ford doubles down on this idea that the cowboys are the most savage characters of the frontier. Additionally, films like Cheyenne Autumn, 7 Women, Sergeant Rutledge, etc., which were all made near the end of Ford’s career, continue to demonstrate empathy for under-represented characters of the first half of Ford’s career. Which isn’t even beginning to cover the repeated sympathy for the working class which appears in nearly every Ford film. In short, I won’t deny the problematic aspects of certain Ford films, nor would I condemn anyone who chooses not to watch his movies for that reason. But I would urge anyone who believes that Ford is too problematic and old-fashioned for his movies to be any good - and yet has never actually seen a John Ford film - to at least give one of those aforementioned late-career films a chance. Ultimately, I’d rationalize making these videos and watching these films simply out of interest in classic Hollywood, and in making a one-stop video which covers every year and every film from Ford’s legendary career. I really appreciate this comment :) And hopefully we can make viewers more accepting the same way that services like Max or Disney+ include content advisories before their more-problematic films: by contextualizing them. The Searchers wasn’t made today, but it should still be studied for how it affected what is made today.
@acdragonrider
@acdragonrider Жыл бұрын
@@whenthepicturesgotbiggerappreciate the in depth analysis! I’ll make a trip down papi Ford’s filmography in the next few months. Keep on posting videos!
@mcarvalho321
@mcarvalho321 Жыл бұрын
If I can intrude, I'd say watching Ford's films are basic to anyone interested in cinema as he is, in my opinion, the greatest filmmaker ever and one of the greatest artists. Being such a monumental artist, of course he will have his contradictions, but that's what makes him so interesting. Ford sure is out of touch with today's correct ways of portraying minorities but still his whole career is about telling stories of different groups and cultures interacting. The Searchers seems to be the most criticized today, but I see it as the greatest film on intolerance ever made, showing how both indians and whites become desensibilyzed by hatred. Taking the movies for their face value and not giving a more profound thought to them seems to me the easy way out. The Quiet Man, which is my favorite Ford movie, ends with John Wayne pushing Maureen O'Hara through the country so he can return her to her brother. That's maybe the most sexist thing to put on a movie and there's no doubt it wouldn't happen in any movie today, but still O'Hara's character is one the of the greatest in Ford's films, and it's a whole movie about how society, culture and traditions comes in the way of love, and that's very much a modern theme. I wouldn't say he isn't conservative in some ways (and there's nothing wrong with that alone, Howard Hawks was much more conservative than Ford and is also a genius), but as I said it is what makes him great. Just as an example, he loves the american ways and institutions but constantly is showing them destroying his characters lifes (for example, the army in Fort Apache, Long Gray Line and Wings of Eagles), this is way more interesting than an army propaganda or a simple denial of the army. So I think simply writing Ford out as a problematic old director is really sad, since the guy is an artist to be studied in all his good and bad portraits, in the things we still find relevant and the old-fashioned in his movies.
@tombrennan6312
@tombrennan6312 8 ай бұрын
Ford was an old fashioned FDR style "put it on the check" liberal. It's much easier being a mere social liberal--corporate money isn't threatened.
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 22 күн бұрын
Surely, the Dollars Trilogy of Sergio Leone’s would be the logical comparison to Ford’s Cavalry Trilogy? Three iconic westerns, by auteur’s, starring the same actor who is not necessarily playing the same character in all three, but can easily be doing so in our head canons? More so than the Cornetto Trilogy, which references the Dollars Trilogy in all three movies, without referencing Ford’s, at any rate. But the Dollars Trilogy references Ford visually repeatedly.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 19 күн бұрын
@@ashroskell yep, and the biggest similarity is that they’re two of the best trilogies ever made! (I do like the cornetto trilogy too, but Shaun of the Dead is no The Good The Bad and The Ugly, haha)
@bloggersanonymous6159
@bloggersanonymous6159 Жыл бұрын
You just gained yourself a subscriber buddy, hey, have you seen Django? The original one that is
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it but I’ll add it to my watch list! Thanks for the recommendation!
@johnnelson8458
@johnnelson8458 Ай бұрын
I generally enjoyed this video, but it contains at least one embarrassing factual error. Gene Roddenberry pitched Star Trek to studio executives as "Wagon Train to the Stars," not "Wagon Master to the Stars." Thus, the reference was to the popular tv series of the day, not Ford's film "Wagonmaster."
@jubalcalif9100
@jubalcalif9100 28 күн бұрын
As I do when I take off my hat, you make a good point!
@Ananymo0se
@Ananymo0se Жыл бұрын
17:24 anyone notice the game of thrones reference?
@Ananymo0se
@Ananymo0se Жыл бұрын
However I did NOT appreciate how you showed Samwell Tarly (Sam the Slayer), in both of the GOT clips but not Jon Snow; Born of Ice🐺and Fire🐲, The Bastard of Winterfell, The White Wolf, The Prince that was Promised, The greatest Swordsman who ever walked, The Resurrected, The first to make allies with Wildlings, The Beater of Bastards, The Knower of Nothing, The Killer of White Walkers, The Protector of the Wall, A man of the Nights Watch, The Savior of Westeros, The Lord of Winterfell, The one true heir to the Iron Throne, The 998th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, The Lawful son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, Aegon Targaryen, Sixth of his name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, and The King in the North. But other than that, loved the Ford Video! 👍
@bradysanders6544
@bradysanders6544 Жыл бұрын
I noticed! but he didn’t include Joffrey or Hodor so I nearly turned off the video 😂
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Ай бұрын
You don't know how great a character 1SG Braxton Rutelage was, if you have not served. The LT played by Jeffrey Hunter is probably a good officer since he had a great 1SG . . . .
@stephenward7856
@stephenward7856 4 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable and informative. Good job :) BTW did you challenge the copyright claims? Your clip usages seem to fall squarely under fair use.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much :) And yes I did, as with all copyright claims we get. It’s so unpredictable. Sometimes the challenges are accepted and the copyright gets overruled, and sometimes we’re rejected again with no further explanation. I agree with you though, as far as I’m concerned showing 10 seconds of The Quiet Man should be no issue :/
@stephenward7856
@stephenward7856 4 ай бұрын
Hah, there's a pub in Cong where the Quiet Man was shot where they play the movie around the clock on videotape. Don't tell anyone though :)@@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 4 ай бұрын
Haha no way, that’s cool! I have to go :D
@scottgwelch6904
@scottgwelch6904 Ай бұрын
⁠And the hostel in Cong plays it every night.
@eddie12454
@eddie12454 2 күн бұрын
He was some director. Ford fan.
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Ай бұрын
What I disliked about the Cavalry Trilogy is a Sailor who made the best films ever made about the US Army.
@bloggersanonymous6159
@bloggersanonymous6159 Жыл бұрын
Bets part of the video is when you talked about the cavalry trilogy and Sergeant Rutledge. The Buffalo soldiers are always forgotten but youre right this was even before To kill a mockingbird. I always liked Ford
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks :) And yeah, the cavalry trilogy are some of my absolute favorite Ford films, with Sergeant Rutledge (and, in a way, Wagon Master) being nice little epilogues and spiritual sequels to that trilogy. One day I’d love to see Criterion release all 3 or 5 of those films. There really isn’t a single dud there.
@CMC050
@CMC050 7 ай бұрын
When Straight Shooting was released in 1917 starring Harry Carey, critics described it as fast paced and made DW GRIFFITHS movies look “sluggish”. I ’ve done my research, read my fair share of books and opinions on John Ford. He’s not only the greatest director (4 best director Oscar awards, not one for a freakin western) but probably the most important director ever as well. His influences on the art form of filmmaking is so immense we can’t even comprehend how many filmmakers he’s inspired. Orson Welles watched Stagecoach daily while filming Citizen Kane. Kurosawa when asked about what he studied to get his framing he said “I study John Ford”. Leone, obviously. David Lean, Kazan. Hitchcock (the anti Ford in terms of style) said “Fords pictures are visually gratifying. This is all prior to the Movie Brat/New Hollywood era of the 70s that everyone today references. Spielberg and Scorsese constantly cite not only Ford, but The Searchers as one of there favorite movies. Just watch Star Wars and The Searchers back to back uncanny. Spielberg’s visual style for Private Ryan came from Fords live Battle of Midway documentary. All I’m saying is the directors that were inspired by Ford went on to Influence pretty much everyone else. Fincher, Tarantino, Nolan, PTA. It all starts from Admiral Ford. And it always will.
@CMC050
@CMC050 7 ай бұрын
Say what you will about the man. He was born in the early 1890s. A man of his time. The only guy I will hear an argument for being more important that Ford in the art of film is Stanley Kubrick.
@CMC050
@CMC050 7 ай бұрын
I also 1000% agree that My Darling Clementine is one of the best movies ever made. It’s very underrated on his lists and is my solid number 2 Ford western. A mix of noir and a western. How great is that! It’s free on KZfaq and I recommend all film fans to watch.
@guileniam
@guileniam 7 ай бұрын
Tarantino hates ford though he's said this on record
@CMC050
@CMC050 7 ай бұрын
Him and Spike Lee both have been on record saying that. I can point to at least 3 different "doorway" inspired scenes from the Searchers into Kill Bill, Inglorious Basterds and Django Unchained. And if he's influenced by De Palma and Leone then he has to be somewhat influenced by Ford. De Palama loves My Darling Clementine. Knows it shot for shot. Leone obviously loved the Mann, Ford Hawks westerns. It all stems back to this guy whether they know it or not. @@guileniam
@guileniam
@guileniam 7 ай бұрын
@@CMC050 name the doorway scenes I'm intrigued. He's obvs influenced by the people he inspired but direct inspiration? I wonder if a director who loathes Ford would be squirming to put a Ford type shot in
@hankworden3850
@hankworden3850 2 ай бұрын
Watch Mr Roberts for Jack Lemmon
@jubalcalif9100
@jubalcalif9100 28 күн бұрын
Indeed! He won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar for his performance.
@johnmulvey5121
@johnmulvey5121 8 ай бұрын
Excellent! but not much mention of the role of music in Ford's films.
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, I love the music in Ford’s films and wish that I had talked about it more. But alas, it’s hard fitting Ford’s career into two videos without cutting out quite a bit. Perhaps I can make another video solely on how Ford uses music in his movies! Thank you for watching and commenting :)
@andreadaleyutronebel5894
@andreadaleyutronebel5894 3 ай бұрын
Stars and Bars forever, baby. Sweet Home Alabama.
@scottgwelch6904
@scottgwelch6904 Ай бұрын
Generally good, yet weakened by applying today’s sensibilities to yesterday’s films. Add to it, Admiral Ford’s war service and films are trivialized. Sex Hygiene is truly strange - Ford himself didn’t like it - yet it is an effective instructional film. The services were still using it over 30 years later. The two Oscars awarded for the wartime documentaries speak for themselves. Add to this, he supervised combat photography for the Normandy invasion, supervised collection of film evidence for the Nuremberg trials, and supervised production of numerous instructional and informational films contributing to the war effort. He did this at a great personal and financial sacrifice, even donating his salary from They Were Expendable for construction of the Field Photo Farm, a retreat for his wartime unit. As Robert Parrish said, he was the only one of the wartime directors who didn’t forget his men.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure I’m not the first to correct your pronunciation of Andy Devine. It’s pronounced like divine-like God. Not “Deveen.” Good work otherwise from a very old, old movie fan.
@syouut
@syouut 28 күн бұрын
J O H N F O R D
@johnmulvey5121
@johnmulvey5121 3 ай бұрын
This is very good. But it's a pity the narrator has one of those now typical modern American accents. i can't describe it in print but a whining raise at the end of words or sentences: ''that way of making moviess'' '' 7 Womennn '' . It's quite a new thing. Older Americans don't do it. It sounds awful and in some cases unbearable. Someone told me it's known as the ''high rising terminal'' or ''up talk''. Another person told me that it's known as ''vocal fry'' but someone else said that the whiny sound is neither of these ? Don't mean to be rude but it spoils and undermines an otherwise excellent analysis.
@c.johnson1691
@c.johnson1691 5 ай бұрын
James Earp was not killed. It was Morgan Earp.
@c.johnson1691
@c.johnson1691 5 ай бұрын
Watt was never the marshal or sheriff. Virgil Earp was the marshal.
@andreadaleyutronebel5894
@andreadaleyutronebel5894 3 ай бұрын
Uhhhhhhh, Pinky is so wacist, boo hoo woo. LOL
@c.johnson1691
@c.johnson1691 5 ай бұрын
I was disappointed. It was boring to me.
@c.johnson1691
@c.johnson1691 6 ай бұрын
Sound boring.
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 2 ай бұрын
Wow. You pulled me up short there. I’ll admit that I was multitasking when I heard you call out The Long Gray Line, a movie I saw once, a decade ago or more and had forgotten was one of John Ford’s. Not his best by a long chalk, nevertheless, a thoroughly entertaining movie that made me reevaluate my opinion of Tyrone Power as naught but a swashbuckler. Great inclusion in your review. 🫡
@whenthepicturesgotbigger
@whenthepicturesgotbigger 2 ай бұрын
I adore The Long Gray Line! And I agree that it’s not one of Ford’s absolute best (which is a testament to his incredible canon more than anything); nevertheless I’m glad to have included it in this video if only for your comment! Thank you and thanks for watching :)
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