The Demon Doodles of 1565

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hochelaga

hochelaga

2 жыл бұрын

The Drolatic Dreams of Pantagruel is a collection of 120 bizarre "demon doodles". Many of these monsters are comical, striking absurd and amusing poses. Others are a little more disturbing, with unnerving expressions and emotionless hollow faces. These sketches are so fantastically bizarre: they tap into the disturbing art of Hieronymous Bosch, and the grotesque monsters from medieval manuscripts.
Curiously, there are no words to accompany these drawings, so we are left to guess their meaning. I suspect that beneath these whimsical sketches lie hidden messages that poke fun at the powers that be. From hidden jokes at the expense of the nobility and the Catholic church. Whilst I have attempted to explain the meaning of some, I’m at a loss for words with most of the others... but it's fun to guess!
After a week away on vacation (it was wonderful thanks), I am back to my regular schedule. This video was a blast to make, and am still learning a lot as I go. I hope you enjoy this one! The channel is at 586k subscribers, thank you all!
H.
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Sources & Further Reading:
The Drolatic Dreams of Pantagruel (1565) - Public Doman Review:
publicdomainreview.org/collec...
The Drolatic Dreams of Pantagruel: 120 Woodcuts Envision the Grotesque Inhabitants of Rabelais’ World (1565):
www.openculture.com/2022/03/t...
All 120 Doodles:
gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv...
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Music:
Intro - Epic of Gilgamesh in Sumerian by Peter Pringle
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The Inspector by David Celeste
Via Epidemic Sound
Erudition by Ambre Jaune
Via Epidemic Sound
Two Lovers' Bane by David Celeste
Via Epidemic Sound
Wandering Soul by Gabriel Lewis
Via Epidemic Sound
Outro - Peaceful Ambient Music by CO.AG
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License: creativecommons.org/licenses/b...
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@anastasijahabarova1533
@anastasijahabarova1533 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine flipping through the pages of this thing with your friends back in the 1500’s going “that’s u” and “mood”
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 2 жыл бұрын
Modern humor and humans really haven't changed all that much, have we 😅 People should stop freaking out over the "degradation" of modern and especially gen-z humor and surreal memes, it has apparently all happened before 🤷‍♂️😆
@SuperSlick1996
@SuperSlick1996 2 жыл бұрын
The more things change the more the stay the same XD
@HandBananaTAPEbutwithaR
@HandBananaTAPEbutwithaR 2 жыл бұрын
"Lit"
@cylefarrar9776
@cylefarrar9776 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf are you trying to say??? Speak English
@Markzuckfuckerburg
@Markzuckfuckerburg 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god how annoying
@EliB207
@EliB207 2 жыл бұрын
When ever I see things like this I just think "people think modern humor is weird"
@firesoullv
@firesoullv 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I chuckled at the "barrel with a knife"
@roachdoggjr1940
@roachdoggjr1940 2 жыл бұрын
Most modern humor is lazy.
@warrix8312
@warrix8312 2 жыл бұрын
The more history I learn, the more I realize that humans really haven't changed much in the last few centuries.
@willowdigger617
@willowdigger617 2 жыл бұрын
A dog walks into a bar. “I can’t see.” “I’ll open this one”
@asianinthetree8912
@asianinthetree8912 2 жыл бұрын
@@willowdigger617 A man walks into Electrical. “I can’t see.” ඞAmongusඞ
@AllComposersbyNumbers
@AllComposersbyNumbers 2 жыл бұрын
"The Ugly Duchess" is actually thought to be by Leonardo da Vinci, after he made a red chalk sketch made in about c. 1480. Although, the authenticity has been tossed between Da Vinci and Quentin Matsys. The red chalk sketch is signed with Leonardo's signature, but some art historians and archivists have stated that Matsys sent the sketch to Da Vinci, and he just signed it after he received it. Leonardo and Quentin were actually good friends during their lifetimes, and often gave each other different ideas. Another fun fact is that "The Ugly Duchess" inspired Lewis Carroll's illustrations for _Alice's Adventures in Wonderland_ more specifically Lewis's portrayal of The Duchess, in her 15th century horned headdress, decorated with popular Medieval-influenced patterns and flourishes.
@AllComposersbyNumbers
@AllComposersbyNumbers Жыл бұрын
@King Mob You're very welcome!
@chrisv8024
@chrisv8024 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out though ......lol
@ThinWhiteAxe
@ThinWhiteAxe 3 ай бұрын
John Tenniel did the illustrations for Lewis Carroll's books.
@Man_fay_the_Bru
@Man_fay_the_Bru 3 ай бұрын
My gran told me no matter what you’re told, da vinci was black
@AllComposersbyNumbers
@AllComposersbyNumbers 3 ай бұрын
@@Man_fay_the_Bru Oh? Well that's an interesting take on things
@frogboi7
@frogboi7 Жыл бұрын
Seeing stuff like this makes me think of how similar humor has been over the ages, some modern examples I’d call close to this are the “I’m sorry Jon” Garfield pieces and the deformed and horrific looking wiki how illustrations Can’t wait to see what people think of those in 100 years
@caitlynursula1527
@caitlynursula1527 Жыл бұрын
gorefield
@carolusiii1909
@carolusiii1909 Жыл бұрын
imagine those historian when seeing our deep fried memes
@N4m3B33
@N4m3B33 4 ай бұрын
When you realize that going back 2000 years is only 100 generations at most, you'll see that we haven't evolved at all since those times.
@pharaohsmagician8329
@pharaohsmagician8329 3 ай бұрын
Great comment lol! In today's age Banana Cat / Apple Cat / Happy Cat memes are my favorite
@jesserivera6611
@jesserivera6611 2 ай бұрын
idk too much about it but one video i watched talked about jesters, and one of the most famous jesters around those times had a bit where hed twirl a few times, bend over and fart lol. idk how he can fart on command like that lol. point is, farts were still funny back then
@PASTRAMIKick
@PASTRAMIKick 2 жыл бұрын
sometimes these "drolatic" style drawings were also meant to be literal representations of idioms and other expression of those languages in that point in time, so in a lot of cases the joke completely goes over our heads since we don't know the language and quite possibly the expressions have been lost to time.
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why some people have easier time understanding some art than others.
@PASTRAMIKick
@PASTRAMIKick 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUnkow yeah another style of paintings that weren't medieval but from the renaissance would be "Triumph of Death" by Pieter Bruegel, which has many of these literal representations of idioms.
@angelicavargas2314
@angelicavargas2314 2 жыл бұрын
Huhhhh
@angelicavargas2314
@angelicavargas2314 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@flaviusbangarang
@flaviusbangarang 2 жыл бұрын
Art ryhmes with fart Don't let that one go over your head
@arthurwindbot8339
@arthurwindbot8339 2 жыл бұрын
These demon doodles could serve to make one hell of a tattoo.
@jorgealfaro7083
@jorgealfaro7083 2 жыл бұрын
I think this with almost every vid
@alexaang9814
@alexaang9814 2 жыл бұрын
Bdum tssst
@McAaron2
@McAaron2 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have one. I have that weird little guy in the hood and the dress on the first page. Got it about 3 years ago.
@cartonflesh9961
@cartonflesh9961 2 жыл бұрын
i might get one in the near future
@tiriltheblack492
@tiriltheblack492 2 жыл бұрын
Yea thinking about the same, and maybe i got my next one 'cause of this 😅
@---ek5pw
@---ek5pw Жыл бұрын
Love this. Some bloke was probably wondering where he left his sketchbook and suddenly everyone's blown away by this mysterious book of deep policial humor 😂
@Echemusic
@Echemusic 4 ай бұрын
literally. as an artist i lit always wonder around with a sketchbook and have random doodles, so crazy to see how much someone can read into it. like i don't understand why they are being describes as demons? they just look like jokes and rad doodles
@Echemusic
@Echemusic 3 ай бұрын
@@user-db4gr7ne8l well perhaps your right, these are very cool and interesting drawings. I guess I just have quite dope sketchbooks :)
@Echemusic
@Echemusic 3 ай бұрын
@@user-db4gr7ne8l hmmmm maybe your right, these drawings are super cool and detailed. I guess I just put a lot of meaning into my own sketchbooks and I personally didn't feel like calling them deamons was the right thing to do
@richardbarbaros5868
@richardbarbaros5868 Жыл бұрын
My two best friends and I did the same thing back in elementary school. Had a whole series of "funny face magazines," that were just pages of absurd portraits and figures. Cool to see that folks don't really change that much over the centuries.
@alexanderhdmi7704
@alexanderhdmi7704 7 ай бұрын
Are "funny face magazines" real things? Or were they just magazines that you thought had funny looking people in them? I'm very interested by your comment. Do you still have the 'magazines' or can they be Googled perchance? (:
@richardbarbaros5868
@richardbarbaros5868 7 ай бұрын
@@alexanderhdmi7704 "Magazine" is a bit of a stretched term here haha, they were maybe eight "pages" comprised of silly doodles my friends and I made of imagined characters
@alexanderhdmi7704
@alexanderhdmi7704 7 ай бұрын
@@richardbarbaros5868 Ohhh well that's even better. I loved doodling faces when I was younger too, and would often look to magazines and books for inspiration. Curiosity quenched. 👍
@jackthefrog80085
@jackthefrog80085 2 жыл бұрын
A medieval peasant looks at this book: Hoho heavens, this is very funny
@harrylafferty8579
@harrylafferty8579 2 жыл бұрын
lmaooo
@bennycostello2472
@bennycostello2472 2 жыл бұрын
Ruhly captures Umpuhrieal Feudalism init?
@nonamesinenomine
@nonamesinenomine 2 жыл бұрын
Hoho Ben? ..no.
@Uultraaaviolettt
@Uultraaaviolettt 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my reaction too
@bennyheadofthechairmen8808
@bennyheadofthechairmen8808 2 жыл бұрын
Memes
@Nekolaws
@Nekolaws 2 жыл бұрын
All these doodles are so fantastical and curious, I would love to see a animation in this style
@dameriznolastname7009
@dameriznolastname7009 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the doodles remind me of Over the Garden Wall because of the etching, if you haven't heard of it you should check it out :)
@Nekolaws
@Nekolaws 2 жыл бұрын
@@dameriznolastname7009 oooh, cool. Thank you!
@dameriznolastname7009
@dameriznolastname7009 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nekolaws ur welcome ^^
@Clyman974
@Clyman974 2 жыл бұрын
Felix Colgrave has a very unique style reminding me of this as well
@wren_bean
@wren_bean 2 жыл бұрын
@@dameriznolastname7009 was going to suggest this, it's one of my favorite shows
@jessicasmith6056
@jessicasmith6056 2 жыл бұрын
8:11: I totally get this one. She is sitting in a beer keg, holding a goblet in one hand and a wine jug in the other. But the beer keg is leaking. That means that no matter how much booze she drinks, she will never get drunk enough.
@Ac3Mustang
@Ac3Mustang Жыл бұрын
Idk man.....you can get pretty drunk off wine
@jessevos3986
@jessevos3986 Жыл бұрын
@@Ac3Mustang not drunk enough for what this woman wants At least, that's OP's implication, I believe
@tangyferbreze
@tangyferbreze Жыл бұрын
i wonder what the little people drinking the leaks signify
@farialmab4723
@farialmab4723 Жыл бұрын
Trickle Down Economics 😁
@jayall00
@jayall00 Жыл бұрын
Babylon the great
@c.cooper6000
@c.cooper6000 Жыл бұрын
I think it's important to remember how difficult it would be to publish a book in this period. Artists also rarely worked alone, they had Patrons that employed them, so that would be a large factor of the 'whys ' behind them.
@Trucmuch
@Trucmuch Ай бұрын
I don't know. The fact that Francois Desprez was a close collaborator (almost co-owner) of the publisher of this book may have helped...
@robbylava
@robbylava 2 жыл бұрын
"Bizarre and fantastical creatures" -- looks like when you go to a distant family reunion and within minutes are questioning how you could possibly be related to these people
@kateapple1
@kateapple1 2 жыл бұрын
You win the comment of the day 👏
@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947
@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947 2 жыл бұрын
You have bad relationships with your family so funny and related to the video 😂
@St.Linguini_of_Pesto
@St.Linguini_of_Pesto 2 жыл бұрын
@RobbyLAVA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@zasproductions9258
@zasproductions9258 2 жыл бұрын
R/rareinsults
@L0rdOfThePies
@L0rdOfThePies 2 жыл бұрын
OH FR
@RetroBaseball
@RetroBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that’s certainly not a title I thought I would see this morning…
@fc2rs
@fc2rs 2 жыл бұрын
I̴͓͂ ̸͍̌d̷̡̿ḯ̴͇d̷̠̍ 👹
@analbreacher7198
@analbreacher7198 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@Ujuani68
@Ujuani68 2 жыл бұрын
Neither here... 🤣
@mrPauljacob
@mrPauljacob Жыл бұрын
I'm so amazed by old art... It seems impossible that humans could paint such masterpieces so perfectly
@andre-jt8yw
@andre-jt8yw Жыл бұрын
Imagine how hard the painter of the ugly duchess laughed when he finished it, or the reaction of the first person he showed it something like "did you finish painting? Can I see? Oh....." Before bursting out into laughter
@VoltasP
@VoltasP 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell did I get this far in life, a medieval enthusiast with an Art History background, and have never heard of this! Holy shit thank you!
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 2 жыл бұрын
ikr!
@davepowell7168
@davepowell7168 2 жыл бұрын
Go to a Piranesi prison
@ROTALOT
@ROTALOT 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if William Steig saw these before his The Lonely Ones came out.
@yamum6498
@yamum6498 2 жыл бұрын
Because youve only been fed what instantiated your pallete, by the way this video is garbage. You should of kniwn that when the first sceptical leap was bound.
@whitneybaxter3299
@whitneybaxter3299 Жыл бұрын
It was the “catholic coverup.” They really don’t like their image being smeared and hold LONG time grudges. Think about it, it took them 500 years to forgive Joan of arc when in actuality they owed her a apology..😳😂
@signeermegasejxD
@signeermegasejxD 2 жыл бұрын
I think the image at 8:08 might have been a reference to the women who brewed ale. This book is from, if I recall correctly, the same time as when the witch-hunts started, and the image of an elderly deformed woman over a big vat/barrel was a possibly a very loaded one.
@AtPeace541
@AtPeace541 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was the doodle convening the rich and the poor… the creature being inside the barrel being big and ugly because of its greediness and the poor getting its scraps.
@muldur5955
@muldur5955 2 жыл бұрын
@@AtPeace541 that was my thought as well. the noblewoman drinking from two goblets and the peasants get the used bathwater
@aquashkhar7351
@aquashkhar7351 2 жыл бұрын
Ok your guesses are much better than mine, I thought it was a warning for women not to drink alcohol during pregnancy or while breastfeeding.
@signeermegasejxD
@signeermegasejxD 2 жыл бұрын
@@aquashkhar7351 Though I think your theory is much funnier, I'm not entirely sure the effects of drinking while pregnant/breastfeeding was known to people back then lol
@jaegrant6441
@jaegrant6441 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the hands are holding different objects and hand gestures. Plus the plant types. Someone who knows tarot symbolism would have some clues
@WindiChilliwack
@WindiChilliwack Жыл бұрын
Man these demon doodles seriously aged well, it feels no different than our current time.
@j-star1
@j-star1 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed with this one! Make more on medieval obscure art please.
@floopismcfloorpus4396
@floopismcfloorpus4396 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’d be kinda neat to see someone try to make 3d models of theses weird little creatures…
@thenameless3271
@thenameless3271 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be amazing
@shoeling
@shoeling 2 жыл бұрын
well i suddenly want to try that
@Horus-Lupercal
@Horus-Lupercal 2 жыл бұрын
@@shoeling DO IIIIIIIT
@thomilo44
@thomilo44 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna make realistic Photoshop compositions of these
@excusablegold
@excusablegold 2 жыл бұрын
The Zeno Clash games lift a lot of their character designs from medieval art like this and the works of Bosch. There are several Bosch monsters and creatures in this book that are straight-up copied as NPCs. That demon in the dress with the hooked nose and the sunken eyes is a background character I remember seeing.
@oceansRising
@oceansRising 2 жыл бұрын
The very definition of "you had to be there"
@punkrock1989
@punkrock1989 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this and haven’t a clue why this is the only video I’ve ever seen on it. I love how someone’s personal drawings are kept and now have a fame of their own. Goes to show that every artist should stick to their craft as who knows how folks will eventually respond to it. Thanks for sharing.
@christopherlong5928
@christopherlong5928 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you would have to be from that era to really understand most of the hidden meanings of the doodles. Think of how slang terms or even clothing fashion changes so rapidly. I'm sure there are things that we will never understand in most everything from a time we are so far removed from. But that's the fun and mystery of it all!! Cool video my friend! I never knew of this book, now I'm glad I do.
@quiteindeed6809
@quiteindeed6809 2 жыл бұрын
The character progression in this manga is insane.
@buck-pucker
@buck-pucker 2 жыл бұрын
I've recently been playing Elden Ring, and I immediately connected the varied creatures in the game to the doodles, or drolleries in general. I thought Miyazaki must have been influenced by these drolleries, Bosch, or maybe even the Dreams in his creation of the Souls games. To my surprise, there's actually a recent opinion piece making this connection. It's called "The Boschian Horror of ‘Elden Ring’" - go check it out!
@Hoofbal
@Hoofbal 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this
@sara-hc3oq
@sara-hc3oq 2 жыл бұрын
Someone has the link? I cant find it
@buck-pucker
@buck-pucker 2 жыл бұрын
@@sara-hc3oq KZfaq is fickle with links. It's by Gareth Damian Martin on ArtReview
@sara-hc3oq
@sara-hc3oq 2 жыл бұрын
@@buck-pucker yess I found it thank you !
@doogallas
@doogallas 2 жыл бұрын
45 seconds into the video and I scroll down to see if anyone else connected Elden Ring
@RyanMcQuen
@RyanMcQuen Жыл бұрын
Channels like this are why KZfaq is an amazing resource.
@finalbreath15
@finalbreath15 Жыл бұрын
The doodles are pretty amazing honestly, i love the artstyle so much
@orangeman3220
@orangeman3220 2 жыл бұрын
I really love these sort of esoteric topics that would otherwise just end up as a footnote in any other video. Thanks for bringing these types of topics into light!
@davidcastellanos2492
@davidcastellanos2492 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@laykantheealien5722
@laykantheealien5722 Жыл бұрын
Ecsmkmmm
@laykantheealien5722
@laykantheealien5722 Жыл бұрын
H hi bbn.. ... I
@davidcastellanos2492
@davidcastellanos2492 Жыл бұрын
@@laykantheealien5722 hi
@Lordx718
@Lordx718 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a Nightmare Pokedex. I'm partial towards Roach Legman.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
There was actually a medieval cover of the PC theme hehe
@BuriedFlame
@BuriedFlame 2 жыл бұрын
And one of the characters is *obviously* Strong Mad.
@gododoof
@gododoof 2 жыл бұрын
I smell a romhack
@tony_47
@tony_47 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great game. Nightmare creature/demons in a nightmare world. Breath of the wild type of exploration.
@NeonRhubarb
@NeonRhubarb 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a copy of Gargantuan and Pantagruel that I got for like $1 at a second hand store a while back, so I'm very surprised to see a connection to this unique book here.
@BigBangTheoryIsALie
@BigBangTheoryIsALie Жыл бұрын
Whats impressive here is it was drawn back in 15th century. The details amuses my eyes, feelings that it was drawn by a woman at her 18-20's, alone in their hut with loneliness, alone
@flipster7285
@flipster7285 2 жыл бұрын
"The outfit doesn't make the monk"......in Afrikaans we we a similar saying: "Die vere maak nie die voël nie" (Feathers does not make a bird). Always amazes me how close languages really are.
@maxis5427
@maxis5427 Жыл бұрын
The origin of this specific one is probably from a medieval latin proverb that says "Cucullus non facit monachum", "The hood doesn't make the monk" but it could also be from an XI century italian benedict monk/saint (Saint Anselm of aosta) that said: "Non tonsura facit monachum… sed virtus animi" (pls don't make me translate it) but to be honest, romans (Barba non facit philosophum, "The beard doesn't make the filosofer") , greeks and even more ancient civs all had a similar proverb. It's a worldwide spread proverb.
@natsusatsujinki8342
@natsusatsujinki8342 Жыл бұрын
But feathers are al major description of birds...
@devilinthedarkness4830
@devilinthedarkness4830 Жыл бұрын
@@natsusatsujinki8342 thanks, we'd be lost without you
@bendover9813
@bendover9813 Жыл бұрын
It’s really how close PEOPLE are lmao. Even with languages that are nothing alike, we still come up with similar phrases, because we have the same experiences.
@darkstarr984
@darkstarr984 Жыл бұрын
People always want to communicate similar ideas, what amazes me is the sheer variety of ways we’ve made to say the same things.
@habie147
@habie147 2 жыл бұрын
“The Demon Doodles” will be the name of my first metal album.
@bionictryhard2272
@bionictryhard2272 2 жыл бұрын
Hello habie147
@GoodBoi1503
@GoodBoi1503 Жыл бұрын
Look up rudimentary peni, punk band who had a member with scizoaffective disorder that drew all their album covers. Interesting images
@AI-ch3if
@AI-ch3if Жыл бұрын
@@GoodBoi1503 Doesn't surprise me. This is a pretty good video that may help you understand why I'm not surprised: "#1 How does mental illness happen? Sin and Demonic Attack" on the channel Jesus Heals Mental Illness.
@safekicker
@safekicker Жыл бұрын
I watched your video on Hieronymous Bosch, and then this one; and now I'm subscribed. Thanks for creating and curating such a fun channel - keep up the great work 👏
@elijahtronti8574
@elijahtronti8574 Жыл бұрын
SO incredibly interesting. Just flipped through the whole book through the link. Thank you for bringing this to my attention
@sumosumo8589
@sumosumo8589 2 жыл бұрын
This video inspired me to draw again. The cross hatching is amazing.
@StrawHatsAreFashionable
@StrawHatsAreFashionable Жыл бұрын
Same here, I even got myself a small copy of the book so I could reference it better!
@fromeveryting29
@fromeveryting29 2 жыл бұрын
I remember drawing a "monster book" as a child. I drew "mutants" on each page.
@leafy4142
@leafy4142 2 жыл бұрын
Let me guess. They sent you to the school counselor?
@fromeveryting29
@fromeveryting29 2 жыл бұрын
@@leafy4142 no? My friends drew similar stuff
@chimpz_ahoy1502
@chimpz_ahoy1502 2 жыл бұрын
@@leafy4142 For me they just said "We'll be praying for you"
@SlapthePissouttayew
@SlapthePissouttayew 2 жыл бұрын
57 and still doing those..lol
@missbraindamage
@missbraindamage Жыл бұрын
@@leafy4142 they sent me to the counselor lol
@gregoryberrycone
@gregoryberrycone Жыл бұрын
what a coincidence, im reading gargantua and pantagruel right now. absolutely fantastic read, recommend to anyone whose a fan of classic literature like don quixote. its filled with ribald humor and a lot of visionary/borderline surrealist scenes. a lot of strange creatures too
@pastaenjoyer6958
@pastaenjoyer6958 Жыл бұрын
these drawings are so incredibly charming-- from the comical to the creepy
@industrialcomplex1434
@industrialcomplex1434 2 жыл бұрын
What’s also relevant is that the pantagruel books were written as indirect critics to their contemporary clerical society, and their author, François Rabelais, was one of many important figures of protestantism
@benc589
@benc589 Жыл бұрын
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
@oowens7476
@oowens7476 2 жыл бұрын
Thought this said “Demon Noodles” and was very certain of a good time. Hearing demon doodles was almost a let down 😂😂😂
@HeyLisaDare
@HeyLisaDare 2 жыл бұрын
Time to draw some demon noodles for people 500 years from now to find 😆
@hirorisu
@hirorisu 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeyLisaDare will love to see that haha!
@YuiFunami
@YuiFunami 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@blpendragon4035
@blpendragon4035 2 жыл бұрын
thats why i came here too lol
@BuriedFlame
@BuriedFlame 2 жыл бұрын
_"Demon Noodles: Keep away from open flame or spark."_
@mds_main
@mds_main Жыл бұрын
I love this kind of stuff, it reminds me of when me and my friends were little and we created a compendium of 1000 monsters created by us. I think some of these had satirical meanings or hidden jokes lost to time, but it is also as probable that they just wanted to draw something grotesque for the sake of it, as that is a common trait among many artists too. I mean, imagine if in a couple hundreds years people are gonna analyse the E meme saying it was a social commentary against corporations, influencers and political power because it depicted a fusion between Mark Zuckerberg, Markiplier and Lord Farquaad.
@wheedler
@wheedler Жыл бұрын
That's the fun of death of the author, you can give art whatever meaning you want.
@marcosfern777
@marcosfern777 10 ай бұрын
E
@WindiChilliwack
@WindiChilliwack Жыл бұрын
The creatures drawn seriously feels like something i would see in Little-Nightmares
@Derek-kj9mt
@Derek-kj9mt 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ODnD Monster Manual ー everyone forgets about the 1565 edition!
@DimaJeydar
@DimaJeydar 2 жыл бұрын
Curses! Someone already made this joke! Here’s your like.
@geekdivaherself
@geekdivaherself 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimaJeydar I know how you feel!
@cinocefalo284
@cinocefalo284 2 жыл бұрын
In 500 years more , the people who find a monster manual would guess the same things as this videos author made ! Lol
@RamonaFlowerz
@RamonaFlowerz 2 жыл бұрын
These creatures remind me of the ones from Beserk.
@BuriedFlame
@BuriedFlame 2 жыл бұрын
_"Ye rolle fyor yon initiative..."_
@frogtoad4375
@frogtoad4375 2 жыл бұрын
The cardinal has a cardinal beak. That's top tier humor.
@flux1940
@flux1940 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful tiny insight into the past and how creativity was expressed. Not so different to nowadays one might conclude. Thanks a lot !
@Angayasse
@Angayasse Жыл бұрын
This is dope!!! Thank you so much for calling my attention to this, instantly subscribed!
@felixcourbois6624
@felixcourbois6624 2 жыл бұрын
"L'habit ne fait pas le moine" (The outfit doesn't make the monk) means the same as "Do not judge a book by its cover"
@L0rdOfThePies
@L0rdOfThePies 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the reverse of the message of "do not judge a book by its cover" because ive never seen anyone say don't judge a book by its cover for negative means, whereas "the outfit doesnt make the monk" is express telling you that fancy clothes and titles dont make someone any more honourable in the eyes of god
@vennadvenntures2217
@vennadvenntures2217 Жыл бұрын
No shit Sherlock
@sps6374
@sps6374 Жыл бұрын
@@L0rdOfThePies well not really, monks don’t wear fancy clothes at all, monacal orders often make their members take a vow of poverty, they abandon all their personal property and they don’t wear opulent white or coloured garbs like other members of the clergy (like abbots, bishops, cardinals and the like), but generally plain coarse black, brown, white or grey robes with open sandals, a wooden rosary at the belt, and a shaved head.
@sps6374
@sps6374 Жыл бұрын
@@L0rdOfThePies the phrase is also non religious, it was first used in French in this form in the 13th century in Gargantua, and meant there « do not judge a book by its cover » as OP said. About its older origins, from what I read in French there are 2 sources that may well both play a part: 1. it could be the translation of the Latin formula "barba non facit philosophum" - attributed to Plutarch, this expression means "the beard does not make the philosopher"; 2. François Grimaldi, ancestor of the current reigning family of Monaco, seized the principality in 1297 thanks to a ruse, having disguised himself and his knights as Franciscan monks and sought asylum. They actually took advantage of the night to repeat the Trojan horse trick. In both cases, the explanation is secular - the Church or devout Christians would probably not suggest that there are sinners amongst monks… certainly not the Catholic or Orthodox churches, and Protestants were not established yet at the time.
@L0rdOfThePies
@L0rdOfThePies Жыл бұрын
@@sps6374 oh cool so how about "your outfits don't dictate your mindset and dedication"?
@Cheezy_Cheesburber
@Cheezy_Cheesburber 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this "Strange Christian Art" series. Its always so interesting :)
@billh673
@billh673 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw some of these doodles I thought they were definitely aimed at the church and politicians of the day. I've always been more attracted to the art of this period! Good video!
@Thywarden
@Thywarden Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel and I love it a lot. I found a new channel to watch on my relaxation time.
@SilverDawnArrow
@SilverDawnArrow 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this book before but I rather like it. The illustrations look like they'd work well on something like playing cards
@Sierra99
@Sierra99 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty random, but I personally find the backpack figure interesting, in that I’ve come across the strange idea, from people online, that backpacks weren’t invented or used until recently, several times. That there were only satchels and back-mounted wooden frames with bags hung from or equipment tied to them, when I’m pretty sure this an example of a simple backpack, a bag with straps to put both your arms through, which would be obvious to any human trying to carry more than they can hold
@Witchofthewoods.
@Witchofthewoods. Жыл бұрын
My God these are fascinating 🎨 and I do believe I've found ANOTHER favorite channel. Thank you!!!! ☠️
@MalO.ver1.0.x
@MalO.ver1.0.x Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. It's weird and whimsical and creative,.... Yet another book I need in my collection.
@jenkinsjrjenkins
@jenkinsjrjenkins 2 жыл бұрын
These creatures remind me of Japanese Yokai, specifically Tsukumogami, inanimate objects that gain sentience due to neglect (like the famously popular umbrella tsukumogami, kakaobake!)
@dianalindeman1644
@dianalindeman1644 2 жыл бұрын
Jenkins Thanks for the explanation of the Japanese object demons. I've seen some drawings of some of them (e.g. the demon lamps), but I didn't know their origin.
@jenkinsjrjenkins
@jenkinsjrjenkins 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianalindeman1644 Yeah! Its very much based in the Japanese idea that everything has usefulness. If the usefulness of an object isn't being utilized, it'll turn on humans and utilize themselves!
@ShadowLady1
@ShadowLady1 2 жыл бұрын
wouldnt it be the other way around
@viscountrainbows6452
@viscountrainbows6452 Жыл бұрын
The Great Yokai War is a great Takashi Miike movie. And probably his only PG-13 one by my reckoning.
@NothingYouHaventReadBefore
@NothingYouHaventReadBefore Жыл бұрын
@@jenkinsjrjenkins That's a weirdly wholesome sentiment!
@gpliskin
@gpliskin 2 жыл бұрын
Hochelaga, you are always bringing new and unknown things for us to see! Thank you!
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 5 ай бұрын
I am a Montréalais born and raised so your channel name obviously caught my attention. I'm seriously glad I stopped by, this video was amazing. Cheers!
@seeker2seeker
@seeker2seeker Жыл бұрын
That’s some fantastic editing… well done indeed!
@warmporridge882
@warmporridge882 2 жыл бұрын
I love them! Obviously, the demon who seems to have forgotten something is wondering if it left the oven on as it is wearing an oven mitten ^_^
@almightytallestred
@almightytallestred 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing little book. Love the drawings. Something I noticed, the face with the hook-like nose (4:20) could also be that of an owl. Which would fit nicely with the artist being inspired by Hieronymus Bosch, who also put owls in many of his works.
@fellow8085
@fellow8085 2 жыл бұрын
Looks to me more like the common mask of Pulcinella, the jester-costumed character from some italian operas.
@joshuaisham3929
@joshuaisham3929 Жыл бұрын
I wonder WHO it could be 😊😂
@sliceoflife4220
@sliceoflife4220 Жыл бұрын
Or the people you can never speak ill will of?
@sliceoflife4220
@sliceoflife4220 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaisham3929 109 countries had enough over time these are memes lol
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
3:21 Historian here, I'm pretty certain this is joking about the fact that at the time, academia was all about knowing the names and "nature" of things, especially in botanics. For instance, there is a letter from a father to his son who wishes that he study well so he can know the name of any plant he points him at during walks. So this demon going all gaga for some ordinary herb on the ground is surely part of the joke, so proud to name out the plant and talking nerd anecdotes about it, so full of his knowledge!
@pattidean4109
@pattidean4109 2 жыл бұрын
I just went on Amazon and ordered the coloring book version. Thanks for this video!
@mattl6470
@mattl6470 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn’t address that I find interesting is how almost all of the illustrations have some form of an exaggerated phallus. It seems to be a hidden but core idea in the social commentary of whatever he’s getting at.
@vismay5495
@vismay5495 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@jakirachan
@jakirachan 2 жыл бұрын
When your about to sleep but hochelaga posted a interesting video
@MsAuriauri
@MsAuriauri 2 жыл бұрын
this was fascinating, thank you !
@mollielacey7428
@mollielacey7428 2 жыл бұрын
im going to have to purchase this book once I get back to work! this looks like an amazing collection of work.
@kostiheinonen8414
@kostiheinonen8414 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is filled with history content much like this, and so as a viewer, my choice of what to watch usually comes down to whether i like the narrator's voice or not. You have a great voice. Subbed.
@sternnormal4264
@sternnormal4264 2 жыл бұрын
5:56 has massive meme potential
@kaiko70
@kaiko70 Жыл бұрын
I would like to go back in time, find the artist, shake his hand and tell him "we are talking about your art 500 years from now"
@gravel9270
@gravel9270 2 жыл бұрын
"The Drolatic Dreams of Pantagruel" 1:20 It's not the most catchy of title..... Fantasy genre fans be like: 🤩😍
@SpazzGotTHaK
@SpazzGotTHaK 2 жыл бұрын
"Demon doodles" is one way to get my attention
@KhanCrete
@KhanCrete 2 жыл бұрын
since you mentioned a proverbial interpretation that some of the illustrations might have, i can't help but wonder if some others were meant to personify proverbs as well, like the painting by peter bruegel, but the exact sayings are either obscure or lost to time
@chadtx
@chadtx 5 ай бұрын
Don't know why this was recommended to me, but I loved it
@yaniaraujo8460
@yaniaraujo8460 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this high holds such a magnificence.
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 2 жыл бұрын
your voice sounds like it could belong to an animated scholarly barn owl. Very soothing
@stevem.o.1185
@stevem.o.1185 2 жыл бұрын
I've always heard it pronounced "Pant-a-grool", but "Paentag-ru-ehl" does make more sense linguistically. I'm assuming it's based on a Hebrew name, since the suffix "-el" refers to God/ of God. E.g. Michael, Raphael, etc.
@avian12311
@avian12311 Жыл бұрын
It bothers me how it's pronounced in the video 😂
@devinmorse9112
@devinmorse9112 Жыл бұрын
The band Gentle Giant pronounced it the latter way so it'd rhyme with Hell... which sounds appropriate to me.
@yogarcia6066
@yogarcia6066 Жыл бұрын
In Rebelais' novel, he explains that Panta in Greek is worth the same as saying "everything", and gruel in the arabic language is "thirsty", wanting to infer that at the time of his birth the people were totally thirsty.
@moodby
@moodby Жыл бұрын
At 0:18 I've seen this guy on the right in Zenoclash, a bystander during the bridge fight.
@everettbostick5619
@everettbostick5619 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video to watch for reference and insight to doodle. Thanks!
@louib716
@louib716 2 жыл бұрын
Did these drawings ever have a place in the modern mainstream because I could SWEAR the character furthest left at 0:35 looks so similar to a drawing I did as a kid.
@underwaterspacetraveler17
@underwaterspacetraveler17 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was fantastic. Whenever I think of very old artwork, I think of that classic kind of portraiture of old high status figures of the times. I don't typically think of this type of very fantastical, fictional character design. So this conjures super awesome, curious contemplation. Soo cool. Also, I love this channel! Super happy to have found it!
@ANDYDLNY
@ANDYDLNY Жыл бұрын
Awesome, now awaiting an episode on the Demon Doodoos of 1565
@hunglo1068
@hunglo1068 Жыл бұрын
I initially read this as "Demon Noodles of 1565" thinking there was a major snake population explosion in the Renaissance era
@jfnuyen
@jfnuyen 2 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting set of drawings. The fellow who drew them, as you said, had one heck of an imagination. It's too bad we can't figure out the meaning behind them, if in fact there is a meaning. I guess we will never know for sure.
@TheKAYLEN101
@TheKAYLEN101 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, it seems like the artist could see the essence of someone’s soul & intentions. Therefore he showed people in their true form.
@PersephoneRising333
@PersephoneRising333 2 жыл бұрын
You get my vote! 🤓✅
@ElderShogun
@ElderShogun 2 жыл бұрын
I actually REALLY like these drawings. Looks like some really cool tattoos
@pannkale9259
@pannkale9259 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! It has been one of my favorites among your works, and finally I managed to get my hands on a brand new edition of this book, which tries to give an interpretation of these drawings using the comments of three authors from the 1800s, Esmangard (probably Honoré de Balzac), Eloi Johanneau, and Richard Lesclide, who first tried to give a name to these doodles by studying the books of Gargantua and Pantagruel and the history of the 16th century. The book I'm reading now was written thanks to the studies of these authors, and in my opinion it gives brilliant interpretations of all the drawings (if you know Italian you should read it too, it's called "Buffe chimere- il libro dei sogni di Pantagruel in cui sono contenute centoventi figure immaginate dal maestro François Rabelais" published by WoM Edizioni ;)
@becauseimbored777777
@becauseimbored777777 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also seen doodles referred to as “marginalia” and specifically associated with folk art. Your comment about these drawings as political cartoons is pretty accurate I think!
@tiberseptim8330
@tiberseptim8330 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see a deep dive about how Jesus is depicted in art, especially why a man born in the middle east seems so often depicted as white, but also who decided that Jesus had a beard? Or brown, long hair? Was his appearance ever described in canonical books? I just think it would be really interesting
@valleyresident
@valleyresident 2 жыл бұрын
the long hair is especially mysterious to me as i understand that was a bit of a no-no for men at the time. where and when and *who* did that one come from?
@fidii347
@fidii347 2 жыл бұрын
@Erika Wagner Christianity is not a religion for white people, it is a religion for everyone who wants to be a Christian. Christianity as a bloc has in history largely been carried by countries largely made up of white people, yes, but your comment is gross and inaccurate, seeing as there are long and storied histories of Middle Eastern and African Christianity, they just didn't speak English. The histories of every other major world religion have been focused in their birthplace, which is a large part of why their ethnicity matches up with their depictions.
@Wise_Monkey
@Wise_Monkey 2 жыл бұрын
He is depicted as white because the Romans, who were started accepting Christianity, made him look Roman. The long hair and beard was probably to make him look wise and godly like Jupiter or Zues. As far as I'm aware they're no descriptions of Jesus in the Bible except for his revived form which is literally glowing.
@DigitalLogos
@DigitalLogos 2 жыл бұрын
First off, He wasn't a "man from the middle east" He was the Christ, the Son of the living God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Get it right or keep His Holy Name out of your mouth. Second, His complexion would have been not unlike the Greeks of that time given that Judea was conquered by the generals of Alexander before the later Roman occupation, leading to some inter-breeding between the Semitic Judeans and Greeks. Third, the most accurate depiction of Jesus Christ is that of the Holy image on the Shroud of Turin, leading one to believe that He would have had olive skin and dark hair, and was not a northern European, but most definitely possessing qualities of southern Europeans and Asia Minor. The beard was a common fashion of the Jews, not some invention of Christiansted pagans as enemies of the Church love to embellish.
@Jack-nn6gn
@Jack-nn6gn 2 жыл бұрын
the jesus being white is just carried over from medieval art as it progressed with time. back then a lot of the people making art like that hadn't traveled very far from their homeland and therefore hadn't seen very many people who didn't look like them, so they didn't really have a reason to depict him as looking any different than them. and since christianity was the most prominent religion in europe and white people made up the majority of people in europe, you can see how that happened. the reasons for him being depicted that way in this day and age are different but i believe that's how that started. the long hair+beard thing in my opinion was probably a misinterpretation of the bible by people of the time. there were men in israel known as nazarites who had taken the nazarite vow, and part of that vow was never shaving their hair or beard. jesus grew up in the town of nazareth, and was known and called jesus of nazareth by people of the time, but he wasn't actually a nazarite, as he was born in bethlehem, and i don't think that the nazarite vow extended to everyone living in nazareth anyway
@kalidwapur
@kalidwapur Жыл бұрын
This has always been my favourite type of art. I absolutely love Pieter Brueghel and the crazy little monsters Hidden in his painting. Rabelais comes from my parents region and I always heard of Pantagruel and his crazy adventures but only recently have I read some of them. The stories are indeed a bit mad, sometimes cute, sometimes horribly dirty but they are an important part of french popular culture. I will definitely try to find a copy of this.
@Wruce_Bayne
@Wruce_Bayne 2 жыл бұрын
The people who did Over the Garden Wall should make a show about 1500s Europe and use these designs for characters
@Puckrocker
@Puckrocker 2 жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite drawings I’ve seen in a long time. Really interesting stuff!
@thevilifyingforce
@thevilifyingforce 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite channels. I'm so glad I stumbled over you a few months ago!
@DeadWhiteButterflies
@DeadWhiteButterflies Жыл бұрын
You should definitely do a video on the stories of Garganuta in general. I'm familiar with it, but would love to know more.
@brbosen
@brbosen Жыл бұрын
That was cool! I had no idea these drawings or this book existed, so thank you for the interesting education!
@Mote.
@Mote. 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at 1565
@neilevans1907
@neilevans1907 2 жыл бұрын
never stop making videos!!! love every video you’ve made
@The_Jackpurgis
@The_Jackpurgis Жыл бұрын
So, "The Ugly Duchess" is the 1500s version of "how you do fellow kids?"
@debtoralive4693
@debtoralive4693 Жыл бұрын
That series really reveals that the artist must have had quite the vivid and unusual imagination and the talent to bring it to life. I find it strange there is not one word of text though, explaining or at least introducing what the book was about and why they even bothered to print it.
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